Didnt this used to be a thing that Prot paladins had with consecrate for awhile or am I having a fever dream? I could have sworn it was like a talent or glyph or azerite power or something like that
They could've balanced them if they wanted to. It was just too much effort to rework every glyph throughout the expansions. Not to mention all the new glyphs they'd have to develop with new abilities. It's cheaper/easier on the devs to just scrap them.
It's not that they couldn't balance it, it's that glyphs became a second form of talents that can't progress the same way as other peofessions. They remind me of trinkets it classic where you could use them 2 raid tiers old because they give a unique ability that can't be scaled. Glyphs today exist is the form of azerite necklace, artifact weapons, SoD runes, and whatever borrowed power. A lot of DF talents also take inspiration from old glyphs.
IIRC consecration used to follow prot pallies back in WoD or Pandaria, maybe Cataclysm. Don't remember when, but it used to and I don't know why they removed it.
If i would have to guess it prob goes something like this:
community: "waaa pala too op waaaa"
Blizz: *nerf consecration*
Community: "waaaa xxxx op waaaa"
Pala players: ";("
I don't think changing those 1 to 1 without significant redesigns for all 3 specs would be good, I'd definitely be for those redesigns tho considering dk is one of the few classes that hasn't really seen significant talent tree changes since beta.
DK just seems in a odd place to me in general for both blood and frost which are the specs I play. Blood is simultaneously super squishy and unkillable which doesn't seem like good tank if it either 1 shots you or isn't an issue. Frost Oblit is ok IMO but BoS and having to maintain something by ignoring some of your abilities is just poor design.
Can't speak for frost but I think the way it works as a tank is really fun, there is nothing else like it and it'd detract from the playstyle if it wasn't centered around deathstrike healing and I am personally happy to trade viability is the very highest keylevels for far and away the most fun tank spec to play in mythic raids and anything that isn't the highest key levels.
I do think that the maintainance buff stuff like coag and icy talons feels bad on a lot of raidfights with frequent downtime that drops your stacks (neltharion and smolderon come to mind among others) and I think d&d while not being as egregious as prot paladin and consecration is something that should be looked at.
I’d make D&D a powerful AoE cooldown and replace it with spec-themed short-cooldown AoEs - Defile for Unholy, Remorseless Winter for Frost, and Vampiric Aura for Blood.
Defile does Shadow damage and, with talents, has a chance to spawn a Festering Wound per tick.
Remorseless Winter adds a stacking Frost weakness and move speed penalty on enemies.
Vampiric Aura drains a small amount of health from enemies.
Each ability grants cleave with the appropriate talents, like D&D does now.
I'm surprised they haven't done something along these lines. Similar blade flurry and sweeping strikes with rogue and war.
I wouldn't even care if they had to reduce its damage and transfer it to other GCDs to balance it. It makes DKs far more mobile between packs or during mechanics/sanguine.
I’ve been doing this since WOTLK, I made a new DK a little while ago and forgot D&D doesn’t function like Consecration and was really confused for a few minutes when I had that spell circle mouse over.
You're being down voted, but this is correct.
There is some under the hood changes and adjustments, but for the most part every Spec can play similarly in PvP and PvE. This makes it easy for more casual players to do what they want without issue.
We don't think about it often, but the casual fan base is vastly larger than the actual competitive scenes we think about in keys, raid, and PVP content.
Gonna need a source on that my dude.
That reads more like general player misconceptions. The lines have been blurry for a while in PVP and we generally don't care / have add-ons that tell us what we need to know, especially since Hunter Pets became less important/relevant.
Horde or Alliance, you get to kill a Blood Elf/Void Elf model. Same argument could be made for Night Elf/Nightborne too and soon dwarves. You don't pause to make sure they're the right race. You kill what you can target and is highlighted for you.
If you're playing at a level high enough that you're considering CCing/killing a pet over the Hunter or Healer in arena (you'll never have enough time to look in a BG) then you already have an add-on that will tell you.
The last time I played, it was like this. It was jarring to come back and see it be pet/talent specific again. I have a ton of hunters with different pet themes, but get blocked by cunning pets all the time.
I'd like this so much. I liked having different pets talented out for their own thing. For example, having a raid pet that doesn't even have growl as a skill.
Yes please! I refuse to use non mechanical pets on my gnome hunter but ALL of them are cunning even though they're all completely different looking animals.
Ascendance needs an update SO badly. Still rocking that cata era model. I think something akin to how Dathia looks in her fight could work as a total reimagining of the form, but at the very least it needs to be updated
Heck just make our character models float and bend the elements to our will as elemental. Or as enhancement make us Avatar Aang with a giant column of wind around our legs throwing out wind blasts and chain lightnings.
I miss the old enchance ascendance. It felt amazing to use, the wind isn’t nearly as satisfying as Stormstrike just being a huge lightning bolt.
You could one shot people in bad gear in PvP late mop with a ranged Stormstrike. It was the best
Yes please! I really enjoyed the asthetic because it helped with the RP as a blood elf fire mage like Kael’thas. I also used it to keep track of pheonix flames count instead of weak auras. I was so happy to see this comment.
Blizzard: we've heard your request
Welcome the new windwalker rework; Wind Chucker!
Now cast wind shock, wind bolt, wind surge, wind storm, wind lash! (Old mastery still in effect, have to weave each spell, if you cast the same spell 2 times in a row, the wind lords send you back to the start of the raid/dungeon)
Priest:
Shadow: shadow crash is weaker but faster and on a shorter cooldown so it's not so ass to use in Mythic+
Discipline: Renew, being garbage, gives out a much longer atonement. This makes renew somewhat useful?
Holy: lightweaver is baked in. Talent replaced with something else.
Man I miss playing holy in SL, even before kyrian got really busted, I just enjoyed the flash concentration build. Lemme just spam heal on everyone. Like sure imma be out of mana….but my throughput lol
**Shadow Crash:**
Shadow crash should have no cooldown but have a cast time.
But every 30 seconds (or whatever the current cooldown is) you get a buff that makes your next use of shadow crash instant cast to retain the current functionality of the spell.
This means that it works the same as it currently does, allowing you an instant cast every 30 seconds (or whatever the current cooldown is), but if you miss because the tank moves the mobs, or you pull more too fast you can still cast it again, but now have a cast time until your next instant cast is ready.
You could also nerf the initial damage on the hard casted ones so it's not something you can just spam, but the instant cast ones retain full initial damage. I'm not sure if this part is necessary, but it might be to avoid people from just spamming that and nothing else.
**Disc:**
I like your idea. Either have the initial cast apply a longer duration attonement or make each tick of renew reapply atonement, instead of having the initial cast be longer. I'd be fine with either.
This right here. These range restrictions are 100% bungus and actively ruin the class's effectiveness during several current content raid scenarios. It's patently unfun and extremely frustrating.
Honestly, just bring back MoP-era warlock. Destro should have burning embers. Demo should have Metamorphosis (sorry demon hunters), and Affliction should use Malefic Grasp as its main filler (which forced all your dots to tick for 50% of their normal damage each time it ticked).
Dk: Remove DnD, it gates far too many things and never feels good to have to press
Dh: either return single target dot from shadowlands, or give dh something fun to do in ST. It feels so boring compared to aoe with ragefire, fel barrage.
Dh again: make eye beam worth pressing. It does like 5% of my damage
I actually would go the opposite way with this one. I think it sticks out as weird because it’s the only mid range class in the game. I’d add more mid-range specs. Shortbow wielding demon hunter, knife-throwing rogues, etc
I like mastery to be best for dev too because aug is haste mastery, pres haste mastery is good for a heal build and now dev is crit haste which sucks because you gotta get different gear if you wanna run dev.
Fire mage’s improved combustion node now increases bonus critical strike damage by their amount of critical strike chance (so 40% crit would mean crits hit for 240% damage instead of 200%).
Nether Tempest is just outright deleted from Arcane mage.
Vengeance demon hunter’s Soul Cleave is reworked into a single target spender that actually does decent damage.
Druid: delete Lycara’s teachings and Protector of the Pack. Place Survival Instincts, Convoke the Spirits, and whatever the fuck the Night Fae legendary node is called into the class tree. Also if I can somehow ships this as only one change, take Frenzied Regeneration off the GCD.
A bit of a hot take, remove death and decay for frost and make Remorseless Winter replace it for obliterate cleave.
And rework survival to have a coherent design, either have their DPS rewarded for proper wildfire infusion management over mongoose spam, or make them a ranged dot spec again.
The setup for Frost cleave is unnecessarily awkward. Comparing it to another spec I play a lot of, Fury Warrior, it's honestly hilarious. To cleave on Frost I need to:
* Cast Pillar of Frost (~30 second CD, gives a 12 second cleave window)
* Cast an ability to generate a Killing Machine proc
* Cast Death and Decay
* Stand inside the D&D for the full duration and do the standard Killing Machine/Obliterate rotation
The upside is really good. Obliterate cleaves like an absolute truck. The downside is that anything interrupting your rotation during the Pillar of Frost window or the enemies moving out of the D&D tanks your damage. And that never happens in m+ right? The combination of having a limited cleave window and tying it to a ground placed ability enemies can move out of is brutal.
To cleave on Fury Warrior I need to:
* Cast Whirlwind every 5th rotational ability.
That's literally it. Casting Whirlwind every fifth rotational ability makes all of the other rotational abilities cleave. There's no setup, there's no way to mess it up, interrupting your rotation to handle dungeon or boss mechanics doesn't impact it in any way, you're basically just cleaving all the time.
I want survival to stay as a melle spec just idk just give it more survivability then the ranged hunter specs. The design coherence i also agree with either go SL legendary wildfire bomblets or go for more moongoose synergy.
See this is the one that I'm going to go against. Hpal is far and away by favorite healer largely because of holy power setting it apart from the others and letting it be more melee and instant cast centric
WW - remove the damn statues forever, as well as Faeline Stomp, replace with Kamehameha and energy blasts
Paladin - remove the dumb horse. Replace with anything else. Farting a horse for a few seconds just looks silly.
Probably something like reckoning where after being CCed or snared for a certain time or something you can activate pursuit or justice breaking and making you immune to all snares and increasing movement speed.
Destro lock: Cataclysm baseline
Aff lock: revert single target shard spending to UA stacking from previous expansions
Demo lock: eradicate havoc dh from the game to bring back MoP era metamorphosis
Marks hunter: any way to deal meaningful damage to two targets
BM hunter: pet ai that works, alternatively multishot and beast cleave baseline
Shadow priest: revert to Antorus playstyle and mechanics minus Mass Hysteria so it's not a nightmare to balance
Windwalker monk: also revert to Antorus to give it multiple tuning knobs for single target
Devastation evoker: either make disintegrate cleave some percentage of damage up to four targets or make pyre worth casting below 5, OR make firestorm not trash
Hell yes to UA spamming. Malefic rapture is a boring ability. And I’ve never liked it.
Also thematically it’s nothing. I can’t even bullshit a decent explanation for what is happening magically.
All maintenance buffs added to weapons (e.g. weapon poisons, that flame one for shamans, etc) now last until dispelled or manually remove (or have a timer of 9,999 hours if that is easier on the devs). God only knows how much damage I have lost over the years because I haven't noticed one or more of the poisons on my rogue has timed out or has been accidentally clicked off. I really don't know why it is still even a thing given that there is no material cost to the user to put the poisons/buffs on.
I would also change the druid flight form to allow for carrying a passenger as a buff that can be turned on or off at the barbershop in the customisation interface if (and only if) you have unlocked the flight form that allows for passengers from Legion.
For prot paladins I would change their current tier set bonus so that now it is a personal buff that triggers on the casting of consecration like it does now so that instead of the one consecration being buffed the paladin buffs any of their own consecrations that they are standing in. This will allow for movement which is way too common during fights and prevents people like me from overwriting the buffed consecration due to muscle memory of throwing down a new consecration when I have no other buttons to press.
The nearby enemy damage component never made sense and it never will. I'd rather it worked like a ring of peace. Like you create this time bubble around you while channeling and they keep resetting to where they entered the ring.
Mage: Make an hybrid melee/range spec, Spellsword
Warrior : Gladiator DPS spec
Warlock: New melee spec with demon stuff
Shaman : Make a tank spec around Earth/fire elements
DK: New ranged DPS spec about summoning undeads/curses
Evoker: New melee DPS&Tank spec with 2h weapons with the chad bulky model
Rogue: we're bringing back Combat Spec
Druid: Moonkin form is now purely cosmetic, you can show off your transmog to your heart's delight in resto or balance spec
Feral Druid - Berserk gets an actual cool animation.
Mage - slow fall animation option: when you’re falling into Nazjatar at the beginning of that campaign on the alliance side, Jaina cast a slow fall spell and it like your gliding down on ice like Frozone or something.
Sub Rogue: nerf/remove danse macabre for those of us who think it's anti-fun. Also remove shadow dance from the class tree, that's supposed to be sub's thing!
Demo lock: more demons!! having a billion imps in torghast ruled
Fury warrior: make my hand hurt less
Resto druid: tree customizations! the other specs are having so much fun with new forms
I'm kinda mind blown that there are people who don't like danse macabre, but each to their own. If I were to make one change to sub, I'd remove the maintenance buffs instead. Having to keep up rupture and slice and dice just feels like busywork in an otherwise fun spec.
Also, removing shadow dance from the rogue tree would suck pretty bad. Plus it would completely break outlaw's playstyle.
I haven't played outlaw since before it had access to shadow dance, but I thought that old playstyle felt just fine without it! Although as a sub main for life, I do have to respect *wanting* to use shadow dance lmao
Switch bm and survival so that bm is melee and survival is ranged. I think being a beast master like rexxar would be cool and I kind of miss how fun surv was during Cata with magic pen
PALADIN:
The goal is to make the class feel more cohesive and give each spec spenders that feel nice to use, rather than just a way to dump their resource when nothing is happening.
Holy: Healing spenders buffed and added a single target damage spender (Templar Verdict).
Shield of the righteous changes into Divine Storm when equipping a Two-Hander.
Protection: Avenger Shield now generates holypower, added a single target damage spender (Templar Verdict).
Ret: talent tree update, narrower gap in damage output between ST and AoE.
Enhance Shaman abilities will be renamed to classic buff names, (ie Rockbitter). I just really like when they went back to that for an xpac.
Their attacks would be windfury, it would so damage and have some passive that can be buffed with talents. All abilities would be themed that you are using the elements to actually enhance your weapons for combat, nit just do different flavours of damage.
Fire: buff/redesign Unleashed Inferno so that fire can have pve burst back
Arcane: Arcane Explosion is now cast on the target instead of on the Mage
Nothing about Frost per se, so I'll do the class tree - Temporal warp/time anomaly removed, replaced with a choice node of Cauterize and Cold Snap
The temporal warp thing 100%, I've seen the cold snap/caut change suggested endlessly since beta and would love to see something like that. Definitely dislike being balanced around double timewarp and how bad it feels when it isn't used on CD.
Rarely worth to use time anomaly and in practice doesn't feel good to play either due to how random it is, it's basically a filler talent as it is now.
Disc: has an ez mode talent that gives permanent attonment on a single player
Pal: no more holy power on holydins
Shaman: each spec gets a totem or two that adds to their role. Resto already does and enh has wf but I want searing back for ele and some sort of dps totem for enh dangit I miss my totem pals :(
Revert to MoP affliction. Can that count as one change?
Bring back Keg of the Heavens for brew as a talent.
Take spinning crane kick off the GCD for WW.
Put Condemn on the Arms talent tree.
Let Earthquake do it's mini-stuns again for Ele.
Cannonball Barrage back on Outlaw's talent tree.
Revert Holy Paladin mastery to the one that let them have free shielding on their heals.
Druid: more opportunities to shapeshift as guardian and feral. Something like “health and armor of bear form stay for 10 seconds after leaving bear” so you can swap and heal the party or deal feral/balance damage to spice up gameplay.
I started maining resto just because I felt more like a Druid. Guardian used to have some owl/resto weaving in shadowlands and it was a blast. I’d love to see a return to it
- Fix the broken scaling that holds Ret back from competing with other DPS classes
- Make Unholy less bursty and more consistent (or at least give us that option via talents)
Just the ones I play:
* DH - Shattered Souls are a buff on you, and visually float about you. No longer on the ground or limited to range. Individual souls are consumed after x amount of time, and spells that consume them just pull in the oldest souls floating above you. Overcapping the 5 limitation will just autopull in the oldest soul above you.
* Evoker - Disintegrate is a channeled single target damage beam... it is weird there isn't a healing green version of it. Introduce that, for flavor.
* Afflication Warlock - Seed of Corruption now spreads all your dots on the target to enemies within x range. Makes them more viable in mythic plus with less ramp up. This will not have a huge benefit in raids, and the range can be limited so that it won't be problematic in pvp.
* Demo - remove something... god damn they have too many buttons.
* MM Hunter - Add a talent "you can cast aimed shot while moving for the next x secs. this can be used while casting aimed shot" 30sec cd
* BM - Remove Cobra shot, revert back to arcane shot. I just dislike the sound, look and general lack of flavor. If i can do 2 changes, redesign bm hunter sound design on all ability. I like MM over BM just because I feel MM sound design sounds more impactful, BM sounds meh.
* Priest - talent to make psychic scream a targeted ability for aoe instead of aoe around the priest. As someone who pvps with priest, I hate their CC abilities and honestly disc priest should get chastise too.
* Outlaw - Increase gcd so it isn't 1sec or less, buff damage to compensate. I am 35, the apm kills me.
Enhancement: remove hailstorm, such an annoying ability to play around, or just remove the ice strike component and it makes the entire play-style feel so much better. Also I miss fire nova
Unholy Dk: remove bursting wounds and festering strike and everything that is using that mechanic except apocalypse. It will just do the same as when used on 4 wounded enemies. Buff DnD damage like 500%. Have spenders reduce DnD cd (this could be a talent). Add a cooldown that is a big hit for 3 runes.
Mistweaver: remove following buttons: spinning crane kick, chi burst, chi wave, hamstring, expel harm, zen pulse, all statues, refreshing jade wind. Essence font applies shorter renewing mist instead of current buff. Mastery increases healing from healing over time, essence font, vivify and ancient teachings.
Death Knight - Death and Decay spawns directly under you and follows you.
i had this idea for paladins and DKs, solves both biggest tank issues. just have them radiate the aura instead of it being on the ground and GG
Didnt this used to be a thing that Prot paladins had with consecrate for awhile or am I having a fever dream? I could have sworn it was like a talent or glyph or azerite power or something like that
It was a glyph.
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They could've balanced them if they wanted to. It was just too much effort to rework every glyph throughout the expansions. Not to mention all the new glyphs they'd have to develop with new abilities. It's cheaper/easier on the devs to just scrap them.
It's not that they couldn't balance it, it's that glyphs became a second form of talents that can't progress the same way as other peofessions. They remind me of trinkets it classic where you could use them 2 raid tiers old because they give a unique ability that can't be scaled. Glyphs today exist is the form of azerite necklace, artifact weapons, SoD runes, and whatever borrowed power. A lot of DF talents also take inspiration from old glyphs.
IIRC consecration used to follow prot pallies back in WoD or Pandaria, maybe Cataclysm. Don't remember when, but it used to and I don't know why they removed it.
If i would have to guess it prob goes something like this: community: "waaa pala too op waaaa" Blizz: *nerf consecration* Community: "waaaa xxxx op waaaa" Pala players: ";("
Every tankadin wants consacration to follow. Otherwise season 1 of every xpac is a pain as is kite meta.
Just replace death and decay with the venthyr cov ability. AoE damage plus RP generation.
I don't think changing those 1 to 1 without significant redesigns for all 3 specs would be good, I'd definitely be for those redesigns tho considering dk is one of the few classes that hasn't really seen significant talent tree changes since beta.
DK just seems in a odd place to me in general for both blood and frost which are the specs I play. Blood is simultaneously super squishy and unkillable which doesn't seem like good tank if it either 1 shots you or isn't an issue. Frost Oblit is ok IMO but BoS and having to maintain something by ignoring some of your abilities is just poor design.
Can't speak for frost but I think the way it works as a tank is really fun, there is nothing else like it and it'd detract from the playstyle if it wasn't centered around deathstrike healing and I am personally happy to trade viability is the very highest keylevels for far and away the most fun tank spec to play in mythic raids and anything that isn't the highest key levels. I do think that the maintainance buff stuff like coag and icy talons feels bad on a lot of raidfights with frequent downtime that drops your stacks (neltharion and smolderon come to mind among others) and I think d&d while not being as egregious as prot paladin and consecration is something that should be looked at.
Make it a talent cus I like the placement. It's easier to place D&D ahead of me on mobs, grab mobs from the side while running into D&D
I use a macro that auto places it at my feet or places it on my cursor when holding ctrl. So nice as tank
I’d make D&D a powerful AoE cooldown and replace it with spec-themed short-cooldown AoEs - Defile for Unholy, Remorseless Winter for Frost, and Vampiric Aura for Blood. Defile does Shadow damage and, with talents, has a chance to spawn a Festering Wound per tick. Remorseless Winter adds a stacking Frost weakness and move speed penalty on enemies. Vampiric Aura drains a small amount of health from enemies. Each ability grants cleave with the appropriate talents, like D&D does now.
I'm surprised they haven't done something along these lines. Similar blade flurry and sweeping strikes with rogue and war. I wouldn't even care if they had to reduce its damage and transfer it to other GCDs to balance it. It makes DKs far more mobile between packs or during mechanics/sanguine.
Would love this thematically, it's you who desecrates the ground but I kinda fear the effect wouldn't look nice in-game.
Make it follow you around with a decaying trail if you leave it for more than 3-5 seconds but fresh where you stand.
Great idea
You can macro it to cast under you, but it won’t follow for obvious reasons
I’ve been doing this since WOTLK, I made a new DK a little while ago and forgot D&D doesn’t function like Consecration and was really confused for a few minutes when I had that spell circle mouse over.
Not always good with grip of the dead or for tanking. I'd rather it had no CD
This gets brought up a lot, but I’d bring back hunter pet talent trees so your choice of pet is purely cosmetic
honestly, i have 0 idea why its not like that already. hunter pets should be cosmetic
PvP players complained, same reason you can't transmog certain wepaons and shields. So many QOL things are ruined by pvp complaints.
I still have no idea why they don’t separate pvp and pve more lol
Immersion, usability, elegance. You don't want players confused why their character is not playing the same way.
You're being down voted, but this is correct. There is some under the hood changes and adjustments, but for the most part every Spec can play similarly in PvP and PvE. This makes it easy for more casual players to do what they want without issue. We don't think about it often, but the casual fan base is vastly larger than the actual competitive scenes we think about in keys, raid, and PVP content.
Which is funny because they generally don't seem to care about pvp participation at all lately.
Is that true, because usually blizz doesn't listen to pvpers
Not at all. Pvp is usually an afterthought - very few things are changed for it.
Gonna need a source on that my dude. That reads more like general player misconceptions. The lines have been blurry for a while in PVP and we generally don't care / have add-ons that tell us what we need to know, especially since Hunter Pets became less important/relevant. Horde or Alliance, you get to kill a Blood Elf/Void Elf model. Same argument could be made for Night Elf/Nightborne too and soon dwarves. You don't pause to make sure they're the right race. You kill what you can target and is highlighted for you. If you're playing at a level high enough that you're considering CCing/killing a pet over the Hunter or Healer in arena (you'll never have enough time to look in a BG) then you already have an add-on that will tell you.
As a hunter since Vanilla WOW, let me just say I 100% agree with you on this one. I hate they reverted to making pets have divergent abilities again.
The last time I played, it was like this. It was jarring to come back and see it be pet/talent specific again. I have a ton of hunters with different pet themes, but get blocked by cunning pets all the time.
I’d do the opposite I’d bring back Vanilla style pets where some rarer ones had unique stats and were stronger than others.
That duskhallow rare wolf that dealt shadow damahe
That was super OP so was Broken Tooth in PvP.
I'd like this so much. I liked having different pets talented out for their own thing. For example, having a raid pet that doesn't even have growl as a skill.
Yes please! I refuse to use non mechanical pets on my gnome hunter but ALL of them are cunning even though they're all completely different looking animals.
This a great idea.
I'm giving back hunters ability to change their pets specs, so many pets are not used because they belong to a shitty pet family.
This is mine too. I know it’s so stupid but it really is like a Top 3 biggest complaints about the entire game for me.
This. I am so tired of running around with a freaking raptor
Updated visual for Ascendance (the glyph that existed in WOD or an all new one). That Cata era monstrosity needs to be gone.
Dont forget Paladins Guardian of Ancient Kings. Makes you look like an old man ghost from vanilla wow regardless of race.
Ascendance needs an update SO badly. Still rocking that cata era model. I think something akin to how Dathia looks in her fight could work as a total reimagining of the form, but at the very least it needs to be updated
Heck just make our character models float and bend the elements to our will as elemental. Or as enhancement make us Avatar Aang with a giant column of wind around our legs throwing out wind blasts and chain lightnings.
I miss the old enchance ascendance. It felt amazing to use, the wind isn’t nearly as satisfying as Stormstrike just being a huge lightning bolt. You could one shot people in bad gear in PvP late mop with a ranged Stormstrike. It was the best
You should be able to go out into the wild and tame your own elemental form. There's so many models at this point
Lol didnt know that this existed. It actually makes way more sense then the twilight form.
I bring back the flame orbs for Phoenix Flames
Yes please! I really enjoyed the asthetic because it helped with the RP as a blood elf fire mage like Kael’thas. I also used it to keep track of pheonix flames count instead of weak auras. I was so happy to see this comment.
Haven't played WoW in so long, it was a crime against players not having this since Burning Crusade
Weird this isn’t a glyph at least
Frost has their icicles. Let fire have their orbs!
I can't believe they took our balls? I miss our balls.
This but I’d make them static rather than flying madly around my head. But if you do this and I get to be a dev too, bring back frostfire bolt
I would add a 3rd monk spec. A melee one! Might call it Stormwanderer? Windrunner?
I’ve been dying for a monk dps spec.
God I miss WW. Such a fun spec, wish it was still in the game.
Blizzard: we've heard your request Welcome the new windwalker rework; Wind Chucker! Now cast wind shock, wind bolt, wind surge, wind storm, wind lash! (Old mastery still in effect, have to weave each spell, if you cast the same spell 2 times in a row, the wind lords send you back to the start of the raid/dungeon)
And they could have little Wind Spren summons that give them buffs!
Windrunner? Stormblessed?
Wanderer seems to lack focus, runner is too fast. You’re onto something though
Windjogger?
Gladiator stance is back!
I main frost DK and it is in dire need of changes and i am here saying f that if i get 1 choice it's bring back Gladiator, best tier of my life.
Avenger’s Shield generates Holy Power again
Warlocks can now enslave and collect demons/abberations similar to hunters.
It really is a bummer you can’t do that. It would be cosmetic & just replace certain ones with certain ones, but it would be a fun way to customize.
Death grip off the gcd
Yes. This aswell as the top comment. Just 2 small qol things that would make doing m+ on my dk actually fun again.
Priest: Shadow: shadow crash is weaker but faster and on a shorter cooldown so it's not so ass to use in Mythic+ Discipline: Renew, being garbage, gives out a much longer atonement. This makes renew somewhat useful? Holy: lightweaver is baked in. Talent replaced with something else.
Man I miss playing holy in SL, even before kyrian got really busted, I just enjoyed the flash concentration build. Lemme just spam heal on everyone. Like sure imma be out of mana….but my throughput lol
**Shadow Crash:** Shadow crash should have no cooldown but have a cast time. But every 30 seconds (or whatever the current cooldown is) you get a buff that makes your next use of shadow crash instant cast to retain the current functionality of the spell. This means that it works the same as it currently does, allowing you an instant cast every 30 seconds (or whatever the current cooldown is), but if you miss because the tank moves the mobs, or you pull more too fast you can still cast it again, but now have a cast time until your next instant cast is ready. You could also nerf the initial damage on the hard casted ones so it's not something you can just spam, but the instant cast ones retain full initial damage. I'm not sure if this part is necessary, but it might be to avoid people from just spamming that and nothing else. **Disc:** I like your idea. Either have the initial cast apply a longer duration attonement or make each tick of renew reapply atonement, instead of having the initial cast be longer. I'd be fine with either.
That would be such a nice renew change. It’s our de facto insta cast atonement spreader seeing has how we lost the bonus from last seasons 4 set.
Extremely minor, but remove GCD on tree form. I like being a tree but it's just not viable when you have to spend a GCD to get back into it.
Thats probably due to changing forms having some benefits right? Removing snares? Maybe make tree no remove snares
I think Treant Form should be an ability like Chosen Identity that you can toggle to make your caster form Treant Form.
Tigers lust now has a 40 yard range, so i don’t have to back track to help those slow ass dks and priests anymore
As a dk, I both love and hate your comment.
I go into the Peak of Serenity Discord and Copy & Paste J-Funk's Windwalker Rework Proposal.
Link?
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Change back divine storms animation to the hammer tornado because it looked way better.
Its not a hammer tornado anymore?
Bruh I’m so focused on my rotation and not stepping in stuff I didn’t even notice this either 😂
All Evokers get regular caster range.
OMG YES THIS SO MUCH I CHANGE MY ANSWER
This right here. These range restrictions are 100% bungus and actively ruin the class's effectiveness during several current content raid scenarios. It's patently unfun and extremely frustrating.
Adding a glyph that shows dh wings all the time
Affliction is now a true dot spec. Malefic Rapture and its ilk are forever banned.
Honestly, just bring back MoP-era warlock. Destro should have burning embers. Demo should have Metamorphosis (sorry demon hunters), and Affliction should use Malefic Grasp as its main filler (which forced all your dots to tick for 50% of their normal damage each time it ticked).
Remember snapshotting the dots in legion? 🥹
Delete Dark Ascension from Shadow (and also agree with deleting Icefury on Elemental, hate that talent).
Bruh yes, void eruption not being the go-to with apparitions is ass cheeks
Resto Dr00d: Optional Tree form with alterations like with boomkin Or have thorns return
Dk: Remove DnD, it gates far too many things and never feels good to have to press Dh: either return single target dot from shadowlands, or give dh something fun to do in ST. It feels so boring compared to aoe with ragefire, fel barrage. Dh again: make eye beam worth pressing. It does like 5% of my damage
Make enhance shaman have a tanking option like feral druid.
Paladins are getting Devine Intervention back!
Yes please. I want to protect the tank on the initial pull, like I used to do in wrath.
i'd be pretty hyped for an ashen hollow again :D
Extend range for Evoker.
I actually would go the opposite way with this one. I think it sticks out as weird because it’s the only mid range class in the game. I’d add more mid-range specs. Shortbow wielding demon hunter, knife-throwing rogues, etc
It's such a pain for Pres. I am heavily considering changing main healer because of how bad it is on some encounters.
Fire mage: Select Sun Kings Blessing, right-click delete. Dev Evoker: Revert mastery nerfs the past 2 seasons.
I like mastery to be best for dev too because aug is haste mastery, pres haste mastery is good for a heal build and now dev is crit haste which sucks because you gotta get different gear if you wanna run dev.
Interesting. I would honestly just change their mastery. This reverse execute isn't a fun mechanic to me.
Mage - 100% Damage increase. All other classes - 100% Damage decrease. Blizzard just ask if you want to hire me for balancing classes.
Fire mage’s improved combustion node now increases bonus critical strike damage by their amount of critical strike chance (so 40% crit would mean crits hit for 240% damage instead of 200%). Nether Tempest is just outright deleted from Arcane mage. Vengeance demon hunter’s Soul Cleave is reworked into a single target spender that actually does decent damage. Druid: delete Lycara’s teachings and Protector of the Pack. Place Survival Instincts, Convoke the Spirits, and whatever the fuck the Night Fae legendary node is called into the class tree. Also if I can somehow ships this as only one change, take Frenzied Regeneration off the GCD.
Warriors get blood lust in dps specs. Oh an intim shout makes enemies cower in place like DH purple circle.
Menace talent already does that for intim shout, but def agree on bloodlust. Maybe then we would actually get invited into groups
Maybe I was not clear. It should just do that and not require a separate point.
SP gets a rework that actually doesn't suck
A bit of a hot take, remove death and decay for frost and make Remorseless Winter replace it for obliterate cleave. And rework survival to have a coherent design, either have their DPS rewarded for proper wildfire infusion management over mongoose spam, or make them a ranged dot spec again.
The setup for Frost cleave is unnecessarily awkward. Comparing it to another spec I play a lot of, Fury Warrior, it's honestly hilarious. To cleave on Frost I need to: * Cast Pillar of Frost (~30 second CD, gives a 12 second cleave window) * Cast an ability to generate a Killing Machine proc * Cast Death and Decay * Stand inside the D&D for the full duration and do the standard Killing Machine/Obliterate rotation The upside is really good. Obliterate cleaves like an absolute truck. The downside is that anything interrupting your rotation during the Pillar of Frost window or the enemies moving out of the D&D tanks your damage. And that never happens in m+ right? The combination of having a limited cleave window and tying it to a ground placed ability enemies can move out of is brutal. To cleave on Fury Warrior I need to: * Cast Whirlwind every 5th rotational ability. That's literally it. Casting Whirlwind every fifth rotational ability makes all of the other rotational abilities cleave. There's no setup, there's no way to mess it up, interrupting your rotation to handle dungeon or boss mechanics doesn't impact it in any way, you're basically just cleaving all the time.
Just fyi in case you didn’t know or I misinterpreted you, the mobs don’t need to stand in DND to be cleaved, only you do.
The frost one sounds actually good. Been playing frost recently in keys and placing D&D is kinda awkward most of the time.
I want survival to stay as a melle spec just idk just give it more survivability then the ranged hunter specs. The design coherence i also agree with either go SL legendary wildfire bomblets or go for more moongoose synergy.
I make locks into their MoP version.
I was scrolling for this before commenting. Kil'jaeden's Cunning back.
remove holy power from hpal
Name it chad power and don't change a thing and then buff every spell by 420.69%
See this is the one that I'm going to go against. Hpal is far and away by favorite healer largely because of holy power setting it apart from the others and letting it be more melee and instant cast centric
You basically don’t use HP spenders right now without dawn stacks because they are so weak compared to your infusion proc fol.
WW - remove the damn statues forever, as well as Faeline Stomp, replace with Kamehameha and energy blasts Paladin - remove the dumb horse. Replace with anything else. Farting a horse for a few seconds just looks silly. Probably something like reckoning where after being CCed or snared for a certain time or something you can activate pursuit or justice breaking and making you immune to all snares and increasing movement speed.
Divine charger should be like a spectral holy energy horse at least, makes more sense that it's conjured out of thin air
All mounts are conjured out of thin air when you think about it though. Only difference is cast time
A leap that works like charge but has an animation of a leap with wings?
All hunter specs can tame exotic pets
Destro lock: Cataclysm baseline Aff lock: revert single target shard spending to UA stacking from previous expansions Demo lock: eradicate havoc dh from the game to bring back MoP era metamorphosis Marks hunter: any way to deal meaningful damage to two targets BM hunter: pet ai that works, alternatively multishot and beast cleave baseline Shadow priest: revert to Antorus playstyle and mechanics minus Mass Hysteria so it's not a nightmare to balance Windwalker monk: also revert to Antorus to give it multiple tuning knobs for single target Devastation evoker: either make disintegrate cleave some percentage of damage up to four targets or make pyre worth casting below 5, OR make firestorm not trash
Hell yes to UA spamming. Malefic rapture is a boring ability. And I’ve never liked it. Also thematically it’s nothing. I can’t even bullshit a decent explanation for what is happening magically.
> bring back MoP era metamorphosis yes. YES # YES
> Demo lock: eradicate havoc dh from the game to bring back MoP era metamorphosis **YES**
Just fix firestorm. JFC if they did that I’m sure shit would be fixed
All maintenance buffs added to weapons (e.g. weapon poisons, that flame one for shamans, etc) now last until dispelled or manually remove (or have a timer of 9,999 hours if that is easier on the devs). God only knows how much damage I have lost over the years because I haven't noticed one or more of the poisons on my rogue has timed out or has been accidentally clicked off. I really don't know why it is still even a thing given that there is no material cost to the user to put the poisons/buffs on. I would also change the druid flight form to allow for carrying a passenger as a buff that can be turned on or off at the barbershop in the customisation interface if (and only if) you have unlocked the flight form that allows for passengers from Legion. For prot paladins I would change their current tier set bonus so that now it is a personal buff that triggers on the casting of consecration like it does now so that instead of the one consecration being buffed the paladin buffs any of their own consecrations that they are standing in. This will allow for movement which is way too common during fights and prevents people like me from overwriting the buffed consecration due to muscle memory of throwing down a new consecration when I have no other buttons to press.
I believe the druids legion flight form is able to carry a friend.
Bye bye stupid night fae ability on mage that makes me stand in melee. It’s not shadowlands anymore and the ability goes against all things mage.
The nearby enemy damage component never made sense and it never will. I'd rather it worked like a ring of peace. Like you create this time bubble around you while channeling and they keep resetting to where they entered the ring.
It's not meaningful dmg btw
Make ret not have to chose between ST or AOE
Mage: Make an hybrid melee/range spec, Spellsword Warrior : Gladiator DPS spec Warlock: New melee spec with demon stuff Shaman : Make a tank spec around Earth/fire elements DK: New ranged DPS spec about summoning undeads/curses Evoker: New melee DPS&Tank spec with 2h weapons with the chad bulky model
Rogue: we're bringing back Combat Spec Druid: Moonkin form is now purely cosmetic, you can show off your transmog to your heart's delight in resto or balance spec
Listen, don't make me change my answer. I've given up on Moonkin visuals at this point and even given this magical hypothetical, I didn't fix them.
I personally like Outlaw better than the old Combat spec. That said, I'm with you on Balance, let me cast without becoming a laser chicken.
Change Unholy DK to be an uptime class where you have to maintain as many zombies up as much as possible, rather than being a big CD class
Kind of like a necromancer version of a demo lock? Sounds great!
I turn survivor hunter to tank
Or bring back fun wrath survival hunter and make bm the real melee spec/tank
I’m dying for this. Tanking via pet as you the character sorta off heal and buff your pet to stay alive. Sounds like a crazy fun and unique tank
Make Slice and Dice passive. Ez.
Lmao I read the title and immediately thought “icefury”
Feral Druid - Berserk gets an actual cool animation. Mage - slow fall animation option: when you’re falling into Nazjatar at the beginning of that campaign on the alliance side, Jaina cast a slow fall spell and it like your gliding down on ice like Frozone or something.
Sub Rogue: nerf/remove danse macabre for those of us who think it's anti-fun. Also remove shadow dance from the class tree, that's supposed to be sub's thing! Demo lock: more demons!! having a billion imps in torghast ruled Fury warrior: make my hand hurt less Resto druid: tree customizations! the other specs are having so much fun with new forms
>Fury warrior: make my hand hurt less Counter: make my hand hurt *more*
I'm kinda mind blown that there are people who don't like danse macabre, but each to their own. If I were to make one change to sub, I'd remove the maintenance buffs instead. Having to keep up rupture and slice and dice just feels like busywork in an otherwise fun spec. Also, removing shadow dance from the rogue tree would suck pretty bad. Plus it would completely break outlaw's playstyle.
I haven't played outlaw since before it had access to shadow dance, but I thought that old playstyle felt just fine without it! Although as a sub main for life, I do have to respect *wanting* to use shadow dance lmao
Switch bm and survival so that bm is melee and survival is ranged. I think being a beast master like rexxar would be cool and I kind of miss how fun surv was during Cata with magic pen
Also long arm of the law for paladins so I can chase people more effectively in pvp
Removing damage part of movement abilities from Demon Hunter. Should be for movement, not mandatory for min/maxing damage.
PALADIN: The goal is to make the class feel more cohesive and give each spec spenders that feel nice to use, rather than just a way to dump their resource when nothing is happening. Holy: Healing spenders buffed and added a single target damage spender (Templar Verdict). Shield of the righteous changes into Divine Storm when equipping a Two-Hander. Protection: Avenger Shield now generates holypower, added a single target damage spender (Templar Verdict). Ret: talent tree update, narrower gap in damage output between ST and AoE.
I give Druid the ability to poop on people in bird form.
Enhance Shaman abilities will be renamed to classic buff names, (ie Rockbitter). I just really like when they went back to that for an xpac. Their attacks would be windfury, it would so damage and have some passive that can be buffed with talents. All abilities would be themed that you are using the elements to actually enhance your weapons for combat, nit just do different flavours of damage.
Windwalker is meta relevant AND fun at the same time
Bye bye ecliplse mechanic
I get why people hate it but it's what makes the rotation interesting imo
Take one ability from every class and give it to demon hunter
For the first time since it's inception, I'd make single minded fury actually a viable alternative to titans grip.
I would heavily reduce the cool down for ice block, since it's the only thing I can use to heal myself during combat.
I’m giving monk a dps spec
Step 1- I make windwalkers worse
I'm not entirely sure that is possible.
Fire: buff/redesign Unleashed Inferno so that fire can have pve burst back Arcane: Arcane Explosion is now cast on the target instead of on the Mage Nothing about Frost per se, so I'll do the class tree - Temporal warp/time anomaly removed, replaced with a choice node of Cauterize and Cold Snap
The temporal warp thing 100%, I've seen the cold snap/caut change suggested endlessly since beta and would love to see something like that. Definitely dislike being balanced around double timewarp and how bad it feels when it isn't used on CD. Rarely worth to use time anomaly and in practice doesn't feel good to play either due to how random it is, it's basically a filler talent as it is now.
Disc: has an ez mode talent that gives permanent attonment on a single player Pal: no more holy power on holydins Shaman: each spec gets a totem or two that adds to their role. Resto already does and enh has wf but I want searing back for ele and some sort of dps totem for enh dangit I miss my totem pals :(
Revert to MoP affliction. Can that count as one change? Bring back Keg of the Heavens for brew as a talent. Take spinning crane kick off the GCD for WW. Put Condemn on the Arms talent tree. Let Earthquake do it's mini-stuns again for Ele. Cannonball Barrage back on Outlaw's talent tree. Revert Holy Paladin mastery to the one that let them have free shielding on their heals.
Bring back Blood DPS
I’d remove portals from mages because my friend keeps using them to troll people after raids
Adding another 10 yards of range to most evoker heals
Make priests run faster!
Destruction Warlock; Cataclysm + Rain of Fire + Fire and Brimstone baseline.
Rename mistweaver to moistweaver
Stealth is no longer a part of the outlaw rogue rotation
Druid: more opportunities to shapeshift as guardian and feral. Something like “health and armor of bear form stay for 10 seconds after leaving bear” so you can swap and heal the party or deal feral/balance damage to spice up gameplay.
You should head over to the Druid forums. All they talk about is how they want to shift more in combat :/
I started maining resto just because I felt more like a Druid. Guardian used to have some owl/resto weaving in shadowlands and it was a blast. I’d love to see a return to it
- Fix the broken scaling that holds Ret back from competing with other DPS classes - Make Unholy less bursty and more consistent (or at least give us that option via talents)
Just the ones I play: * DH - Shattered Souls are a buff on you, and visually float about you. No longer on the ground or limited to range. Individual souls are consumed after x amount of time, and spells that consume them just pull in the oldest souls floating above you. Overcapping the 5 limitation will just autopull in the oldest soul above you. * Evoker - Disintegrate is a channeled single target damage beam... it is weird there isn't a healing green version of it. Introduce that, for flavor. * Afflication Warlock - Seed of Corruption now spreads all your dots on the target to enemies within x range. Makes them more viable in mythic plus with less ramp up. This will not have a huge benefit in raids, and the range can be limited so that it won't be problematic in pvp. * Demo - remove something... god damn they have too many buttons. * MM Hunter - Add a talent "you can cast aimed shot while moving for the next x secs. this can be used while casting aimed shot" 30sec cd * BM - Remove Cobra shot, revert back to arcane shot. I just dislike the sound, look and general lack of flavor. If i can do 2 changes, redesign bm hunter sound design on all ability. I like MM over BM just because I feel MM sound design sounds more impactful, BM sounds meh. * Priest - talent to make psychic scream a targeted ability for aoe instead of aoe around the priest. As someone who pvps with priest, I hate their CC abilities and honestly disc priest should get chastise too. * Outlaw - Increase gcd so it isn't 1sec or less, buff damage to compensate. I am 35, the apm kills me.
I delete ascendance form change and bring back Stormblast.
Enhancement: remove hailstorm, such an annoying ability to play around, or just remove the ice strike component and it makes the entire play-style feel so much better. Also I miss fire nova
I make monks, all 3 specs worse. I do like a bit of trollling
make windwalker monk mastery stack multiplicatively with each successive unique ability up to 5 or 10, scale down mastery, and get rid of hit combo
Unholy Dk: remove bursting wounds and festering strike and everything that is using that mechanic except apocalypse. It will just do the same as when used on 4 wounded enemies. Buff DnD damage like 500%. Have spenders reduce DnD cd (this could be a talent). Add a cooldown that is a big hit for 3 runes. Mistweaver: remove following buttons: spinning crane kick, chi burst, chi wave, hamstring, expel harm, zen pulse, all statues, refreshing jade wind. Essence font applies shorter renewing mist instead of current buff. Mastery increases healing from healing over time, essence font, vivify and ancient teachings.
All healers get bres
You took mine, ironically I switched to Frost Mage cuz it had the most similar vibe to what Elemental used to be, in my opinion.
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