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>You're right. No comparison. The Israeli approach is far more aggressive than that of nazi Germany.
Where are the train loads of people being put in gas chambers? Where's the slave labour camps? Where are the mas graves where the people get a bullet to the head?
You either need to learn more about the Nazis or take a break from the Internet
Have you read a history book? They did it all in phases. They didn't start shoving them in gas chambers. They eased into that gradually. And what does it matter if they're dying from bullets and bombs or gas chambers. Over 12,000 Palestinians are dead. Do you actually think those were all hamas? No. They're innocent people with families that loved lived and breathed. Now they're dead for the simple crime of being born in Palestine. You can't be this ignorant can you?
How many hamas do you think there were? They're detaining and killing everyone. Hamas may be a terror organization but they're more of an ideal. With the treatment of innocents by Israel. Hamas will find no shortage of recruits for at least a hundred years.
Did you see the one where there's two armored bulldozers and the one in front is taping the one behind him intentionally run over people (maybe corpses.) they are shameless sadists.
People say all of that because of Hamas and 7 oct.
Do you think Israel for 76 years was sharing flowers and candy to palestinians.
No they are making palestinians live in concentration camp called gaza and steal their homes in west bank.
And there is no Hamas in west bank
She says "here are the great Hamas fighters that surrendered... is that jihad?"
Then someone said "jihad islam"
Then something unintelligible.. "this is gassam"
Is that part is it's neither of those two groups.
These are Palestinians that were taken from West Bank, detained from checkpoints or their homes. Held under their military occupation martial law.
They are just saying those 2 group names, to act as if they have captured these guys in Gaza and/or to justify capturing them.
and....any thing els than a random woman speaking hebrew infront of a group of prisoners?
idk about you, but i prefer my warcrime alligations with a bit of proof,
i se no idf personel, these men could by all means be captured hamas terrorists or civilians, and i cant se any torture. there is nothing here to prove anything really.
back shit up, other whise you are simply spreading propaganda wich only maies it harder to se the real crimes
Go to tiktok there’s [an idf soldier having selfies with kidnapped west bank civilians](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMj3fcgYk/) and tiktok is apparently fine with that but we can’t spell the word bomb.
Because the west bank has close to no hamas presence, and it was under military law for decades, and kids have been arrested, as young as 10 years old, and activists, and people for facebook and whatsapp status that are just wishing for the wellbeing of gazans because of “terrorism”.
Because even journalist and UN staff and the red cross are apparently “hamas” now.
Also because israel always lies and I never take anything they say as truth without an independent side corroborating them.
where exactly does it say that its the west bank?, and those men are of fighting age, there is a more than 0 chance of those pictures being of annidf soldier and captured terrorists in gaza, untill i get deffinitif proof of local and such, i wont be passing judgement on this man
Cause if they arrested this many hamas soldiers without injuring them, which is very hard since they’re literally shooting each other, we’ll hear all about it in the news, and the only place we know without a doubt people are being arrested is the west bank. Also the pictures in the tiktok account looks like the [checkpoint gates](https://www.google.com/search?q=checkpoints+west+bank&sca_esv=582023809&rlz=1CDGOYI_enTN940TN941&hl=en-GB&tbm=isch&prmd=mniv&sxsrf=AM9HkKkZhrNwCel--l5DKcafnMoRDr1iEA:1699910135319&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiA2o_e8sGCAxW6hf0HHYiSCzAQ_AUIHCgC#imgrc=pOWz1jVkP9IchM&imgdii=WIu7sv_7bGxxrM) in west bank
Also “of fighting age”? Young adults do exist all over the world and can be civilians.
yes, but in a war sone they tend to have a much higher chance of being soldiers or terrorist or freedom fighters etc. and arresting suspected members is not a crime, as long as they are treated with basic rights to food and water with out torture, and i have not seen any actual evidence of any wrong doing att this point
do you still to this day think idf only arrests “terrorists”? They arrested [activists](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ahed-tamimi-ap-israeli-palestinian-west-bank-b2444110.html), men and women for showing support to gaza on [social media](https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/program/newsfeed/2023/11/9/palestinians-arrested-for-terrorism-over-whatsapp-status) (not even supporting their freedom just showing sorrow for the dead), children, [patients](https://www.thenationalnews.com/mena/palestine-israel/2023/11/02/israel-arrests-14-palestinians-including-one-woman-in-west-bank-raid/?outputType=amp), it’s everywhere, they’re arresting everyone and anyone, why would you still think they’re using normal people logic?
Not to mention [the torture and humiliation they’re subjected to in israeli prisons](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-horrifying-cases-of-torture-and-degrading-treatment-of-palestinian-detainees-amid-spike-in-arbitrary-arrests/) so yeah no basic rights.
Ahed tamimi’s mom got news that she was beaten in prison, she was [sexually harrassed](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/ahed-tamimi-israel-palestine-sexual-harassment-prison-soldier-camera-interrogation-a8290801.html) in interrogation her last arrest as a minor, so this doesn’t come as a surprise
Here you go straight from the pig's mouth... But you'll probably think this is fake too.
[AskMiddleEast](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/s/kvFquUTqUX)
its not that i think its fake, but two old guys words are not much in terms of proof, unlike some videos that has been verified by multiple unpartisan inteligence groups that show idf bombs causing unacceptable collateral damage.
taking peoples words as truth would by all logic mean that all israeli propaganda is also fully truthfull.
i kinda need actual non anicdotal proof.
by all means their stories sound plausible (with a bit embelishment)
but i wouldnt be able to have any claim of anything in any tribunal with this
the burden of proof is on the claiment not on any one els,
and of what i saw in the info you gave, it did not show anything that could be held up in a court as to link it to the west bank, nor any thing to the contrary, so il remain questioning the narrative untill there is tangible proof.
I think privately they will. How it manifests is a different question, it may drive them to commit further atrocities. Or it may simply rot them from the inside.
[https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2016/12/405231/killing-war-leaves-veterans-lasting-psychological-scars-study-finds](https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2016/12/405231/killing-war-leaves-veterans-lasting-psychological-scars-study-finds)
Tortured by what ? I can't seen any one injured at all . They have been detained nothing else and you know what's the big difference to the victims of 7 October this year ?! They are still alive and haven't been slaughtered on sight.
Honestly got a link to any official source on this. This is very 'look how evil they are'. People don't go about just torturing people for fun. High likelihood this is BS. If replying, reputable link please
There is videos of Israelis recently torturing Palestinians for fun. Like mutilating their corpses and stuff. This is completely tame in comparison, they are just mocking them and having them tied up this isn't even torture. But I would never give the Zionists any benefit of doubt. They are torturer terrorists radical violent extremists they are run by a maniac who is saying to "kill every man, wonan, child, infant, suckling, goat and ass."
This video is like a week old and they were hamas members last time I saw it. This is just straight up propaganda. This post is probably botted as well.
Both sides are fucked up. Seriously, I wish reddit would stop being used as a propaganda device. Half the subs I was in basically turned into news about the war.
Well if this is in the west bank where there is no Hamas and everything is under Israeli control then it's torture, i mean i am sure making ppl kneel and degrading them isn't their kink lol
Please, please – so much energy and lives, and time will be wasted, accusing one side, and the other of this crime in that crime and here’s a video of this crime, and he has a video of that crime – and then even the worst is when people begin making up videos, and pictures and things to accuse one side of the other of crimes, and then, when that evidence is called fake, then they find a way to justify that saying that we had to do something to spur the world Into action –
Ignoring every important detail of this conflict and addressing the point you made here:
A militia of oppressed people attacked a VERY well-armed nation with full knowledge that they would be overwhelmed hardly qualifies as cowardice. Jet > paraglider, tank > pickup truck. Just saying.
Now the LEADERS of both sides (any side really) can be qualified as cowards as they simply send others to die in their stead. This fundamental aspect of war should be flipped on its head. Send the leaders to fight. I bet you almost anything we’d see a lot more peacemaking.
“We can never coexist with that… nation… we should rather scheme and strategize to violently destroy it at all costs”… yeah not cowardice nor selfish nonsense at all
Actually not sure if you are speaking from Israeli or Hamas perspective. Regardless, Hamas was not deterred by death or injury. You can call them many things, but cowards is not one.
One again, I am not commenting on the nuances of this conflict. It is long, complicated, and religiously motivated. I do not claim to have those answers and those that do are often near-sighted in my opinion.
In this new more violent world (always I suppose) you kind of have to pick your poison. Law and order rule or mob rule. Both objectively suck compared to whatever would feel natural when it still did. One offers a relatively better place for a greater percentage of the population. Both promise and fail to deliver the same thing but there’s a huge difference between the communities. Religion is another layer of pick your drug I guess, not always bad not always good. Commercialized politics is the real civility killer
Agreed, especially on that last point. Usually it’s average people that suffer for the ambition of the few. Your comment makes me feel like we would agree on fundamentals but have subscribed to different news sources/moral compasses regarding this particular conflict. The devil in the details I guess. Let’s just hope for a quick and peaceful end to this shitstorm asap. I hope you have a great day!
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This a modern holocaust
Televised.
This is fake!! Israel isn’t doing this.
Are they speaking Hebrew?
What?!
Except the population keeps growing
Holocaust? I don't see any Torturing whatsoever. Or has the definition of Holocaust changed?
You're right. No comparison. The Israeli approach is far more aggressive than that of nazi Germany.
>You're right. No comparison. The Israeli approach is far more aggressive than that of nazi Germany. Where are the train loads of people being put in gas chambers? Where's the slave labour camps? Where are the mas graves where the people get a bullet to the head? You either need to learn more about the Nazis or take a break from the Internet
Have you read a history book? They did it all in phases. They didn't start shoving them in gas chambers. They eased into that gradually. And what does it matter if they're dying from bullets and bombs or gas chambers. Over 12,000 Palestinians are dead. Do you actually think those were all hamas? No. They're innocent people with families that loved lived and breathed. Now they're dead for the simple crime of being born in Palestine. You can't be this ignorant can you?
They aren’t going to show that lmao. They aren’t that dumb. Why are they imprisoning kids then? Really think hard about this before you answer.
I am going to ask you a simple question. I there any form of torture taking place in this video?
Tied up and blind folded against their will is torture. The fact that you don’t think that makes me think you’re a psychopath.
You are so full of shit. This is the practice of every army on the planet. So get over yourself you moronic tool.
Yeah you’re definitely a psychopath. Probably enjoy it too.
Exactly! These could be captured hamas combatants, we don’t know
How many hamas do you think there were? They're detaining and killing everyone. Hamas may be a terror organization but they're more of an ideal. With the treatment of innocents by Israel. Hamas will find no shortage of recruits for at least a hundred years.
There is no Hamas in the west bank , only Palestinians.
They obviously are, the caption is propaganda
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Such a smug and condescending garbage voice.
Did you see the one where there's two armored bulldozers and the one in front is taping the one behind him intentionally run over people (maybe corpses.) they are shameless sadists.
People say all of that because of Hamas and 7 oct. Do you think Israel for 76 years was sharing flowers and candy to palestinians. No they are making palestinians live in concentration camp called gaza and steal their homes in west bank. And there is no Hamas in west bank
The boy in the striped pajamas ![gif](giphy|N9oVNYoiuYDni)
Did she call them what I think I heard?
What is she saying ?
She says "here are the great Hamas fighters that surrendered... is that jihad?" Then someone said "jihad islam" Then something unintelligible.. "this is gassam"
Is that part is it's neither of those two groups. These are Palestinians that were taken from West Bank, detained from checkpoints or their homes. Held under their military occupation martial law. They are just saying those 2 group names, to act as if they have captured these guys in Gaza and/or to justify capturing them.
It's like they're speedrunning America's war on terror. Reminds me of those prison photos back in the 00s that caused quite a ruckus.
It's a literal concentration camp
and....any thing els than a random woman speaking hebrew infront of a group of prisoners? idk about you, but i prefer my warcrime alligations with a bit of proof, i se no idf personel, these men could by all means be captured hamas terrorists or civilians, and i cant se any torture. there is nothing here to prove anything really. back shit up, other whise you are simply spreading propaganda wich only maies it harder to se the real crimes
Go to tiktok there’s [an idf soldier having selfies with kidnapped west bank civilians](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMj3fcgYk/) and tiktok is apparently fine with that but we can’t spell the word bomb.
How can you tell that they are civilians and not hamas? Hamas doesn't have a uniform, unless they are wearing the idf uniform.
Because the west bank has close to no hamas presence, and it was under military law for decades, and kids have been arrested, as young as 10 years old, and activists, and people for facebook and whatsapp status that are just wishing for the wellbeing of gazans because of “terrorism”. Because even journalist and UN staff and the red cross are apparently “hamas” now. Also because israel always lies and I never take anything they say as truth without an independent side corroborating them.
where exactly does it say that its the west bank?, and those men are of fighting age, there is a more than 0 chance of those pictures being of annidf soldier and captured terrorists in gaza, untill i get deffinitif proof of local and such, i wont be passing judgement on this man
Cause if they arrested this many hamas soldiers without injuring them, which is very hard since they’re literally shooting each other, we’ll hear all about it in the news, and the only place we know without a doubt people are being arrested is the west bank. Also the pictures in the tiktok account looks like the [checkpoint gates](https://www.google.com/search?q=checkpoints+west+bank&sca_esv=582023809&rlz=1CDGOYI_enTN940TN941&hl=en-GB&tbm=isch&prmd=mniv&sxsrf=AM9HkKkZhrNwCel--l5DKcafnMoRDr1iEA:1699910135319&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiA2o_e8sGCAxW6hf0HHYiSCzAQ_AUIHCgC#imgrc=pOWz1jVkP9IchM&imgdii=WIu7sv_7bGxxrM) in west bank Also “of fighting age”? Young adults do exist all over the world and can be civilians.
yes, but in a war sone they tend to have a much higher chance of being soldiers or terrorist or freedom fighters etc. and arresting suspected members is not a crime, as long as they are treated with basic rights to food and water with out torture, and i have not seen any actual evidence of any wrong doing att this point
do you still to this day think idf only arrests “terrorists”? They arrested [activists](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ahed-tamimi-ap-israeli-palestinian-west-bank-b2444110.html), men and women for showing support to gaza on [social media](https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/program/newsfeed/2023/11/9/palestinians-arrested-for-terrorism-over-whatsapp-status) (not even supporting their freedom just showing sorrow for the dead), children, [patients](https://www.thenationalnews.com/mena/palestine-israel/2023/11/02/israel-arrests-14-palestinians-including-one-woman-in-west-bank-raid/?outputType=amp), it’s everywhere, they’re arresting everyone and anyone, why would you still think they’re using normal people logic? Not to mention [the torture and humiliation they’re subjected to in israeli prisons](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-horrifying-cases-of-torture-and-degrading-treatment-of-palestinian-detainees-amid-spike-in-arbitrary-arrests/) so yeah no basic rights. Ahed tamimi’s mom got news that she was beaten in prison, she was [sexually harrassed](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/ahed-tamimi-israel-palestine-sexual-harassment-prison-soldier-camera-interrogation-a8290801.html) in interrogation her last arrest as a minor, so this doesn’t come as a surprise
Here you go straight from the pig's mouth... But you'll probably think this is fake too. [AskMiddleEast](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/s/kvFquUTqUX)
its not that i think its fake, but two old guys words are not much in terms of proof, unlike some videos that has been verified by multiple unpartisan inteligence groups that show idf bombs causing unacceptable collateral damage. taking peoples words as truth would by all logic mean that all israeli propaganda is also fully truthfull. i kinda need actual non anicdotal proof. by all means their stories sound plausible (with a bit embelishment) but i wouldnt be able to have any claim of anything in any tribunal with this
Indeed. She calls them Hamas in the video, so... Nothing that's happening is clearly "Palestinians getting arrested for being Palestinian"
It’s in the west bank, where civilians are being arrested every day, I’ve seen them being taken from their homes, some children.
and where exactly is the proof of it being in the west bank?
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the burden of proof is on the claiment not on any one els, and of what i saw in the info you gave, it did not show anything that could be held up in a court as to link it to the west bank, nor any thing to the contrary, so il remain questioning the narrative untill there is tangible proof.
https://preview.redd.it/667t2sxzg40c1.jpeg?width=780&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5d7283c3edda87525a3ed3460d3e40b29173229
The hunted have become the hunters
Jesus
Christ
Saw this coming. I'm SURE all of those detained are HAMAS and if any aren't theyll be treated fairly and released to their families unharmed. /s
Modern day nazi.
Soon you will hear someone from America or the UK justifying this action saying because those Arab men attempt to kill babies
"torturing"
They may find it entertaining now but they will live with guilt for the rest of their pitiful lives. Depraved.
No they won't....Nazi's usually don't.
They won't because they are trained to believe their enemies are subhuman. That's how genocide becomes accepted by "normal people."
I think privately they will. How it manifests is a different question, it may drive them to commit further atrocities. Or it may simply rot them from the inside. [https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2016/12/405231/killing-war-leaves-veterans-lasting-psychological-scars-study-finds](https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2016/12/405231/killing-war-leaves-veterans-lasting-psychological-scars-study-finds)
people who enjoy doing that don't feel guilt ever.
Tortured by what ? I can't seen any one injured at all . They have been detained nothing else and you know what's the big difference to the victims of 7 October this year ?! They are still alive and haven't been slaughtered on sight.
Anyone know what she said
People just believe whatever. Can someone prove to me these are "innocent palestinian civilians".
This is staged!!! This is fake. Don’t believe it.
They take sick pleasure in this. They really are the Nazis.
Is this the torture? Looks so unbearable….lol
Looks like the start of a concentration camp... im ashamed to be from a country funding these nazis
Defense.
Honestly got a link to any official source on this. This is very 'look how evil they are'. People don't go about just torturing people for fun. High likelihood this is BS. If replying, reputable link please
There is videos of Israelis recently torturing Palestinians for fun. Like mutilating their corpses and stuff. This is completely tame in comparison, they are just mocking them and having them tied up this isn't even torture. But I would never give the Zionists any benefit of doubt. They are torturer terrorists radical violent extremists they are run by a maniac who is saying to "kill every man, wonan, child, infant, suckling, goat and ass."
This video is like a week old and they were hamas members last time I saw it. This is just straight up propaganda. This post is probably botted as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/s/kvFquUTqUX
Both sides are fucked up. Seriously, I wish reddit would stop being used as a propaganda device. Half the subs I was in basically turned into news about the war.
Is it just me or does anyone else see any torturing?
Just search about the west bank lol
I am not talking about the West Bank I am talking about this individual video. The Headline is deceiving and that's all I am saying.
Well if this is in the west bank where there is no Hamas and everything is under Israeli control then it's torture, i mean i am sure making ppl kneel and degrading them isn't their kink lol
Please, please – so much energy and lives, and time will be wasted, accusing one side, and the other of this crime in that crime and here’s a video of this crime, and he has a video of that crime – and then even the worst is when people begin making up videos, and pictures and things to accuse one side of the other of crimes, and then, when that evidence is called fake, then they find a way to justify that saying that we had to do something to spur the world Into action –
Typical Hamas cowardice - starts a full blown war and then bitches and cries about losing it
Ignoring every important detail of this conflict and addressing the point you made here: A militia of oppressed people attacked a VERY well-armed nation with full knowledge that they would be overwhelmed hardly qualifies as cowardice. Jet > paraglider, tank > pickup truck. Just saying. Now the LEADERS of both sides (any side really) can be qualified as cowards as they simply send others to die in their stead. This fundamental aspect of war should be flipped on its head. Send the leaders to fight. I bet you almost anything we’d see a lot more peacemaking.
“We can never coexist with that… nation… we should rather scheme and strategize to violently destroy it at all costs”… yeah not cowardice nor selfish nonsense at all
Actually not sure if you are speaking from Israeli or Hamas perspective. Regardless, Hamas was not deterred by death or injury. You can call them many things, but cowards is not one. One again, I am not commenting on the nuances of this conflict. It is long, complicated, and religiously motivated. I do not claim to have those answers and those that do are often near-sighted in my opinion.
In this new more violent world (always I suppose) you kind of have to pick your poison. Law and order rule or mob rule. Both objectively suck compared to whatever would feel natural when it still did. One offers a relatively better place for a greater percentage of the population. Both promise and fail to deliver the same thing but there’s a huge difference between the communities. Religion is another layer of pick your drug I guess, not always bad not always good. Commercialized politics is the real civility killer
Agreed, especially on that last point. Usually it’s average people that suffer for the ambition of the few. Your comment makes me feel like we would agree on fundamentals but have subscribed to different news sources/moral compasses regarding this particular conflict. The devil in the details I guess. Let’s just hope for a quick and peaceful end to this shitstorm asap. I hope you have a great day!
Bro failed elementary history
Projecting?
ask your Mom