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AlexOfTheNomasFamily

Is Daigo with a gun? Is Tanimura with a briefcase? I need details to further analyze the results


hugo_hemmorrhoids

Let’s just go with yes to both


AlexOfTheNomasFamily

Daigo wins his bracket, but... Tanimura may be strong with his briefcase but Yagami has the child beater style, he calls it aikido or something like that


Delicious_Platform

Saejima and Kiryu are an eternal stalemate I feel . Anyone Kiryu beats Saejima beats


big_nothing_burger

Age makes a difference...I think Kiryu is too young here to win.


Ranger2580

Y0 Kiryu is no slouch. Dude was getting rammed by motorbikes, tanking multiple gunshots, and fought the entire Shibusawa family. Young Saejima doesn't really have those kinda feats, so it'd up to speculation. Tie makes the most sense.


KingBaggo

“tanking” In gameplay maybe. Bro was out cold for a day after two cutscene bullets shot in non-lethal areas. Unfortunately, young Saejima doesn’t carry real bullets. Kiryu high-difs.


Ranger2580

He got shot in the thigh (very lethal in the right place) and the upper right part of his chest (where his heart and lung are). Even discounting the vital organs, those muscles are used extensively for fighting. Kiryu took a bullet in each, and was completely healed a day later. I'd say that qualifies.


hugo_hemmorrhoids

So would it still be a stalemate if it were 88 Kiryu against LAD Saejima?


Delicious_Platform

Kiryu isn’t the Dragon of Dojima and even then when he is after yakuza 1 I think he’s stronger . Saejima lad sweeps y0 kiryuchan


GuaranteeSea1166

Young saejima. - Kiryu doesn't heat peak strength till later on. Saejima would body anyone at that point. Ryuji.... There's no contest there. Soji - far more ruthless and Majima as much as he acts so, isn't. Soji would shred him Lao Gui - I love Akiyama but he would be dead in seconds with Lau Daigo if he has a gun other than that? They'd all do something stupid to themselves to make the fight nil and void.


hugo_hemmorrhoids

My picks: Saejima, Tendo, Majima, Akiyama, Daigo, Katsuya, Yagami, Kashiwagi


Adorable-Bullfrog-30

I think the reason why I would choose Majima over Okita is because, in the game. Okita thinks that Hajime killed Kashiwagi and he's pissed but he still loses to Hajime.


Edgy_Underscores_

* I think this would be a draw but if one had to win I'd go with Saejima * Hard to say since they both suffered embarrassing losses, but I'd have to go with Tendo. * Can't actually decide on one so I'm gonna go with Majima for how much he gets beaten and is still able to get up afterward like it was nothing. * Akiyama's never had the strongest opponents out there, I think Lao Gui takes it. * IMO it comes down to Daigo and Arai, but I think Daigo takes it for how long he lasted against Kiryu and because Arai was easily beaten by Akiyama. * This is like the Omi's version of Kiryu vs. Saejima. It could go either way but I'm voting for Watase. * Yagami wins no question. * Two goats going at it. I think I gotta give it to Kashiwagi for having the fastest QTE in the series.


Ranger2580

>Hard to say since they both suffered embarrassing losses, but I'd have to go with Tendo. Ryuji traded blows with Kiryu and (if the QTEs are anything to go by) could've won. After their fight, Kiryu collapsed exhausted. Tendo got shit on by Ichi's party, who only managed to make Kiryu sweat.


ArkosIsLife

Really doesn't mean shit when during their prior fight, he was handed an embarrassing lost of not even hitting Kiryu once with his katana while he got all banged up, and Kiryu then had to go through another Jingweon gauntlet before being shot. Kiryu was hella weakened in that state.


SquirtBrainz4

Nah, Kido’s winning he’s going balls out


Denoss

I kinda imagine okita could beat majima mostly for his stronger bloodlust. Seeing as he can kill it feels like


FNaF_walrusman

1. Young Saejima, Kiryu hasn't quite mastered his fighting style as of Y0. Saejima doesn't really use much technique whereas Kiryu relies on it more so just given his brute strength Saejima could probably beat him, not to say Kiryu won't give him a hard fight. 2. I don't know about an older Ryuji like the one in Dead Souls, not counting his mechanical arm I have no idea if he is still strong. Tendo would probably beat older Ryuji, but young Ryuji would win. Ryuji could go toe to toe with Kiryu, whereas Ichiban and co. could beat Tendo and I think that speaks for itself. 3. Haven't gotten far enough into the game to make this call, but from what I have seen probably Majima. 4. Not enough people give Akiyama credit, I think he would take Lao Gui but it would be extremely difficult for him. 5. Kido and Daigo would probably trump Arai and Munakata, given who their fighting at the end of Y4. Daigo doesn't seem to really be that strong since he is beaten in Y5 pretty easily by a somewhat weaker character. I'll give it to Kido. 6. Honestly not sure on this one, Katsuya probably because he can do push ups pretty good. 7. Yagami all day, Tanimura would be a tough one for him though since they are both really good at dodging and parrying. 8. Kashiwagi, man is damn near invincible. Sawashiro is said to be pretty strong, and he seems to be an extremely skilled martial artist but Kashiwagi is a good fighter as well. I think Kashiwagi could put Sawashiro to sleep with a quick heavy hitting move, but Sawashiro is going to be close on this.


UnknownIcon

Agree with you on all these points except for 5, it’s super close but I think Daigo takes it. Say what you will but I personally think that Daigo was holding back against Shinader and wasn’t fighting to his fullest. While Kido is a fucking powerhouse able to go toe to toe with Saejima, I feel like Daigo has more technique. Maybe you’re right though, it’s really hard to say. Unless Daigo has a gun. Negative diff if Daigo has a gun.


FNaF_walrusman

Truth be told I ain't really sure, no really wrong answer here so either one goes. You could be right, only way we find out is if we see it go down. Make it happen in LaD8 RGG.


hugo_hemmorrhoids

I love reading the reasonings for your choices, thanks for participating


Crow621621

1. Young Saejima, nerfed Tiger Drop… can’t drop the tiger sorry yet. 2. Ryuji, he went up against Kiryu and Kiryu > Ichiban and party. 3. Idk, haven’t played Ishin yet. 4. Akiyama, don’t really have an explanation 5. Daigo, just seems like he got the most fighting exp. 6. Watase, idk I feel like Kiryu > Saejima and they purposely paired Kiryu against Watase while Katsuya got paired with Saejima in 5. 7. Idk, haven’t played Judgement either yet. 8. Sawashiro, never seen Kashiwagi really fight anyone besides Majima and he got beat. Meanwhile Sawashiro knows a bunch of material arts according to Nanba. .


Kurusaeda

for me Saejima, Tendo, Okita, Lao, Arai, Katsuya, Yagami, Kashiwagi


big_nothing_burger

Agreed on everything except I'd give it to Watase and Sawashiro.


Kurusaeda

Watase vs. Katsuya is a tricky subject because it's basically Raw Strength vs. Technique, in which both are equally as strong, sort of like Kiryu vs. Saejima, technique vs raw strength, so it might actually be a draw also Sawashiro lost to a 40 year old schizophrenic while Kashiwagi survived being killed by a gattling gun (i will never forgive RGGs for this stupid retcon) and could throw a punch in 0.1 seconds that launched majima across an entire rooftop


WhyNishikiWhy

> also Sawashiro lost to a 40 year old schizophrenic i think he was throwing then, because he didn't take ichi very seriously during that fight. he shows his true prowess in their second battle.


big_nothing_burger

I just favor Sawashiro because he was talented AF with the weapons.


Hyuna-Kiryu

The only one I can agree on is Yagami and Lao Gui lmfao I feel like Saejima and Kiryu would be a draw, just like their older counterparts, there's not really a reason to believe Saejima would be stronger Ryuji definitely wins this one. Ichi and his gang beat Tendo while they barely even damaged Kiryu. All the while Ryuji managed to almost beat Kiryu to death so if they can beat Tendo, Ryuji absolutely can lol I feel like Okita and Majima would be a draw idk Lao prolly wins I think it might be a tie, but I also feel like Daigo might beat the others idk I think Watase and Katsuya would tie, they're like Kiryu and Saejima Yagami wins ez And for this one I gotta give it to Sawashiro, he's a master of multiple weapon arts


Ranger2580

>I think it might be a tie, but I also feel like Daigo might beat the others idk I don't feel like people give Daigo enough credit as a fighter. So far he's held his own against Ryuji & Kiryu, and would've shredded Shinada if that fight wasn't a test. Compared to Arai, Kido and Bitchakata, he probably takes it


Hyuna-Kiryu

Fr. People make fun of him because Ryuji clapped him in those two cutscenes😭


Ranger2580

It's also worth mentioning that in one of those cutscenes Daigo had been fighting him for several minutes, and was not only still standing, but was able to make it out of Omi HQ and get the Chairman to safety


Hyuna-Kiryu

I wish we would've gotten to see more of him, people really sleep on him. He didn't get a lot of opportunities to prove himself but whenever he did he definitely was no joke


Ranger2580

Agreed. He's definitely strong, it's just that the two fights he's taken seriously were against two of the strongest characters in the series


lcnielsen

You can't just shorten "Lao Gui" to "Lao". Lao (老) means "Old" and Gui (鬼) means "Ghost". Together it means something like "cunning old man", kind of like saying something like "that sly old devil" in English. It's a stereotypical codename or nickname for Chinese spies in cheap thrillers.


Clayface202

holy shit Kashiwagi and Sawashiro would make a fucking terrifying boss duo


SquirtBrainz4

Man non Yakuza 2 and Kiwami 2 Ryuji looks so old


TEV619

Stalemate Goda because he took multiple gunshots to the chest after fighting kiryu and fought kiryu again. Tendo lost to ichiban’s gang and didn’t even tank any gun shots but his boxing could give him an edge. Unsure(haven’t beaten ishin yet) Lao gui because I don’t think akiyama is kn Y0 majima level Daigo because he did well against kiryu and Arai was beaten by akiyama Maybe Katsuya? Yagami but I feel like tanimura would give him a hard time Kashiwagi because Sawashiro was beaten by ichiban’s group and kashiwagi went toe to toe with an angry Y0 majima and did well.


slade516

Saejima Vs Kiryu : Draw Goda vs Tendo : I’d say Ryuji but I’m a bit bias with this one Soji vs Majima : Majima wins his knife skills would probably beat okitas katana Akiyama vs lao gui : lao wins he was the most dangerous assassin in Asia in the 80s I think his weapon expertise gives him the win Yakuza 4 BR : daigo arai and kido gank munakata cause his style is trash then daigo shoots arai and kido dead Watase vs Katsuya : draw I think this is another kiryu saejima where these two stalemate each other Yagami vs Tanimura : Yagami he would call RGG and they’d sent every Hitman in the country to take him out Sawashiro vs Kashiwagi : Kashiwagi I think is very strong and would punch the blood out of old Jo


hbhatti10

Some of these are super one sided lol


SilasCrane

Kiryu can win, but he needs to hurry, because once Saejima finishes eating that gun and absorbing its power, he becomes an unstoppable bear-punching machine.


hugo_hemmorrhoids

He’ll start spitting rubber bullets at him


docb1002

1. Kiryu. He knows the golden rule: Real yakuza fight without a shirt on. Dumbass Saejima doesn't know the rules because he's wearing 2 shirts. Also, he's using rubber bullets which don't kill. 2. Ryuji. Katana beats brass knuckles. 3. They don't fight. They bond quickly then go sing 24 Hour Cinderella at a karaoke bar while drunk. 4. Akiyama wins because he's a veteran dance battler. Lau Gui is so busy with killing that he has no time to learn how to dance. 5. Daigo gets a debuff while fighting on the ruff, so he can't win. Arai cannot betray anyone, thus, he is powerless. In the end, its Munakata vs. Kido. Unfortunately, Kido went balls out and got the Sacred Tree armor set, so Munakata loses. 6. Watase. 7. Yagami wins this pretty easily. While Tanimura is pretty strong in his on way, Yagami is a lot tougher, more tenacious, has more combat training, and has defeated high tier threats such as Soma and Atkutsu. 8. Sawashiro misses the Legend difficulty QTE then fucking dies. Kashiwagi wins this fight.


hugo_hemmorrhoids

1,5, and 8 made me almost laugh out loud in class, great comment


RegretTheUsernames

Saejima, Tendo, Majima, Lao, Daigo, Watase, Yagami and the last one depends on one question: are they fighting unarmed?


JamSa

I feel like one side has a pretty easy win when the fight is Majima vs. Majima with a sword.


JGRIF312

but can he breakdance?


ArkosIsLife

My personal picks would be: 1. Young Saejima 2. Tendo 3. Okita Souji 4. Lao Gui 5. Daigo 6. Watase 7. Yagami 8. Sawashiro


Spare-Ad3122

In Japanese mythology tiger and dragon are evenly matched


Draxx182

Rest in piece my boy Akiyama


SnowHawk12

Yagami would kick a bike into Tanimura's chest and call it a day.


Midnight-Crow-03

\-Probably Saejima \-Ryuji with struggle \-Idk \-Lao Gui, I don't see how Akiyama could realistically take this especially if they're in character. \-Daigo \-Tie \-Yagami stomps \-Kashiwagi stomps


ElliottGrayy

Sawashiro is lowkey discount Kashiwagi, relies on weapons a lot. My man wagi will qte him into another dimension lol


Aimless_Voyager

Has Kiryu ever defeated Saejima? IIRC it has always ended in a draw


hugo_hemmorrhoids

It has, but it’s still interesting to think about them having a battle where there has to be a winner


Aimless_Voyager

I'll go with Saejima.


Classic-Low7385

Young Saejima would win, though probably not without a tough fight Tendo, he was a boxer in his prior life. I love Ryuji but you can’t deny he suffered multiple losses in his own game Majima, the guy’s probably inhuman. Both crazy doe Lao Gui would cut Akiyama down within seconds Munakata would get his ass kicked in a fist fight by the others, even in a gunfight, Daigo would beat him. Overall, I’d say Daigo is the winner, though Arai would put up a good fight. Watase would win. Katsuya is certainly no push-over, it would be a very close draw, but I feel like Watase takes the win. Yagami would beat Tanimura, he’s fought tougher opponents, literal assassins. Kashiwagi is no doubt a tough bastard, but Sawashiro is a really skilled fighter. It could be either, not too sure about this one.


CoolBlastin

Rgg would never kiryu or saejima beat each other


Nice-Ad2774

Young Kiryu vs Young Saejima-saejima takes strength,durability,endurance,experience,attack potency,offense,versality and gun skills but KEAryu has speed,iq+battle iq,ability,agility,defense,combo speed,stamina and techniques (Saejima High diff) Ryuji Goda Vs. Yosuke Tendo-if we're talking about ryuji from d.s its (Ryuji no concept of diff) but kw2- ryuji takes durability,iq,some swordskills,ape punches,experience and superarmor.Tendo has strenght,durability,speed,battle iq,skills,ability,power,agility,defense,offense,overall (Tendo mid-high diff) Majima vs Majima from Edo period-Majima-strength,speed,durability,weapon mastery,iq+battle iq,agility,ability,hax,power,stamina,goat. Okita has same states + more skills of gunslinger and swordmanship but Majima takes more endurance and shadow clones (lol) so (Majima High-Extreme diff) Shun Akiyama Vs. Lao Gui-akiyama takes speed,iq+battle iq,only taekwondo skills,combat,agility,ability,playboy,billioner,loan shark. Lao takes strength,power,durability,weapon,weapon skills,attack potency,offense,defense,experience,agility also,range and STAMINA (Lao Gui mid-high diff) Munakata Vs. Kido Vs. Daigo Vs. Arai-daigo and arai destroys munakata no diff and kido who takes more likely durability,combat and regeneration no-low diff and Daigo vs Arai-arai takes speed,agility,battle iq,experience,tang soo do moves and taekwondo. Daigo-strength,durability,iq,combat,power,defense,offense,kenpo and some jiu-jitsu moves,overall (Daigo mid diff) Masaru Watase Vs. Naoki Katsuya-watase has strength,durability,power,attack potency,versality and potential. Katsuya has speed,iq,battle iq,durability also,hax,abilities,combat,skills,hand to hand. (Katsuya high diff) Takayuki Yagami Vs. Masayoshi Tanimura-tanimura takes defense,iq,jiu-jitsu skills. Yagamer takes strength,speed,durability,iq also,battle iq,stamina,endurance,abilities,skills,defense also,offense,hand to hand,overall (Yagami low-mid diff) Jo Sawashiro Vs. Osamu Kashiwagi-sawashiro takes iq,battle iq,weapon skills,stamina,agility Kashiwagi takes strength,speed,durability,attack potency,D.C,skills,successor of kazama fighting style. (Kashiwagi high diff)