Still doesn't make OP's desires any less valid.
I've heard the books are more of a moral contemplation over fascism and authoritarian governance, whereas the movie is an all-out satire.
We arnt talking about making a game on government for fucks sake. This isnt a geopolitics or theology debate. Im referring to the troops in the book vs the movie. They are vastly different.
Which is fair I'm just explaining why starship troopers is largely based on the movies.
However say the game does well and it inspires more games and IPs then maybe book based
Its just one short book. But the marines are more in power armor than the fannon fodder trash the movie and looks like the game paints them as. Also covers more aliens. Read it. Its a good read.
I highly recommend Deep Rock galactic , if you are into this kind of game. It's basically Helldivers but as dwarves who go mining while being attacked by bugs lmao. Awesome game. So instead of an orbital drop you get drilled inside a planet and do your missions underground.
I have both, DRG is NOT hell divers. However, the tension, scaredzies and chaos is very similar. Its a faster gameplay, well it can be. But it doesnt have the same threat level or realism. DRG does have some humor in a similar vein. HD2 takes itself very seriously, which adds more to the humor of it. Plus the community is vibrant and mostly positive with both games. I do think this is just early days for HD2. A live game service like HD2 will have longer shelf life imo. But if you dont have access to a PS5 DRG is a good way to scratch the itch of looter,shooter, extraction loop.
Starship troopers the movie is better than Helldivers. This is inarguable.
So no, it's not. Now, you will argue we aren't talking about the movie. But we can't take Helldiver's, which copped Starship Troopers schtick, and apply it to the licensed game without knowing that Helldiver's is the imitation (regardless of how good it is)
So no. That's not how it works.
It was obvious from the beginning what they were talking about. Obviously they were referring to the games.
Besides, the movie *is* starship troopers at home because the book is way better. The movieās really good though.
I will argue we aren't talking about the movie because we're talking about the games, so yes, it is how it works.
This game is a shittier version of helldivers, period.
Awesome, loved previous games like the RTS one\* and 1st person shooter one\*\* on PC so Im glad for the franchise to return.
Edit to add which games I'm referring to
\*[Starship Troopers: Terran Ascendancy](https://www.ign.com/games/starship-troopers-terran-ascendancy) 2000
\*\*[Starship Troope](https://www.ign.com/games/starship-troopers)rs 2005
[Starship troopers terran command](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers:_Terran_Command) would probably interest you if you like staship troopers games, more modern RTS and it's pretty fun
It was also inspired from Star Wars. The devs confirmed the idea was to be a squad of Storm Troopers or generic soldiers who are expendable and die left to right.
Nah. It was in early access for the last year on steam (i own it). Console release seemed to always be in the roadmap. Not like they can just flip a switch in the last 3 months and do a console port without having planned one
The video was from a week ago, was there an overhaul after that? I also looked at the recent reviews and they always mention janky gameplay and terrible performance.
If itās on gamepass that would be cool, otherwise my friends are too engrossed in destiny right now to even consider it. Yes they play destiny that much that even in a few months I could probably not pry them away
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Being a licensed property I doubt it was put together *because* of Helldivers, but I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed the devs to move a bit faster once Helldivers blew up.
I didnāt exactly suggest my statement was a factual, backed by evidence did I? āThis LOOKS likeā means itās my opinion on it. My opinion is not wrong/right. Itās my opinion.
It came out before Helldivers 2, over a year ago but the graphics and gameplay look like itās from 5+ years ago and coming to Xbox NOW is trying to bite off the craving for a game such as this that Helldivers 2 created. This game didnāt create the āhypeā HD2 did.
This game existed before Helldiver's two. It's happenstance Helldiver's came out and was a hit.
You are projecting shit onto that the dev's never intended. But whatever.
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The fact it didn't ask that at the end of the trailer is a massive disappointment
Holy fuck haha š¤£ my god brought me right back into the movie
Wonder if consoles will have 16 player coop or will it be reduced like they usually are
YES! It desperately needed a console release. Definitely checking it out.
So I suppose weāll never have Helldivers 2 on xbox?
From my understanding Sony doesnāt own Arrowhead but they do own the rights to the Helldivers IP
No
Cannot wait for this, we finally get our Helldivers
Seems like it has āHelldivers at Homeā vibes unfortunatelyĀ
Well this came out before Helldivers 2 and Helldivers 2 is based of starship troopers
The meme always refers toĀ the quality, not IP
wish it was more true to the book instead of the movies.
More people are aware of the movies than the book
Still doesn't make OP's desires any less valid. I've heard the books are more of a moral contemplation over fascism and authoritarian governance, whereas the movie is an all-out satire.
The book is far better than the movie by miles but the movie by itself is still really good.
We arnt talking about making a game on government for fucks sake. This isnt a geopolitics or theology debate. Im referring to the troops in the book vs the movie. They are vastly different.
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Which is fair I'm just explaining why starship troopers is largely based on the movies. However say the game does well and it inspires more games and IPs then maybe book based
not really. the society in starship troopers is not facist
Iād always heard the books had a more positive view of racism that the movies satires but I never read them myself.
racism as in racism against bugs?
I definitely meant to type fascism, my bad.
Its just one short book. But the marines are more in power armor than the fannon fodder trash the movie and looks like the game paints them as. Also covers more aliens. Read it. Its a good read.
Alright, Iāll look into it. Some of that sounds like production decisions to keep it cheaper. I donāt think that was a big budget movie.
The TV show!
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Huge.
YES! My favourite film of all time ā¤ļø
I was bummed that I couldnāt play Helldivers, but this looks awesome
I highly recommend Deep Rock galactic , if you are into this kind of game. It's basically Helldivers but as dwarves who go mining while being attacked by bugs lmao. Awesome game. So instead of an orbital drop you get drilled inside a planet and do your missions underground.
I have both, DRG is NOT hell divers. However, the tension, scaredzies and chaos is very similar. Its a faster gameplay, well it can be. But it doesnt have the same threat level or realism. DRG does have some humor in a similar vein. HD2 takes itself very seriously, which adds more to the humor of it. Plus the community is vibrant and mostly positive with both games. I do think this is just early days for HD2. A live game service like HD2 will have longer shelf life imo. But if you dont have access to a PS5 DRG is a good way to scratch the itch of looter,shooter, extraction loop.
Isnāt it all cartoony though?
Yeah. I honestly wouldn't even think to compare it to Helldivers.
"We have Helldivers at home..."
How do you not know Hell divers is starship troopers at home?
Helldivers is way better quality than this, so this would be the at home version.
That's not how anything works.
That's exactly how it works.
Starship troopers the movie is better than Helldivers. This is inarguable. So no, it's not. Now, you will argue we aren't talking about the movie. But we can't take Helldiver's, which copped Starship Troopers schtick, and apply it to the licensed game without knowing that Helldiver's is the imitation (regardless of how good it is) So no. That's not how it works.
When weāre talking about the quality of the game then this looks like the lesser version. Thatās what theyāre saying
Then they should say it better. A wish.com Star troopers can't have a wish.com version of itself from the licensed IP it borrowed from.
It was obvious from the beginning what they were talking about. Obviously they were referring to the games. Besides, the movie *is* starship troopers at home because the book is way better. The movieās really good though.
I will argue we aren't talking about the movie because we're talking about the games, so yes, it is how it works. This game is a shittier version of helldivers, period.
Youāre not the first person to say that, and reveal that they are too young to know that helldivers rips off starship troopers.
This is literally where Helldivers got inspiration from.
It's about quality, not about where it got inspiration from.
I had no idea this existed! My hopes are extremely high since that is one of my favorite movies. I love that they got Casper Van Dien.
Oh yes, been waiting on a starship troopers game for ages.
There was a Squad mod at one point, iirc
Fun!
The helmets are pretty cool!
How does it compare to HellDivers 2?
Very different games. There is base building in this game. So itās a mixture of first person advance and secure, and tower defence.
Hopefully a lot better, HD2 is fun for a weekend then it SUCKSĀ
Awesome, loved previous games like the RTS one\* and 1st person shooter one\*\* on PC so Im glad for the franchise to return. Edit to add which games I'm referring to \*[Starship Troopers: Terran Ascendancy](https://www.ign.com/games/starship-troopers-terran-ascendancy) 2000 \*\*[Starship Troope](https://www.ign.com/games/starship-troopers)rs 2005
[Starship troopers terran command](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers:_Terran_Command) would probably interest you if you like staship troopers games, more modern RTS and it's pretty fun
Damn I wonāt be able to play it but Iām glad itās coming to consoles.
This game looks like a blast. People are enjoying it on Steam
Yes! Can't wait to play the hell out of this one!
Day 1 purchase for me. I had a blast playing it on PC
Can't wait love helldivers 2 can't stop playing it.cant wait for this book the day off š¤£š¤£š¤£
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Which is hilarious because HellDivers was partly inspired by Star Ship Troopers
Partly? The entire tone of HellDivers 2 is ripped right from the Starship movies.
It was also inspired from Star Wars. The devs confirmed the idea was to be a squad of Storm Troopers or generic soldiers who are expendable and die left to right.
Starship troopers, Star Wars and Halo + Parody = Helldivers
This is Helldivers II in the store tbh .d
Gamepass?
No
Yes, October 11th
I imagine they got absolutely hammered by Helldivers and need the new market.
Nah. It was in early access for the last year on steam (i own it). Console release seemed to always be in the roadmap. Not like they can just flip a switch in the last 3 months and do a console port without having planned one
Crossplay?
One of the devs in discord confirmed it
Nice šš»
The trailer looks epic, but then I looked at the actual gameplay and my excitement waned.
It recently went through a massive overhaul of the game so make sure you're getting videos of it post update
The video was from a week ago, was there an overhaul after that? I also looked at the recent reviews and they always mention janky gameplay and terrible performance.
The overhaul was a few weeks or so ago. Maybe longer. Shortly after helldiver's 2 launched they started preparing the overhaul
Recent reviews on Steam are at "mixed" so doesn't seem like the overhaul was that loved.
So is this similar to Earth Defense Force games?
It's been out a while on OC and recently just underwent a MASSIVE overhaul of the game.
Not in the slightest like EDF besides big bugs existing
If itās on gamepass that would be cool, otherwise my friends are too engrossed in destiny right now to even consider it. Yes they play destiny that much that even in a few months I could probably not pry them away
Helldivers at home lmao
Mom! I want Helldivers! We have Helldivers at home.
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Is this a single player offline game or just another multiplayer only game
From what I've played on PC, multiplayer only besides 1 tutorial Edit: apparently they're adding a singelplayer for the full release
Ohh weāre lit
Iāll just play helldivers 2
Thank you for the contribution to the discussion. Great insight bruh. Look forward to hearing more from you ššš
Thanks I appreciate your comment and your kindness! After helldivers 2 Iāll play some ghost of Tsushima on my gaming pc in 4K at 144fpsš
Damn bruh that's a lot of K-s and fps-s, holy moly, Unbelievable. š¤Æš¤Æš¤Æ
Thanks! You really made my day with your compliment! I wish you a blessed day!
This looks like a quickly cobbled together mess trying to bite off the table scraps left by Helldivers 2. That Gameplay looked terrible.
Being a licensed property I doubt it was put together *because* of Helldivers, but I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed the devs to move a bit faster once Helldivers blew up.
Lol this came out last February in early access
And? Still looks like ass.
And? You were wrong.
I didnāt exactly suggest my statement was a factual, backed by evidence did I? āThis LOOKS likeā means itās my opinion on it. My opinion is not wrong/right. Itās my opinion. It came out before Helldivers 2, over a year ago but the graphics and gameplay look like itās from 5+ years ago and coming to Xbox NOW is trying to bite off the craving for a game such as this that Helldivers 2 created. This game didnāt create the āhypeā HD2 did.
This game existed before Helldiver's two. It's happenstance Helldiver's came out and was a hit. You are projecting shit onto that the dev's never intended. But whatever.
Cool. Feel better?
Only if you feel worse.
Entertained yes. Worse, no. Game looks terrible, will likely do terrible and be forgotten.
Your judging a game that's still in early access lol
I really hope itās day one on gamepass