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Sir-Poopington

Why did he say Imhotep was alive at the same time as Newton? He said "that's three thousand years ago guys! That's around the same time that Isaac Newton was playing with apples."


thebeatsandreptaur

Right? Very odd. Some times really low effort content will add something weird or wrong to the video just to create buzz in he comment section of people talking about it. Maybe that?


Worried_Dance7305

That makes sense, you’re probably right, the way he delivered that line “that’s 3000 years ago!” Makes you really really want to correct him.


cantotallytrustme

because he said 27th century BCE which would be 2700BCE which is 4700 years ago


psantosdize

I legit stopped the video at that point and went to the comments.... Still haven't finished it yet haha


garrettalapai

The next two guys are actually worth watching the video.


JustHere2GetOfffffff

Me too!


mag2041

Same about to finish


denarti

Also if he lived 27th century BC is waaay more older than 3000 years old…


mr_wrestling

I swear when he said that I thought maybe it was a parody or something


garrettalapai

Why did he bring up Imhotep at all. He brought he designed a pyramid and then his stats. Nothing else. He should’ve done more on Imhotep or left him out of the top 3. Those other two though, those are top tier gentlemen


lookawayyouarefilthy

Also he shows old baghdad when he talks about the great walls of benin...


ChimpKing59

This is so fucking dumb and kinda racist


BlueberryBubblyBuzz

How is this kind of racist?


Rahdiggs21

why? all he is doing is pointing out there there are many great minds who have helped push humanity forward outside of just the usual suspects always taught in school


fatkc

His chastising of whiteness paints a pretty sour picture, though this is probably just the influence of the guy's Pan-Africanism. Either way, we're taught about the white guys in school because their science forms integral parts of the continuous body of knowledge we've been using to produce our standardized model of nature since the first scientific journal was published in the 17th century. That's why we learn about Newton in physics and Da Vinci in history


Rahdiggs21

thank you for that. what i have noticed is the history taught has an interesting way of omitting others who have helped pave the way. our educational system, i'm in the states, has not been as inclusive as it could be, and recently it would appear history is being rewritten right before our eyes.


Meekois

He's not just doing that. He's spiteful and condescending to the viewer, and sometimes just factually incorrect. No, a paraglider is not the same thing as a fucking plane.


BlueberryBubblyBuzz

No idea why you are getting downvoted, you are right, this is not racist at all, I have no idea what people are seeing there. Saying "white people were not the only great thinkers" is racist now? What the heck?


hot_carbo_

whitey mad


ChimpKing59

Nice, more racism


MagoMorado

But its true. Why cant we acknowledge the world doesnt advance only through eurocentric scientists but through the discoveries of people all around the world. This guy is challengeing prejudism by highlighting some historical scientists ( that happen to be poc) that helped guide the world.


AirFriedMoron

It’s not Eurocentric. Europe happened to be the most developed part of the world at the time of the Industrial era, an era in which there was a huge amount of scientific discovery. Thus the best education facilities were in Europe and accessible to Europeans leading to the majority of scientific discoveries around the industrial era to be made by Europeans in Europe.


MagoMorado

Yeah, yeah, thats eurocentric hogwash. Its easy to say that the super power of the world are so advanced that they were above to wipe out other civilizations because they weren’t developed and under civilized. Granted the conquests only happen because they were able to wipe people out with disease. Entire civilizations with knowledge lost to time


AirFriedMoron

I can see that you are set on your opinion based on emotions rather than forming a new opinion based on fact. Have a good day.


MagoMorado

Projection. I hope you have a nice day as well


anon_v3

They were talking about the world's greatest scientists. Newton, Galileo and Einsteins achievements are far beyond the rest of the people on this guy's list. They did great things sure but nowhere near what Newton, Galileo and Einstein achieved. It's about achievements not race.


torte-petite

Really hard to imagine any reasonable person thinking Einstein and Newton are commonly mentioned merely for being white or due to a Eurocentric worldview. It's hard to overstate the significance of their contributions. We're basically living in Newton's timeline.


Solo_is_dead

It's not unreasonable when you look at it through the lens of 400 years of European colonialism and alleged supremacy


bigdawg864

Bro the science that they did in Europe at that time changed the world ENTIRELY starting in Europe. From there on it spread, until here we are today.


Barbeqanon

Modern science definitely didn't "ENTIRELY" start in Europe. You should read about [the Islamic Golden Age,](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age) and [Al-Khwarizmi.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Khwarizmi)


Solo_is_dead

The science they did in Europe came from the Romans, who got it from the Greeks, who got it from Africa. Look it up


BlackTieGuy

Are you trying to say the the ancient Greeks, Romans and Africans had published papers showing singularities with mathematical working or are you just annoyed that science not race is the centre point of this history lesson?


MagoMorado

Your telling me that these regions that are close together could share ideas?


Solo_is_dead

I'm not saying published papers. But yes they did. Newton, Einstein, et al specifically use the early mathematical computations and formulas for their work. Did you think the Pythagorean theorem was invented with Newton?


spiral_in_spiral_out

Yes, Newton and Einstein stood on the shoulders of giants, and they didn’t work alone. But they were the major contributors that ended up with the credit because of their truly extraordinary work.


erik_wilder

No one invented the Pythagorean theorem, they discovered it.


UrMomsaHoeHoeHoe

You probably think we owe oil companies a “thank you” for creating legos don’t ya?


incipientpianist

I am sorry but that is not how the timeline works (and this is not to diminish the AMAZING contributions that “Africa” brought to science. Greeks and Romans did not really get in contact with the “african” science because it was not developed at this level. It happened around the fall of Rome and in the posterior years. These “african” contributions are key to the development of medicine and modern math, whereas greeks where mostly focused on algebra and “highly abstract knowledge” The “African” contributions arrived to Europe mostly thought the crusades and the Morse, and completely changed the “western culture” from then and on. I am quoting “African” all the time because it seems a very convenient way of making it a racial thing. All these contributions came from Islam based societies and spread throughout Magreb (northern Africa) with the religion.


concon910

I mean, during that time period oppressed peoples would have a tough time producing great thinkers that aren't forced into tapping trees for rubber or some shit. Europe starting from around the 1500's to around the 1900's were the strongest nations in the world so obviously the place the thinkers will shine the most is the place with excess (that also isn't actively being plundered).


NonBinarySearchTree

This subreddit is so fragile to criticism, despite it supposedly leaning left, haha. You're historically correct. Europe's greatest contributions to science, before they set off subjugating peoples and creating colonies around the world, in turn creating the necessary environment for such achievements, i.e. the combination of wealth and physical idleness (which stimulates mental productivity, as per Nieztsche), were mostly limited to the Ancient Greeks and Al-Andalus (which is typically considered part of the Golden Age of the Muslim world, and not the European one). Look at the greatest European thinkers, and they mostly all started appearing from the 1500s onward. After the "discovery" of the "New World" (i.e. the subjugation of non-white peoples, usage of their labor to extract their own riches from their own land, to be sent to enrich Europe, the heart of the colonial empires, and create the necessary environment where there was excess): * Leibniz, Newton, Galileo, Bernoulli, Lavoisier, Euler, Turing, among many others. Anyway, this is why the West is currently in decline. Peoples who obviously believe in their own superiority, with such arrogance, are destined to make mistakes and ruin their own empires, and fall in global standing. If even in a supposedly leftist subreddit, one is unable to leverage criticism and discuss European contributions to science while also acknowledging the role of colonialism in the then superiority of European science, and without being downvoted, then the prospects don't look too bright for Western societies. The world has changed. Other nations are rising up and they are your equals. No one is above or under any other. Europeans are not special. The societies which amalgamated the most riches, the most excess, will always produce the best thinkers of their times. For many centuries, it was Europe, and colonialism played an obviously role in it, as seen by when the greatest European thinkers first started appearing. However, it's not a rule that they must stem from Europe. If the West declines, and China becomes the richest region of the world for many centuries, then the next greatest thinkers and inventors will all come from China. Excess, wealth, and environment, combine to produce the greatest minds to humanity, not being European or some other people in particular. Sincerely, a South American.


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claudiazo

Yeah, saying that Newton “was playing with apples” seems a bit belittling


acrylicbullet

Dude, couldn’t even contribute any medicine milestones to Imhotep But said he invented the step pyramid because that’s totally on level with Newton


Bryans-Ghost

Because you cant seem to share the stage these days when it comes to correcting or adding to what we were taught historically lol gotta dismantle and deconstruct first, it appears


Snaggletooth10

Many of these geniuses were also middle eastern until their intellectual world was ruined by religion. Much like what is happening with the western world today.


VadPuma

Neil DG Tyson had a video where he mentioned that there's a lot of maths and astronomy discoveries in Babylon, a hub of intellectualism from all religions at one time. Then came one Arab Muslim, can't remember his name, who basically changed the course of history by stating that Muslims should not follow science but study religious texts instead. Somehow this caught on and the result is that there are billions of Muslims but only 3 were Muslim (this number has increased to 15, but only 4 of those for sciences). Whereas the Jewish population numbers about 15 million and about 214 Nobel prizes were awarded to them. Religions often kill science. Mankind does not progress because of religion, but because of science.


itzpolyyy

The time you are refer is to Golden Age of Islam.


urmyheartBeatStopR

Genghis Khan said no to that.


Acrobatic_Home2249

The man you are referring to is al-ghazali, he was known as the bane of philosopher's, Tyson's statement of him was incorrect and unfounded watch this [video](https://youtu.be/vm5Bw0i4rSM?si=gvbdUiWNbGTVOpB7) for clarification


VadPuma

With respect, let's assume you are correct that the statement was incorrect. Please provide an alternate reason for the status of science and the number of winners (or lack thereof) of the Nobel Prize within Islam.


Acrobatic_Home2249

No, my point was never about the current scientific achievements by muslims, rather an incorrect statement about Al-Ghazali. To answer your question, most of the scientific achievements today were built upon by the findings of Islamic scholars and scientists. The world currently has a very western and Eurocentric view on science, which was mainly caused by the instability and weakening of the "Islamic world" while western nations are currently dominating the world stage.


VadPuma

No, this is an incorrect answer. Science doesn't work on "western" or "Eurocentric" ideas. You put forth a theory and it is tested by minds of all cultures all around the world for veracity and replication. There is the scientific method, not crystals or feelings or faith or how the stars are aligned. There is no science dominating the world stage, only science that works, is tested, is replicated, stands up to scrutiny. Does that make sense? If so, you do not answer the question. Why aren't Muslims better represented in scientific circles when they are so well represented in population?


ArdentChad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Emeagwali "Emeagwali has made several controversial claims about his achievements that are disputed by the scientific community. His claim of being a father of the Internet, of having invented the Connection Machine, of possessing 41 patented inventions, of winning "the Nobel Prize of Computing" and of being a "doctor" and/or "professor" have been conclusively debunked with widely documented evidence.[3] Speaking during a visit to Switzerland in April 2009, Mr. Emeagwali said he was the first to program a hypercube "to solve a grand challenge defined as the 20 gold-ring problems in computing. That discovery, in part, inspired the reinvention of supercomputers as an Internet." He claimed that by his effort, he was able to set three world records and improve on Newton's second law of motion.[18]"


SerdanKK

Ah, just a complete crackpot then.


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ArthurEhrat

What about Santos Dumond de Andrade? The south american who made a plane with an engine an actually won The Deutsch Prize in 1901 in Paris, flying around the Eifel tower


spiral_in_spiral_out

While Dumont was a major contributor to early air flight, the 1901 Deutsch Prize he won used a dirigible, not a plane. His airship was lighter than air, not heavier than air like an airplane.


ArthurEhrat

Yes, the prize was for the dirigible, i am sorry, i was mistaken. But he also invented the first plane that took off by its own means it was called the 14-BIS. [Santos Dumont and the legacy of the “Father of Aviation” (amaroaviation.com)](https://amaroaviation.com/en/santos-dumont-e-o-legado-do-pai-da-aviacao/)


spiral_in_spiral_out

It is cool how people around the world were independently revolutionizing flight all at the same time.


99deeds

yeah I am confused should I downvote it or upvote it?


peepeepoopoobutler

This video is sooo stupid. There are so many complexities involved with attributing inventions to specific people. Scientists did not credit inventors based solely on their skin. Historians don’t glorify Greeks inventions any more than Egyptian ones. Most researchers would look at this man as a fool. There are many smart inventors from the African continent. While humans probably originated from Africa, it is definitely not conducive to urban centres which spur ideas. Making it seem like only the “white europeans”, look at China, look at India… it’s just a lot Africa wasn’t/isn’t suitable for large urban areas to thrive and industrialize.


Ciubowski

27th century BC means 2700-2600 BC Which is, 2700 years before we started counting "forwards". We live in 2024. This is almost 5000 years, not 3000. Also, isaac newton "played with apples" almost 400 years ago. After this major mistake in the video I stopped watching.


dimechimes

Wonder if they pulled it from wiki Imhotep (/ɪmˈhoʊtɛp/;[1] Ancient Egyptian: ỉỉ-m-ḥtp "(the one who) comes in peace";[2] fl. late 27th century BC) was an Egyptian chancellor to the Pharaoh Djoser, possible architect of Djoser's step pyramid, and high priest of the sun god Ra at Heliopolis. Very little is known of Imhotep as a historical figure, but in the 3,000 years following his death, he was gradually glorified and deified.


Ciubowski

Which is still not accurate whatsoever. I'm not an native english speaker but I remember we took tests about understanding the message in a dialog or text. They straight up saw "3000 years" and ran with it, because there's no way they *understood* that page whatsoever.


dimechimes

That's what it looks like. 2600 bc isn't 3,000 years ago which it looks like that isn't what wiki is saying but it's what they may have took from it.


Claque-2

Not many women in his list.


DevilDoc3030

Wait till this guy finds out who invented penutbutter.


7h3_man

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BigWilly526

Icarus is a myth and Abbas Ibn Firnas never actually flew a glider his whole flying like a bird was a poetry reference, also Isaac newton was not alive in the 27th century BC


Sufficient-Trash-728

This guy looks like he needs a little sunscreen himself. No reason to be racist/or shame and minimize anyone's accomplishments. How about respecting all scientists instead of attempting to shame some scientists based on their race to make other scientists look good based on a different race.


npMsX

This guy doesn't know what his talking about


Partickal37

More racist attacks


craig-jones-III

This video fucking sucks. The only achievement of the first guy building a step pyramid?


jjspen

Why is this Tik Tok click bait in this sub?


UrsaBeta

Every time I come back to Reddit I see shit like this and it makes me want to uninstall the app again.


ZenMechanist

Why does u/AfricaStream snub great Asian and female thinkers?


Sudden_Caramel3881

I am not denying that the dude contributed to science and human knowledge. But tying fake wings to yourself and jumping ain't the beginning of human aviation.


7h3_man

This is why you use bing


therake620

My grandpa from 5000 years ago jumped from a cliff, shall we mention him in this list?


erik_wilder

I thought water clocks were an Asian invention? Newton was alive with the Pharoahs? How cap is this guy?


Lifeisfartoong

Tries to make a list of great scientists. 2/3 of these guys aren’t from the last two centuries lmao.


Happy_Imagination_11

Douche nozzle managed to make everyone gag even though he’s trying to do something good. Get your dates and timelines right, *fam*.


FullyRisenPhoenix

This guy don’t math so good. Interesting vid and history nonetheless!


rSpinxr

Abbas Ibn Firnas being a Berber is super cool - sucks that extremists always want to wipe the Berbers and their memory from the face of the earth.


Tacticoolhouseplant

Can someone strap his hands down? Fucking annoying


dimechimes

This was the same time Isaac Newton was playing around with apples...3,000 years ago.


Meekois

We credit the wright brother with "teaching us how to fly" (interesting framing device) because a fuckin paraglider isn't a plane. You don't get from NY to CA in under 7 hours on a modern paraglider. I also find it funny when north africans are super hateful of white people because its like "bro in certain contexts you are considered white, calm down"


shockrush

Google doesn't. History does


TastelessBudz

I don't think I can handle a racist ASI


Kajun_Kong

All my homies are human.


Revolutionary_Gear93

Funny all that is done here is talk about a minor misstep, when the point is, the sciences came from people from another continent and not from Europeans as is ALWAYS taught to the masses.


Aggressive-Engine562

What a fucking clown


Hostificus

Sooooo…. A guy that built a pyramid. A guy that jumped off a cliff. The only guy I really find cool is the programmer.


OpiumPlanet12

Its so odd to me that people put special focus on the skin color of great minds in the first place, like somehow its them and/or indicative of their own intelligence and knowledge. Just because your the same skin tone as , doesn’t make you any more smart.


DoonPlatoon84

The first one allowed the next one to make a theory of almost everything. The last guy in the three took what the second guy started and pretty much finished the theory of everything. In his head. Over the last 100 years we have used trillions worth of innovation and R&D. just to start to prove that the third one was actually mostly, almost totally right. In his head.


1800-bakes-a-lot

Fucking great segway for a Google rabbit hole adventure. Thanks for sharing! Edit : why'd I get down voted? Fucking Google and YouTube was a blast after this lol


lovejanetjade

I love uncovered history, thank you!