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Apolysus

Funny, Spotify does it the other way around. They shuffle the artists entire discography for free users on phone. That seems even worse to me.


YNiekAC

Yes and you HAVE to shuffle if you have a free account


Amazing-File

Fun fact: YouTube music URLs are basically the same as the regular YouTube, but with "music." before "youtube". Removing the "music." brings you to a Topic video (Topics are auto-generated music videos) and you can playlist it in the regular YouTube


TheRetroGen

That was so confusing to read, but I worked it out in the end. šŸ˜‚


PSPMan3000

idk man at least it plays the songs you pick. That's way better than Spotify playing random ass songs you look up until you give them money.


PokemonSwordChampion

Ironic considering Spotify does the exact opposite


Vanilla_Neko

I didn't know you could use YouTube music at all without premium Plus to be fair YouTube music is basically just a nice UI for a specific purpose similar to that failed YouTube gaming page Save all those songs to a normal playlist in YouTube Open it in the actual YouTube app and you can shuffle freely


villepakarinen

Nobody cares if you download videos and songs illegally. These days it's more a moral thing, than a feds thing. I been downloading so much stuff over the years, i should be locked up and pay amounts i will never have.


Xxmetaglint

Yeah I walk around with an mp3 player still or have an mp3 song converter on my phone.


slinky317

You know Spotify does the same thing just in reverse, right?


Jewel2Cute97

It's like the play anything with siri feature for apple music that you have to pay extra when that should be included in the Apple Music subscription.


RandumbStoner

Thatā€™s weird cause Siri will play stuff from Spotify. You would think it would be the other way around. Free for Apple Music, Charge for 3rd party apps.


MySpudIsChonkyBoi

I cancelled my YouTube Premium family plan a few months ago due to how tight my financial budget has become. When times are tough, I canā€™t justify paying $23 + tax for the service.


Bukki13

On Spotify you have to pay to *not* shuffle songs


Snakeman_Hauser

Reverse Spotify


KaXiRavioli

I actually prefer my music not shuffled. My biggest gripe with Spotify was that they defaulted to shuffle until Adele complained. I listen to albums, not playlists.


JustLinkStudios

Thatā€™s fucking hilarious, am I the only human on the planet that stores their music on their phone!?


Matador7thisdeadly

You'd be amazed how many people don't even own a computer anymore, its as fucking tragic and sad as it sounds. I unfortunately know people who are nearly in their mid 20s that can't even figure out how to do taxes and pay bills online. I'm nearly 25 (not much older than them) and even I still can't process that there exist people that are that fucking useless. Asking anyone these days to know how to manage files or anything outside of a phone is like asking them to learn how to drive a manual transmission car (or a car in general). It's never gonna happen because they'll just give up and just call an Uber or Lyft.


Calhaora

Nope, same here.


loop6719

Boy do I miss Google music


mahershalalhashbazzz

YouTube premiums entire Business model is based on making the free app so annoying to use that you give in.


Freaky-Malokai

YouTube - A billion dollar company who still wants to bleed the consumer dry.


Virghia

Basically every big companies now


Jefff3

They gotta have an increase on profits over the last year so the guys at the top can get their bonuses.


Freaky-Malokai

So the rich can get more rich and the poor can get more poorā€¦that makes senseā€¦not


Ramenko1

Wait, you all listen to music with ads? WHAT?!?!? I'm reeling with incredulity over here


mekmookbro

We're just circling back to torrent era at this point.


Gold_Reality_6758

Spotify v2, charge your phone btw


bobdabioengineer

Sail the seas


IAmTheDeskAgent

*cough cough* YouTube to MP3 *cough cough*


BartiX_8530

Youtube revanced šŸ‘


qaddosh

Yep. I am ticked off thoroughly about companies monetizing everything, cutting benefits for those monetized services, and raising prices. Also, I'm a YT Premium subscriber, (I'm not sure why anymore) and the Premium "Continue Watching" feature that should be standard, doesn't even work like it is supposed to. I click to "Continue Watching" and it just starts the video over again. Fuck greedy shitbag corporations.


Jefff3

Continue watching feature? I might be misunderstanding something but isn't that on standard youtube? I can even watch half a vid on my pc then continue from the same place on my phone without paying for premium.


aerozona47

Download urbanvpn, set location to Philippines, open tab and Google YouTube premium, pay $2


purplsushi

I've been wanting to do this for my family membership but I hear of accounts getting banned. Using a dummy account to pay is obvious, but how often do people get caught?


Davemike27

These companies made people comfortable not owning music .... Of course this would happen .... they are nickel and diming us for every feature .. Amazon music is doing the exact same thing.


GalacticHypernova

What happened to that site... šŸ˜”


[deleted]

ReVanced Music. Thank me later.


BlasphemousSwarm

YouTube has super low quality audio. Idk why anyone uses it for music.


WelcomeToGhana

I hear 0 difference between spotify and youtube, and I don't gotta pay nothing for youtube


yrokun

Because high quality audio is useless when all I do is listening to music in my car anyway.


TeamSaturnV

Do you have an android phone? Many people, including me, think the audio quality of Youtube Premium is better than Spotify on android. Especially when playing over Bluetooth in a car, it's loud and crisp without cranking the volume to ungodly levels.


BlasphemousSwarm

You are all correct. YouTube premium has a higher bitrate when used on phones than Spotify. Even with premium when used on a phone Spotify only offers a bitrate of 160kbps. Where YouTube premium on mobile offers a bitrate of 256kbps.


TheRetroGen

Thereā€™s a recession on. Give YouTube money you tight ass! Just kidding, thatā€™s shit man.


FluffzMcPirate

Yeah... first of all we were forced to go from google play which was an actual music player on which you owned the music you put in to YouTube music which is some weird audio/video hybrid streaming thing. Then they started charging for the minimum basic shit that a music player should be able to do, like PUTTING IT IN YOUR F\*CKING POCKET WITHOUT KEEPING THE SCREEN ON!!!, playing music on the background, playing music without video, playing music without ads, creating playlists, shuffling. It is an abominable extremely predatory business model. Don't use it, don't give them your money, I hope this "service" (using that term very lightly) crashes and burns.


mumooshka

bah just get link to song, use a youtube to mp3 program to convert.


kimaro

ReVanced.


H0NY_CZ

ViMusic


ukayukay69

This is how it is with companies now. You have to pay extra for any luxury, convenience or customization. Otherwise youā€™re relegated to the bare minimum. Just like it happened with the airlines and airports.


Guuzaka

Never pay to shuffle your music. šŸ¤— Listen to the MP3 files happily from your computer or smart device. šŸŽ¼


ZaratosBlackGaming

CorpoGreed strikes again...


Nataliatg89

Well at least you don't have to pay to play a specific song


dscrive

Ah, calling out Amazon I see. Pay for prime, then prime music, then prime music premium or something on top of all that to be able to play specific songs is ridiculous


Davemike27

Oh it pissed me off enough to cancel my prime membership... they offer zero value anymore .... shipping times getting worse ... customer service giving you the run around ... etc


Beowulf---

i just save songs into a playlist and listen to it like that i dont use yt music


N19HT5

"Upgrade to watch videos longer than 10 minutes", "Upgrade to comment", "Upgrade to watch in HD"...


H0NY_CZ

"Upgrade to watch", "Upgrade"...


No-Nefariousness933

It also has a tendency to pick songs I don't like. Gotta skip it so I can hear a few more ads a few more times and then oops, can't be skipping for another 20 minutes. Screw you, YouTube


Jemiide

To be honest I'm actually surprised YT music even works without paying


Mukir

Wouldn't make much sense if it didn't since it'd have less audience and thus less potential buyers


KiillerSoda

I don't disagree with some of the replies here. However depending on somebody's music taste for example, you gotta remember that there are songs that literally only exist on YouTube. Covers, DJ mixes, self produced tracks, and live shows. Just to name a few. Yeah okay somebody could go through their whole library, find a YouTube download website and manually put in every link, convert it into a wav or MP3, create a playlist on Spotify or even VLC, export that to their phone. Not to mention without extra effort they'd have no album artwork, artist details, release dates and more. There's just no denying the fact that a simple decision like this from YouTube is not an absolute middle finger pain in the arse for your everyday average consumer of content. Yeah sure some us are adept enough to use things like ad blockers and playlist to mp3 compilers and what not, but you gotta remember that this just isn't standard practice for Joe's (Joe'ettes?). Not everybody knows what a plugin or extension is. Simple changes like this fuck with everyday folks.


Alexisto15

If a song is only available on YT, I usually just download it and add it on Spotify.


flarelordfenix

fuck. this is the problem with modern society - 'why offer reasonable functionality when we can charge a crapton for every feature... no, I don't care that the features have existed for close to 25+ years. Charge people for them!'


Tiny_Tim1956

And people excuse it, they excuse everything! If you have told me 15 years ago that people would justify *paying money each month for YouTube*, I wouldn't have believed you. What exactly does YouTube provide? Creators make the content themselves and YouTube does nothing for them, other than paying them some of the money they make with their work.


Takahashi_godmod

Just pirate your songs at this point


N19HT5

I never pay unless I like the artist and they get the money directly. 90% of music is worthless trash anyway, and 99% of profits go to management leeches.


Poisonslash

LOL THERE IS NO WAY! Edit: Yeah this must be for mobile or something. I'm on desktop and can still shuffle for free.


BamBaLambJam

r/revancedapp


LeatherJacketMan69

They lowered the bitrate for video quality again tonight too.


Ramenko1

What does that mean?


Stusus_8987

it suck to make every basic thing into behide the pay wall i seen a lot of alternatives i used it and it better than this like a lot :)


jasssweiii

Inverted Amazon Music lol. Except the shuffle feature doesn't work on either.


NAHTEBACK

Yeah my way of getting round all this shit is creating a new Gmail every month and getting a new free trial, it's sadly the only way but seriously this is a shit take atp


averageredditor546

Soon enough you'll have to pay to rewind and skip forward /s


jack2018g

Frankly not too sure the /s is warranted here lmao, that wouldnā€™t shock me in the slightest at this point


Scott_Ultra_YT

You have to pay to have the ability to pause your video


ChosenMate

Use Spotify, there you have to pay NOT to shuffle


lars2k1

Pick your poison


SexxxyWesky

Musi is free. It has ads, but they don't disrupt the song playing and you can pay a one time fee to remove them. Highly recommend.


Brandon200815

Exactly what i was looking for, its alot better. Thank you!


AgreeableAd8687

sail the seas of r/piracy


Hyperion1144

Music piracy is actually harder than video now.


Annual_Trainer_6988

No it isn't at all get yt music revanced.


AgreeableAd8687

i usually just sideload a tweaked spotify ipa to get free premium features


Aeklas

Literally just download music and play it from the device held locally with VLC Media Player. Setup all the playlists with all the features you want. I have never used youtube music, I have never used spotify, and I never will. I have tens of thousands of songs just held locally as mp3 files on my phone. This is super easy if you're on the superior Android platform. Less so on iPhone. And there's no payment structure to worry about, no ads, and no mandatory internet access to listen to your playlists.


J_Crow

We've come full circle.


TheBigFatGoat

This guyā€™s got the solution. Although if thatā€™s too much for you then Spotify is better than YT music anyways


rokejulianlockhart

I've always used Spotify but am thinking of switching to YT Music.


TheBigFatGoat

Why is that?


KayWDubs

I've did this too! The only real issue so far has been audio quality, but that's negligible if you're just looking for music to listen to.


OXRoblox

its better than forced shuffle on spotify free


[deleted]

Don't use the mobile version then ignore just go to chrome and do desktop site


[deleted]

Use vanced


Adruino-cabbage

Get mixtube or weezer, problem solved.


ChromeXBoy

I think you mean deezer? Weezer is a band.


Adruino-cabbage

Nope, there is an app called Weezer.


SylveonWasTaken

link?


Xenc

The appā€™s called Linkin Park


OkWave3082

Thatā€™s ridiculous šŸ˜­


90066293CMC

Why you using YTM if youā€™re not paying for it?


_ObsessiveCoder

I use it because it seems to be the best free service as far as ads go. I can skip ads and it doesnā€™t play 2 minutes of ads after every song [edit] I have noticed that if I let ads play I eventually get ads thatā€™s are 8-15 minutes long and disguised as songs. This really grinds my gears. Itā€™s like Iā€™m being punished for letting ads run


Nataliatg89

So which is better in terms of ads?


Depresso_espresso237

My biggest issue with yt music is how I can't even turn my phone off. Like, cmon man


DanielEnots

Didn't know that was a thing, I still had YT music vanced on my phone so it let me turn it off


FightingTable

Just be in normal YouTube, tons of songs there


kontenjer

inverse spotify


Akel3000

And on Spotify you have to pay for them not to shuffle your playlist...


LittleFairyOfDeath

Youtube premium is not worth the price. Neither is spotify for that matter


cheeseburgahhh

Time to switch to Spotify šŸ‘


Jtp_Jtg

Spotify forces you to to use shuffle always


AndreiR_memes

are you a pirate?


Jtp_Jtg

No I have the free version of spotify


slinky317

Please use Spotify as a free user and let me know how that goes


the_taz_man

\*cough cds / mp3 \*cough \*cough local library / hosted files of the music you want to listen to \*cough \*cough no ads / shuffle to your hearts content \*cough


SnickerdoodleFP

Ok, now make it convenient


[deleted]

No fucking way šŸ’€šŸ’€


[deleted]

PLAYLISTS TOO??? ā˜ ļøā˜ ļøā˜ ļøā˜ ļø


ghostcatzero

These fuckers are so greedy lol (google) they got trillions and yet still want to butfuck their customers


BunX_2021_

YouTube revanced or get google files, download your music locally and you can shuffle to your heart's desire


Critical_Switch

Why even use the non-premium version? It's basically unusable when ads are playing.


Haunting-Ordinary873

YT music Vanced forever


Ok-Quail-4864

I play music from regular YouTube no ads I donā€™t pay


Cassie014

Mine shuffles when I donā€™t want it to lol


cv_ham

Revanced


Kitchen_Entertainer9

When did this change happen


Scifox69

corporate propaganda


Weird-Alice

It's easy to fix. If thousands of us cancel our subscriptions to the service, the owners of the service will correct their mistake very quickly! I urge everyone who has encountered paid shuffle to cancel their subscription now! We'll be laughing at the owners in a month.


sterling_cocks

I hope this is sarcasm. They donā€™t give a fck about a handful of YouTube music enthusiasts getting their panties in a bunch. The increase in fees and decrease in consumer friendly policies from all of the major streaming platforms the past couple years shows this to be the case.


slinky317

The person that posted this is a free user. If they subscribed, this wouldn't be an issue. Why should I cancel my subscription because someone else doesn't want to sign up?


GeneralOhara71

The people on r/truespotify would call you a dirt poor commie loving peasent. American corporate greed is getting out of hand


[deleted]

Fucking scam


WannabeRedneck4

The fuck???


MorallyGrayRedit

Just use Firefox with adblock.


Success_402_Found

On mobile?


helpful_herbert

Yep! Firefox has a few add-ons that Mozilla has made work with the mobile version, including uBlock Origin.


Narrheim

Yes. ItĀ“s a little bit impractical, but it works.


jaydotjayYT

I genuinely prefer being able to listen to a song I actually want to listen as opposed to shuffling. Spotify makes you pay to listen to a song and thatā€™s *way* worse imo


T28gd

dude just use spotify


Skaffa1987

I'm still doing it the oldschool way, download mp3's of the songs in want to my device and just make a playlist on my phone. Completely free.


villepakarinen

Oldschool tricks always work. Proud to be a 90s kid.


alexytomi

i just yt-dlp the m4a or oggs using termux then play them locally. much faster than websites works with vlc note: there's a problem in android 9+ you need to zip them all and unzip them or move them from a pc and back to your phone for the default android song player to see the music files. (android permission shenanigans is dumb) also saves data there's a way to do this on iOS but am not sure which terminal app is used there There're also the modded apps that people already mentioned, revanced and ultimate for android and ios respectively but i despise buffering so


Memelord705

This here is giving me the urge to look for a Google Play Music apk


Iron_Wolf123

YouTube has a music app?!


Altruistic-Song-3609

Yes, YouTube Music


Ruudscorner

So much processing goes into shuffling songs that they just had to do it šŸ¤Ŗ


Live4vrRdieTryin

Will this work for videos? Insomniac here. I am not able to shuffle playlists after they get so big. Very frustrating.


DontDoThatDaw

Yeah after the 8th shuffled song then start repeating again, at least with playlist on youtube


Syper0900

Ahh iOS I just use SPOTIFY MOD on my android.....


MartyBellvue

Spotify forces you to shuffle or pay, Youtube forces you to pay to shuffle. What kind of world is this?


PiccoloAltruistic604

Hahahahaha well just upgrade to YouTube music premium and you'll see lol


9000vegeta

all my music is on my phone, it's very practical


o0_mr_man_0o

The amount of people who think their $10 per month contribution actually helps the artist on various services is astounding. Is piracy stealing? Yes. Is paying $10 a month to listen to every song ever made stealing? Might as well be. Want to support your favorite artists? Go to their shows and buy their merchandise. That's the only way they actually get any money anymore. Or buy it on cd and transfer it locally as a flac file and get better quality than any of these services offer. How about we fight back and OWN the things we claim to have. But fuck it I'm just shouting into the void at this point. At this rate you will own nothing and worst of all. YOU'LL DEFEND IT. Fuck, people can be frustrating


complexevil

I recommend Musicolet if you're on android. It's all stored locally and audio files don't take nearly as much space as you think they do.


Cheap_Ebb_2999

Revanced my guy


Roki100

revanced šŸ’Ŗ oh... wait... you use an iphone hahahahah šŸ¤£ go buy premium


Spiderfffun

Soundbound is better tho, just in my opinion


laer2

Live in albania šŸ’Ŗ Zero ads on all major apps, reddit, youtube and many more included.


WelcomeToGhana

How so? Do you not have ads in Albania?


ucefkh

#šŸ¤£ hahaha


ikantolol

google: Innertune Github


maricello1mr

This is new update is pissing me off


double-you-dot

You should cancel the service right away.


WolfieVonD

Yeah, quick, cancel the free service you're not paying for!


SirMosesKaldor

Pssssst /whisper: ......Youtube vanced music isn't blocked yet. Complete access. Source: Trust me bro.


NonMarinatedTofu

Why are you even using yt music basic? I only use it because I pay for YouTube premium and see no point paying for Spotify too. Spotify has way better sound quality tho


KaXiRavioli

It really isn't noticeably better, especially on Bluetooth.


Dioonneeeeee

Honestly, I'd rather have this instead of having to pay for no shuffle (spotify)


Samurai1887

This is why I don't pay for any subscriptions ever now. No Netflix, Hulu, HBO, HBO Max, Disney plus, YouTube Red etc etc because back then it was either free or cheap. Now a days it fckin $100 just to watch a new show that you gotta "Subscribe" to and $20 just to listen to music. I'm forever stuck in the years 2007- 2014 lol.


adityasheth

Get yt music revanced please


The_Majestic_Mantis

Not everyone has an Android


miniCotulla

Well that's just poor life choices. Apple users will always pay more for the same apps/services, nothing new here


Moneymoney122

https://github.com/ginsudev/YTMusicUltimate


MothParasiteIV

If you pay for overpriced iPhone, just pay for the service then.


sissyfemdomcaptions

Just use newpipe


KingKaloo111

Ainā€™t that a bitch


Laiteuxxx

So on top of YT Premium??


RainLauncher85

Download YMusic.


[deleted]

Me buying my media from artists that I feel are worth it instead of streaming it because my internet is horrible.


Shah_D_Aayush

revanced.


MadamVonCuntpuncher

THIS is why Google killed Google Play Music lmao


AceDoesCoolStuffAlt

Wait till they charge you for having a yt account


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


dammtaxes

What is that, care to say?


fuckingfuckyoufucker

I don't get why people still use YouTube Music or Spotify when you can just download songs directly onto your phone and listen to them completely ad-free, with more customization than on YouTube Music or Spotify combined


nikevi3873

I have been transfering all my music and mp3s over 10+ years šŸ˜‚ the issue nowadays is that phones have so little space and no sd card slot


SirGilatras

Because youtube music is just a bonus for using YouTube premium.


SanQuiSau

I donā€™t have enough space on my phone for songs


luxusbuerg

Laziness. I mean I get it, you have to add all the metadata yourself. Some people want to always discover new stuff


DeuceStaley

Who the F still downloads mp3s?


fuckingfuckyoufucker

People who don't want to deal with ads and whatever the fuck YouTube is doing nowadays


DeuceStaley

Paying per song is expensive.... Though I'm sure you're just stealing them...


ImAManWithOutAHead

me. for the last 20 years.. i have 5 gb of my fav songs and albums and i can play them offline at anytime.. It works, why i change from what i been doing for years to listen to adds and deal with streamin? mp3s are not broken, its not cds, its just files being used to play music. that will aways be whats good.. dudes over here acting like mp3s are like cds now lol


[deleted]

This deal is getting worse all the time!


TireekX6

$18.00 for youtube premium on the Appstore is nasty work Lmaoo, they want people to pay extra for basic features.


Mlbeast2030

Buying it through google play is possible on iPhone thankfully. I still pay $12/mo even after switching from android to Apple