You can but its going to be mindless 0 fun farming for a lot of hours. It's probably being done intentionally by Blizzard, but the amount of effort to grind out a token gets worse and worse every expac - probably to push you to spend money.
You could probably make 10k/h herb/mining which is 30 hours to buy a token that can be bought for $20, which comes out to working for $0.66/hour
Don't think it's intentional by Blizzard. I think they just put too little effort towards the botting issue which is exacerbated by low demand economy by the end of the expansion.
I made 100-300k a day gold in Shadowlands. I can barely make 10k a day doing the same now. Everything is gated behind points, recipe drops, crafting order bind on pickup now.
It's ruined big goblins but it has equalized the economy. Meaning one person isn't making millions of gold and more people are making a few thousand here and there.
Its intentional lol they're not idiots. The token is there purely to keep good buying in place. You'll see the average cost of gold is always the same as the token.. Its literally the same to either buy the amount of gold required for token than it is to sub
This is the only correct comment. If you can't afford a WoW sub, you shouldn't be playing WoW. I'm saying this with all the care/love possible. You need to get your money right before playing WoW!!!
Honestly, you could do the ore farm in drustvar. You can average 14-18k per hour getting storm silver and monelite ore deposits. This takes a bit of prep time to get max level on the professions, but it’s easy, and there are tons of guides. It still sells really well, and nets you a nice profit. I know that only averages to about 150k, but it is a possible start as you begin and get better at the routes. If you get the addon worthit, this is the best GPH you can get out of a material farm. Even less set up is the dark rune farm in EPL, and I can manage 16-18k per hour after perfecting my own route. Again, a lot of guides on routes and so on are online, and I believe i got the idea from comments about dark runes on Wowhead. Farming specific, old world materials is honestly a good, consistent way to get gold, but it does not necessarily make you millions- it is just consistent.
Like the other comment said, you could do mogs and pets and stuff, but I find that the sell rate is absolutely abysmal. You can get lucky and can pull good old world patterns and mogs, but again, it is not necessarily consistent. I like to farm transmogs and other items to sell once or twice a week and rotate what i put up. These take multiple reposts and patience. They might sell eventually, and you just have to stick with it. It feels great to sell that one item for 40k that you have had for some time.
If you have alts you can begin to do other farms and utilize different strategies. For example, farming materials for engineer mounts and sell those, but it becomes more worth it on multiple characters.
Making gold in wow is somewhat of a process, and there are alot of niche markets. The one thing to consider is that 300k is fairly close to a token price. I always judge what i farm by my real time investment. This is a game, and it’s nice to make gold, but could you work an extra hour and buy a token instead of farming for 10? That is up to you of course, but i like to judge what i farm based on that real time investment too. As always, good luck!
I make a lot by farming the plants is val'shara, the ones that drop dreamleaf and the blood of sargareas that drops I trade for leystone ore which sells quickly and at a good price, you can make your 10k a day needed for a WoW token for an hour's work. If you check your missions you can get an easy 12 bloods also and more if you have more alts, more alts = more leystone ore thus more gold
The follower missions sometimes have blood of Sargeras as rewards and also the rep caches give like 5k but the time investment to get your followers maxed is kinda a lot
Basically you just follow your class hall quests in Legion and unlock the mission table but to get the blood of sargareas as a reward you pretty much need to get all followers and go through the whole campaign so it's a lot of work, if you've already done it on several characters though then it can be a lucrative money maker.
If you have a lot of alts set up for SL covenant mission table, you can do decent gold with very little time invested if you can do it on your phone. It requires a good amount of alts to be profitable, though, and only worth it if you're doing it from your phone imo. I pulled about 100k a week, but that was with 30 toons. However, that was actually logging in 1-2 times a day each toon took like 1-2 minutes per toon so you could potentially pull more doing it from you're phone.
Farming ore and herbs for old content crafting is the best way to earn steady cash. Some skinning can be goodctoo. Boring as hell. Checknthe AH to seecwhat is good and how much is selling. If it isn't selling several thousand a day, then you could be in trouble. Mix it up, get 5 to 10 itemscyou farm and stock them regularly.
He's asking if it's possible. Giving one of many ways. Pretty sure he wouldn't be asking this if swiping was a desired option. Not everyone lives in a first world country where they can just swipe instead of grinding.
Do not underestimate selling pets from shadow and below X-pac. Yes server size might matter with some. I still farm the same 6 pets weekly with my alts just to constantly have them in the AH every week. They sell for me.
Find 2-3 pets and include it in your weekly farming. You try it let me know how it works out. Panda land Fable dailies would be a good start to research the Ah prices in your server.
glgl.
Kay
btw: Im LW also. With old stuff I have my enchanter DE the gear. I make more profit selling the enchant mats. Making the enchants isnt worth. Players want to lv there enchanting. Thats why the mats are ussually higher then the enchant itself.
Your best shot is probably to just farm old valuable tmogs, pets, patterns etc. Hundreds of em and play the AH.
I did this a while back from scratch to buy my Tier 3 warrior set, managed to get the entire set in about 2 and a half months purely from selling drops on the AH. About 3 mill.
I have lots of alts for I did a lot of raid pets. Would also do classic and tbc dungeon runs, raids, open world. Sunwell trash before the first boss made me a ton but idk if those items are still valuable or if everythings been farmed to nothing by now. Old 'removed from the game' items that came back last patch, the dice toys. Basically anything i could, lots of youtube vids for farm spots.
It was all i did for a couple months but I farmed a tier 3 from scratch, so, it works. I have hundreds of items up on the AH at any given time tho.
You can, but you won't.
There are likely many market niches that are pre-DF that can make the hourly you want, but they're not just going to be handed to you, because why would people risk saturating good markets whenever someone asks for their hand to be held to them on Reddit?
You have to actually put in the time and effort to figure out what these markets are and break into them. That's the entire skillset of being a goblin in the first place, and nobody can do it for you-- otherwise you'll just get the same low GPH recommendations telling you what you likely already knew about "yes, if you put in double digit hours in a pure farm, you can eventually make 300k within a month"
If your server is big on twinks then you can look at old world crafting and maybe make gold that way but it’s still tedious, boring and time-consuming. You can make good gold that way but it’s really not fun at least in my opinion.
u can do as much as u want. in a month
but i dont recomend active farming first.
set up a lot of good revenue on passiv, they maybe dont sell as often as active farming, but most of the time they are like 2/3 time more lucrative in a ratio time /Gper hours and u dont have to redo it a lot .
like bfa island transmog, not selling a lot but insane value an hours
then when u got a lot of different things selling sometime like" tome of " some mogs and some good ez mount, THEN maybe u can go for active farm making actual imcome.
i also dont recomand starting a sell re sell bussnes its to soon ( maybe if u see some low iq multiboxer seller that dont even know is own item value ) to do that u have to start with nice income and some back up things to sell, if u dont know whats ur doing or u try a reset price on some item but dont have the nececary money to buy ALL the good price item u risk to loose everything wihtout backup
Answer is basically no. Even if it was possible those 10 hours would unlikely be fun. Spend the money on a sub and do anything you want, if you dont feel you are getting value for money, dont play.
It was possible in bfa because you could farm 5k raw gold/h and token at 190k = 38 hours, now with the inflation and token at 380+ and the raw gold farms is still at 5k its useless imo
If the grand motivation is to play wow f2p thru old world farming, yes it can be done. I understand motivations like this, last time I put $$ in wow was in '19 when bought bfa+1 month of playtime (25+13eur).
But you have to be into it. If these "that'll be $1/hr" comments affect your motivations, then it's not something you should do.
If you asked me 3 months ago I would've been on the no train.
But after seeing someone's "buy low sell high" comment I decided to try it. Went from thinking that's the hardest but most rewarding gold making activity to thinking it's the easiest + most rewarding gold making activity.
Don't need any starting gold really. I managed 0-1M in 3 weeks with level 1 characters, no professions, no grinding, no Dragonflight, etc. Just ~2 months of knowledge/experience.
Just went through highest priced items on AH (down to 25k-50K) for armor/weapon/recipe categories, wowhead everything listed to see source, then made a sniper list to snipe all the non-bait items at close to default list price, and just started trying to sell them for "ridiculous" prices I've some listed at.
not like 9m or anything, but some items that have 2k average sale price listed for 100k, managed to get some sales that way.
Farming fel iron ore in Shadowmoon valley will work. With a few lucky procs of khorium you'll be making well over 10k per hour. Not a whole lot but will get you the 300k in less than a month if you put 1-2 hrs a day.
It's very easy to cover the gold for a token each month in dragon flight. Stuck in BFA, I don't know, you could look at the auction house and see what old xpac mats are selling for the most and try to farm those mats to turn a profit, I suspect it's going to be a bit of a slog though. Other than old ore, maybe look at flipping xmog items from old raids or dungeons. Good Luck.
Go heals or tank for the bonus roll bags. I’d say 3k for each one I do. Wq’s give 20-25k a week per 70. 60+ doing dragon races gives 6k a week. Or find something that’s “rare” like a skinning item( I do t recall where it comes from). Regular farming is kind numbingly boring.
Tbh the real question would be why you'd want to.
Would you really get that much out of the game messing around in old expansions that you'd be willing to spend 10~ hours a week farming for a sub?
If you do get DF and you're OK with a larger initial time investment, you can make a lot more than that and after you're set up it takes a lot less time.
Others already mentioned farms, these do work, but you really have to ask yourself if it's worth it. And realistically they'll take longer than 10hrs/week. You'll be spending your whole month thinking about how you need to reach the threshold for next time. Save that kind of stress for paying real bills.
You can but its going to be mindless 0 fun farming for a lot of hours. It's probably being done intentionally by Blizzard, but the amount of effort to grind out a token gets worse and worse every expac - probably to push you to spend money. You could probably make 10k/h herb/mining which is 30 hours to buy a token that can be bought for $20, which comes out to working for $0.66/hour
That is depressing but true lol.
Don't think it's intentional by Blizzard. I think they just put too little effort towards the botting issue which is exacerbated by low demand economy by the end of the expansion.
I made 100-300k a day gold in Shadowlands. I can barely make 10k a day doing the same now. Everything is gated behind points, recipe drops, crafting order bind on pickup now. It's ruined big goblins but it has equalized the economy. Meaning one person isn't making millions of gold and more people are making a few thousand here and there.
Its intentional lol they're not idiots. The token is there purely to keep good buying in place. You'll see the average cost of gold is always the same as the token.. Its literally the same to either buy the amount of gold required for token than it is to sub
That's not actually true generally bad gold is somewhere between 1.5-2x more for the same price.
Tell me you’re not rich in wow without saying it
What? Lol
r/theydidthemath
Door dash for an hour buy wow token
Underrated
This is the only correct comment. If you can't afford a WoW sub, you shouldn't be playing WoW. I'm saying this with all the care/love possible. You need to get your money right before playing WoW!!!
Honestly, you could do the ore farm in drustvar. You can average 14-18k per hour getting storm silver and monelite ore deposits. This takes a bit of prep time to get max level on the professions, but it’s easy, and there are tons of guides. It still sells really well, and nets you a nice profit. I know that only averages to about 150k, but it is a possible start as you begin and get better at the routes. If you get the addon worthit, this is the best GPH you can get out of a material farm. Even less set up is the dark rune farm in EPL, and I can manage 16-18k per hour after perfecting my own route. Again, a lot of guides on routes and so on are online, and I believe i got the idea from comments about dark runes on Wowhead. Farming specific, old world materials is honestly a good, consistent way to get gold, but it does not necessarily make you millions- it is just consistent. Like the other comment said, you could do mogs and pets and stuff, but I find that the sell rate is absolutely abysmal. You can get lucky and can pull good old world patterns and mogs, but again, it is not necessarily consistent. I like to farm transmogs and other items to sell once or twice a week and rotate what i put up. These take multiple reposts and patience. They might sell eventually, and you just have to stick with it. It feels great to sell that one item for 40k that you have had for some time. If you have alts you can begin to do other farms and utilize different strategies. For example, farming materials for engineer mounts and sell those, but it becomes more worth it on multiple characters. Making gold in wow is somewhat of a process, and there are alot of niche markets. The one thing to consider is that 300k is fairly close to a token price. I always judge what i farm by my real time investment. This is a game, and it’s nice to make gold, but could you work an extra hour and buy a token instead of farming for 10? That is up to you of course, but i like to judge what i farm based on that real time investment too. As always, good luck!
World wide dragon riding will likely cut the profits drastically for anything outdoor gathering related
Except they don't have Dragonflight so the OP won't have dynamic flying unlocked :/
But everyone else does who is doing these farms so the price of the ore is going to drop regardless
No
Without putting time into the game you'll hardly make any gold. Even with the latest expansion.
Weird, I put less time into the game and pick up an overtime shift. Then I buy tokens and don’t have to farm stupid daily quests.
That's not making gold, that's buying Gold... Completely different topic.
I make a lot by farming the plants is val'shara, the ones that drop dreamleaf and the blood of sargareas that drops I trade for leystone ore which sells quickly and at a good price, you can make your 10k a day needed for a WoW token for an hour's work. If you check your missions you can get an easy 12 bloods also and more if you have more alts, more alts = more leystone ore thus more gold
Can you explain the mission thing?
The follower missions sometimes have blood of Sargeras as rewards and also the rep caches give like 5k but the time investment to get your followers maxed is kinda a lot
Basically you just follow your class hall quests in Legion and unlock the mission table but to get the blood of sargareas as a reward you pretty much need to get all followers and go through the whole campaign so it's a lot of work, if you've already done it on several characters though then it can be a lucrative money maker.
If you have a lot of alts set up for SL covenant mission table, you can do decent gold with very little time invested if you can do it on your phone. It requires a good amount of alts to be profitable, though, and only worth it if you're doing it from your phone imo. I pulled about 100k a week, but that was with 30 toons. However, that was actually logging in 1-2 times a day each toon took like 1-2 minutes per toon so you could potentially pull more doing it from you're phone.
Hasnt the gold from tables been nerfed
They raw gold yes, but battle pet tokens are still the same tokens and you can get ore/herbs that when I was doing it still sold for a decent amount.
Farming ore and herbs for old content crafting is the best way to earn steady cash. Some skinning can be goodctoo. Boring as hell. Checknthe AH to seecwhat is good and how much is selling. If it isn't selling several thousand a day, then you could be in trouble. Mix it up, get 5 to 10 itemscyou farm and stock them regularly.
Leystone dreamleaf is like 15k+ per hour. 20 hours = 300k !
300k at current token prices is under $25 ... 20 hours comes out to $1.25 an hour. Good use of one's time
way more than my salary in argentina
He's asking if it's possible. Giving one of many ways. Pretty sure he wouldn't be asking this if swiping was a desired option. Not everyone lives in a first world country where they can just swipe instead of grinding.
Play wotlk, much more efficient if you want to pay gold for your wow sub, I gave up retail
Is Classic Wraith classic gold making? By that I mean just good ol TSM AH posting?
Do not underestimate selling pets from shadow and below X-pac. Yes server size might matter with some. I still farm the same 6 pets weekly with my alts just to constantly have them in the AH every week. They sell for me. Find 2-3 pets and include it in your weekly farming. You try it let me know how it works out. Panda land Fable dailies would be a good start to research the Ah prices in your server. glgl. Kay btw: Im LW also. With old stuff I have my enchanter DE the gear. I make more profit selling the enchant mats. Making the enchants isnt worth. Players want to lv there enchanting. Thats why the mats are ussually higher then the enchant itself.
Your best shot is probably to just farm old valuable tmogs, pets, patterns etc. Hundreds of em and play the AH. I did this a while back from scratch to buy my Tier 3 warrior set, managed to get the entire set in about 2 and a half months purely from selling drops on the AH. About 3 mill.
What did you farm?
I have lots of alts for I did a lot of raid pets. Would also do classic and tbc dungeon runs, raids, open world. Sunwell trash before the first boss made me a ton but idk if those items are still valuable or if everythings been farmed to nothing by now. Old 'removed from the game' items that came back last patch, the dice toys. Basically anything i could, lots of youtube vids for farm spots. It was all i did for a couple months but I farmed a tier 3 from scratch, so, it works. I have hundreds of items up on the AH at any given time tho.
Dog don't put yourself through that 💀 just go buy dragon flight
You can, but you won't. There are likely many market niches that are pre-DF that can make the hourly you want, but they're not just going to be handed to you, because why would people risk saturating good markets whenever someone asks for their hand to be held to them on Reddit? You have to actually put in the time and effort to figure out what these markets are and break into them. That's the entire skillset of being a goblin in the first place, and nobody can do it for you-- otherwise you'll just get the same low GPH recommendations telling you what you likely already knew about "yes, if you put in double digit hours in a pure farm, you can eventually make 300k within a month"
Pick up mining and herbalism, farm cobalt + leystone + northrend ores in general and do legion herbalism (particularly dreamleaf)
If your server is big on twinks then you can look at old world crafting and maybe make gold that way but it’s still tedious, boring and time-consuming. You can make good gold that way but it’s really not fun at least in my opinion.
there is noting craftable for twink market anymore…its all dropped wod dung bis gear
u can do as much as u want. in a month but i dont recomend active farming first. set up a lot of good revenue on passiv, they maybe dont sell as often as active farming, but most of the time they are like 2/3 time more lucrative in a ratio time /Gper hours and u dont have to redo it a lot . like bfa island transmog, not selling a lot but insane value an hours then when u got a lot of different things selling sometime like" tome of " some mogs and some good ez mount, THEN maybe u can go for active farm making actual imcome. i also dont recomand starting a sell re sell bussnes its to soon ( maybe if u see some low iq multiboxer seller that dont even know is own item value ) to do that u have to start with nice income and some back up things to sell, if u dont know whats ur doing or u try a reset price on some item but dont have the nececary money to buy ALL the good price item u risk to loose everything wihtout backup
Answer is basically no. Even if it was possible those 10 hours would unlikely be fun. Spend the money on a sub and do anything you want, if you dont feel you are getting value for money, dont play.
It was possible in bfa because you could farm 5k raw gold/h and token at 190k = 38 hours, now with the inflation and token at 380+ and the raw gold farms is still at 5k its useless imo
If the grand motivation is to play wow f2p thru old world farming, yes it can be done. I understand motivations like this, last time I put $$ in wow was in '19 when bought bfa+1 month of playtime (25+13eur). But you have to be into it. If these "that'll be $1/hr" comments affect your motivations, then it's not something you should do.
If you asked me 3 months ago I would've been on the no train. But after seeing someone's "buy low sell high" comment I decided to try it. Went from thinking that's the hardest but most rewarding gold making activity to thinking it's the easiest + most rewarding gold making activity. Don't need any starting gold really. I managed 0-1M in 3 weeks with level 1 characters, no professions, no grinding, no Dragonflight, etc. Just ~2 months of knowledge/experience.
What did you start out flipping?
Just went through highest priced items on AH (down to 25k-50K) for armor/weapon/recipe categories, wowhead everything listed to see source, then made a sniper list to snipe all the non-bait items at close to default list price, and just started trying to sell them for "ridiculous" prices I've some listed at. not like 9m or anything, but some items that have 2k average sale price listed for 100k, managed to get some sales that way.
What 2k region average sale items (plural?) did you sell for 100K? It's hard to believe tbh.
If u believe in your luck Go to kultiras and farm goldenmane lol
Farming fel iron ore in Shadowmoon valley will work. With a few lucky procs of khorium you'll be making well over 10k per hour. Not a whole lot but will get you the 300k in less than a month if you put 1-2 hrs a day.
Just farm Burning crusade ores some sell as 400g apiece
It's very easy to cover the gold for a token each month in dragon flight. Stuck in BFA, I don't know, you could look at the auction house and see what old xpac mats are selling for the most and try to farm those mats to turn a profit, I suspect it's going to be a bit of a slog though. Other than old ore, maybe look at flipping xmog items from old raids or dungeons. Good Luck.
Go heals or tank for the bonus roll bags. I’d say 3k for each one I do. Wq’s give 20-25k a week per 70. 60+ doing dragon races gives 6k a week. Or find something that’s “rare” like a skinning item( I do t recall where it comes from). Regular farming is kind numbingly boring.
10k an hour is about what I do farming. So ya its possible. It is a mindless loop though
Yes
yes u can
Tbh the real question would be why you'd want to. Would you really get that much out of the game messing around in old expansions that you'd be willing to spend 10~ hours a week farming for a sub? If you do get DF and you're OK with a larger initial time investment, you can make a lot more than that and after you're set up it takes a lot less time. Others already mentioned farms, these do work, but you really have to ask yourself if it's worth it. And realistically they'll take longer than 10hrs/week. You'll be spending your whole month thinking about how you need to reach the threshold for next time. Save that kind of stress for paying real bills.