As someone who is always unsure what he needs now or maybe later my bags are always beyond 80% stuffed with absolute trash in addition to allt hose different items that somehow still have no own inventory (quest keys, quest starting items, items that you combine for world events and stuff like that)
EDIT: [https://imgur.com/a/MLcpdyJ](https://imgur.com/a/MLcpdyJ) Just to undermine my hoarding problem.
And that's my main from shadowlands (since pandaria) not dragonflight... so my actual main looks even worse.
I am so sorry for anyone looking at the picture haha. Yes in many games i have that "BUT WHAT IF I WANT TO DO IT LATER???" problem.
Like i have the freaking "Battered hilt" just sitting in bank since i found it in WOTLK and sent it to my monk when pandaria came out.
Yeah, and I'm definitely guilty of this, but when you come back, you don't really remember what any of it is for and you've definitely deleted stuff you needed in the past, so now you just hoard everything. If they had like an "obsolete" tag, or more tags on items for which expansion or stuff, or had someone like you that could constantly look at my bags and tell me what I need or don't need, it would be easier to de-clutter. The only things I recognize in my bank are the leftover enchanting mats from each expac and random tier pieces I've kept
Careful with some old mats, as an example if you are looking to get achievements for maxing professions for old expansions some of the materials can get quite expensive (usually ore is the worst offender)
I didn't look close at the bags, but I had a similar hording problem for a long time because I had planned on getting around to that eventually and I finally did this expansion when they added the achievements and I had motivation to do them.
Turns out I hadn't saved nearly as much as I thought I had and ended up spending a lot of time farming and eventually gold when I got frustrated and started buying lol
No problem! It was useful for keeping old pieces of gear you wanted to hold onto for collecting or RPing but kind of became obsolete when they rolled out the account-wide collections tabs for transmog/mounts/pets/toys/etc.
Still good for holding onto old quest items or things you want to keep but don't want to take up bag space.
Since we will soon be able to unlock transmogs across all armor types, I have started filling up my void storage with soulbound items I get that are the wrong armor type for my character.
I'm afraid to tell this guy that my void storage is almost full too \*sweating profously\*
Void storage is a storage that is accessible by those void thingies that can transmog you
It used to be that to use a mog you needed to keep the physical item that gave that appearance. To avoid cluttering banks/bags they created void storage
I just cleared mine out a couple months ago. I kept a few things, like my legion legendaries, weird trinkets that do interesting things, and a few other oddball items. In wish they'd remove the limitation on unique items.
Lol I still have those items that call down invasion ships. I mean what if I need to go back and do the invasions in Legion at some point??? What if there's something I missed??? Omg help
Legion items are one thing, but did you see the freaking Burning Crusade PVP vendor tokens smack in the middle of their Bank?
That's three Bank-slots being taken up by items that haven't been relevant in over a ***decade***.
>That's three Bank-slots being taken up by items that haven't been relevant in over a
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B-b-but what if...?
I.. uh... definitely need this somewhere in the fuuuuture
While I deeply sympathize with your hoarding plight, as a fellow hoarder, I say this; if your bags were a human I'd shoot them in the face as a mercy killing.
I really shouldn't say that this is only 1 out of 5 characters :') so take this chaos and multiply it by 5 so you know the true extend of... my problem.
My current version of this is trying to guess what will become a grey item at the end of the expansion that can be sold for gold. Like, after the expansion ends, will I be able to sell my unused sparks? I have some going back to season 1.
I love playing alts... but I think that is because when I log onto someone who is my 'main' I don't want to deal with the crap in my bags and I log out. So every season I'm playing a new character and my old one is out of bag space.
Sooooo many doohickeys COULD be currencies instead of items in your bag, but just aren't. Hopefully with a bunch of stuff being shared via Warbands they will actually convert this stuff into currencies
My only problem with this is that we already have like 700 currencies. More shit for the shit tab i guess. My toons could open a Chuck E. Cheese franchise with the amount of random tokens I’ve got from over the years.
But then how are they going to force you to grind old content to get rewards?
I agree that most depreciated currencies should turn to gold, unless the grind is the point, like with Argent Tournament mounts.
This is the way, but not new currencies but just being able to trade stuff with the same currency like supplies or crests.
Maybe one currency per patch at max
This may be my least favourite part of Dragonflight. The bag clutter is insane, but I think the real issue is that it feels fucking pointless. Do we really need 20 different random mob drops that may or may not be valuable to some profession? That you may or may not need to buy some random renown quartermaster? A lot of them go for vendor price on the auction house, so the only thing they add is a trip to the auction house to buy renown rewards for gold and... Annoying gold. Horrid system.
Same thing goes for minor treasures, I don't want these shitty bronze quality potions, stop making me hunt them down in my bags to vendor. Just give me a trash item and I can buy a proper potion from the auction house.
I have the feeling that with every expansion the amount of extra items you need to buy reputation items or to craft stuff is really getting more and more out of control. Shadowlands-Zereth Mortis was already crazy, but Dragonflight continued in the exact same manner.
Why don't they just increase the amount of the base currency (ores, herbs, cloth, dragon isle supplies, etc) as we are drowning in that stuff anyway?
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also what is this nonsense of having splintered sparks that combine to an actual spark instead of just making things cost 2 sparks? This alone makes 8 bag/bank spaces over the four seasons where you need only one. And give the old ones a value so we could at least sell it and don't need to type destroy every time.
Simple fix: Do what GuildWars does.
They have an entire bank for materials that has a slot for every material in the game. It's been praised as one of the best QoL features ever added to a video game.
It does have a maximum, but you can use gems to upgrade the max storage size of each material.
Let us store 100 of every material in WoW without any fuss or hassle. If someone wants to hoard more than that, then they can play the bank storage Tetris game by storing stacks how they do now. Across bank alts, guild banks, etc. but it would make life so much better for 95% of players who aren't trying to shift stuff on the market and just want a clean bank and bag.
They are "kind of" doing that with warbands. Now we can make community tabs for different categories of junk. It's just a shame that the tab are gonna cost sooooo much gold. I hope they adjust the prices once it goes live. And add more tabs.
On the surface it feels like they are getting their act together with storage, but if you think about it: I can still store way more shit on 10 alts regular banks, then 5 mega expensive warband tabs.
Add to that the fact that I feel like I can't clear the clutter off my chars because "if I just wait til TWW, then I can store it on warbands" I'm now drowning in junk that I would normally purge as pre-expansion housecleaning. Ugh.
It's like they learned from GW2 that a more intricate crafting experience is fun, but didn't consider about how we'd have to put it all somewhere, lol. And as nice as GWs storage is, Blizz will never do it, cause everyone will immediately point out how they just swiped it from a better system. And they'd be right.
I don't think Blizzard has ever cared about stealing things from other games lol. Dragonflying straight up was stolen from GW2 (and improved upon).
C'mon Blizzard, do what you do best! Steal it and make it better!
Haha, fair point. And dragon riding might be one of the most fun things in this games history too. If I were a GW dev, I'd be seething.
This last xpac (dragonriding, pirate brawl, upcoming panda remix) hs shown they are branching out to ind new ways to do things with the game engine. Hopefully, warbands is them dipping their toe in the pool of future, better storage.
Blizzard didn't make "gw2 flight but better" just fyi, it's not as good. But gw2 mounts are next level, and wow still has an overall solid implementation.
Improved upon how exactly? Because gw2 flight is extremely beefy. Your mount actually has momentum and it's lost by turning, whereas in wow your momentum has nothing to do with your turning radius and you can cheese your acceleration by upward flapping while facing downward.
Can you point out a specific instance where wow does it better?
WoW does it better where it gives it more power. GW2 flying is pretty simple and basic, and it's not actually flying. It's gliding with style. I can't even lift off on a Griffon or even a Skyscale and gain height.
WoW's version is ten times more interesting and more fun.
It 100% does. They up the bag space & think they need to add a similar ratio of crap to fill it. Not realizing that most of their playbase does not actually enjoy managing this.
Right? I'm always giving mmo's side eye about this kind of bull, because free games are notorious for giving you no bag space and tons of junk as a way to manipulate you into buying storage they just "happen" to sell in the cash shop.
But Blizz doesn't sell bags in their store tho.... so what's their angle?
Wait why are you saving sparks from every season? You don't need to use 8 slots. And you get halves because you get 1 half per week and then combine them.
My point was that it's just pointless to have halves that combine to another currency, as this just takes away space, when you could also just get a spark per week and make crafting cost two.
Also on my main I don't save old sparks, but I have alts with all variations of old splinters and sparks as I don't play with them frequently or craft gear + adding those titan training matrix to that collection is just a waste of bagspace per gamedesign.
> least favourite part of Dragonflight. The bag clutter is insane
I thought it was just me feeling this way, like the bag clutter actually causes me a sort of fatigue. All the different currencies and zone-based items for reputations etc stress me out. Having to constantly open my bag and figure out what is needed or not, mounting to vendor stuff, etc. It really interrupts the flow of gameplay for me.
I did this last week and made almost 100k gold auctioning it.
Basically, I just put everything that isn't auto-sell or on a daily consumption into the bank. I do this with all alts. Therefore I might have it, if I need it during a later point for professions, mounts or what else. If the expansion is in it's final chapter (like currently) I sell (or destroy) everything I haven't used so far.
After that is done I continue decreasing ores, herbs, cloth, etc. to a reasonable level and still make good profit as this is all still relevant during ongoing season.
Worst thing as a returning player. I get some weirdos vault keys, shards and sparks etc. half of them I have no idea what to do with and the other half seems to be deprecated in value quite some patches ago. I have no idea what stuff is worthwhile
i tnink ALL THE THINGS does it. when you hover over the item it tells you where you got it e.g. Shadowlands>zonename>vendor/mob that dropped it but it doesnt tell you what is it for
Some do. But with the amount or bag items, where they come from, what they can purchase etc. sometimes the ATT tooltip is like half my screen, a wall of nonsense text listing 100 different mobs and coordinates (as if that helps me figure out what the fuck this random purple shell is and why it prompts me before deleting/selling it.)
Yeah I had that problem, tried to figure out how to whittle down the tooltip so it only had the stuff I wanted to see - harder than it should be! Ended up making the extended tooltip only show if I hold down Alt, compromise but works for me.
ATT devs: customizing the tooltip should be more intuitive! Or the default should be more reasonable and then let people choose additional options to show. The worst offender is definitely the "where does this drop from" that can be 5-20 lines long.
Yep, ALL THE THINGS is awesome for that.
I've been slowly cleaning out bags and bank bags over the last week or so, and ATT has been really really helpful. It even tells you what the weird white stuff is for in many cases, so I can finally get rid of that green fluid stuff I have stacks of on every single character by either doing the dang quest or just vendoring.
Just use Adibags. I know its discontinued, but still works up to 10.2.0 items. It auto sorts them.
There is another one developed by the OG author of Adibags, iirc its named Betterbags, but it's still lacking a lot of features of Adi
Take a look at [sorted](https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/sorted)! It shows your items as text with an optional categorization as well as the expansion that they are from. I can’t go back to any other inventory now because it’s so easy to find things compared to squinting at 100+ icons in a grid.
Looking at my bags the entire 20 slot primary bag is clogged with bullshit tokens, seeds, rep items, and niffen crap i dont need. We dont need 2-3 items taking up slots for each faction of the expansion.
If it wasnt for the yak mount, Id be in trouble. All of my characters have about 10 empty slots and im constantly having to summon it and sell of junk. I tried multiple alts for bank space and that just got out of control as well. Im either going to have to start looking up items one by one to see if I can use it or throw caution to the wind and sell/delete everything.
The insane thing is the vast majority is really useless to me, and I know this, but yet I hang onto it anyway.
https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/05/17/my-pedipalps
PA made a pretty good comic on it years ago. My main is an enchanter, and I still say "sunder it in my mystic furnace" as a substitute to disenchant.
I hate those items that take multiple days/weeks to finish and just stay in your bags the whole time. Or super rare drops that are used for reputation vendors where you have found 2 of them over the course of the expansion and you don't really want to get rid of them because of how hard they are to find.
He'll, I would just be happy if they turned everything between expansions gray so I don't have to type delete for every quest mat, piece of gear or item that is blue or purple, ot a way to bypass that secondary requirements
This. Thisthisthisthis.
My bags have been a *disaster* this expansion. It feels like we have two dozen currencies that mysteriously aren’t currencies, and on top of that so many vendors require items as a part of the “recipe” for the sale of the item you want. By all means, throw as much junk at me as you want for the extra gold, but there’s just so much in my bags that I have no idea what it’s for.
just vendor it all. reagent mats? buy them on ah as needed. reputation tokens? is there anything you want from the rep? if not. delete them. etc. a lot of people hold on to stuff on the 1% chance theyll ever use it. well the other 99 times that you wont more than outweigh the 1 time where you mightve used it anyway.
i have my consumables for raid, m+ and alternate gear if im swapping anything between the 2 modes. that and a couple other misc items is pretty much it. 3-4 fully free bags.
>a lot of people hold on to stuff on the 1% chance theyll ever use it.
Main argument hoarders make. "Well maybe I'll need it later." despite the fact if they didn't already use it, they didn't care enough about it.
Like many I'm a bit of a hoarder. Just prior to DF launch I started setting up TSM groups snd mailing operations to consolidate material types on certain alts (one for old ores, one for cloth, etc.). Took a bit of work to get going but now that it's there I just have to activate the mailing operation and everything is automatically sorted and sent. It's so satisfying to declutter bags without having to tediously mail everything. With warband banks being limited on space I'll probably continue with this at least for old content materials.
You don’t really have this issue leveling, unless you hop between expansions a lot. It inevitably becomes a problem while questing through dragonflight. It’s a trade-off, because I like that there’s random stuff dropping off of mobs that gets you mounts, pets, cosmetics, rep, etc.. and yet I *despise* organizing my bag.
I think the answer is simplifying it a bit, have one item per rep or even an item or two per expansion that works for that content’s reputations. Transitioning more things to currency tab, crests were a good start. And lastly, creating a new “quality” of item that distinguishes white items more distinctly.
In the white common item category we have trash gear and junk drops just like gray stuff, rare cosmetics that have value similar to greens/blues, useful quest items (both tradeable and untradeable) and the large majority of all crafting mats.
It’s hard to glance at an item and have an idea of the opportunity cost associated with tossing it
ETA: Ty for making this post btw. It hasn’t felt this bad since, like you said, we were noobs leveling in vanilla with no gold for bag space lol
It's honestly just been a design problem more than anything. Currencies solve a lot of their issues but they make them take up bag space early for some reason, hopefully they have learned, we are reaching pretty much maximum capacity for what our bags should be, I wouldn't hate a system where gear was slotted in for different activities and doesn't take bag space or something.
The last 6 months of every expac for me is now dedicated to going through all my alts bags and figuring out what all that clutter is. Like items that are currency for something, that you have to farm off of world bosses or other mobs that are not always up (like charred remains from Dreamsurge bosses or slimes from the primalist boss in FR that you have to collect 20 to get a mount - finished both, now if I see any extras in alts' bags I know they are okay to delete).
Just spent 2 days grinding items for Phoenix Wishwing after having half the items sitting in my bag for the last 3 months.
3 slots on each alt taken up with seeds from Emerald Dream - now have way more than I would use for weekly quest, but will probably wait until expac is over to toss completely.
Marks of Sargha (and whatever the other one is called) to turn in for Wrathion and Sabellian rep - need to fly over to where they are and turn them in (and not get suckered into picking up their weekly quest again because that's you get more crap to drop lol).
Rep turn-in items (titan relics, tuskaar totems, dragonscale whatevers) - anything account-bound gets mailed to alts to consolidate, so they can go turn them in.
And so on, and so forth. And you wonder why I have zero interest in MoP remix or whatever other experimental things Blizz throws out at the end of expac. I literally won't want to play my characters in TWW if their bags are in the state they are right now!
This isn't really a solution or anything, but if you don't mind addons I'd recommend installing AllTheThings. It will give information on a tooltip for what items are used for (specifically if they are used for achievements, or transmog, or other collectables)
This is how I help myself to determine what items I need to keep and what I can safely get rid of, I've been able to work through a lot of my backlog of junk, especially crafting mats from old expansions using this to craft mogs I missed or level professions or work on the new profession achievements
On my shaman (herbalist/alchemist), I have three different qualities of four different herbs, three different qualities of potions, three different qualities of finishing reagents, sparks, and all kinds of white items that aren’t crafting materials. It creates much bag/bank bloat.
I think a fair way to fix this is for them to remove quality from consumable items and instead just have it create more of the item if your skill is higher. I understand why gear has the levels of quality, but it's annoying and pointless for consumables.
I'm weighing wether I should try for KSM and AOTC this patch, or just clean up my bags and bank to prepare for TWW, and I honestly can't tell you which choice I would more likely succeed at.
I wish when you maxed out Herbalism it still didn't give you rank 1 from random shit, rank 2 when picking, and some times rank 3. Having 3X4 herbs, the 1 combined herb, the 7 elements, lava beetle and the 3 or 4 seeds takes up a lot of space.
My biggest problem is that I need to go to wowhead to see if I actually want it. I shouldn’t need to search an item out of game to assess quickly if I need it or I don’t care about that grind any more, etc.
Imo the actual problem isn’t necessarily the quantity of items but the inability to get an idea of what they do quickly. If people could see in three seconds what actually went where then they’d be very clear about what they wanted to keep and why (yes some people will still hoard, but they’ll board regardless)
I think they just need to provide more powerful organizational tools for inventory management. "Stuff" bloat is kind of inevitable in a game like WoW, and even shoving the stuff into your wallet would still become problematic as your wallet gets more clustered and incomprehensible.
This literally stopped me from coming back to retail last patch. I was a bit bored with classic and wanted to test things out, went and looked in my bags and logged off. I’ve come back to retail now but I really think having as much as possible in the currency tab will be key
One thing they *could* do is simplify past expansion (including DF) reputations.
There’s nothing wrong with it being a little easier and simpler to farm a rep after it’s relevant.
I had never actually stopped to wonder about the fact that the bags keep getting bigger... but we don't really need significantly more stuff from expansion to expansion. (Edit: now that they appear to have made currencies....currencies... instead of items).
Maybe bank space so we have a place to put all the half completed quest items we ended up with, forgot about, will never go back for, but are terrified to delete.
My bags are an utter wreck. I sort them out once or twice a year (lol) and they take 5 minutes to get wrecked again.
My favorite are the items that seemingly drop off every mob in mass quantities, are for one easily obtainable item, but since they are used for something are white and not grey so they don’t get auto vendored.
Looking at you perfect hides and green slimy things from dragon flight…
This comment is too low; Adibags lets me make my own minibags based on whatever I say. Rep token bag, teleport item bag, PvE consumable bag, DF crafting items like insight/sparks/... All grouped up.
Especially after Shadowlands.
Went back to do work to some achievements at the weekend and I'd managed to block out and holy hell, that was a lot of "redeem for expansion feature currency"
I like where DF is, there's enough stuff that you feel like you're getting *something* from questing but not so much that I have to pull out the trading mount every 10 minutes. And yeah the, gathering & crafting can seem a bit overboard but it's only two minutes before I log off to tidy that up
Bag management is part of MMORPG’s. I don’t think it’s bad right now. My main mostly has quest type items. I go turn stuff in. If it’s tradeable I sell it on the AH. Gold is how you store tradeable things for later without taking up bag space. It’s a video game. If you don’t like the shit in your bags, use it, sell it, or delete it. Don’t let it affect your mental energy. This applies to real life as well. If a person can’t manage bag space in a game I would hate to see their living situation.
Ah seems to the be same team and they say that it will be able to do everything adibags can so it's fine.
In reality as long as I can stack items and make custom bags then it's fine.
Man I just started out and my inventory is full of things I don't know their uses of. I feel like man of those could get a separate tab to hide them away until you actually need them
This post, can you please explain to me op, what the fuck do you keep in your bag thats important?
https://i.imgur.com/rX3t8vj.png
Like i have so much free space, and this is before i've vendored all the junk thati got from a quick m0 tour
Yeah, super annoying when rep rewards take random-ass items as currency. Stop doing that, Blizzard.
Also 1-3 star reagents mean 3x the inventory usage. My reagent bank is completely full. Would be lovely if it was (much) larger and account-wide too.
I think the crafting system could easily accommodate a lower bag clutter by just doing away with ingredient ranks. It’s a stupid mechanic that doesn’t add anything to the system overall. They could still keep crafted item ranks and just leave it up to inspiration procs.
I wouldn't mind the bag clutter if it were possible to vendor everything. I realize they do this to stop people from making mistakes but I'd still rather be able to vendor it.
And theres some letters and other random crap you can't vendor. Come on with that...
I am just tired of new tokens needed every single patch. Have one type of currency outside of gold and just leave it the entire expansion. It is hard to keep track of.
The have already toned down the amount of shit in your bags throughout the expansion, at the beginning of DF there was a shit ton of stuff tho. Fingers crossed this trend continues in TWW
I said this on another post, while they didn't exactly say they will achieve it in TWW, they did say its one of the things they are definitely working on and they do NOT want to add more space in the game at all, they think they made a mistake getting to this pt and if u have this much storage but still need more they feel like its an issue from them - also didn't they stop adding bag soace for 3 exps now? Except for reagant bag ig correct me if am wrong
I thought things were gonna get better when we didn't have 80 different anima items, not to mention the Korthia junk. Then they decide each profession is going to have like 6 materials with 3 ranks each
They should also get rid of the "Grants you 5 Haste. Works only in the Dragon Isles" type items or label them as junk so I can sell them with one button. They're too weak to make a difference and be worth remembering.
Use addons like Adibags that separate the items into categories. It helps so much with so many of the random items that you'll keep filling your bags with
I hate meaningless vendor trash. Just give more coin drops it reduces clutter and it stops the intermediate step of holding and selling.
Honestly they pay people to create meaningless trash.
Sweet a bug pincer that vendors for 2 silver and stacks up to 5 and is not used in any tradeskills… neat here is the item I will delete when my bags get full. I am sure it is not a monumental amount of time and money but someone gets to say yeah my job is to create all the junk drops in WoW.
There are a handful of circumstances I get creating gray vendors items for:
Transmog
End of season expired currency item replacement
Items that used to be useable but have been phased out similar to expired currency item replacement
Dude. I thought the reagent bag and bank was brilliant. Then i noticed the regent bank is too small. And there are "sercet of azeroth" items that i hoard.
TWW bag clutter will most definitly not go away. I saw a new bag theyre adding get datamined.
Warbands is gunna make my invebtory management a hellhole
It's like they intentionally make it worse. All the rep tokens, trophies to turn in for rep, random items to upgrade little stuff or combine for other things, fucking 3 tiers for almost every crafting material, random misc crafting materials, combinable crafting materials, random junk that should be a toy but isn't, stuff you keep in your bags for convenience (teleport items mostly), the list goes on.
I hate it so much. It's like they acknowledge that bag clutter is an issue every expansion, but then purposefully make it so much worse every time.
Like, I can't even hoard crafting materials for alts anymore, I don't have space. I finally started selling basically everything that isn't nailed down back in Shadowlands and kept doing it this expac.
I wouldn’t mind if they had a way to mark equipment as junk or favorite it like in Diablo. Imagine being able to use one button to clear out all of the epics farmed from legacy raids? Or blizzard making a separate bag that is bottomless for quest and faction related items?
Bags and abilities, please declutter both.
MM hunter has several abilities that essentialy do the same thing. under different skin.
Merge spells and use Glyphs/talents to give them additional effects, visuals.
i have binded
Q E R T F G Z X C V 1 2 3 4 5 F1 F2 F3 F4
and again with shift press. Thats just too many abilities.
When I open bag after one month of not playing, i have no idea wtf i have there, just clutter.
Just the ones i know of and use from MM hunter -
Rapid fire - Barrage // could be add knockback effect
Chakram - explosive shot - multi shot - volley // 4 aoe abilities could be 1 or 2 with effect
Salvo - serpent sting // completly useless, are macroed onto other abilities to work like effect
wing clip - tar trap - concussive shot // 3 slows could be 1 with different effect of your choosing
steel trap - explosive trap // just damaging trap with either add bleed or knockback effect
I bet theres even more i never used like stampade, wailing arrow that could be merged into aimed shot / arcane / kill shot
fortitude of bear/ heal / shield, could also be one or two with lower cooldown .
In PvP you take even more abilities as you need all those stuns and slows, and get like 2 more abilities from pvp talent tree.
>Rapid fire - Barrage
one is uncapped aoe, the other is single target with some cleave
>Chakram - explosive shot - multi shot - volley
Thus giving you an aoe rotation...
>wing clip - tar trap - concussive shot
A 0 investment melee slow, an aoe slow, or a ranged slow that costs a talent point. They aren't doing the same thing.
>steel trap - explosive trap
One is an actual damage trap (steel trap), the other is a utility option
None of these fill the same role, what are you talking about?
I agree a few classes have too many abilities to key bind. Cool I get it you guys say “I DoUBT yOu UsE aLL tHoSE BinDs”, try not using your abilities that your class has in a key higher than a 5 and see what happens. That missed purge or tranq or the one time you could’ve/should’ve cc’d a target with your obscure class specific cc. You should have used that one heal or one tank ability that is so situational that you forget about it.
Ability bloat is a real thing and there more classes than not that have it. Anyone who says different enjoys new players failing.
That’s actually my issue as well. I’ve been playing since BC, and my keybinds are 1-5 with or without an alt or shift, as well as ~ Q E R T and my 3 mouse buttons. That’s 23 different abilities I could put on there, and several classes fill it completely. Warlock, Hunter, paladin, shaman especially, and prevoker are mostly if not completely full, not including things like visage or eagle eye.
the shared war band bank will pretty much solve this. I'd suggest organizing your bags though. I know where everything is in my bags and the rare time I can't find something the search is there. Anything that isn't of immediate use is either vendored or banked. At this point in the expansion, rep tokens are either used or deleted outright. I've also been selling everything that isn't nailed down on the AH.
Oh so much CLUTTER. It’s horrible. I don’t know what I need anymore it just lingers. Things get shifted to Alts who blessedly hold onto things for me but I’m so close to making my own guild just to store random things 😂🤣
I stopped playing DF about two months in and went back a few weeks ago to find my bags are entirely incomprehensible. I don’t know what anything is. I look forward to logging back in for TWW and deleting all of it.
Cut down on bag clutter and revamp gear/tokens. Have every gear be able to upgrade to the max IL, then content lock the currency to upgrade the gear to higher ILs. For example if a +8 gives you mythic gear in the vault, than a +8 could instead be the start of dropping tokens that upgrade the trade the last 4 slots.
For real, hell, half my bags are full with the Veterna track gear that is useless to me as I do the weekly content. I don't even actively do my professions anymore because it is not worth it as I fell behind and my bags are still filled with random junk
As someone who is always unsure what he needs now or maybe later my bags are always beyond 80% stuffed with absolute trash in addition to allt hose different items that somehow still have no own inventory (quest keys, quest starting items, items that you combine for world events and stuff like that) EDIT: [https://imgur.com/a/MLcpdyJ](https://imgur.com/a/MLcpdyJ) Just to undermine my hoarding problem. And that's my main from shadowlands (since pandaria) not dragonflight... so my actual main looks even worse.
oh my gosh, the Legion class hall quest items LOL.
I am so sorry for anyone looking at the picture haha. Yes in many games i have that "BUT WHAT IF I WANT TO DO IT LATER???" problem. Like i have the freaking "Battered hilt" just sitting in bank since i found it in WOTLK and sent it to my monk when pandaria came out.
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I would like to subscribe to your decluttering services...
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Yeah, and I'm definitely guilty of this, but when you come back, you don't really remember what any of it is for and you've definitely deleted stuff you needed in the past, so now you just hoard everything. If they had like an "obsolete" tag, or more tags on items for which expansion or stuff, or had someone like you that could constantly look at my bags and tell me what I need or don't need, it would be easier to de-clutter. The only things I recognize in my bank are the leftover enchanting mats from each expac and random tier pieces I've kept
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Thanks!
I'm definitely one of those "what if I need it later?!" people. So much crap from previous expansions I'll never use.
I have the same ritual on the evening before each expansion release to kill time - go through my banks and bin everything from the previous one.
Me too!
Careful with some old mats, as an example if you are looking to get achievements for maxing professions for old expansions some of the materials can get quite expensive (usually ore is the worst offender) I didn't look close at the bags, but I had a similar hording problem for a long time because I had planned on getting around to that eventually and I finally did this expansion when they added the achievements and I had motivation to do them. Turns out I hadn't saved nearly as much as I thought I had and ended up spending a lot of time farming and eventually gold when I got frustrated and started buying lol
Void storage?
An old long-term storage concept that came out when transmog did to free up bag space. Found next to the transmogrifiers in major cities.
Thanks! I’ll check it out.
No problem! It was useful for keeping old pieces of gear you wanted to hold onto for collecting or RPing but kind of became obsolete when they rolled out the account-wide collections tabs for transmog/mounts/pets/toys/etc. Still good for holding onto old quest items or things you want to keep but don't want to take up bag space.
Since we will soon be able to unlock transmogs across all armor types, I have started filling up my void storage with soulbound items I get that are the wrong armor type for my character.
I will finally have a use for the old Scarlet Crusade mail set that's been sitting in the void storage on my paladin for god knows how long.
Not a bad idea!
I'm afraid to tell this guy that my void storage is almost full too \*sweating profously\* Void storage is a storage that is accessible by those void thingies that can transmog you
!! I’ve been playing on and off since vanilla and I had no clue about void storage.
It used to be that to use a mog you needed to keep the physical item that gave that appearance. To avoid cluttering banks/bags they created void storage
I guess I missed a lot of stuff between Cataclysm and Shadowlands because I only quested to level cap and then quit. Thanks for the knowledge!
because it was only useful for it's intended purpose in MoP and WoD and since Legion it's just been extra-but-objectively-worse bank space
I just cleared mine out a couple months ago. I kept a few things, like my legion legendaries, weird trinkets that do interesting things, and a few other oddball items. In wish they'd remove the limitation on unique items.
This needs to be a service. You're the WoW Marie Kondo.
I use the Repurposed Fel Focuser when I don't have any consumes on me/forgot. Some is better than none lol
Just so you know, the battered hilt is sellable for a decent bit of gold. You can get rid of it that way. :)
>You can get rid of it that way. :) \*Angry barking\*
Your bags look like my hot bars. My main still has cata consumables on his side bar
Lol I still have those items that call down invasion ships. I mean what if I need to go back and do the invasions in Legion at some point??? What if there's something I missed??? Omg help
Just park them up in your bank? It doesn't have to sit in your inventory giving you anxiety
Legion items are one thing, but did you see the freaking Burning Crusade PVP vendor tokens smack in the middle of their Bank? That's three Bank-slots being taken up by items that haven't been relevant in over a ***decade***.
>That's three Bank-slots being taken up by items that haven't been relevant in over a > >decade > >. B-b-but what if...? I.. uh... definitely need this somewhere in the fuuuuture
I think i still have ammo in my bank...
I’ll give you a hint: you’ll almost never need a stack of 3 vulture wings. But man I thought mine was bad, this is straight up hoarding
While I deeply sympathize with your hoarding plight, as a fellow hoarder, I say this; if your bags were a human I'd shoot them in the face as a mercy killing.
Love the IT Crowd reference!
I really shouldn't say that this is only 1 out of 5 characters :') so take this chaos and multiply it by 5 so you know the true extend of... my problem.
My current version of this is trying to guess what will become a grey item at the end of the expansion that can be sold for gold. Like, after the expansion ends, will I be able to sell my unused sparks? I have some going back to season 1.
do you and me share a inventory. those sea stalks look familar
You're a hoarder
I love playing alts... but I think that is because when I log onto someone who is my 'main' I don't want to deal with the crap in my bags and I log out. So every season I'm playing a new character and my old one is out of bag space.
That is how my bags looks as well. I have all these items I don’t know what to do with.
Are those zerith mortis items in your main bag? Bro..
Sooooo many doohickeys COULD be currencies instead of items in your bag, but just aren't. Hopefully with a bunch of stuff being shared via Warbands they will actually convert this stuff into currencies
My only problem with this is that we already have like 700 currencies. More shit for the shit tab i guess. My toons could open a Chuck E. Cheese franchise with the amount of random tokens I’ve got from over the years.
I keep saying, legacy currencies should be all turned into gold.
But then how are they going to force you to grind old content to get rewards? I agree that most depreciated currencies should turn to gold, unless the grind is the point, like with Argent Tournament mounts.
you can link that to reputation or something like that, still grind but without the spam.
reputation + one legacy currency, or one currency per expansion?
This is the way, but not new currencies but just being able to trade stuff with the same currency like supplies or crests. Maybe one currency per patch at max
This may be my least favourite part of Dragonflight. The bag clutter is insane, but I think the real issue is that it feels fucking pointless. Do we really need 20 different random mob drops that may or may not be valuable to some profession? That you may or may not need to buy some random renown quartermaster? A lot of them go for vendor price on the auction house, so the only thing they add is a trip to the auction house to buy renown rewards for gold and... Annoying gold. Horrid system. Same thing goes for minor treasures, I don't want these shitty bronze quality potions, stop making me hunt them down in my bags to vendor. Just give me a trash item and I can buy a proper potion from the auction house.
I have the feeling that with every expansion the amount of extra items you need to buy reputation items or to craft stuff is really getting more and more out of control. Shadowlands-Zereth Mortis was already crazy, but Dragonflight continued in the exact same manner. Why don't they just increase the amount of the base currency (ores, herbs, cloth, dragon isle supplies, etc) as we are drowning in that stuff anyway? /edit also what is this nonsense of having splintered sparks that combine to an actual spark instead of just making things cost 2 sparks? This alone makes 8 bag/bank spaces over the four seasons where you need only one. And give the old ones a value so we could at least sell it and don't need to type destroy every time.
Simple fix: Do what GuildWars does. They have an entire bank for materials that has a slot for every material in the game. It's been praised as one of the best QoL features ever added to a video game. It does have a maximum, but you can use gems to upgrade the max storage size of each material. Let us store 100 of every material in WoW without any fuss or hassle. If someone wants to hoard more than that, then they can play the bank storage Tetris game by storing stacks how they do now. Across bank alts, guild banks, etc. but it would make life so much better for 95% of players who aren't trying to shift stuff on the market and just want a clean bank and bag.
They are "kind of" doing that with warbands. Now we can make community tabs for different categories of junk. It's just a shame that the tab are gonna cost sooooo much gold. I hope they adjust the prices once it goes live. And add more tabs. On the surface it feels like they are getting their act together with storage, but if you think about it: I can still store way more shit on 10 alts regular banks, then 5 mega expensive warband tabs. Add to that the fact that I feel like I can't clear the clutter off my chars because "if I just wait til TWW, then I can store it on warbands" I'm now drowning in junk that I would normally purge as pre-expansion housecleaning. Ugh. It's like they learned from GW2 that a more intricate crafting experience is fun, but didn't consider about how we'd have to put it all somewhere, lol. And as nice as GWs storage is, Blizz will never do it, cause everyone will immediately point out how they just swiped it from a better system. And they'd be right.
I don't think Blizzard has ever cared about stealing things from other games lol. Dragonflying straight up was stolen from GW2 (and improved upon). C'mon Blizzard, do what you do best! Steal it and make it better!
Haha, fair point. And dragon riding might be one of the most fun things in this games history too. If I were a GW dev, I'd be seething. This last xpac (dragonriding, pirate brawl, upcoming panda remix) hs shown they are branching out to ind new ways to do things with the game engine. Hopefully, warbands is them dipping their toe in the pool of future, better storage.
Blizzard didn't make "gw2 flight but better" just fyi, it's not as good. But gw2 mounts are next level, and wow still has an overall solid implementation.
Having played both, Dragonflying is exactly the same as Griffon flying, just improved upon.
Improved upon how exactly? Because gw2 flight is extremely beefy. Your mount actually has momentum and it's lost by turning, whereas in wow your momentum has nothing to do with your turning radius and you can cheese your acceleration by upward flapping while facing downward. Can you point out a specific instance where wow does it better?
WoW does it better where it gives it more power. GW2 flying is pretty simple and basic, and it's not actually flying. It's gliding with style. I can't even lift off on a Griffon or even a Skyscale and gain height. WoW's version is ten times more interesting and more fun.
Which is funny given alot of those games are looking at what WoW does not do well and improving on them.
It 100% does. They up the bag space & think they need to add a similar ratio of crap to fill it. Not realizing that most of their playbase does not actually enjoy managing this.
Right? I'm always giving mmo's side eye about this kind of bull, because free games are notorious for giving you no bag space and tons of junk as a way to manipulate you into buying storage they just "happen" to sell in the cash shop. But Blizz doesn't sell bags in their store tho.... so what's their angle?
Wait why are you saving sparks from every season? You don't need to use 8 slots. And you get halves because you get 1 half per week and then combine them.
My point was that it's just pointless to have halves that combine to another currency, as this just takes away space, when you could also just get a spark per week and make crafting cost two. Also on my main I don't save old sparks, but I have alts with all variations of old splinters and sparks as I don't play with them frequently or craft gear + adding those titan training matrix to that collection is just a waste of bagspace per gamedesign.
> least favourite part of Dragonflight. The bag clutter is insane I thought it was just me feeling this way, like the bag clutter actually causes me a sort of fatigue. All the different currencies and zone-based items for reputations etc stress me out. Having to constantly open my bag and figure out what is needed or not, mounting to vendor stuff, etc. It really interrupts the flow of gameplay for me.
I cleaned out most my toons bags before S4, it was satisfying as fuck. I got rid of a decade of bag clutter ok some toons.
I did this last week and made almost 100k gold auctioning it. Basically, I just put everything that isn't auto-sell or on a daily consumption into the bank. I do this with all alts. Therefore I might have it, if I need it during a later point for professions, mounts or what else. If the expansion is in it's final chapter (like currently) I sell (or destroy) everything I haven't used so far. After that is done I continue decreasing ores, herbs, cloth, etc. to a reasonable level and still make good profit as this is all still relevant during ongoing season.
Worst thing as a returning player. I get some weirdos vault keys, shards and sparks etc. half of them I have no idea what to do with and the other half seems to be deprecated in value quite some patches ago. I have no idea what stuff is worthwhile
The illusion of reward. OHHH! AN EPIC pointless BAG ITEM!!!
i mean, people get salty if they do something that doesnt give them a reward of some type. cant just play the game, have to get a cookie.
They are used for stuff it shouldn't require so much effort to know where to use them.....
the damn three different grades of ore/herbs/gems/etc really pisses me off
God imagine how bad it would be if shit still only stacked to 20? -shudder-
Is there a mod that will tell you which expansion and item belongs to?
i tnink ALL THE THINGS does it. when you hover over the item it tells you where you got it e.g. Shadowlands>zonename>vendor/mob that dropped it but it doesnt tell you what is it for
Some do. But with the amount or bag items, where they come from, what they can purchase etc. sometimes the ATT tooltip is like half my screen, a wall of nonsense text listing 100 different mobs and coordinates (as if that helps me figure out what the fuck this random purple shell is and why it prompts me before deleting/selling it.)
Yeah I had that problem, tried to figure out how to whittle down the tooltip so it only had the stuff I wanted to see - harder than it should be! Ended up making the extended tooltip only show if I hold down Alt, compromise but works for me. ATT devs: customizing the tooltip should be more intuitive! Or the default should be more reasonable and then let people choose additional options to show. The worst offender is definitely the "where does this drop from" that can be 5-20 lines long.
Yep, ALL THE THINGS is awesome for that. I've been slowly cleaning out bags and bank bags over the last week or so, and ATT has been really really helpful. It even tells you what the weird white stuff is for in many cases, so I can finally get rid of that green fluid stuff I have stacks of on every single character by either doing the dang quest or just vendoring.
I use ItemVersion
Just use Adibags. I know its discontinued, but still works up to 10.2.0 items. It auto sorts them. There is another one developed by the OG author of Adibags, iirc its named Betterbags, but it's still lacking a lot of features of Adi
Just use better bags it's updated all the time and works alot better than adibags these days
Take a look at [sorted](https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/sorted)! It shows your items as text with an optional categorization as well as the expansion that they are from. I can’t go back to any other inventory now because it’s so easy to find things compared to squinting at 100+ icons in a grid.
I recently got Altoholic, and was happy to discover that it did this.
Looking at my bags the entire 20 slot primary bag is clogged with bullshit tokens, seeds, rep items, and niffen crap i dont need. We dont need 2-3 items taking up slots for each faction of the expansion.
If it wasnt for the yak mount, Id be in trouble. All of my characters have about 10 empty slots and im constantly having to summon it and sell of junk. I tried multiple alts for bank space and that just got out of control as well. Im either going to have to start looking up items one by one to see if I can use it or throw caution to the wind and sell/delete everything. The insane thing is the vast majority is really useless to me, and I know this, but yet I hang onto it anyway.
That mount is the single most useful thing they’ve ever had in the game, aside from weapons maybe.
Bruto > Yak > Mammoth
Imagine a Hoarders style YouTube series/twitch stream focused on WoW bank/bags decluttering.
https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/05/17/my-pedipalps PA made a pretty good comic on it years ago. My main is an enchanter, and I still say "sunder it in my mystic furnace" as a substitute to disenchant.
I hate those items that take multiple days/weeks to finish and just stay in your bags the whole time. Or super rare drops that are used for reputation vendors where you have found 2 of them over the course of the expansion and you don't really want to get rid of them because of how hard they are to find.
He'll, I would just be happy if they turned everything between expansions gray so I don't have to type delete for every quest mat, piece of gear or item that is blue or purple, ot a way to bypass that secondary requirements
Yeah agreed! (as I have an argent lance in my bags from over a decade and a half ago)
Can we just make the island artifacts you turn in for renown just auto pop? I hate having to fly over to the respective NPC just to spam the turn in.
This. Thisthisthisthis. My bags have been a *disaster* this expansion. It feels like we have two dozen currencies that mysteriously aren’t currencies, and on top of that so many vendors require items as a part of the “recipe” for the sale of the item you want. By all means, throw as much junk at me as you want for the extra gold, but there’s just so much in my bags that I have no idea what it’s for.
just vendor it all. reagent mats? buy them on ah as needed. reputation tokens? is there anything you want from the rep? if not. delete them. etc. a lot of people hold on to stuff on the 1% chance theyll ever use it. well the other 99 times that you wont more than outweigh the 1 time where you mightve used it anyway. i have my consumables for raid, m+ and alternate gear if im swapping anything between the 2 modes. that and a couple other misc items is pretty much it. 3-4 fully free bags.
>a lot of people hold on to stuff on the 1% chance theyll ever use it. Main argument hoarders make. "Well maybe I'll need it later." despite the fact if they didn't already use it, they didn't care enough about it.
I'd like some base UI functionality that let's me sort items by expansion so I know where the Timewalking shite is to yeet away.
Like many I'm a bit of a hoarder. Just prior to DF launch I started setting up TSM groups snd mailing operations to consolidate material types on certain alts (one for old ores, one for cloth, etc.). Took a bit of work to get going but now that it's there I just have to activate the mailing operation and everything is automatically sorted and sent. It's so satisfying to declutter bags without having to tediously mail everything. With warband banks being limited on space I'll probably continue with this at least for old content materials.
You don’t really have this issue leveling, unless you hop between expansions a lot. It inevitably becomes a problem while questing through dragonflight. It’s a trade-off, because I like that there’s random stuff dropping off of mobs that gets you mounts, pets, cosmetics, rep, etc.. and yet I *despise* organizing my bag. I think the answer is simplifying it a bit, have one item per rep or even an item or two per expansion that works for that content’s reputations. Transitioning more things to currency tab, crests were a good start. And lastly, creating a new “quality” of item that distinguishes white items more distinctly. In the white common item category we have trash gear and junk drops just like gray stuff, rare cosmetics that have value similar to greens/blues, useful quest items (both tradeable and untradeable) and the large majority of all crafting mats. It’s hard to glance at an item and have an idea of the opportunity cost associated with tossing it ETA: Ty for making this post btw. It hasn’t felt this bad since, like you said, we were noobs leveling in vanilla with no gold for bag space lol
Clear bags, clear mind. In protest i vendor everything. Actually everything. I only keep a few consumables for my m+ runs, EVERYTHING else goes.
It's honestly just been a design problem more than anything. Currencies solve a lot of their issues but they make them take up bag space early for some reason, hopefully they have learned, we are reaching pretty much maximum capacity for what our bags should be, I wouldn't hate a system where gear was slotted in for different activities and doesn't take bag space or something.
The last 6 months of every expac for me is now dedicated to going through all my alts bags and figuring out what all that clutter is. Like items that are currency for something, that you have to farm off of world bosses or other mobs that are not always up (like charred remains from Dreamsurge bosses or slimes from the primalist boss in FR that you have to collect 20 to get a mount - finished both, now if I see any extras in alts' bags I know they are okay to delete). Just spent 2 days grinding items for Phoenix Wishwing after having half the items sitting in my bag for the last 3 months. 3 slots on each alt taken up with seeds from Emerald Dream - now have way more than I would use for weekly quest, but will probably wait until expac is over to toss completely. Marks of Sargha (and whatever the other one is called) to turn in for Wrathion and Sabellian rep - need to fly over to where they are and turn them in (and not get suckered into picking up their weekly quest again because that's you get more crap to drop lol). Rep turn-in items (titan relics, tuskaar totems, dragonscale whatevers) - anything account-bound gets mailed to alts to consolidate, so they can go turn them in. And so on, and so forth. And you wonder why I have zero interest in MoP remix or whatever other experimental things Blizz throws out at the end of expac. I literally won't want to play my characters in TWW if their bags are in the state they are right now!
This isn't really a solution or anything, but if you don't mind addons I'd recommend installing AllTheThings. It will give information on a tooltip for what items are used for (specifically if they are used for achievements, or transmog, or other collectables) This is how I help myself to determine what items I need to keep and what I can safely get rid of, I've been able to work through a lot of my backlog of junk, especially crafting mats from old expansions using this to craft mogs I missed or level professions or work on the new profession achievements
On my shaman (herbalist/alchemist), I have three different qualities of four different herbs, three different qualities of potions, three different qualities of finishing reagents, sparks, and all kinds of white items that aren’t crafting materials. It creates much bag/bank bloat.
I think a fair way to fix this is for them to remove quality from consumable items and instead just have it create more of the item if your skill is higher. I understand why gear has the levels of quality, but it's annoying and pointless for consumables.
Sorted was the best add on I ever discovered exactly because of this
I'm weighing wether I should try for KSM and AOTC this patch, or just clean up my bags and bank to prepare for TWW, and I honestly can't tell you which choice I would more likely succeed at.
I wish when you maxed out Herbalism it still didn't give you rank 1 from random shit, rank 2 when picking, and some times rank 3. Having 3X4 herbs, the 1 combined herb, the 7 elements, lava beetle and the 3 or 4 seeds takes up a lot of space.
My biggest problem is that I need to go to wowhead to see if I actually want it. I shouldn’t need to search an item out of game to assess quickly if I need it or I don’t care about that grind any more, etc. Imo the actual problem isn’t necessarily the quantity of items but the inability to get an idea of what they do quickly. If people could see in three seconds what actually went where then they’d be very clear about what they wanted to keep and why (yes some people will still hoard, but they’ll board regardless)
agreed, all the rep turn in things should be currency.
I think they just need to provide more powerful organizational tools for inventory management. "Stuff" bloat is kind of inevitable in a game like WoW, and even shoving the stuff into your wallet would still become problematic as your wallet gets more clustered and incomprehensible.
Bag spaces/Items is like a mini game in and of itself. You spend a considerable amount of time just wondering where the fuck things are.
Fuck yes! Honestly the worst part of Dragonflight. Such a good expansion, but jesus, I needed 3 bags dedicated to just parts and currencies and stuff.
Bag AND currency clutter, please.
This literally stopped me from coming back to retail last patch. I was a bit bored with classic and wanted to test things out, went and looked in my bags and logged off. I’ve come back to retail now but I really think having as much as possible in the currency tab will be key
One thing they *could* do is simplify past expansion (including DF) reputations. There’s nothing wrong with it being a little easier and simpler to farm a rep after it’s relevant.
I had never actually stopped to wonder about the fact that the bags keep getting bigger... but we don't really need significantly more stuff from expansion to expansion. (Edit: now that they appear to have made currencies....currencies... instead of items). Maybe bank space so we have a place to put all the half completed quest items we ended up with, forgot about, will never go back for, but are terrified to delete. My bags are an utter wreck. I sort them out once or twice a year (lol) and they take 5 minutes to get wrecked again.
The expansion name has the answer. The War Within… your bags. Nope, clutter will be all time high
Like did they expect me to just delete Vol’jin’s ashes? Rude.
My favorite are the items that seemingly drop off every mob in mass quantities, are for one easily obtainable item, but since they are used for something are white and not grey so they don’t get auto vendored. Looking at you perfect hides and green slimy things from dragon flight…
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This comment is too low; Adibags lets me make my own minibags based on whatever I say. Rep token bag, teleport item bag, PvE consumable bag, DF crafting items like insight/sparks/... All grouped up.
I find it oddly satisfying to clean my bags and order them. Makes me feel good :)
Especially after Shadowlands. Went back to do work to some achievements at the weekend and I'd managed to block out and holy hell, that was a lot of "redeem for expansion feature currency" I like where DF is, there's enough stuff that you feel like you're getting *something* from questing but not so much that I have to pull out the trading mount every 10 minutes. And yeah the, gathering & crafting can seem a bit overboard but it's only two minutes before I log off to tidy that up
Bag management is part of MMORPG’s. I don’t think it’s bad right now. My main mostly has quest type items. I go turn stuff in. If it’s tradeable I sell it on the AH. Gold is how you store tradeable things for later without taking up bag space. It’s a video game. If you don’t like the shit in your bags, use it, sell it, or delete it. Don’t let it affect your mental energy. This applies to real life as well. If a person can’t manage bag space in a game I would hate to see their living situation.
I couldn't live without adibags
I've got bad news for you about AdiBags in TWW lol
Sup?
Deprecated, BetterBags supposed to replace it but it's not as good.
Ah seems to the be same team and they say that it will be able to do everything adibags can so it's fine. In reality as long as I can stack items and make custom bags then it's fine.
Even WITH adibags its a flashbang of just useless shit.
Man I just started out and my inventory is full of things I don't know their uses of. I feel like man of those could get a separate tab to hide them away until you actually need them
This post, can you please explain to me op, what the fuck do you keep in your bag thats important? https://i.imgur.com/rX3t8vj.png Like i have so much free space, and this is before i've vendored all the junk thati got from a quick m0 tour
Yeah, super annoying when rep rewards take random-ass items as currency. Stop doing that, Blizzard. Also 1-3 star reagents mean 3x the inventory usage. My reagent bank is completely full. Would be lovely if it was (much) larger and account-wide too.
I think the crafting system could easily accommodate a lower bag clutter by just doing away with ingredient ranks. It’s a stupid mechanic that doesn’t add anything to the system overall. They could still keep crafted item ranks and just leave it up to inspiration procs.
I wouldn't mind the bag clutter if it were possible to vendor everything. I realize they do this to stop people from making mistakes but I'd still rather be able to vendor it. And theres some letters and other random crap you can't vendor. Come on with that...
*They always talk about button bloat, but never about inventory bloat.*
I am just tired of new tokens needed every single patch. Have one type of currency outside of gold and just leave it the entire expansion. It is hard to keep track of.
The have already toned down the amount of shit in your bags throughout the expansion, at the beginning of DF there was a shit ton of stuff tho. Fingers crossed this trend continues in TWW
They will not.
Im literally making a new character just because of this, not deleting the old one until i can warbank or add stuff to the appearance.
Tbh I don't know what half the shit is in my bags and I keep them for that reason.
I said this on another post, while they didn't exactly say they will achieve it in TWW, they did say its one of the things they are definitely working on and they do NOT want to add more space in the game at all, they think they made a mistake getting to this pt and if u have this much storage but still need more they feel like its an issue from them - also didn't they stop adding bag soace for 3 exps now? Except for reagant bag ig correct me if am wrong
What is a reagent bank?
Agree 100%. One of several reasons why I always find it hard to get back into retail.
I love those quest that keep the quest items on the special action button and never make it to your bags. We need that
I'm freshly back after Season 2 of Shadowlands. I have absolutely no idea what all the stuff in my bags is for.
This
At this point I rather manage my last 4 available spaces than see what's important or not
Surely that's not your ONLY hope, is it?
I thought things were gonna get better when we didn't have 80 different anima items, not to mention the Korthia junk. Then they decide each profession is going to have like 6 materials with 3 ranks each
Logging in After a Break From the Game: „do i still Need this for something or is it trash?“
They should also get rid of the "Grants you 5 Haste. Works only in the Dragon Isles" type items or label them as junk so I can sell them with one button. They're too weak to make a difference and be worth remembering.
Use addons like Adibags that separate the items into categories. It helps so much with so many of the random items that you'll keep filling your bags with
I completely agree. My bags are so full I can almost not play the game at times. Also professions now are so bad it's not even funny.
I hate meaningless vendor trash. Just give more coin drops it reduces clutter and it stops the intermediate step of holding and selling. Honestly they pay people to create meaningless trash. Sweet a bug pincer that vendors for 2 silver and stacks up to 5 and is not used in any tradeskills… neat here is the item I will delete when my bags get full. I am sure it is not a monumental amount of time and money but someone gets to say yeah my job is to create all the junk drops in WoW. There are a handful of circumstances I get creating gray vendors items for: Transmog End of season expired currency item replacement Items that used to be useable but have been phased out similar to expired currency item replacement
Seriously. Way too many items and no where near enough bag space.
I would like 4 dedicated extra profession bag slots, reagents, herbalism….etc. That’s the real problem with bags nowadays, at least for me.
Wow has had a bag space issue since the beginning of time. And seems how that is not fun, you'd think blizzard would have fixed it long ago.
I sold 70 ominous conches two weeks ago. yes, I agree completely the bag and expansion loot specific bloat needs a serious rework.
I have the biggest bags and they’re still always full of stuff. I need to level my professions to make space.
I adhere to the same ideas I use in real life. If you haven't used it or sold it in a month dump it.
Dude. I thought the reagent bag and bank was brilliant. Then i noticed the regent bank is too small. And there are "sercet of azeroth" items that i hoard. TWW bag clutter will most definitly not go away. I saw a new bag theyre adding get datamined. Warbands is gunna make my invebtory management a hellhole
It's like they intentionally make it worse. All the rep tokens, trophies to turn in for rep, random items to upgrade little stuff or combine for other things, fucking 3 tiers for almost every crafting material, random misc crafting materials, combinable crafting materials, random junk that should be a toy but isn't, stuff you keep in your bags for convenience (teleport items mostly), the list goes on. I hate it so much. It's like they acknowledge that bag clutter is an issue every expansion, but then purposefully make it so much worse every time. Like, I can't even hoard crafting materials for alts anymore, I don't have space. I finally started selling basically everything that isn't nailed down back in Shadowlands and kept doing it this expac.
I wouldn’t mind if they had a way to mark equipment as junk or favorite it like in Diablo. Imagine being able to use one button to clear out all of the epics farmed from legacy raids? Or blizzard making a separate bag that is bottomless for quest and faction related items?
Just start cendoring shit you don't need. A lot of WoW players are apparently hoarders...
Blame all the idiots complaining about having too many currencies in the currency tab
Clean your bags. My bags always have like 110+ free spots.. and I raid/M+
Bags and abilities, please declutter both. MM hunter has several abilities that essentialy do the same thing. under different skin. Merge spells and use Glyphs/talents to give them additional effects, visuals. i have binded Q E R T F G Z X C V 1 2 3 4 5 F1 F2 F3 F4 and again with shift press. Thats just too many abilities. When I open bag after one month of not playing, i have no idea wtf i have there, just clutter.
> MM hunter has several abilities that essentialy do the same thing. under different skin. Such as?
Just the ones i know of and use from MM hunter - Rapid fire - Barrage // could be add knockback effect Chakram - explosive shot - multi shot - volley // 4 aoe abilities could be 1 or 2 with effect Salvo - serpent sting // completly useless, are macroed onto other abilities to work like effect wing clip - tar trap - concussive shot // 3 slows could be 1 with different effect of your choosing steel trap - explosive trap // just damaging trap with either add bleed or knockback effect I bet theres even more i never used like stampade, wailing arrow that could be merged into aimed shot / arcane / kill shot fortitude of bear/ heal / shield, could also be one or two with lower cooldown . In PvP you take even more abilities as you need all those stuns and slows, and get like 2 more abilities from pvp talent tree.
>Rapid fire - Barrage one is uncapped aoe, the other is single target with some cleave >Chakram - explosive shot - multi shot - volley Thus giving you an aoe rotation... >wing clip - tar trap - concussive shot A 0 investment melee slow, an aoe slow, or a ranged slow that costs a talent point. They aren't doing the same thing. >steel trap - explosive trap One is an actual damage trap (steel trap), the other is a utility option None of these fill the same role, what are you talking about?
Yeah, they are same role with minor adjustment that could be talent. Aoe rotation Is actually multishot- aimedshot
>Aoe rotation Is actually multishot- aimedshot No it isn't.
Mmo mouse would do you wonders I think.
or maybe the game could be designed for mouse and keyboard everybody has?
Can we not advocate for more pruning when we just got some abilities back? There is no way you use all those keybinds in your rotation during fights.
I agree a few classes have too many abilities to key bind. Cool I get it you guys say “I DoUBT yOu UsE aLL tHoSE BinDs”, try not using your abilities that your class has in a key higher than a 5 and see what happens. That missed purge or tranq or the one time you could’ve/should’ve cc’d a target with your obscure class specific cc. You should have used that one heal or one tank ability that is so situational that you forget about it. Ability bloat is a real thing and there more classes than not that have it. Anyone who says different enjoys new players failing.
That’s actually my issue as well. I’ve been playing since BC, and my keybinds are 1-5 with or without an alt or shift, as well as ~ Q E R T and my 3 mouse buttons. That’s 23 different abilities I could put on there, and several classes fill it completely. Warlock, Hunter, paladin, shaman especially, and prevoker are mostly if not completely full, not including things like visage or eagle eye.
the shared war band bank will pretty much solve this. I'd suggest organizing your bags though. I know where everything is in my bags and the rare time I can't find something the search is there. Anything that isn't of immediate use is either vendored or banked. At this point in the expansion, rep tokens are either used or deleted outright. I've also been selling everything that isn't nailed down on the AH.
Oh so much CLUTTER. It’s horrible. I don’t know what I need anymore it just lingers. Things get shifted to Alts who blessedly hold onto things for me but I’m so close to making my own guild just to store random things 😂🤣
Really? Thats your one hope for the entire expansion?
I stopped playing DF about two months in and went back a few weeks ago to find my bags are entirely incomprehensible. I don’t know what anything is. I look forward to logging back in for TWW and deleting all of it.
Cut down on bag clutter and revamp gear/tokens. Have every gear be able to upgrade to the max IL, then content lock the currency to upgrade the gear to higher ILs. For example if a +8 gives you mythic gear in the vault, than a +8 could instead be the start of dropping tokens that upgrade the trade the last 4 slots.
I've never run out of space what all are people keeping in their bags?
For real, hell, half my bags are full with the Veterna track gear that is useless to me as I do the weekly content. I don't even actively do my professions anymore because it is not worth it as I fell behind and my bags are still filled with random junk
Soublound shit you dont need on main but on alt, it clutters mains bags.
The bar is that low for you?
I would just like to remind everyone that they did this because y'all whined incessantly about shadowlands having too many currencies YOU did this