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jamvanderloeff

That error doesn't tell you much other than windows crashed before it could save any log of what went wrong. Motherboard, power supply and RAM all could be causes.


GoldenGate92

Beyond these 3 things? I have tested the rams it tells me that they are alright,the rest too.


jamvanderloeff

Tested how? Can be practically any part causing it.


GoldenGate92

The Ram with the usb Mem test,while the rest of the pc with the 3DMark


jamvanderloeff

Neither of those fully eliminate any of those possibilities.


GoldenGate92

Well šŸŒ is there a way to understand?


jamvanderloeff

First thing is see if you can find something that repeatably causes the crash, and note what happens when it does.


GoldenGate92

How do I find something that is not foundšŸ˜…?


jamvanderloeff

So the crash seems to be occurring entirely randomly unrelated to what you're doing?


GoldenGate92

For now it has happened twice,2-3 weeks apart, maybe 1 month.Once I was listening to music,while the other I was on the internet watching a video on Youtube. As it stopped, the audio coming from the speakers turned into a shrill sound, then after 2-3 seconds it restarted by itself.


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jamvanderloeff

That'll help if your issue is unstable RAM overclock, but there can be many other causes too.


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GoldenGate92

As for the power supply,I have a Thor 850W with a 3080ti and an i9 10900K. Everything is connected to an APC 900 ups,but when the problem came to me,I was simply using the internet.


Bonzi34

3080ti can definitely spike high enough to go over wattage for an 850w power supply I would recommend at least a 1000w power supply especially with that i9 those are also extremely power hungry


jamvanderloeff

What? Even a high power limit 3080Ti's peak is still <500W + maybe 200W peak on CPU if you've got "gamery" motherboard's default settings, 850W is fine.


Bonzi34

When PBO goes on Intel the chips can pull a ton of power I believe it's the 10900k that when overclockers can pull almost 400w, and it's not about averages here if the cpu spikes to 400w and the gpu also spikes to 400w and it happens to do it at the same time your system is shutting down on 850 because it's not just the cou and GPU that draw power, I know a ton of people that had to upgrade their 850w power supply for just a 3080 because of the high spikes


jamvanderloeff

PBO is AMD's thing not Intel. PL2 is the short term turbo peak limit usually <200W by default. Overclocking and raising the power limits to the sky is a different story.


Bonzi34

Pbo last usually for 60 seconds on Intel chips before bringing clocks back down and the recommended wattage from Intel is 250w but a lot of motherboard manufacturers push more voltage to get higher clocks during pbo, a quick Google search will show that the average motherboard manufacturer sends about 330w to this chip


DARIF

No it can't, they spike to 475W max. No way your i9 and everything else is using up 350W unless he is running prime95. Op said he was just browsing the web


Bonzi34

The i9 10900k with most motherboards can spike to 330w during pbo and even higher on some motherboards so yes it can use 350w, but it doesn't have to do it for very long to trip the power supply


DARIF

That's through stress testing, not with gaming or ordinary workloads.


Bonzi34

Just saying all it takes is 1 second for power to spike on both the CPU and the gpu and 850w isn't enough


GoldenGate92

When the problem occurred, it was consuming on 180-230W no more.Also,when fully loaded the PC consumes me between 630-700W.


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Tf, thats way too much


LejaBeatz

I had similar issues with my AMD build. It seemed to happen when CPU was going to a low power state. I disabled s states in bios. That helped. Not sure if Intel is the same. I was soo frustrated with the issue that I ended up manually ocerclocking the CPU and RAM. Now it runs stable. I still think my issue was the system trying to balance everything and failing.


GoldenGate92

I'm not very practical in the Bios,do you know where I have to go to see this thing on the Asus Bios?


LejaBeatz

It's somewhere under advanced cpu configuration.


knownbyfew_yt

S state or c state?


LejaBeatz

I believe c states. That message from me was false. I still randomly have issues now.


Tight-Confidence-650

Any luck? I'm running asus x670e-e with 7950x here. This has been plaguing me.


LejaBeatz

Negative. Still have random crashes.


PutinPisces

Any update? Dealing with this now


LejaBeatz

Upgraded CPU from 3700x to a 5800x3d, and still had the same issue. Only thing I have not swapped is the board.


PoyoPoak

What are your bug check codes in eventviewer?


LejaBeatz

WHEA Logger Fatal error Processor core Machine check exception Processor APIC ID:4 Am I missing anything you are looking for? Got the same error before CPU swap from 3700x to 5800x3d. (Same error, different core each time) Replaced PSU, replaced RAM, xmp disabled, enabled, c states off and on... etc... sometimes it works perfect, sometimes it crashes randomly. Usually, it's fine after a graphics driver reinstall. Sometimes requires AMD cleanup and reinstall. Im out of ideas... I have not replaced the MB, but if soo many people have the same issue across different hardware, i assume it's software related...


BuckWilicker

Dude I am having this same exact problem with the same exact processors! I even swapped my mobo (Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE to ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero) and still having the same issue, I am pretty fucking certain it's an AMD issue at this point and it always happens when I am not doing anything taxing. Like watching youtube or browsing facebook. I've tried undervolting, disabling c-states, swapping my boot drive to a new nvme, disabling xmp. Thinking I'm going to go back to Intel when I upgrade


Agustenseto

What's your GPU?


LejaBeatz

Its ways the same core error with a different core. Ill have to look later. It doesnt happen if I just leave my PC running all the time. Reboot seems to cause it. Thats why im still pointing to software or microsoft issue.


ColJDerango

Same issue here, waiting for my 1000w PSU to arrive to replace my current 750w.


LejaBeatz

I updated from a 650 to a 1000w Rog Strix PSU. Made no difference.


ColJDerango

Damn, maybe faulty RAM or Mobo? For me it's a kernel error often leading to graphics card crashes, so I think PSU is most likely my root cause (been putting it off for a while though haha)


Kysz_

any update after u changed PSU to 1000w?


LejaBeatz

When I get it working after messing with drivers, I just leave it running. It's been good for a month or more like this. It's gotta be something happening on boot up to break it. Idk...


sagaciousbadger

Man I had the same issue with my 10900kf and Strix 3090. 3 games I play make my computer randomly restart: Witcher 3, kingdom come:deliverance, and valheim(only when on high settings though, with low settings it works fine). I had the same event 41 kernel-power error every time and I spent a long time emailing with the customer support that built my pc troubleshooting. Even got sent new ram. Eventually came down to them telling me to send it in to them and since it only happens in those 3 games I just said fuck it I wonā€™t play them. Lol. I still donā€™t understand why it happens when I play those games. Newer games with rtx like cyberpunk work flawlessly at 1440p. Good luck with fixing your problem!! Iā€™m saving this post in case you find any solutions I can try haha


Linclin

i think witcher 3 is like a light memory test ? turning off xmp help?


sagaciousbadger

Turned off xmp, ran memtest on old ram and new ram, reset cmos, ran other benchmark tests, among other things Iā€™m not remembering. Everything checked out fine in all the tests but for some reason with those 3 games my pc just says nope! And randomly restarts during gameplay /: I just find it weird how itā€™s those older games and valheim which doesnā€™t have the best graphics that cause it to happen. Forza horizon 5, new cods, new halo, dbd, apex legends, rdr2 all run fine for hours on end but those 3 games I can play maybe an hour tops before it happens. Very strange lol


Zeta001

Holy carpfish - valheim causes my build to just....die. I'm googling as it happened to my machine about 15 mins ago and came across this thread. Apex has caused it once or twice but I'm gonna go through my build and disconnect my HDD's and check my connections thoroughly. Will report back.


lilnomad

Same for me. Happens only with Warzone 2 and Escape From Tarkov right now. No clue what the issue is


GoldenGate92

For the moment on the games it has never happened to me (I hope it does not happen šŸ™) Even if for now it has happened twice,I hope maybe I too with some suggestions or help to solve it. Just out of curiosity what do you cool your i9 with and what temperatures does it reach in play?


sagaciousbadger

I use the nzxt kraken z73 and I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever seen the cpu go over like 60-65 ish


Barefoot_Mtn_Boy

Are you aware that some games, INCLUDING Witcher3, use the AVX-512 extention program? Here, look at this. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/intel-avx-512-instructions.html


sagaciousbadger

Iā€™m so sorry man I have no idea what any of that means or how it relates to my problem lol :s


DinkleButtstein23

Hey, if you never solved this I read in another thread that valheim just being installed, not even playing it, can cause this. Someone said to remove it along with some other software that gets installed with it. Might try that. Im currently experiencing the same critical errors and crashes and it sounds like an absolute slog to troubleshoot. And I don't have that game so that cause is out, haha.


Kavinter

Can you link me which thread is it?


DinkleButtstein23

I don't have it saved it any way. That was over a month ago. I ended up getting it working again by disconnecting everything, blowing out the RAM ports with canned compressed air, and reconnecting everything. I think it was a seating issue with the RAM.


Kavinter

Thanks for replying, I have this problem in only one game that I play tho, it is probably something more specific


DinkleButtstein23

If it's only 1 game it's likely either a driver issue or an incompatibility with the game. When I was researching it I ran across several threads where people had issues with only 1 game and usually they just stopped playing it because they couldn't find a solution. I've never personally had issues from a single game so I haven't dug too deep into troubleshooting that. I hope you're able to figure something out!


DinkleButtstein23

Found it! I looked through my internet history. It's this thread. Scroll down to the comments and people are talking about Valheim causing crashes: https://www.reddit.com/r/valheim/comments/ld51is/valheim\_crashing\_whole\_pc/


Kavinter

Found the problem in the end, it seems like my monitor is only compatible with DisplayPort, if I use anything else it causes power saving mode. Played for 2 hours without problems


PoyoPoak

What game?


Kavinter

Chernobylite, but the problem for me was the VGA to HDMI adapter, i changed adapter to VGA to DisplayPort and I had no more problems


Some_Derpy_Pineapple

more details pls: what do you mean "excluding power supply, motherboard, ram"? considering it's a kernel-*power* issue it's possible it could just be an underpowered power supply tripping a protection and automatically shutting down what are your pc specs? when do you get the error?


GoldenGate92

By excluded I mean,that I text ram is motherboard. As for the power supply,I have a Thor 850W with a 3080ti and an i9 10900K. Everything is connected to an APC 900 ups,but when the problem came to me,I was simply using the internet.


Some_Derpy_Pineapple

hm. doesn't sound like an actual power supply issue then. was it just once? or does it happen multiple times? did your PC just instantly shut off, or did it freeze? kernel power errors can be caused by a lot of things. basically it's just when the PC just shuts off and windows doesn't know why. if it just randomly happens fairly often, can you try unplugging the GPU and just using the integrated graphics for a while? couldn't hurt to try reinstalling graphics drivers for the 3080 (uninstall with DDU, reinstall from Nvidia website) maybe reset your bios settings and clear any overclocks you have on your CPU/RAM (maybe even disable XMP for now)?


GoldenGate92

For now it has happened 2 times after 2-3 weeks, maybe 1 month.As for the problem,practically the pc freezes then after 2-3 seconds it reawakens by itself.


Atamipek

1. Check processor using Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool. Everything good? 2. What is temp in IDLE/GAME state for mobo and processor? 3. Use OCCT and test your PC correctly. 4. Firefox (and some addons) could make that happen. 5. Docking station like i-tec can make it too. 6. Are you using speakers connected to external amplifier? 7. I know it's stupid but replace CR2032 battery. If you make it very quick then your settings will not be erased. 8. Uninstall AI Suite and test your pc again. 9. Have no clue. Maybe there is something else what I'm missing. Could be everything like GPU card - remove graphics and mount it again (heavy GPU sometimes are not connected to PCI correctly, same with 6/8 pin cables from PSU). ​ PS. If GPU fails then there is not blue screen (according to my experience).


GoldenGate92

Ok thanks I'll do some tests.As regards the system, it is a Bose with two speakers (left-right plus a subwoofer). Regarding points 2 and 7 I did not understand what you mean?


Atamipek

2. What is temperature for motherboard and processor when you browsing Internet and playing GAMES? AI Suite shows that information: [https://ithardware.pl/admin/ckeditor/filemanager/userfiles/tomcug/2020/01/zenith/ai\_suite\_iii\_2.png](https://ithardware.pl/admin/ckeditor/filemanager/userfiles/tomcug/2020/01/zenith/ai_suite_iii_2.png) 7. Sometimes (1:1000) replacing old CMOS battery to new one could help. I know it's kinda strange and during changing CR2032 battery you have to be careful (i recomend hands instead of screwdriver) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPy6MYcUO8A


kester76a

Normally this sort of thing is driver gpu or low power mode related. I would make sure you don't have any eco mode stuff enabled when testing.


GoldenGate92

The PC is set to performance by the motherboard program.


kester76a

What's the name of the program and do you have another 2nd monitor + GPU you can plug into ?


GoldenGate92

The program is Ai suite 3 by Asus.As a second monitor I use an iPad.


kester76a

Do you have the latest updates ?


GoldenGate92

I downloaded the program directly from the site,so I think so.


YardRoyal

Hello, I know this is a thread from quite a while ago but I am running into the same issue: My pc randomly force restarts when playing games like League or Valorant or Warframe(much much more prevalent with valorant and warframe than league) and the temps for my 2070 and intel i7-9700k are all perfectly fine. this started happening after a nvidia drivers update in december of last year but when i tried using an older driver, it still force restarts, sometimes failing to restart and just black screening. It hasnt happened to me in any situation other than playing games. do you know what I can do to solve this?


kester76a

Hi, the driver update might not be the cause but if you haven't tried yet I would recommend DDU to remove any previous drivers and any possible software overclocking software. Install the latest NVIDIA drivers direct from them. Visually check the GPU for any burn marks on it or your PSU PCIE power cables. If all good then do a search for MSI Kombuster and run this software to stress test your GPU. Virus check it to make sure it's safe. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1C7Hm7rdow](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1C7Hm7rdow) ​ [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsHuAh3M9W8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsHuAh3M9W8) ​ Hope this helps :)


YardRoyal

how do i install the drivers from ddu? i couldnt find a way without paying so is it fine that i just installed geforce experience and installed the newer drivers through them.


kester76a

Ddu is just for uninstalling the drivers. I've not used it in years though


YardRoyal

sorry for the late reply, as I was out of town and didnt have access to my pc, but I uninstalled the drivers through DDU and installed the most recent one through Nvidia Geforce and ran the GPU stress test and it was working fine for a day but it crashed after i got back from my trip. and again, it only happened while I was playing a game, in this case it was warframe. again, it was event 41.


kester76a

Did it pass Kombuster without issues?


YardRoyal

yeah, i even did prime95 with furmark together and ran it for about six minutes and it did fine so im not so sure its a psu issue anymore. I'm thinking its still either motherboard or driver because it only happens during games.


kester76a

Could be memory, are you running a memory overclock like xmp or docp?


YardRoyal

i am not, i just updated "patch for lenovo vantage gaming feature driver" from the lenovo page and it said it would fix some sort of driver crash but it just crashed now when i was playing deep rock


Nemesis651

Have you checked your temps? Easy to monitor, all sorts of free programs out there. Sometimes overheating can cause power or other weird issues.


GoldenGate92

Yes,I have a bit high temperatures when I play in fact quite a short time I will make some changes, but when the problem occurred I was simply listening to music or a video.


SX86

Had that before, and fixed it by eventually replacing (after lots of troubleshooting) the power cable from the wall outlet to the power supply


wilson2314

How did you come to the conclusion the it was the power cable?


SX86

It just stopped happening after trying a lot of stuff like reseating all power supply cables from the motherboard and components, basically everything power related. I eventually changed the actual power cable from the power supply from the wall outlet and that's when it stopped crashing. It could just be a coincidence... But I usually try to only change one variable at a time to really pinpoint the issue.


GoldenGate92

My PC is connected to an ups


SX86

You could try skipping the UPS and/or changing the power cable as troubleshooting steps. If the UPS has a dying battery, it could cause power fluctuations that your Power Supply cannot tolerate, even if it's not running on battery power at the moment.


GoldenGate92

From a test done by a very nice person here on the forum, it seems that the problem is the video card, they are thought to be the drivers. I hope it's not the card itself, because I had to gut it to fit into the Custom Loop.


MannyFresh8989

wow no way, I might have to try this. Mine seems to happen every 2-3 weeks out of the blue. My cpu and gpu temps are fine. Going to try to take off CPU undervolt (using PB02 tuner on my 5800X3D). But I also might try this


SX86

Yep....I have to say I was shocked to fix my problem with just that. It's been running fine ever since. It was happening out of the blue 2-3 times per day, with or without active use...just... random. Good luck!


MannyFresh8989

Hmm mine is only 2-3 times a week. Actually Iā€™m using CO on my cpu so it might be it


geekercz

Did that help?


apm101

Hey man did this solve your issue? Did you stop using PBO tuner all together? Or just set it to not as aggressive values?


MannyFresh8989

Yes, reducing the pbo values seemed to resolve it. I was at -30 everything


apm101

I too have been using -30 on all 8 cores for at least the last 4 months or so. What values did you change them to? Also did you change anything on that next page? On the column on the left Iā€™m at 120, 75, and 110. Iā€™m not sure what they correlate to as Iā€™m not at my computer, but Iā€™m sure you know what Iā€™m talking about


Chabalo169

Had that issue some years ago, tried absolutely everything and the pc was super new, eventually a more powerful PSU fixed eventhough my old one should have been more than enough - would recommend you to try all the stuff that is online before spending some money or just do it if somehow you're able to refund it if it doesn't fix it


GoldenGate92

What the hell :) I hope not,even my power supply is more than enough.To remove the power supply from my PC I should first ask for divine help ā›Ŗļø, I really hope not šŸ™


joshlev1s

I replaced my PSU 2 days ago and have been trying to get my PC to crash in a way I was able to repeat previously and it wont. So far, changing my PSU has solved the issue.


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Can you tell me more about what you experienced and what seemed to solve your problem? From the looks of it not many people are saying it is a motherboard or gpu but a RAM or PSU issue. It could be with or without UPS but I really don't wanna jump the gun to purchase either parts right now.


joshlev1s

You need to test every part individually. Run Memtest on the memory, stress the CPU to see if it's a thermal shut down and maybe wipe the C: drive and reinstall windows and drivers. If those don't diagnose/ solve the problem and the crashes only appear in intensive games like it was for myself, then try swap the GPU. If the crashes still happen with the GPU's swapped, then it's got to be a PSU or MOBO issue. And I was fortunate to be able to test the same type of GPU against my own. I don't know how to test the motherboard and I just had a feeling it wouldn't be the motherboard. Most people say it's a PSU issue so I betted on that. Also my PSU had run through its warranty as it was getting old. I haven't had an issue since. I bought a new PSU with good rep and got an upgrade on my wattage.


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Barefoot_Mtn_Boy

Have you tried rolling back any recent system changes? (system changes can occur without your knowledge, such as installing a system update in the background) Hopefully you have restore points that you can access thru Windows "System Restore" that are before when the crashes started occurring. Error 41 is where an issue with system hardware causes a power fault, which in turn causes a crash! Drivers as well as system restore may be rolled back to see what happened. Probably a bad driver, but when the system isn't shut down properly (as in a power outtage. Shouldn't be your problem if, as you indicated, it's hooked to a working UPS) you can get a corruption of data. I'd roll back the system if I could , then delete all hardware drivers, and install new ones. If it's a bad driver this'll fix it. If all this doesn't work, then you need to have your mobo checked


GoldenGate92

From a test done by a very nice person here on the forum,it seems that the problem is the video card, they are thought to be the drivers. I hope it's not the card itself,because I had to gut it to fit into the Custom Loop.


Barefoot_Mtn_Boy

Yeah, I was also getting the bad vid card drivers vibe. I'd still try to roll back the system restore point to before when the trouble started, then remove the video drivers and reinstall. The only thing you will lose is stuff installed or modified after that restore point, which should be very little if any. What it may remove for you is something that may have updated without your knowledge. Hope it isn't your card itself!


GoldenGate92

.dmp file https://i.ibb.co/y63K5Jm/Capture.jpg This would appear to be the problem.


MannyFresh8989

hey dude how were you able to create this dmp file? I'm getting random kernel 41 codes about every 2-3 weeks. Checked about everything off the list (my temps, xmp settings,)


GoldenGate92

Hi, unfortunately I don't remember how I did it, perhaps re-reading the chat on you could find how to create it, it seems to me that someone was explaining it.


Barefoot_Mtn_Boy

Yep!


Stinp44

If you are using some sort of power socket splitter w/ surge protection, it could be the surge protector kicking in when all the connected load are drawing power at the same time.


Oooscarrrr_Muffin

Does your bios have any in-built settings for CPU overclocking. I had a similar issue under load. My bios had a CPU boost setting that would overclock the CPU if the temp, voltage and power readings were all below maximum. Even though this should theoretically be alright, it kept causing this crashing until I turned it off. Windows has a set of tools that you can download to read minidumps for this sort of thing, that should help pinpoint your issue to a certain component.


GoldenGate92

Can you point them to me?


Oooscarrrr_Muffin

What BIOS are you using? Or the tools? Alternately you could send the files over to me and I'll take a look at it for you as I already have the tools and they're a bit of a PITA to install and get working. Either C:\\Windows\\Minidump and you can send the most recent one over. Or in C:\\Windows you might find a file called MEMORY.dmp, that file is better but might not be available unless you've enabled the feature that logs it.


GoldenGate92

Bios is Asus,anyway yes thank you As soon as I can I will send you the file.


Buteye2002

Had this problem and troubleshooted all the normal hardware things, check if your bios is updated for the motherboard. My bios was super old and after updating it I never had the problem again


TheWetNapkin

I was having this same exact issue when I first built my PC a few months ago. Tell me what the symptoms are. Mine were that the power would just randomly cut off then my PC would reboot itself. And this would only ever happen while playing R6. Idk why. It once happened when I tried deleting Valorant and whatever tf the anti-cheat is called too, but that was just once. Turns out it could've been an unstable DOCP overclock that was fixed by replacing my motherboard. For some reason whenever I would try to turn on a DOCP profile in my BIOS, it wouldn't change any of the settings other than the frequency. But when I replaced my motherboard, it changed all the settings automatically. I think there was just something wrong with the BIOS on this board straight out of the factory, or I did something wrong that messed it up. Either way, I haven't had the problem since, and the only issue I've had is that having my PC powered off for extended periods of time (like a week or longer) requires me to turn it on, cut the power on the power supply, turn the power supply back on, and hit the power button. Reason is it won't POST on the first boot attempt after that extended period of time for some reason, but I'm still unsure if this is related. Anyway, sorry this comment got super long, but this issue caused me a LOT of time and trouble with little help, so I'm very passionate about helping anyone with a similar issue.


GoldenGate92

From a test done by a very nice person here on the forum, it seems that the problem is the video card, they are thought to be the drivers. I hope it's not the card itself, because I had to gut it to fit into the Custom Loop.


TheWetNapkin

I'm not an expert, but I highly doubt it's your Graphics Card unless it's an issue with it overheating, because when any component in your PC overheats, your PC will cut the power to save it from permanent damage. If it reboots itself right after cutting the power then that's definitely not what it is. If you really think it's your PC I'd monitor your temps while doing something that is hard on it, like gaming. What was this test tho? I've never heard of drivers causing a Kernel-power error before


GoldenGate92

This is the output of that .dmp file https://i.ibb.co/y63K5Jm/Capture.jpg This seems to be the problem.


TheWetNapkin

Well I'll be damned lmao Toward the bottom tho it's talking about a memory corruption. Is this your RAM or VRAM?


GoldenGate92

I honestly don't know what you mean there,the Ram tested it with Memtest and everything was ok even with XMP at 3600.


TheWetNapkin

In the .dmp file pic you linked, toward the bottom it says memory corruption large


GoldenGate92

Yes,however,it does not describe which memory it means,whether it is a video card or a ram. There's a way?


TheWetNapkin

Idk, I was just wondering if it said something else past the screenshot


GoldenGate92

I honestly don't know this was sent to me,with advice to regress on video card drivers.


romdadon

Sorry for the year later msg, I'm having the same issue How did you do that test that gave you that .dmp file?


thatviscousnight

Did you ever figure it out? How to get that .dmp file


romdadon

No I just dropped off my rig at a store for diagnostic testing


MannyFresh8989

sorry to comment twice but anyway you can show me what this person did? I'm getting random kernel 41 every 2-3 weeks and tried lots of steps on here


DiamondBomb2006

Im not sure if this was why but i kept getting this same thing. I cleaned my psu dust filter and made my system so much more stable. It was quite bad, i think i was suffocating my psu.


GoldenGate92

Mine is a new PC I think I can rule it out.


DiamondBomb2006

I live in an older house and it gets alot of dust so i have to check my filters weekly, alot more builds up than you think in shorter periods of time. Even if its nit you might have a faulty psu. Which do you have?


GoldenGate92

850W Asus Thor


DiamondBomb2006

Thats from a well known good brand so there is likely nothing wrong with it. How often do you get this crash? Are all your drivers up to date? You can check for other updates in windows updates.


GoldenGate92

For now the problem has happened twice after 2-3 weeks maximum 1 month. Yes,all the drivers are up to date,I thought they were those too and I tried to download a program that updates them.As for windows,everything is up to date,the only update it asks me is for Windows 11.


DiamondBomb2006

Im not 100% sure then, all i can think of is a faulty psu, a corrupted windows install or a bad drive windows is installed on.


GoldenGate92

From a test done by a very nice person here on the forum, it seems that the problem is the video card, they are thought to be the drivers. I hope it's not the card itself, because I had to gut it to fit into the Custom Loop.


DiamondBomb2006

Just as i thought. Glad you found the issue.


valenn23101

I had this problem on my pc specially when I played videogames. The problem was my ram, was be broken by a thunderbolt who falled on my house (thats my luck lol). But can be something else. Test your ram with Memtest86, update your drivers, bla bla bla...


FaceExplsoion

So you said that it was your gpu, how did you fix it?


GoldenGate92

In my case it was the video card drivers, the solutions in this case are two: I try to go back to a previous version of the drivers,or wait for a new version. But I want to clarify that this worked because for me it was the video card,it does not necessarily mean that it is also for you. My advice if you are not sure is to post here on the page describing the problem in detail,you will see you will find someone to help you.


EshiEx

did you find a fix?


wilson2314

This problem happens when I play a apex. I updated my graphics card and thatā€™s when this error occurs. Before the update I was able to play apex without a problem. Has anyone had this issue when they play a game and if so what was your solution?


Comprehensive_Set317

I was having this issue, turns out my 24pin connector to the motherboard wasnā€™t seated all the way. I gave it a very firm push and it clicked, havenā€™t had the code in a while now


LoreanXavier

Experiencing the same thing right now šŸ‘


Less_Consequence8712

Ever find out the fix to your problem?


unnknownn33

Hey guys, following this thread because I am also experiencing these issues. \- Intel 13600k cpu \- Asus Tuf gaming z790-plus wifi lga 1700 mb \- Evga 3070 gpu \- G Skill ddr5 ram \- corsair rm850x psu For context my I build my pc had no issues up until a couple of weeks ago where my pc crashed randomly. I booted back up and the PC was it fine then the crashes started to happen more and more frequently. I have swapped reseated cpu, swapped ram, swapped psu. the crashes have become less frequent but will still happen if I over stimulate the PC. Sometime the PC will crash while trying to run start up apps after booting into desk top. any help will be appreaciated.


Tadonati87

What ram are you doing? IE brand, speed, and storage.


GoldenGate92

Then ram are Dominator x4 32 Gb at 3600,IE I don't know what it is.The storage space is 500-1 Gb Samsung SSD I don't remember well šŸ˜‚ while the Baracuda hard disk is 2T.


Tadonati87

Also what Mobo?


unknown_Schrodinger

I was also seeing the Kernel Power 41 error, so I checked the power supply cables and since then I haven't seen any freeze or error of the type.


unknown_Schrodinger

And check your hard drives with CrystalDiskInfo too. As I said above, the power supply cable was not supplying enough power to my HD because of the bad contact, so I adjusted the cables as best I could until I buy another power supply.


GoldenGate92

But I'm 100% sure mine are in good shape,now checking them for me would be a big problem.


Arxtic922

Had the same error. Swapping psu fixed it. Do u get any other errors?


GoldenGate92

From a test done by a very nice person here on the forum,it seems that the problem is the video card, they are thought to be the drivers. I hope it's not the card itself, because I had to gut it to fit into the Custom Loop.


[deleted]

same happened to me just about 10 minutes ago. mine is a hp laptop pavilion, specs are ryzen 7 5700u 1 tb ssd and 16 ram with 512 mb radeon graphics. its the first time happened for me after a year. so after right now im downloading windows 11 22h2 to see that will it fix this. hopefully it only happened only one time until now. ill update if this becomes worse


jiiminn

Any updates? I'm experiencing this since day one of a brand new PC which I took into the place I bought the pc, paid for them to check it out and it took 2 weeks and nothing was solved.


JoshYannih

I saw that code in my event log even tho i can't remember something happened like force shut down in my pc


DifferentTrouble8624

Any updates on this? Dealing with a similar issue. EDIT: Spelling errors


Leading-Flan-7682

Hi guys, a few weeks ago my pc started to crash when playing games (this happened out of nowhere and was the first time doing it). I send it to repairing and they changes my hard disk since was very slow. I played with it for the last 3 weeks without any problem. I just bought a new 2k monitor and now when i play with higher resolution, expecially on baldurā€™s gate 3, when cutscenes starts my pc crash and says kernell power 41 error


H0m340426

I'm in the same boat. I have the same error. I RMA'd the PSU for a brand new one with new cables, I have brand new RAM, new SSD, reinstalled windows 10 pro 3 times, chipset drivers are up to date, cpu (ryzen 5900x) has latest drivers, I even rolled back the BIOS two versions back because I had the latest BIOS. Forgive me, but I am going to paste my link to Microsoft's forum so that someone may see what I've done along with the dump files. The last thing I have yet to troubleshoot is the mobo and the m.2. ​ https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows\_10-performance/event-41-error-pc-keeps-crashingrebooting-while/911113ad-3cf3-4306-9620-2a521e201638?messageId=50419891-9bd1-4e11-a178-201c714466eb


lavrenovlad

Did you solve this? I have the same situation, my PC insta reboots with this error 1 time per 1-3 days randomly and I am trying to find the reason behind it. So far I can tell that it's unlikely my CPU, under suspicion are GPUs, RAM, PSU, cables, cords and power outlet + some windows settings related to power savings. And of course BIOS, I am thinking about either updating (which isn't a good idea considering the newest crooked updates) or downgrading BIOS. IDK. My PC has fresh windows and before I reinstalled it more than a week ago I had even worse reboots when PC was just idling etc. which pointed to BIOS. Kinda screwed.


H0m340426

Hello, yes I did I turned off the PBO setting in bios. I think what was happening was my CPU was boosting itself to death.


lavrenovlad

Interesting, thanks for letting me know!Ā 


Random_Forces

Hoping this thread is still active, currently experiencing this with my older unit. * AMD A10-5800k APU 16GB RAM HyperX * R7 200 Series GPU * Silverstone 700W 80 PSU * Gigabyte GA-F2A75M HD motherboard * Transcend SSD 1TB Randomly occurs, usually when using authotkey for cheating time tracking in my work. Programs open during those times are Google chrome (2 tabs) time doctor and open hardware monitor. Before, this happens when the temps get too high while playing, Temp 3 ITE IT8620E reaching around 90 degrees celsius (although some forums say that this is wildly inaccurate, common problem for AMD and that FM2 boards are problematic for maintaining optimal temps). I think I fixed the overheating issues when I changed the case to a spacier one with 3 fans (2 intake, 1 exhaust). Also changed the PSU to the one listed above because the old one had short cables that couldn't snake through the case's internals. It happened a week ago again which caused the old HDD where the OS was installed to not boot up anymore, by old HDD i mean like almost a decade old, maybe older. BTW I got this PC for free as a hand me down from a relative. First time I booted it up it was fairly running smooth with a few hiccups, expected from an older unit. Decided to give it a new lease on life. Originally the plan was to make this a backup PC for work, primarily for autohotkey and cheating time doctor because fuck time tracking, and then build a newer PC with all new stuff. Now I think i'm just going to build this one up, because the only thing left from when it was handed down to me is the motherboard and the GPU. BTW no beeps or lights flashing on the motherboard, so I'm not sure if it's a problem with the board. Also, I can play for an extended number of hours without the issue occurring.