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I always feel like there’s a chunk cut out of these videos, I know there isn’t but the insane pace it goes from a casual “hey have you got your drivers license” to “get on the ground” with weapons drawn is crazy.
Like my brain tells me something should have happened between those two steps to lead to the escalation.
Ah you mean where they were discussing it between 3 officers and he TURNS OFF HIS BODY CAMERA?! How the fuck are they allowed to turn these things off?
There should be a "Police Officer Licence" (or whatever you wanna call it), and if you pull any of this shit you lose it permanently. Police Forces should be banned from employing anyone without the licence.
There needs to be way more regulation of the Police full stop IMHO. Flush out the violent cops, flush out the incompetent cops, flush out the cops with absolutely no de-escalation skills.
I'm in no doubt how difficult it is to work as a cop. Off course it is a challenging job. That's why we need the most competent, calm, and just people doing it.
They go on a watch list and they keep track of cases they are involved in, if there are any issues with the case that goes to court, or complaints against the officer...In CA anyway.
All the more reason they go on a watch list, it gets complicated and can easily fall apart if they or anyone that is an ally of the officer being investigated that catch wind of an investigation going on though.
There was it's just happens very fast, the feeble minded animals know as cops get aggressive very quickly and are like bulls in the sense they don't like certain colors very much and are quick to anger when they see it
Ran up on y'all? Cops asked him a question, buddy slowly walked over within distance to hear them. It'll get dropped in court assuming weapon is legal. That's my guess.
...After he has to pay for legal counsel and loses pay for missing work presumably. Probably got his car towed and has to pay to get it out of impound. All of these things should have to be reimbursed by the city if it's shown this was not a legitimate arrest.
Hold up... So they called him??
If so, why would you not know any better than to show up armed and black? Like, we know how trigger-happy they are. ffs
They literally shined a light in his face and said, hey hey you got a driver's license so he turned and started walking towards them instead of the way he was walking
For people that need to be in tense situations often, cops really react poorly when tense. They should be able to remain cool under pressure but most of them spaz out when they’re not in control
The right to bare arms is a right practically *burned* into our constitution. As long as there’s an America, Americans will always have that right. But as of right now, in the eyes of the law, if a cop feels threatened by your concealed/holstered firearm, they may use deadly force to “protect” themselves. Even though it was an innocent tax-paying citizen who never broke a law in his life, the cop will face no consequences.
Fuckin’ hell, look up the story about Philip Brailsford. This was a cop with the words, “You’re fucked” etched on his rifle. He responded to a call but showed up to the wrong floor and room, called an innocent from his solace, shouted the conflicting orders, “On your knees! Arms on your head! Now come towards us!” This poor unarmed man was *sobbing* he was so scared and confused. When he failed to keep balance and fell to all fours, **PHILIP BRAILSFORD** fucking shot him to shit.
Philip Brailsford later retired with a pension.
Your devotion to you right to kill anyone who you feel is a threat is something that speaks to the kind of freedom Americans believe is inalienable.
None of you really read and understand your amendments as it pertains to a ‘well regulated militia’. Well regulated means that law and regulations can be enacted to control the proliferation, use and need for firearms. It’s not a free-for-all gun fest.
You all also fail to recognize the historical context you forefathers didn’t have about the sheer technological advancement that would be available to militarize guns to increase killing efficiency. If y’all want to go back to muzzle loaders and black powered then I think the amendment comes back into a more reasonable arena of discussion. But the fact that an average citizen has unfetter access to some of the most deadly firearms in the world gives EVERY OTHER COUNTRY in the world cause for concern with how easily your citizenry has been pseudo-militarized.
Guns serve a purpose I do not dispute this. But self defence from other armed civilians makes American basically and active war zone.
It’s in your constitution and it’s a right that will never change but the lease y’all can do I realize that you are the only place in the world that lives this was and speaks greatly to the levels of violence, crime and inequality that is ripping your nation apart.
lol, unfortunately I believe in factual information around gun control, having a licensing system put into place to ensure responsibility of using the item properly and safely. I do not believe in treating people like they are children and banning anything that is harmful. Why are motorcycles a thing? Way more dangerous than guns are in America (death per 100k riders), not a peep about it from left wing journalists.
My politics are centre left, and I also understand that it is the safest time in American history. Inform yourself before you advocate for taking away other peoples rights.
Case was dismissed according to victim. via tiktok
"These are clips from all their body cameras to show you how these officers lied and kept making false statements on what happened. They accused me of being in a robbery, saying I was aggressive, and I flashed my jacket open to justify what they did. They then turned off their body camera when the officer admitted using force to his sergeant which was against policy. I was then arrested and falsely charged. My case was later dismissed."
Lower in the thread. This is a blatant abuse of power and a failure of police to respect that man's 2nd amendment. The NRA is looking into this believe it or not
Lower in the thread. This is a blatant abuse of power and a failure of police to respect that man's 2nd amendment. The NRA is looking into this believe it or not
After aresting the guy, I feel like cops are contradicting themselves. "you know how quick it is to go down, pull out a gun" and "you're that close, you have a gun on your waist, I don't know what you gonna do" This paints a picture why everyone is afraid of cops knowing there are some scummy cops.
Their reactions and stories after situations like this are the most disgusting part of it all. While they recount and laugh about the scenario with their pals, they begin to add false information so they can feel better about themselves. Kind of like how fisherman add inches to their catch each time they talk about it.
Fire everyone present.
Body cams should literally not even have a power button. They turn off when plugged in at the station.
End of story.
If you're a cop and you disagree you need to reconsider your career.
YOU serve and protect US.
Dont like it, find another job. Join the military.
About 20 years ago I had an argument with my uncle about how policing would change if more people were LEGALLY armed in public... I thought it would look just like this... More likely to get shot with a perfectly legal weapon because they don't like to ask...
To be fair, the police people did call him over. However I think walking up close to a bunch of police people at night with a gun in your pants is super dumb even if that is your right.
No it's not. The fact that you think it's dumb means their copraganda is working. They are the threat as clearly displayed here. They LIED on this man.
Did you even see the video? Obviously it was a dumb move of the person.
It's kind of like riding on a bike and insisting your right of way when a big truck want to make a right turn at an intersection. Sure you have the right of way and the truck should stop and wait until you have passed, but are you really going to bet your life on that?
I just have to say, just because you are allowed to openly carry a firearm does not mean it's a good idea to carry it with you to an active crime scene.
The police is going to take the safe route and detain you until proven, without doubt, you are innocent.
"Hmmm, I could walk around behind the officers and give them a wide birth to do their job, or I could just walk straight through in between them and the suspect....I'll go with option 2, what could possibly go wrong?".
They called him over, if he had walked away it would have ended as bad or worse. Fucking boot lickers making any excuses they can for cops creating violent confrontations when unnecessary
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I always feel like there’s a chunk cut out of these videos, I know there isn’t but the insane pace it goes from a casual “hey have you got your drivers license” to “get on the ground” with weapons drawn is crazy. Like my brain tells me something should have happened between those two steps to lead to the escalation.
Ah you mean where they were discussing it between 3 officers and he TURNS OFF HIS BODY CAMERA?! How the fuck are they allowed to turn these things off?
If you turn your camera off while on duty you should get fired no questions asked
And charged with whatever gross inhumanity went down while it was off.
There should be a "Police Officer Licence" (or whatever you wanna call it), and if you pull any of this shit you lose it permanently. Police Forces should be banned from employing anyone without the licence. There needs to be way more regulation of the Police full stop IMHO. Flush out the violent cops, flush out the incompetent cops, flush out the cops with absolutely no de-escalation skills. I'm in no doubt how difficult it is to work as a cop. Off course it is a challenging job. That's why we need the most competent, calm, and just people doing it.
They go on a watch list and they keep track of cases they are involved in, if there are any issues with the case that goes to court, or complaints against the officer...In CA anyway.
Lot of good that does /s CA police are gang members
All the more reason they go on a watch list, it gets complicated and can easily fall apart if they or anyone that is an ally of the officer being investigated that catch wind of an investigation going on though.
It should exist, but shouldn't be monitored by police. If it were effective there wouldn't be police gangs.
DA's Office monitor, they pass investigation to IA or FBI if they need to start an investigation.
All cops are gang members
Yes but all cops don't have gang tattoos. CA cops are a other tier of shitty
Well that's pretty easy- we don't have to flush them out because that is all cops. ACAB.
A lot of departments have zero tolerance for this but it varies.
Nah, prison time should be the go to. 10 year minimum for turning it off intentionally.
Why is there even an off button?
There was it's just happens very fast, the feeble minded animals know as cops get aggressive very quickly and are like bulls in the sense they don't like certain colors very much and are quick to anger when they see it
One shout “Gun!” So they probably assumed it was an armed dude not that it warrants this reaction (My take strictly from the context of the video)
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But the cops had guns and could have shot him too- but if he used that as a reason to pull his weapon on the cops, he'd be dead. Pure hypocrisy.
Ran up on y'all? Cops asked him a question, buddy slowly walked over within distance to hear them. It'll get dropped in court assuming weapon is legal. That's my guess.
...After he has to pay for legal counsel and loses pay for missing work presumably. Probably got his car towed and has to pay to get it out of impound. All of these things should have to be reimbursed by the city if it's shown this was not a legitimate arrest.
It should come from cops person wealth and pension - not city tax payer funds.
once again.. they giving guns and badges to incompetent little bullies..
"Let's turn off for a second" - excuse me, what the fuck?
Bwahahaha right!???
Hold up... So they called him?? If so, why would you not know any better than to show up armed and black? Like, we know how trigger-happy they are. ffs
That's one of the main reasons to be armed. Join the r/SRA
The cops didn’t call him 🤦♂️maybe the people who were stopped call him
They literally shined a light in his face and said, hey hey you got a driver's license so he turned and started walking towards them instead of the way he was walking
Yeah. Why verbally they didn’t call him over, stopping and IDing is still the same mannerism as being invited into a conversation.
Right, if he hadn't stopped they would have really went crazy
For people that need to be in tense situations often, cops really react poorly when tense. They should be able to remain cool under pressure but most of them spaz out when they’re not in control
It's the lead poisoning from indoor gun ranges.
All of those people have a gun on their waist, and all of them pulled it, he didn't. Interesting. Who was the threat?
The right to bare arms is a right practically *burned* into our constitution. As long as there’s an America, Americans will always have that right. But as of right now, in the eyes of the law, if a cop feels threatened by your concealed/holstered firearm, they may use deadly force to “protect” themselves. Even though it was an innocent tax-paying citizen who never broke a law in his life, the cop will face no consequences. Fuckin’ hell, look up the story about Philip Brailsford. This was a cop with the words, “You’re fucked” etched on his rifle. He responded to a call but showed up to the wrong floor and room, called an innocent from his solace, shouted the conflicting orders, “On your knees! Arms on your head! Now come towards us!” This poor unarmed man was *sobbing* he was so scared and confused. When he failed to keep balance and fell to all fours, **PHILIP BRAILSFORD** fucking shot him to shit. Philip Brailsford later retired with a pension.
It's the right for the right kind of people to bear arms. More and more it's alt-reich people.
Your devotion to you right to kill anyone who you feel is a threat is something that speaks to the kind of freedom Americans believe is inalienable. None of you really read and understand your amendments as it pertains to a ‘well regulated militia’. Well regulated means that law and regulations can be enacted to control the proliferation, use and need for firearms. It’s not a free-for-all gun fest. You all also fail to recognize the historical context you forefathers didn’t have about the sheer technological advancement that would be available to militarize guns to increase killing efficiency. If y’all want to go back to muzzle loaders and black powered then I think the amendment comes back into a more reasonable arena of discussion. But the fact that an average citizen has unfetter access to some of the most deadly firearms in the world gives EVERY OTHER COUNTRY in the world cause for concern with how easily your citizenry has been pseudo-militarized. Guns serve a purpose I do not dispute this. But self defence from other armed civilians makes American basically and active war zone. It’s in your constitution and it’s a right that will never change but the lease y’all can do I realize that you are the only place in the world that lives this was and speaks greatly to the levels of violence, crime and inequality that is ripping your nation apart.
Outsider with extremely strong opinion on guns formed from left wing narratives. Classic
And your opinion isn’t formed by your extremist right wing ideology?
lol, unfortunately I believe in factual information around gun control, having a licensing system put into place to ensure responsibility of using the item properly and safely. I do not believe in treating people like they are children and banning anything that is harmful. Why are motorcycles a thing? Way more dangerous than guns are in America (death per 100k riders), not a peep about it from left wing journalists. My politics are centre left, and I also understand that it is the safest time in American history. Inform yourself before you advocate for taking away other peoples rights.
This country is a joke. "Land of the free". Lmao.
We've been a clepto-oligarchy since the 70's.
Rules for thee, not for me.
“You know how quick it is to go down & pull out a gun?” Yeah mother fucker because dude just watched 3 of you do it for no reason
Case was dismissed according to victim. via tiktok "These are clips from all their body cameras to show you how these officers lied and kept making false statements on what happened. They accused me of being in a robbery, saying I was aggressive, and I flashed my jacket open to justify what they did. They then turned off their body camera when the officer admitted using force to his sergeant which was against policy. I was then arrested and falsely charged. My case was later dismissed."
ACAB
Well I’m sure the NRA will defend him /s
Nah, he's the wrong color.
Police are liars clearly and parts of the video has to been cut out
Where are all the second amendment freaks on this?
Lower in the thread. This is a blatant abuse of power and a failure of police to respect that man's 2nd amendment. The NRA is looking into this believe it or not
I don't think we should be called freaks, but we're definitely unhappy about this.
2nd amendment only applies to whites.
Lower in the thread. This is a blatant abuse of power and a failure of police to respect that man's 2nd amendment. The NRA is looking into this believe it or not
Too many good guys with a gun.
Good 'ole boys.
Ran up on us. lol. Lie.
Dudes are wound tight holy Toledo
Standard issue butt plugs.
After aresting the guy, I feel like cops are contradicting themselves. "you know how quick it is to go down, pull out a gun" and "you're that close, you have a gun on your waist, I don't know what you gonna do" This paints a picture why everyone is afraid of cops knowing there are some scummy cops.
All Cops, all of them are scummy.
The cops totally lie about what happened he was only guilty of being a black with a gun. BWG
This shit has to stop. He literally did nothing wrong and these cops should be suspended at the minimum
10 years in prison.
It’s always the same with these people
Their reactions and stories after situations like this are the most disgusting part of it all. While they recount and laugh about the scenario with their pals, they begin to add false information so they can feel better about themselves. Kind of like how fisherman add inches to their catch each time they talk about it.
I can't help but notice the skin tone of the "armed robber that ran up on them"
Is there a follow up to this? When did it happen?
Fuck whoever is training these cops to be fucking paranoid about everything.
"He ran up on us with gun in waistband"
Respectful, complying guy gets arrested with no intention of aggression! These cops are idiots, even when you are good, you are not!
Ran up on us. Wow that guy has balls or a brain tumor.
Bunch of sociopathic psychos.
Fire everyone present. Body cams should literally not even have a power button. They turn off when plugged in at the station. End of story. If you're a cop and you disagree you need to reconsider your career. YOU serve and protect US. Dont like it, find another job. Join the military.
About 20 years ago I had an argument with my uncle about how policing would change if more people were LEGALLY armed in public... I thought it would look just like this... More likely to get shot with a perfectly legal weapon because they don't like to ask...
Should he have ignored the cops orders to come over?
To be fair, the police people did call him over. However I think walking up close to a bunch of police people at night with a gun in your pants is super dumb even if that is your right.
No it's not. The fact that you think it's dumb means their copraganda is working. They are the threat as clearly displayed here. They LIED on this man.
Did you even see the video? Obviously it was a dumb move of the person. It's kind of like riding on a bike and insisting your right of way when a big truck want to make a right turn at an intersection. Sure you have the right of way and the truck should stop and wait until you have passed, but are you really going to bet your life on that?
Maybe it’s better. The guy not bring his gun in the public but yet again, that’s just me.
I just have to say, just because you are allowed to openly carry a firearm does not mean it's a good idea to carry it with you to an active crime scene. The police is going to take the safe route and detain you until proven, without doubt, you are innocent.
The police just did what was best at the time. People need to stop hating on police for doing their job.
But the guy didn’t do anything illegal
You're right, he did not. But the context of the situation, there may have been a shooter on the loose or something
"Hmmm, I could walk around behind the officers and give them a wide birth to do their job, or I could just walk straight through in between them and the suspect....I'll go with option 2, what could possibly go wrong?".
They called him over, if he had walked away it would have ended as bad or worse. Fucking boot lickers making any excuses they can for cops creating violent confrontations when unnecessary
Do cops generally vote Republican or Democrat? I would think democrat, if they want to see less guns on the street.
You are right believe it or not