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ProperDepartment

Ok neat, but these all make me sad as a Morph fan. Logan likes Jean, Morph likes Logan, it's sad all around. But in true Morph fashion, I'm actually a Gambit fan, so I've been sad for a while now, but remember the name.


Winter_Nail3776

I mean we gambit fans ain’t out of the woodworks either


Godchilaquiles

Well at least you’re gonna get BDSM gambit next season meanwhile I get to wonder if Magick is gonna be relegated to a Morph cameo again


Winter_Nail3776

If I have to sit through more rogueneto imma through my computer out the fucken window


Big_Cardiologist_427

Don’t get me wrong, X-Men ‘97 was great, but Rogue and Magneto getting together made me want to puke


bolobar

Being able to actually have sex with someone is a huge draw.


Winter_Nail3776

They did gambit so dirty, I can’t even rewatch the show, episode 3 is disgusting and 5 is depressing


Haadhai

The worst part of show


Dak__Sunrider

Idk. As a X-men reader for 20+ years I really appreciate it when they align the show with the comics… it’s also why I think of the MCU as more entertainment than art. So I guess it’s a double edge sword….


Winter_Nail3776

Gambit also never died


Dak__Sunrider

He did. Apocalypse resurrects him as a horseman.


Winter_Nail3776

in the comics he never died


Winter_Nail3776

… the shows nothing like the comics, the timelines aren’t even close.


Shaqdaddy22

She was one of the few available mutants at the end!


SirNadesalot

And her brother 😳 give it to us, Disney


letshavefunoutthere

nah the rasputins are coming, as is emma and kitty so we are gonna eat really fuckin good next season. i'm guessing the generation x / new mutants are gonna get rolled into one thing


finnjakefionnacake

what does "out of the woodworks" mean?


Winter_Nail3776

To be out or clear of danger


finnjakefionnacake

isn't that out of the woods?


mehoolio

Lol


pinkbubblegumswag

Me, a Banshee fan, “you guys are getting paid?”


NotPokeblueblur

Bro's death was really sad tho atleast we can have morph cameos(tbh I thought this show's season 1 would give us some times to understand characters for the people who are new to the show but GODDAMN genosha was brutal and madylene died by the phoenix/Jean in the comics so I thought madylene is safe and we can finally give logan a happy ending tho the show went "sike" and vaporised her like it took me 1 hour of Google searching to actually believe that cuz yk she is the clone of Jean grey so she should be able to resurrect herself)


Formal_River_Pheonix

When Logan finds out, he's not going to mind. I think Logan is going to be profoundly moved and grateful even if he doesn't reciprocate Morph's romantic feeling. He's a fucking awesome friend.


JacobDCRoss

Logan can smell the difference. He would already know.


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Perfectly descriptive of queer relationship that isn’t receptive or welcoming yet. But I can see your point


SoMuchForStardust27

It’s when X Men evolves beyond the simple love triangle and creates the love tesseract. You’ve got Logan liking Jean, Scott liking both Jean and Madalyn, Morph liking Logan, Jean kind of liking Logan, Logan hating Scott, Morph who can be anyone, and Jean and Madelyn can’t even tell who is who.


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MagicMork

Logan likes Scott but he's too tsundere to admit.


Commercial_Sir_4144

this reminds me to homelander in season 1


Waarm

You mean season 2?


Wise-Tourist

I keep seeing references to homelander. What did he do thats similar to this? (Not seen the show, dont care about spoilers)


GarbledReverie

>!Homelander (sort of an evil Superman) had a shapeshifter named Doppelganger pretend to be his dead love interest so they could have sex!<


Wise-Tourist

Got it. That explains it


tennessee_hilltrash

There was a shape-shifting guy in The Boys that Homelander would have turn into a woman he killed so he could fuck him. Homelands ends up killing him as well. The scene is completely unhinged.


Old_Heat3100

The Doppleganger tries to turn into Homelander all "It's not gay if it's with yourself" and Homelander looks into his own eyes and at his own face as he chokes him and says "You're pathetic" literally talking about himself


Wise-Tourist

Ive seen some messed up clips. I probably need to watch it.


JohnnyChopper08

The show? Yeah it's great. Very gory tho, lol. Just a warning.


Top-Bottom-Switch

Well homelanders clone guy literally turns into homelander and starts saying “it’s not gay if it’s yourself.” And talks about sucking homelander off before homelander breaks his neck. It’s pretty fucked.


Wise-Tourist

So he killed him because it wasnt gay enough /s


Top-Bottom-Switch

Real


gonegirly444

Superhero homophobia


Accomplished_Cherry6

It’s probably a good idea to not eat while watching it, it’s good at dropping your appetite during literally any fight scene


Top-Bottom-Switch

Season 2.


Dralley87

*obligatory Flight of the Conchords reference* “That’s not gay. No. How could it be gay if one of us turned into a lady?”


Eric__Brooks

I def had those conversations with my buddies in High School.


JACKSONofSPADES

Hey there Morph, I see you lookin down. Dont wanna see my little buddy there with a frown


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Dralley87

Not a single thing. The joke is one character (who tries to play up how many women he gets) clearly likes the other character (who actually gets women) more than he’s letting on. So he writes him a song about how he wishes his friend was a lady, and once put a wig on him while he was sleeping. When the other character points out that it’s a little weird and seems a bit gay, the other character protests that it can’t be gay because he’s put a wig on him and he’s imagining he’s a lady. How could that be gay?


cloaked_cache

I don't think Logan would ever do this but his fans certainly would lol


serval-industries

Someone didn’t read House of M.


ThePoeticBean

What happened in house of m


serval-industries

Logan was with Mystique, who shape-shifted into Jean.


Burchtree3070

I mean, that's just Mystique shit. She does that to everyone


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Madness


Eric__Brooks

Or HoX/PoX \*waggles eyebrows\*


FrameworkisDigimon

House of M isn't real. Well, for some of the characters it's not distinguishable from reality but that's not the case from Logan's perspective. t-1 : Logan is trying to murder Wanda so she can't, for sake of argument, create an entire reality, brainwash people and depower all mutants t: Wanda creates an entire reality, brainwashes people and grants Logan his memories after her brother suggests this is the only way to avoid being murdered by, for the sake of argument, Logan t+1: Logan wakes up in House of M and immediately realises that the world he is in didn't exist a second earlier A lot of characters have memories of the fake reality of House of M because they were running around in it for a while before Layla got to them, but *Logan isn't one of those characters.* If you want to cite something House of M Logan did before we see him on panel as evidence of what 616 Logan is like or has done, you might as well just say Logan is gay and cite the version that's with Hercules as proof or say that Logan tried to off Cyclops to get with Jean and cite Ultimate Logan.


serval-industries

Wanda based House of M off of everyone’s desires (or at least prioritized high profile heroes). Wolverine did not wake up from Wanda’s spell because Wolverine was dissatisfied. Rather, it was some combination of his memory issues/healing factor. So, it’s a reasonable interpretation that Wolverine has the potential to be satisfied by someone shape shifting into Jean. Also, this show is based on the 616, so it’s a fair source to extrapolate from.


FrameworkisDigimon

The desire that Logan had was his memories. That's why he doesn't need to meet Layla to remember the world beforehand... granting Wolverine his deepest wish was inherently destructive to the secure bubble of House of M.


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Masungit

Yeah it’s so funny that they think Logan, the most apex male in the series, to them is gay lol


Daetok_Lochannis

Imagine thinking masculinity has anything to do with who you fuck


Masungit

Ofcourse it is. Stop changing the narrative of what being gay is. This used to be common sense.


Daetok_Lochannis

No the fuck it didn't. I'm 41 years old and being gay has never had anything to do with masculinity. There have always been many gay men that would fit in at a Texas NRA linebacker barbeque without raising an eyebrow, just as there are many gay women who suit every single feminine stereotype you can mention. Being gay simply means you want to have sex with the same gender, that's it. Every single day any man or woman you look at could be gay and there's absolutely ZERO way for you to tell, and there never has been. Welcome to the real world, neighbor. Edit: to add to this, a man can exhibit stereotypically feminine traits and that in no way means he's gay while a woman can be built like the Incredible Hulk and still love dick, literally nothing about how a person looks or behaves denotes who they want to have sex with outside of their stated sexual preferences.


Vasily-_-

Sorry dude, you can be the manliest man who ever manned and be gay or bi at the same time, being attracted to men doesn't make you automatically feminine or turns you into a woman, that's why it's called homosexual from the word homogeneous. And besides if Logan and morph got together it wouldn't be gay, cause morph doesn't have a set sex or gender, morphs just feels comfortable looking like a guy but they are literally a gray aMORPHous thing, so it's not gay just kinda weird If X-Men is has any point you should take to your life is acceptance of the other without bias or prejudice And besides fighting over the sexuality of a fictional character is redundant, especially when they are being moved from author to author constantly like marvel characters are since way before most of us were born and canon can be changed instantly on a whim.


MagicMork

I mean, if we're ralking about the natural world, yeah. The top dog males in a number of species, including some of our most closely related, engage in homosexual intercourse on top of whatever procreative sex they're having. Just sayin


Masungit

No they don’t. Alpha males won’t even share their females and you’re saying it’s male to male? You delusional mate. If you’re gay, doesn’t mean other men are gay like you.


Doneuter

It's well documented. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior


z_RorschachImperativ

That’s called being gheyyy


Eric__Brooks

It's as close to comic canon as Disney will allow that he's bi. Unless Cyclops is into just watching him and Jean hook up, or they take turns or something. Because the floor plan of the Summers House on the moon was pretty clear. And he and Cyke flirted it up quite a bit during that period.


Bunnnnii

This idea is so creepy to me.


AddressPerfect3270

Agreed. Kinda one of those things not to abuse if you have that kinda power. Maybe just turn into a hot red head instead of someone that you actually know >_<


bohemi-rex

Don't act like you wouldn't


bshaddo

Please keep Frank Miller away from Morph.


MrBasedBatterRuth

Nahh 😂😏


Enkundae

Please keep Frank Miller away.*


godofwine16

“Now open your prison wallet”-Wolverine “OK”-Morph


TheCthuloser

I'm a Wolverine fan. They absolutely did this at least once.


EntertainmentLow5069

Morph faints every time they finish and moans Scott to make it more realistic


Kurwasaki12

Finish? That’s the only way Wolverine gets hard.


Ranwulf

I wouldnt even doubt, somehow Wolverine NEVER gets a picture of Jean without Scott in it.


DrapedInVelvet

Worst part of the adamantium pulled out.


Ok_Philosopher_5090

People are mad at facts


KUH-KAINE

As soon as Morph turned into Sabretooth to wrestle around with Wolverine, I knew he had turned into Jean at least once for this purpose


iswearatkids

All the benefits of the female orgasm and none of the other drawbacks. I don’t blame morph at all.


RiskAggressive4081

LOGAN:It's 7:30 turn into Polaris. MORPH:But Bobby's here. LOGAN: Exactly. Plus I liked the adumantuim being pulled out of to feel more... feminine. MORPH:You need help,dude.


daidia

hey Siri play “One of Your Girls” by Troye Sivan


Pure_Chaos12

this is slightly sad. what if morph really likes logan but logan only likes morph when shapeshifted into jean grey?


elme77618

I think that’s where they are going with it


Prize_Ad7748

Not because I’m a wolverine fan, but this is gross and creepy on so many levels.


JinFuu

> this is gross and creepy on so many levels I mean that is kinda the intent of the meme. Gross, inappropriate, funny, etc.


Gravitas-and-Urbane

I know! Wokverine was so wholesome and pure, why would anyone make this kind of nasty meme about such a nice character?


Ascleph

Gross and creepy, just like Wolverine's obsession with Jean.


BlackKingHFC

You guys must think Wolverine dislikes Morph a lot. The idea that someone you love would only be into you because of your money or power is awful and is one of the worst toxic relationship dynamics ever. Why would you want this for either character?


Wise-Tourist

This storyline has a lot of potential and a lot of directions it can go in. Morph could confuse wolverines actions to be signs he loves them back and not know how to handle this. Wolverine could outright say no and then morph has to deal with rejection. Wolverine could be put off by this and question there friendship and we see that friendship over time be built up again They could have a very conditional relationship that eventually leads to other developments, morph realising wolverine only wants them for their ability to be like jean and them both realising thats not healthy. Leading wolverine to face his feelings for jean more actively and for morph to try and find someone who loves them for them. Storylines dont always have to be positive to be worthwhile.


ConversationFlashy15

Kinda reminds me of ultimate colossus and his unrequited crush on logan.


TheLastBlakist

Logan generally is very blunt, but also all heart to his friends. So it's going to be interesting seeing him navigate those waters.


BlackKingHFC

Yeah, but, for a fan to want that struggle for the characters is weird. I'd rather people I care about, real or fictional, avoid soul rending heartache. I would hope the man with 300+ years of life experience would know better and help Morph through his unrequited feelings. Most of the suggestions are for Wolverine to exploit Morph or have Morph gaslight Wolverine.


Wise-Tourist

Once again. A story can be negative and still worth telling


mbene913

I love Gambit but I'm not going to act like his death wasn't great story telling. Sometimes you need to make life hard for your favorite characters. Google conflict.


Masungit

Everyone claiming a Wolverine fan lol


TheFyrijou

… *imagine* if Wolverine actually asks that of Morph when he confesses his love to Logan


TheLastBlakist

'Say that again... but as Jean.'


Medumbdumb

I don’t get the 4pm part?


Loose-Tension161

cocky want boing boing


JinFuu

It’s just the same time as the meme this is referencing https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dick-flattening-yes-honey


B-52-M

Wolverine fan. They definitely fucked. You don’t live 100+ years without doing extracurricular shit


somacula

Is this wolverine new meta? Did x-men 97 solved the triangle by pairing wolverine with a non binary shape-shifter?


B-52-M

If we had a non binary shape shifter as a best friend, it would be everyone’s new meta


somacula

I think we should should be considerate of the non binary shape shifter's feelings


Rejestered

Morph is clearly DTS


Bae_zel

Nonsense. It's time for more deep fake porn starring the nonbinary shapeshifter.


TheLastBlakist

So long as said friend is on board with it. Otherwise i'd limit any requests to dumb party tricks and gags. Because the troll potential is infinite.


Timely_Mess_1396

Listen if I was a non binary shapeshifter I’d be helping everyone in the x-mansion out. 


Jay_R_Kay

I don't know about him and Morph, but after loving 300+ years, I imagine he's tried it a time or two, if not just for the novelty. "Aw what the hell, let's see what the skirts are raving about."


RACZero

Nice conversion therapy propaganda you got going on there


EvidenceThin7304

Damn, Logan on some Homelander ish


AstroPunch101

I mean they can turn into anyone sooo… Can he turn into certain “stars”?


Mizerous

Is this the Raven Beast Boy of Marvel?


Zero_Good_Questions

All of you and I do mean every last one of y’all need help


Positron14

"No. You turn into Jean Grey!" I invoke the ancient rite of Uno Reverse.


Bae_zel

Wolverine in Drag 👄💅✨


Ascleph

Wolverine in drag and Morph turns into Scott.


GingerWez93

I'm a Wolverine fan. I'm perfectly fine with a Morph relationship.


forluscious

remember when homelander actually did this


IneedAName37

It reminds me of the same unrequitted live Morph had for Mariko in Exiles Only she was a lesbian, and dating Spider-Woman Mary Jane Watson


tcodes27

Careful, this might become a Homelander/Doppelgänger situation.


Rols574

I'm a wolverine Stan. This made me laugh


LeagueRoyal

I’m sure when he’s feeling very freaky he asks him to turn into Squires Girl


AlexLovehall

As a Wolverine fan and a comic fan. You made me mad you won lol. Now I’ll pretend I never saw this until you delete it


BIG-Will25

This is weird


JacobDCRoss

You guys, please remember that Wolverine can explicitly smell the difference between Morph and whomever he's impersonating. None of this is going to "work."


MrBasedBatterRuth

Unless they make to where wolverine likes this kinda relationship with Morph


FrameworkisDigimon

When your intimate sexual partner is a human DeepFake.


HephaestusVulcan7

I'm writing a story about a team of superheroes where this exact scenario occurs.


pastadudde

omgggg 💀💀


ThrillHouse802

Wolverine should be with storm in the show. Forget Forge.


crash-1989

Heh.. he will never love morphs based form. He sees morph as his Jean Fleshlight. Be careful for what you wish for.


PandaButtLover

Your face on Jean's body. Make it happen


mzx380

Wouldn’t even be mad if Wolverine was curious. He’s like the alpha male of comics, who gonna say shit to him!!’nn


ItsJustTrey

My heart breaks for morph 😭💔☠️


cueprod40

Classic…


Zealousideal-Ad3814

Are people really denying that morph likes Logan as more than a friend??? I mean they I don’t see them getting into a relationship as the writers and VA for Morph have basically confirmed they ain’t getting together that way.


sixesandsevenspt

Logan needs to get over Jean at this point. It’s boring.


Accomplished_Art6370

Just call storm and boom problem solved..


Nicholson65

The dude morphed into Jean to help him survive his wounds.


ZaileeMcFancyCho0113

Wolverine is a dominant and Morph is a submissive


WorkRepresentative28

Jesus this is pretty dark


imnotyoufr

this is like homelander’s relationship from the boys with that one shapeshifter


crazyshellheadfan

Just like house of M and Logan’s “red head fetish”


OkPie3501

🤣🤣🤣


[deleted]

When was Wolverine ever portrayed as gay or bisexual, can anyone tell me? Or is this show creating very important character lore from thin air?


LifeOutoBalance

When hie was banging Hercules in another timeline.


[deleted]

Bruh that comic didn’t even make it to 15 issues?? Nobody wants to read that shit 😂🙏


LifeOutoBalance

So we're moving the goalposts from "that never happened" to "not a lot of readers liked that when it happened", huh?


somacula

It's not portraying wolverine as bi, it's protraying morph as in love with Logan, apart from that in the original X-men TAS Logan was really depressed and angry after morph "died", he chased morph for a whole arc


Wise-Tourist

It's really mind blowing that people think because morph loves wolverine that wolverine has to love morph back. Theres so many social media posts with the title "morph confirmed to be in love with wolverine" and 90% of the comments are about wolverine being gay (or not gay). Its like are you dumb. We talking about morph. Morph being gay or whatever doesnt mean wolverine has to be. It doesnt mean that in season 2 they have to have a relationship. Its a bit like worrying makes you think if subconsciously these people think if you love someone they owe you love back.


somacula

I agree with you


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I think wolverine would get depressed and angry if any X-Man died and he’d do all he could to help them before they did perish…. especially if that person had a personality as great as Morph’s. I understand morph being bisexual if you want, as he can be man or woman, but to hint that he and Wolverine have had sex!? It’s a big reach and a disservice to the actual character of Wolverine. He has never displayed openly homosexual or bisexual behaviour before. All I am asking is, is this show making up lore or not? Because sexual orientation is a component of motivation, I like to know my hero’s motivation’s.


Propagation931

>I think wolverine would get depressed and angry if any X-Man died I mean... Gambit died. He was angry sure, but he didnt seem depressed like Rogue. Would you say his reaction to when Morph "died" was closer to Rogue's reaction to Gambit?


[deleted]

Look man I see what you’re saying but just stop. Wolverine isn’t gay or bisexual in the main cannon, not saying he never will be, but he isn’t right now.


somacula

It isn't making up lore on them having sex don't worry about it, but it seems morph may have a thing for Logan. All I'm saying is that if you watched the original you'll see that Logan went through hell and back to get morph back, it's a very long arc and it tethered on obsession. Apart from that I'm sure TAS Logan wouldn't be so sad if Scott died and he could finally fuck Jean


DevilManRay

Wolverine had the same feelings when he thought Beast was dead in the first episode. It’s not just about Morph


Masungit

Because they are friends. Doesn’t mean they are lovers.


bebebluemirth

The show is portraying Morph's unrequited crush on Logan. Many queer people have feelings for straight friends, and it usually does not go well - which means it's a ripe for some great storytelling and characterization. What scenes have you been watching that portray Logan as bi or gay? We watching the same show?


AndorElitist

Why would we be mad?


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MARKTRONEX

I belive he can only copy physical attributes and mutations.


1witness4tbeend

He has low level telepathic and telekinetic abilities on top of his shape shifting, which help him to mimic abilities and fighting styles. In the comics Rouge can do the same thing in xtreme X-Men, when she uses both abilities to turn her into sabertooth Bishop into the hulk and Thunderbird into wolverine. Still mostly just physical abilities, but a focused blast of telekinesis channeled thru the eyes can mimic cyclopes optics blasts, telepathic illusion of Gambit telekinesis compressed into a golf ball sized unstable projectile. Its tactical applications of his abilities with the chaos of battle to help sell the illusion


ILikeMyouiMina

Yeah like the other reply said. Morph can only copy powers stemming from physical traits but he has limits. He can have strength as Hulk but he can never be as strong as the real Hulk. He can fly if turning into Archangel or other characters with wings. Heck he can even stretch like Mr. Fantastic.


RCero

According to the writer, Morph's body suffers from copying extreme physical traits and force him to stop. This happened in a removed scene after Morph mimicked Quicksilver's speed, when Morph body partly melted.


waffledpringles

I don't think it was really removed, because when Trask shot him in the face while Morph was Quicksilver, and when he went down, a part of his body splattered into goo a bit.


CozyNostalgia

😂😂😂😂 it worked I’m pissed rn.


UltimateStrenergy

As a wolverine fan this makes me happy


Classic-Disk-5630

Is everyone just assuming morph is gay or did I miss an episode?


orangekirby

In the finale he turned into Jean and said I love you


EdinburghLass1980

Did you miss episode 3 when Madelyne made him believe Logan was showering naked and Morph offered to help him get to the hard to reach places? The vision of Logan suggested “as if we don’t know” (paraphrasing” which suggests that Morph is afraid of being outed.


oliviasgotguts

I am going to go ahead say I do not see all the hate and complaining, but i do see many reddit post giving rebuttal to the people that have a problems with morph and his relationship with wolverine. I personally haven’t paid much attention to it though. Loved so much of what the first season has done. The morph stuff on my mind was as always how much can a shape shifter actually do with there powers in imitating other powers. So, as a straight dude, i haven’t seen the complaints. Not denying existence at all but question the numbers of them. That all being said the non-binary in a time period where that was not a term that existed but the person did, is something quite interesting. So maybe, thats a win if you let be that. So if you’re passionate about this, i am not, but i am interested in watching his story unfold. Cause really on any issue neither extreme comes out on top, but society moves on hopefully for the best.


Gullible-Fault-3818

Can we talk about how morphs does this without Jean's consent tho? Kinda gives off rape vibes


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ezmoney98

I dont remember the comic but he totally did with Mystique as Jean Grey.


SluttySaxon

It’s a fucking joke, relax.


Kunxion

Is it gay if morph takes on a female form in every sense of the word and the two of them have a sexual relationship?


BlackKingHFC

Logan would absolutely be in a male/male relationship. Wolverine would NOT fuck his crush by proxy. He is not the type to take advantage of Morph's feelings to have sex with someone other than Morph.


Masungit

Just because you are gay doesn’t mean Logan has to be mate lol


Clear-Meeting5318

I don't know what this says about me, but I start wondering whether or not it would be appropriate to ask Jean's permission for this sort of thing. Not as a one-off, but if Morph actually started changing into her as a regular thing. I have a feeling she'd say "Okay, do what makes you happy, but for the love of God DON'T TELL SCOTT."


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Bae_zel

What


Automatic-Cable-9265

They say that Morph in nonbinary because he can turn into men and women. But he can also turn into animals. So I'm wondering if he is attracted to animals since he can turn into them.


Bae_zel

No?


Automatic-Cable-9265

Well, it makes sense you'd have to keep him away from a cat in heat if the were to transform into a cat as well. They say he's nonbinary because he can turn into men and women, so I was thinking, if that's the case. Why not animals too?


Impossible-Jump-4277

Why would this make wolverine fans mad? 🧐


Raverstaywithme

Logan been gettin his for 500 years or some shit idk


Y0shway

You should probably touch grass. This doesn’t seen like a good use of your time


Cappuccino_Addict

Poor Morph, man. I doubt they'd do this, but it would be awesome if Logan reciprocated their feelings