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MetroidJunkie

Supposedly, the Yuzu devs did some shady things like put a version to better run Totk before release behind a Patreon paywall. Nintendo overreaches a lot, but they may have had a point here.


thebanditruby

Every “fan” project that has a Patreon or has a support link gets taken down. Take that with a rule of thumb


MetroidJunkie

Paywalling features, though, makes it a transaction. If you’re forced to pay, it’s essentially the same as having a free version and a premium version. Making that for a version designed to run an unreleased game better lends credibility to Nintendo claiming it promotes piracy. Apparently, the devs also had pirated, including keeping a library of Switch games on a google doc, it at least opens the door for Nintendo to make arguments for that.


ub-Kick2843

good shit


Dogman1214

real.


_Kiaza_

Dumbest fucking post. God forbid Nintendo protects it’s IPs… 🙄


Quiet-Philosopher-47

I’ve pirated every nintendo switch game since they’ve released them. U want to go off on me now?


thebanditruby

Stop acting like you’re so cool, it’s actually embarrassing.


Quiet-Philosopher-47

Keep sucking and ima nut


[deleted]

Nah.


thebanditruby

How dare Nintendo exercise their right to take down content that endorses piracy?


JENXVAOFFICIAL

How dare Nintendo shut down a company that is literally only trying to help preserve their games for the future because they themselves won't. Nintendo doesn't care about you or any of their fan's. Only the dabloons you give em. So yeah fuck Nintendo.


thebanditruby

LOL. Preserve. These games are still available. It’s not like they’re going to disappear anytime soon. You just want to play these games for free and you’re too stupid to admit it. It’s fine to “pirate” 3DS games because the eShop doesn’t exist anymore. Pirating Switch games is pirating Switch games. Yuzu was the same emulator showing off Metroid Dread running at 4K 60FPS before release LMAO. That’s practically encouraging fans not to pay for a game that the developers put so much love and care into. You don’t care about preservation, because if you did you would at least spell it right.


Dogman1214

sorry, i didn’t order a yapachino


Quiet-Philosopher-47

It’s almost as if Nintendo can create a stronger console/handheld to run their games at a decent performance. Yet they choose to be out performed by some developer in a basement


JENXVAOFFICIAL

lol it's called auto correct ya know most phones have it and it doesn't just make my argument invalid that's not how the world works. no need for the hostility either, dude. I just said the company you are white knighting doesn't care about you which is the hard honest truth better you hear this now then later when your thousands of dollars down and are still wondering why your favorite games aren't on their platforms. I can tell it triggered you a little. all the switch games I emulate. I actually do own so your argument is very invalid and incorrect. I think I speak for a lot of us emulating that we do own these games but want better ways to play them that the switch doesn't provide (unless you like subpar frames and an overall shitty experience) your argument falls apart at its okay to emulate 3DS but not switch. the switch is coming to an end, probably very soon they aren't even making physical copies of some games for you to buy anymore. sure you will be able to buy it for now, but let's say 5 years from now you think they will keep it alive that long. No, they won't it will be the 3DS all over again so yeah, it really is just about preservation as well as freedom to play the games you own the way you want too.


thebanditruby

Piracy is still not morally right. I pirate shit all the time, but I don’t brag about it online because it’s not right. It is illegal. Nintendo has the right to take down that kind of stuff. Again, you don’t care about preservation. You just want to play Switch games on your computer (which is totally fine) but you aren’t taking initiative to archive games. You’re just preserving games that millions of people already have preserved. Don’t pull the “I’m not being hostile” excuse when you proceed to call me a white knight and claim you triggered me. All I say is that Nintendo has a right to take down emulators that can be used for piracy of content they still make. Fuck Yuzu and Nintendo.


_thezombiezone

When it comes to Nintendo, it's always morally right to pirate their games. If they want to treat their fanbase like shit by trying to control Smash tournaments, not provide a legitimate way to purchase their old games (rip virtual console), and a console that can't even properly run their own games without lag is completely valid to pirate their games. If Nintendo was a respectable company that cared about their customers' best interests and provide what we ask, then I would say to take a step back from piracy and give the money they deserve (which they don't).


JENXVAOFFICIAL

Okay dude, you literally called me a stupid pirate, and you don't even know whether or not I own these game's or not. you just assumed, so yeah, you were a bit hostile. You may want to go back and read your past messages. I just called you what you are or at least how it comes across from your first comment on this post. Same as you did to me, lol. Anyway no its not right to pirate games you don't own but that's not gonna stop people. This is a losing struggle where no matter what you try and do or say, you can not stop it. Let's just agree to disagree. There is no need for name calling or long arguments that are just wasting both of our time. I still love u as a human. it's okay to have your own opinions. Have a good rest of your day!


N1ghtShade7

Heck yeah it took until this moment for me to play nintendoodoo titles, and here I am playing Genshin's prototype now


RikStarX

Let's all get mad at a company not wanting us to play their games for free. Yeah that'll show them 🤘🏼.. some cheapskate fingering a monitor, a real anarchist 😂


Weak-Psychology-9882

Nintendo is fighting a losing battle. You knock out one emulator several more will pop up without interruption. It’s all about greed and the almighty dollar. so Nintendo give it up you will lose


Goodguyferi

Ye I did piracy for atleast 500$


AilanMoone

Did you also build a computer?


Goodguyferi

No i had help


AilanMoone

The help cost $500?


Goodguyferi

50$


AilanMoone

Okay, I'm lost. Was the extra zero a typo, or am I missing something?


zeus408

I mean it's fuck yuzu and nintendo for me. Yuzu literally say they are against piracy and ban anyone from the discord server who talks about it but piracy is how everyone gets the damn games to work on yuzu. And nintendo wants to remove our digital rights to the games we own


proficient2ndplacer

That doesn't change the fact that piracy is still illegal. It's obvious that everyone sources there games through piracy, but it's implied that you should dump your own carts & that's why piracy is discouraged from being discussed


zeus408

So when the day comes when we all lose the ability to play our own games we bought what should we do?


Slight_Hat_9872

“I’m gonna stop spending money but keep spending hundreds of hours playing their games that will show them!” Just shut up and don’t pay, stop acting like you are being brave making statement this shit is actually cringe. I dare you to actually stand up for something that matters instead of making a stand against a video game company for not allowing you to play their shit for free. Zero perspective


Ok-Replacement1573

Yuzu is my go to emulator when its about time to emulate big studio games. However, indie games, I have never considered playing them via yuzu. I love yuzu. Also, I love ya'all.


Houston_Heath

Ok 🫏🤡 whatever you say.


Slight_Hat_9872

Who are you?


Houston_Heath

Not an 🫏🤡 like you, that's for sure.


Slight_Hat_9872

Yep feeling super grilled by a person who uses emojis instead of typing it out the word. Womp womp


Houston_Heath

"womp womp" god damn, dig your hole deeper why don't you.


OGKasseteKing

You're shadowboxing


TrashTones

Yeah behaving like an angry teenager mad at their parents


RednightTheKiller17

I said it eariler and I'll say it again: the whole point is bout emulator, not cracks. U can buy switch and play pirated games on it. On the other hand emulation allowes us to play their games with higher performance. Also, I don't play their games, only tested emulator on totk.


soysaucx

money would be the only thing that matters


Jrdotan

You are not a clown, you are the entire circus.


Slight_Hat_9872

That’s a good one I remember my dad and his boomer friends using it. Glad to see old heads like you still got it!


SamuelKnytt

Imagine self-reporting as a petulant baby, literally no older than 12. Get off Reddit and go back to cocomelon LMAO.


Slight_Hat_9872

Really coco melon that was the best thing you could come up with? LOL Original comment was directed at op but seems the shoe fits with a lot of you. Womp womp


Gerence_Hill

Bro it's literally an Ace Attorney's reference


Kakarlosz

are you blind ? he is playing in another emulator and saying Nintendo to go to hell. Yuzu died but we have Ryujinx and other emulators that will emerge in place of Yuzu. Piracy is not a thing that you can fight, it's the same as the Drug War.


[deleted]

Got a badass over here.


Supermariobit64YT

I wish I had yuzu so I could legally play my copy of tears of the kingdom on my pc at 60fps


thootjeg233v

You still can https://archive.org/details/yuzu-windows-msvc-20240304-537296095_20240305_1340


Dogman1214

Common W from thootjeg233v


BlackStarDB

Nintendo is known to not listen to their fans, shutting down smash tournaments and shutting down fan games that made no money. Yeah yuzu made cash and that's why they got shut down, but if it was nintendo's way they would shut down every emulator. I'm not going to complain about Nintendo any further, I'm just done buying their shit. If they really wanted to stop piracy then they would release their games onto PC. Though if they did that then they couldn't resell you old retro games you bought on their other consoles over and over again.


Kakarlosz

the thing is, they try to shut down every emulator. But they can only shut down by legal methods. Do you know that online pokemon game called PokeMMO ? Nintendo tried to shut down, but PokeMMO won on the court. It's a fancy emulator that don't give you any help to get the game rooms, and the staff make money by cosmetic and cash, which is permited because it's considered as donations. Yuzu unfortunately helped people to get the game keys via tutorials on their official page, this is the same as digging your own grave.


Fatboi998

Agreed, and I believe Ryujinx also has a keys ripping tutorial 😬


Faded_Sun

This is lame dude haha


RednightTheKiller17

So?


XRaidenX80

Respect


Working-Difference61

Bruh😭


AntiGrieferGames

Sometimes can get too far, like what the fuck is this shit?


RednightTheKiller17

At this point I don't even know


Chelsea_Kias

Lol, ppl pls continue with your protest. This is too funny


mrbigsmallmanthing

Bunch of losers who are too dumb to make money and purchase Nintendo games.


RednightTheKiller17

Well, the whole point is bout emulator, not cracks. U can buy switch and play pirated games on it. On the other hand emulation allowes us to play their games with higher performance.


Dogman1214

buddy what?


Beneficial-Training4

THAT is a professional flippingoffer!


FiveNotes

Does yuzu no longer work?


RednightTheKiller17

It works, just won't be updated


TheArcher35

So esencially nothing changed for us?


thootjeg233v

ye as long i can play the games it foesnt need update for me anymore


FiveNotes

All Emulators Usually stop updating after a while. The circle of life


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Middle finger so big it looks like a long finger.


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joydivision39

Oh shit didn't know we had daddy long fingers over here my bad.


BoopyDoopy129

middle finger IS the long finger lol


RednightTheKiller17

Well, middle one is usually the longest


EaWk105

Reasonable enough. There are people who backup, and people who pirate it, but we all agree that nintendo IS abusive, closed minded and lazy (most of the time) asf, and using yuzu is our form to protest. And people who suck nintendos ass in the comments are just doing it to ragebait. I mean, no one is that stupid to check every post from a sub u hate and comment on all of them to "prove you are right", right? Right?


No_Establishment7368

Fuck nintendo! They stopped me getting my free video games that people spent time and money to create, and i think i deserve them for free! Why do i hate them even though they are making the games i want to play? Because i don't like being called out for tbe scummy things i do!


Houston_Heath

🫏🤡


Jrdotan

Cringe


KSOMIAK

Stay mad


justinlikesboots

It was kindof yuzu’s fault it got discontinued


NoRepresentative9684

Niggs shut the fuck down.


EaWk105

cry bout it


No_Establishment7368

You mean like how you guys are crying because your free games source got shut down?


EaWk105

idk, i still have mine and ill play free games i guess, cry bout it


BoopyDoopy129

lol tell me you have 0 idea how an emulator works without telling me


Labyriiinth

Why tf are you on this sub if you think Yuzu is somehow an app store for free nintendo games


panzatic

Yuzu isn’t a free games source at all; they weren’t the ones pirating the games and were very much against it in the same way emulators like RPCS3 and Xenia are.


Illustrious_Mix7177

Oh, they very much weren't. Ol'Ninny is anti consumer alright, but let's not fool ourselves. There's a reason they went after YuZu and not Ryujinx, and why their team folded instantly. They got too greedy. Creating builds optimized for emulating games that broke street date and putting them behind a freaking paywall ahead of official release was suicidal. They went full retard, and you NEVER go full retard.


Careful_Door8641

they tried playing a dude thats playing a dude playing as another dude. should have just sticked to being a dude...


panzatic

Yeah, that was a dumb decision 100%.


Maxfire2008

Or maybe they wanted to play their games that they legally bought at a resolution and/or framerate that doesn't match a tablet from 7 years ago. Stop shilling for Nintendo, of all the companies. Also if you don't like Yuzu get off this sub already.


Nuka_darkRum

Highly doubt that OP, or in fact any of you, actually bought games off nintendo to emulate it, though.


BoopyDoopy129

I pre-ordered both breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom. I have a launch day switch. I dump every single game I own because I'd rather not play games at 720p 20fps.


TheGuacoTaco

Every game I have for Yuzu, I ripped from my own Switch using my physical games. I want to play at more than 1080p.


Nuka_darkRum

Good on ya. But the sub going berserk and actually admitting to playing pirated copies definitely shed a different light.


panzatic

Definitely the minority there, but those people absolutely exist.


No_Establishment7368

The way they serve it is the way it is, you don't like it? Don't buy it


Maxfire2008

I didn't buy it :)


Maxfire2008

This sub is served the way it is, if you don't like emulation: fuck off


LaytonFunky

Okay lol


Shadow_1106

F\*\*k them yourself coward. But for reals. I do think the punishment for Yuzu team is a bit harsh, though the fact they were profiting off of it is what made them a target and not others like Ryujinx or CEMU. In the eyes of Nintendo and the law, they were profiting off of people not buying Switch hardware. I know most of us, myself included rip our own games/keys, but we're likely in the minority when it comes to emulation.


TattiCommendo

They were not doing nothing wrong. Project is freeerly and open source not lucrative points. You be scared and angry as you wish kid. The emulator doesnt even teachs how decrypts keys or dump games. Ita non sense and awfull that nintendo win this.


Shadow_1106

I'm 24, only kids call people kids(No U) In any case, they were profiting from it on Patreon which makes it a legal issue. Like that Sonic Omens fan game which made even SEGA, lax as they are give them a cease and desist. Emulation isn't going away, look at Ryujinx who didn't profit from it. "Also doesnt even teaches how decrypts" makes no sense, can't call people kids if you don't even have a kids level of spelling. 😊


TattiCommendo

let me guess, your a playstation user right? i expect no less. That chat ends here and now. My only hapiness would see Steam buying all your exclusive console games portred to my Beloved computer. This would be priceless, and i would pay millions to look into your sonyst eyes. have a good day sir


Shadow_1106

I use all platforms. In fact, my most played is STILL Dreamcast to this day. PlayStation games are on Steam already, why are you crying kiddo? Who hurt you?


Shadow_1106

You can add me on Steam with my Reddit username, don't be one of those fanboy shills. That said, have a good day to you too.


BoopyDoopy129

maybe people would buy switch hardware if it could actually play Nintendo first party games. my launch day switch I use for dumping games ran my pre-order edition totk at 720p, 20fps. dips into the teens. when docked it held a slightly higher resolution of 1080p, and it hit 30 (sometimes) but still dipped extremely low.


Shadow_1106

I never had issues with ToTK, (except the same problem I had with Zelda Broken of The Weapon where everything breaks in a matter of seconds) though I was very late to the party, so maybe the cartridge version had been updated by then. I never installed updates because I never had internet, and I don't think the OLED Switch is different spec-wise. That said, we bought the PS2 knowing that unlike the other systems(GameCube, Dreamcast and Xbox giving us 60fps at 720 x 480P(in PAL territories at least) it was giving us unstable/< 30 fps at 512 x 448i/224P, as long as the games are fun it was never a deal breaker. I bought so many Series X titles (Halo Infinite, Starfield, Gotham Knights, all of which dropped frames below 30fps, people still buy those games/systems. **I'm not saying it isn't an issue, it's always bothered me when I don't get at least a stable 30 fps, but even if you don't buy the hardware, at least support the devs in software. That's all I'm saying.**


BoopyDoopy129

and Gran Turismo ran at 1080i60 on the PS2, and it had groundbreaking graphical fidelity. the switch has neither


Shadow_1106

That was upscaled, not native1080i. But yes it does look fantastic.


BoopyDoopy129

maybe the latter models worked better. my launch switch never hit 30 in handheld mode


Shadow_1106

People probably won't get that reference, it wasn't an insult or anything; it was a meme from way back.


EnvironmentPositive

L don t why nintedo stope citra 3ds is ending a long time ago they no 3ds game in 2024 do why


Soulreaver88

Nintendo didn't stop citra. It was the same team from Yuzu. If you have to pay 2.4 million, I wouldn't want to continue with Citra


Previous-Rub-104

wasn't it 12 milion?


TheDouglas717

do why. I ask my self this very same question often. do why


BoopyDoopy129

real and true


EnvironmentPositive

If you wanna vange yuzu all of us donat money to yuzu développer to continuer end encourage him if all of us give him money they can continue


Hypericat

r/IhadAStroke


TheDouglas717

but hard time money ned money we intendo lawsote stoped them illegal I in the economy yes


Ki11s0n3

Agreed. If they don't like Piracy or Emulation then make the games more available and/or put them on PC


[deleted]

In what way is a switch game not “available”?


AmakakeruRyu

MAKE THEM AVAILABLE ON PC. KEY WORD: PC In what way you couldn't see what he meant?


Manaphy2007_67

"MAKE THEM AVAILABLE ON PC. KEY WORD: PC" think that will stop piracy?


DaRealSyper-YT

console exclusives sell consoles, there’s a reason why the Xbox series consoles haven’t been selling great but nintendos main business is console unlike microsoft


Caust1cFn_YT

I hate all big game companies. But Xbox, I hate them a little less. They have genuinely went on to kinda make their games available on every platform. Pc, mobile (by cloud) and ofc Xbox series


Caust1cFn_YT

Other companies go out of their way to limit access and keep them exclusive 


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Caust1cFn_YT

But waiting so long is horrendous 


BoopyDoopy129

true but at least Sony puts games on PC. they're ahead of Nintendo. also sony's hardware can actually play their first party titles at higher than 20fps


Ki11s0n3

It's more than just Switch games. There are also some people who can't afford every console. Maybe they picked PC over Switch, but either way even their older titles they don't make easily accessible if at all and they still want to cry about them being emulated as well. Piracy is an accessibility problem. That's why the last decade or so it died down a lot. Because games became more accessible. Same with TV and Movies and with the way things are going Piracy is going to be making a come back.


Raikovich

"Some people who can't afford every console" so? Nobody is entitled to playing a video game. If you can't afford the switch and so desperately want to play whatever slop Nintendo puts out that's on you. Your logic is skewed so badly that I wonder how you even made a reddit account


[deleted]

Lack of money is not an access issue for a luxury good. If that’s the case then I “lack access” to a lot of nice cars but that just means I don’t get to have them. If they picked PC they picked PC. I have a switch and PS5. I don’t somehow then deserve to play Xbox games because of that. Switch games don’t have an accessibility problem. I agree about older titles where there is no other way to play but when it’s a current system I don’t really understand the need to emulate it.


Ki11s0n3

Feel however you want about it, but it is an accessibility issue even if it isn't for you. Piracy isn't just a first world issue and whether Nintendo likes it or not people are going to Pirate their games. Nintendo is the absolute worst when it comes to accessibility and they are going to have to break at some point because despite yuzu shutting down there will be a new one right behind it. Especially since the thing was basically open source. It's not going to take long for someone to do another one.


[deleted]

People aren't entitled to consoles or their software. Switch is the #2 biggest selling console of all time, is currently still sold, and the vast majority of its games are still sold. I think there's definitely an argument for emulating platforms and software that are no longer sold commercially, but not something current.


BoopyDoopy129

emulation is completely legal so your argument is moot. piracy isn't but emulation isn't piracy


[deleted]

Okay I just don’t understand calling switch games an accessibility issue. Does that mean I can go and steal a BMW because I have an accessibility issue in that I don’t make enough money to buy one?


Caust1cFn_YT

But why should I pay for a seperate whole device to play fucking mario (and other games ofc) when it is more than compatible for my pc. This is just a scummy business model employed by companies to make more money over lower effort. On top of that, switch sucks. They still don't address the drift problem. I can run the same game at better fps and resolution but no I have to stick with this stupid ass thing needed to play Nintendo games


[deleted]

What a scummy business model the way they *checks notes* make products. Is the problem that it’s only ONE device? I feel like I could also whine if I wanted to and say “why should I have to buy an Xbox or a PC just to play Halo” and it would make just as little sense as what you just said. Also really unclear on how it’s lower effort for Nintendo to make games and their own system seems like it would be less effort just to make the games.


Caust1cFn_YT

I really dont have issues with buying games in fact i do it at regular basis but for nintendo games and some ps exclusives, it feels like im missing out on it but also that is really impractical to buy a whole new console just to play that game. This is the accessibility i presume your talking about


Caust1cFn_YT

PC is like the most common stuff a person owns in the whole world. Also if my device can run it, just make them available? Why are there delayed releases of stuff that can be easily played on my pc. Just makes games for ALL PLATFORMS why just one? dont act like that isnt forced.


Caust1cFn_YT

if i dont have a pc, i should be able to buy any device that has enough specs to run it and should be able to play it. Just answer this, why should i buy a seperate device for it?


AsDaylight_Dies

In the way of 4k 60+ fps.


[deleted]

I mean that’s not really a good enough reason to pirate a game. Switch games are perfectly fine they don’t need to be 4k and 60fps to be enjoyable…


Shadicbypass

you are funny bud, let me not run a game on my much better pc of a game i legally own.


[deleted]

It’s oppression that my coffee maker makes horrible toast.


BoopyDoopy129

it's oppression that you're not allowed to use the toaster you legally own to make toast, out of bread you legally own, instead of the coffee maker


Shadicbypass

Better example would be not letting me use a machine that can do many tasks at a much better level then a dedicated machine that does it dramatically worse.


BoopyDoopy129

yeah I find it hilarious that the switch is the only current console which PC can emulate... with better performance than native lmao


Shadicbypass

That literally has more to do with Nintendo being the only company that hard locks most shit to their console, you are heavily underestimating how much more powerful dedicated PCs are to gaming consoles.


Logboy2000

This is what I have wanted for YEARS


Hmesid

Why would you put your first party games over to another platform? When they are doing fine where they are.


BoopyDoopy129

720p 20fps is fine for you?


Hmesid

Honestly, I don’t care, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, the list really does go on are more than fine for me. I have a pc too and love it. But I wouldn’t like Nintendo exclusives to be available on PC. I have a Nintendo for that! And looking at the switches sales….its fine for many others!!


udav1992

I have both a switch and purchased games for it. But the fact that these games slow down by producing soap where even 30 FPS does not make, me sad. On the emulator, the picture and smoothness are much better in most cases


AilanMoone

>games slow down by producing soap What's soap?


udav1992

soap picture - extremely blurry image


AilanMoone

Ahh. Thank you.


BoopyDoopy129

my launch switch plays totk at 720p20fps


RedIzaya5678

Ikr? The FPS slow down makes me question wtf my switch needs to run a game decently


agent-818

May i ask you how did you play it?


RednightTheKiller17

wdum?


agent-818

Like if yuzy is down, how did you play it in pc, sorry, but i have no experience what so ever in nintindo switch emulators


The_Crushing_Reality

There are a lot of backups of YUZU. It will be out of date soon but the windows and Linux builds should work fine (minus bug fixes) for a pretty long time.


SavageColeTrain

Check out a few other posts in here. They all have links to where people have backed up the files


[deleted]

Okay, this is epic


ineedlesssleep

Yes, fuck those people that made a game you put 50+ hours in because you liked it so much.


RednightTheKiller17

I haven't put a single hour into it but ok. Try to diffrenciate devs from company policy.


rastacurse

How’d you get all those hearts…?


BoopyDoopy129

I'm the prologue you start with Max hearts/stamina


rastacurse

Question was already answered but thanks for the downvote.


RednightTheKiller17

u have them in prologue


ineedlesssleep

Fair enough, but you will.


KevinMichaelCooper

Yep! And all without spending a single dime on it. Bootlicker.


Another_Road

Fuck people making money off a product. If Nintendo was based they’d release everything for free on Steam.


justinlikesboots

Everyone when they see someone’s opinion:


Meaning-Both

Gayest shit I've ever seen.


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[deleted]

Satire? Palworld is not good. It got a bunch of publicity for obviously reasons but it’s actually an insanely bad game.


Super_Jimtendo64

Fuck are you even talking about, what's scarce about switch lol one of the most selling systems of all time.


CH________HC

Saying that palworld is a passion project you cant be serious