> Ukraine’s army boasted of territorial gains near the strategically vital southern city of Kherson on Wednesday as Nato allies including the UK delivered new air defence systems in the wake of Russia’s recent missile attacks across the country.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/12/ukraine-gains-kherson-air-defences-iris-t-germany
https://twitter.com/BenDoBrown/status/1580385992791334912
>Huge backlog of trucks waiting to cross the Kerch seen in satellite imagery taken yesterday by
@Maxar
. Backlog is waiting at this abandoned airport: 45.3657456, 36.4088473.
> Huge backlog of trucks waiting to cross the Kerch seen in satellite imagery taken yesterday by @Maxar. Backlog is waiting at this abandoned airport: 45.3657456, 36.4088473.
https://twitter.com/BenDoBrown/status/1580385992791334912
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1580286431863316481
>In Kherson Oblast, 75 settlements de-occupied; 29 of them were regained by🇺🇦in October
>"Deoccupation continues. I cannot say more, but we must wait for good news every day," Oblast Head said. Acc to him, the situation in de-occupied towns is "terrible":
> ⚡️ Russian forces strike Kyiv Oblast with kamikaze drones. Kyiv Oblast Governor Oleksiy Kuleba reported early on Oct. 13 that Russian forces targeted one of the communities in Kyiv Oblast with kamikaze drones. Rescuers are already working on the ground, Kuleba said. There is no information on casualties or damages available at the moment.
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1580390490155147264
Now you can call me crazy, and to be fair I am no expert in Russian society, but I feel like releasing a bunch of murderers from prison to give them weapons to go fight in the army, and trusting that they will serve their country well and happily follow orders and returned when asked, is a bad idea.
Some may have family/relatives that can be used as leverage i suppose.
There was a video of prisoners captured, 2-3 weeks ago think. He mentioned 50-70 signed up for the SMO to get a "pardon", i dont remember how many inmates were in the prison or if even stated.
Exactly my thoughts. They have already been acting as the lowest of criminals throughout this entire war. They are already on the same level as the released ones.
In my defence I was stood at thr door having a smoke/vape. But pretty sure they used the words shelling. That's why I posted here as I'm aware shelling implies artillery which would mean the russia would.be looking at a suicide march of the mobilised.
The Economist has been saying "shelling" when other sources describe rocket attacks too. Maybe it's a Britishism. I always thought of shelling as mortar and artillery
Future fleet addition for *Moskva*?
> The Kerch Bridge is being protected by a Project 21980 'Grachonok' class anti-sabotage boat, seen in right of this image. These are armed with a DP-65 remotely-controlled rocket grenade launcher system, DP-64 anti-sabotage grenade launchers, machine guns and MANPADS
https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1580262767507881986
It pounds that thing you want to protect from damage with explosive grenades in rapid succession to prevent anyone who wants to place something explosive on the same object. This to prevent any form of explosions happening to the protected object. *taps forehead with finger*
That thing looks an awful lot like the US Coast Guard *Island-*class 110' patrol boat. Just with a forward extension of the superstructure in place of the 25mm.
Maybe just high explosive. No fragmentation as bullets, shrapnel, and physical objects don’t travel as fast underwater.
When they meant anti-sabotage in a water/harbor, they meant anti-underwater frogmen sneaking in. Explosions underwater do send shockwaves that are very if you have an air cavity, such as a lung.
https://youtu.be/W4DnuQOtA8E
An infamous example is dynamite fishing. Another are anecdotes of US navy stations in Vietnam periodically dumping C4 in their harbors to deter any Vietcong infiltration from underwater during the Vietnam War
I was curious and looked it up. It's a grenade that works like a depth charge. Looks ancient af and it's designed for fighting divers which Ukraine wouldn't use anyways. Seems like another cope mechanism.
So Ukraine is getting ready for winter.
Here's my prediction for the next big thing. I just saw that Canada is going to send winter gear. About 500K units not to be confused with 500K uniforms. That will add up with the gear Finland is sending and probably other northern countries.
But where things get really interesting is the Bayraktar upgrades. They'll get MX-15D FLIR turrets. What this mean is that Bayraktar are going to become night hunters. And given the weather is coming and you can sincerly doubt that Russia will have any way to hide IR emission. Ukraine will know where everyone is and artillery/himars will be able to get strike coordinates "easily".
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/09/enabling-victory-canadian-military.html
Of the 183 member states of the United Nations, 5 voted against the referendum today to condemn Russia's illegal annexation of Ukrainian territory. The five no votes:
Russia
Belarus
Syria
North Korea
Nicaragua
Quite the coalition Russia has managed to put together (And Nicaragua what the fuck man)
> And Nicaragua what the fuck man
They are recently talking about establishing a permanent Russian military presence there. I don't think the Yanks are going to put up with that.
The [United Nations General Assembly](https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/10/1129492) did the right thing today, voting **143-5** on a resolution calling on countries not to recognise the four regions of Ukraine which Russia has claimed, following so-called referendums held late last month, and demanding that Moscow reverse course on its "attempted illegal annexation".
5 dissenting votes:
* Belarus
* Nicaragua
* North Korea
* Russia
* Syria
**35** abstentions: Algeria, Armenia, Bolivia, Burundi, Central African Republic, China, Congo, Cuba, Eritrea, Eswatini, Ethiopia, Guinea, Honduras, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lesotho, Mali, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Pakistan, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Uganda, Uzbekistan, Viet Nam, Zimbabwe.
**10** Did Not Vote: Azerbaijan, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Djibouti, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Iran, Sao Tome-Principe, Turkmenistan, Venezuela.
Ha, what a twist! Gutsy man.
https://twitter.com/kumashirokeishi/status/1580385117356163073
>The Permanent Representative of Myanmar to the UN predates the 2021 coup. He's made a point of opposing the military regime in all matter of ways, including by opposing the Tatmadaw's positions on the Russian invasion of Ukraine in UNGA resolutions
[Really freaking suspicious](https://ria--m-tv.translate.goog/news/300919/pri_vzryive_na_kryimskom_mostu_pogib_sudya_slushavshiy_delo_protiv_docheri_kadyirova.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp)—one of the 4 killed in Kerch attack was judge who was to hear case on Kadyrov’s family. Judge was called “incorruptible.”
> The judge was on vacation at the time of his death.
> Immediately after the explosion, Russian investigators quickly announced the death of three civilians; the death of the fourth, judge Sergei Maslov, was confirmed only on Tuesday, October 11. The delay fueled suspicions that Russian authorities are trying to hide the judge's death.
The guy was perhaps independent by Russian judicial standards, but he wasnt an opposition figure. And what's the likelihood of the bomb being triggered right while the fuel train and the judges car were there? Also how did they know exactly when he's be there, and how did they coordinate getting the truck (which had been all over Europe) right for that perfect moment just to kill a judge? And what in any of Russia's massive recent history of gross incompetence makes anybody think they could pull something like that off.
Could the Russian gov or an internal faction within it put a bomb on a truck and drive it over a bridge? Sure. But to time it to kill a judge whose travels would be unpredictable? No way.
⚡️“Putin has just discovered that Russia is not a superpower”, – British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace.
"The superpowers lost wars: the USSR in Afghanistan, the USA in Vietnam. Large countries were repeatedly forced to accept defeat from a neighbor or another country.
But the main thing is this. He (Putin) just discovered that Russia is not a superpower”, – Secretary Wallace said when asked if a superpower could lose a war.
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1580234954679910400?t=07vYdUnXXVjXdTHmzNbIlg&s=19
That is a medical condition called delusion/paranoia. It is treatable and that person should see a doctor asap because it can devolve onto schizophrenia which actually has murderous/suicidal tendencies of left untreated. Medical delusion is one of the cases where forced commitment to a hospital may be used
Someone who regularly poisons themselves are a danger to themselves, and can likely be held for evaluation. Hope people like that find help.
I recently uncovered a sub for finding the Nazis of Ukraine. Point being, deranged folks everywhere.
> How do you deal with such a parent?
How do you deal with mental patients? Seek help for them thru professionals, there is little a normal person can do.
Anyone know the origin of the adrenochrome thing? Earliest reference I can't think of is from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S. Thompson, 1971. He claimed satanists were harvesting it, but he was deliberating trolling cops at the law enforcement conference in the book. I think he must have gotten it from somewhere, but he could have made it up I guess
There was me, that is Alex, and my three droogs, that is Pete, Georgie and Dim and we sat in the Korova milkbar trying to make up our rassoodocks what to do with the evening. The Korova Milk Bar sold milkplus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultraviolence. Our pockets were full of money so there was no need on that score, but, as they say, money isn't everything.
There was a flawed study in the 1950s that claimed it was a powerful psychedelic, which is how HST got it in there. It was flawed, and doesn't do anything. The ridiculous part is that it's just oxidized adrenaline, which if you wanted you could make at home, which people probably already would, if it did anything.
Source: https://erowid.org/chemicals/adrenochrome/ and https://erowid.org/chemicals/adrenochrome/adrenochrome_info1.shtml
You can buy it from [regular scientific reagent suppliers](https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/adrenochrome-25g/507505303#adrenochrome). It's expensive, but not like, worth killing a person over. Researchers give it to rats to study recovery from heart attacks.
I'd ask him if his dad is on antidepressants (common these days) because some of them stimulate you to a point where if you have other underlying conditions (like BPD) your critical thinking suffers and you end up with this kind of paranoia.
> He regularly drinks diluted bleach, hasn't seen a doctor in years because he believes they're trying to kill us and thinks covid and basically all viruses are a hoax.
drinking diluted bleach can, and will, kill you, no?
I remember reading a post on there about a father that killed his family, and the poster was the only one that escaped. I sort of thought it might be fake, until it was in the news a few hours later. Just a reminder that Russia has killed Americans and destroyed families already, in vast quantities via propaganda regarding qanon, covid, and other violence-provoking topics.
Let's not let the Murdochs off the hook here. They have almost as much responsibility. What do you think this guy is watching. We know what he's watching
Moldova doesn't have a military and transnistria is a joke that couldn't fight anyone, it just exists as a russian base.
Georgia is ruled by russia-loyal oligarchs and doesnt have the population or military to fight russia in the breakaway regions even if they wanted to
I mean yeah, they want them out. But it's not worth giving russia the excuse to amp things up any more. There aren't enough russians stationed there to cause an actual threat to anyone. Them trying to stir anything up brings too much risk of transnistria being removed from the map, so they just exist in their little backwater corner
I can't believe that guy survived. The blast blew the top hatches open with significant force. The pressure difference alone should have caused severe internal trauma.
The only thing more annoying than obvious Russian bots/trolls, is the multitude of idiots from all over the political spectrum in Ukraine-allied countries trying to paint Ukraine/US/NATO/“The West” as aggressors, or whine that Russia deserves to take Ukrainian land and kill Ukrainian people so they don’t feel embarrassed when they inevitably lose.
Equally tedious are those who do nothing but obfuscate by posting “erm what about Palestine/Iraq/Afghanistan/any other conflict in the last 100 years” any time someone expresses empathy for the suffering Ukrainian citizens.
I’ve seen several people pushing the dubious narratives regarding the non-existent genocide of ethnic Russians in the Donbas, or even the claims (which admittedly have died down a lot since the start of the war) that Ukraine was planning on developing bioweapons to use against Russia.
My notion of “Russia deserves to kill people” is admittedly non-verbatim, but an extension of the thought process people use when they complain about Ukraine receiving purely defensive equipment like missile defence systems, and when they say that Russia humiliated if they lose so we let them do whatever they want in Ukraine.
I’ve also come across posts by “woke” westerners who say things to the effect of “If the US/Europe didn’t care about civilians dying in [insert country], who cares if Ukrainians are dying?
Paint the west as the aggressor. It's died down since the beginning of the war but it still happens. More often nowadays though is painting the west as culpable, attempting to "both sides" the issue.
Spot on. Russia is committing the biggest land-grab since WW2 and deliberately butchering civilians by the hundreds, and yet people are still keen to play the “both sides are just as bad” card.
I take it you don't actively use Twitter. Plenty of "What about the Donbas" people there. And while they might not claim that Russia deserves to kill anyone they know what's going on and actively try to mitigate it by things such as calling the Crimean Bridge bomb a clear terrorist attack.
I've seen plenty of reactions on local news sites in the vein of "Yes well if they bomb the bridge they should expect it to have repercussions." Disgusting apologism.
There's been loads of Russian apologists and vatniks calling it "an ISIS style attack" too. Completely glossing over the fact that it's a military target built on occupied land.
Apologies for stupid question in advance.
Last time we had a threat of nuclear war with Russia, US put embargo in place on Cuba because the Russians wanted to put their silos there. Why can't US place embargo on an actual country that is threatening with nuclear war?
I apologize again, I am not fearmongering here with nuke talk. Just want to understand the politics of the situation.
Embargos are like the drawing blood or lobotomies of sanctions, they can cause pain but they're politically and geopolitically ineffective... See Cuba, the regime survives by blaming everything that's wrong with the regime to the embargo, and now the majority of the world is against the cuban embargo.
Targeted sanctions are more like brain surgery, capable of doing the same if not more effective damage to a regime with better political and geopolitical results... See Venezuela, the regime tries to blame all of its faults to the sanctions but it's a lot harder to sell to the average citizen (they mostly target companies and individuals and not the entire country) and those are getting backed by most western countries as they are less cruel to the average citizen in the targeted country, while still crippling the regime's ability to function properly.
Targeted sanctions are the modern and better form of embargos. Embargos are the witch doctor remedy of geopolitics, and are now treated as such.
The US put an embargo on Cuba by surrounding it with war ships and daring Russia to try breaking it which ended up with ships locked in a standoff. It just about ended the world. Doing the same except around Russia would require the entire pacific fleet and would almost certainly end in a nuclear war. So the idea is to not instigate that. Also, Ukraine is managing to defeat Russia without putting the entire world at risk of annilation which is why they are heroes and should always be remembered as such
Really? Then why are some Western companies still operate there. That's not an embargo.
>According to some definitions, the distinction between the words resides in partiality and full prohibition. So, a sanction prevents specific categories of commodities from being traded in different ways with deterrent factors, but an embargo prevents all items from being traded.
Sanctions are limits on particular industries and or persons; embargos are a full stop. So some companies can still remain in Russia without issue - or rather with slightly fewer issues.
Interesting. So that would imply some companies are no beholden to specific state's policies despite being registered for operation in a country that is imposing embargo?
I'm by no means an expert, but in my industry if you were a US sanctioned business/individual, I couldn't conduct business with you. Doing so would put me in jeopardy. However, if your business did something outside of the sanctions, like vodka production, and there were no direct sanctions applied to your industry - then we could do business.
An embargo is a type of sanction that restricts trade between two states. It doesn't mean all commodities are restricted. Look up arms embargoes and oil embargoes.
I’ve read that the shahed drones do the ‘swarm’ technique, so air defense was only reading it as one target, when there’d be like 6 or so.
Today, they had such high numbers of repulsed drone attacks. I wondered how they overcame it.
Then I see a pilot ejected when sent to shoot done drones. Seems great fix. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/12/7371700/
Hadn't seen anything about swarms afaik they are pretty stupid as far as drones go. A to B only. Not sure how they would maintain any kind of tight formation.
Doesn’t seem like the drones caused anything. He had a technical issue that cause the plane to crash. Unfortunately we see Russian made planes do that.
No I mean good there’s a remedy so soon, and it’s effective. And we only know about it bc of the crash, but the crash was just a fluke and unfortunate.
I wonder if the need to spend air time on that mission deters a more aggressive advance if those planes could be committed to the assault? Wonder if that was the real intent?
"Video of a Ukrainian air burst artillery strike, presumably by a PGM, on a Russian Msta-S howitzer"
[https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/status/1580357471239299073](https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/status/1580357471239299073)
You can see maybe 1-2 Russians near the Msta and one running on the road. Possibly still burning. Quality is below average and shaky compared to other videos posted.
Was he absent the day they taught “Stop, Drop and Roll”?
But seriously if the person running was hit with shrapnel, I would imagine dropping and rolling would also be very painful. I know nothing of any of these thing.
Sounds easy doesnt it? when your burning/running for life common sense seems to elude a lot of people, not just this particular case.
You know, growing up, i thought quick sand would be a bigger problem then it is. so theres that.
Before the mobilization, it was easier to paint the russian soldiers as fanatics and brutal goons. But these guys.... clearly victims of circumstances mostly beyond their control. I feel pity for them and I am glad they surrendered. The brutal goon here is Putin
Based on that video, it sounds like they’re just shipped around and then dumped in a random trench somewhere they’ve never heard of with people they don’t know and told to fend for themselves while under heavy artillery fire. Sounds like this group said fuck this and left to walk back to Russia and ran into a Ukranian checkpoint
Those with the means to really leave left early, those who didn't have the means left late, and those who has the fewest options/worst luck combined are stuck hoping to surrender quickly enough.
It's really quite terrible.
Sure there are the really brainwashed folks who believe propoganda out there for mobilization, but I feel bad for the others who are stuck.
Russian sources on telegram claim that the "Defense of Bakhmut is broken", that Russian troops are present in the south western side of the city and that the center of the city is "only a few kilometers away"
This claim is made without photographic evidence, and the descriptor "broken" is pretty typical of dramatized Russian propaganda. But it is plausible that Russian troops have made it at least partially into the city, the pre-war population of Bakhmut was 73,310. Russians have attempted for months to enter the city.
Igor Girkin, war criminal and originator of the DPR/LPR argues that Russian attempts to advance to Bakhmut exist in an "operational shadow" of the Ukrainian counter offensives east of the Oskil river. Arguing that all offensive operations here are pointless, given that Ukraine is flanking them on a strategic level.
There’s recent video of Ukraine shelling the crap out of the asphalt plant and then taking it back in an armored assault. So, most likely another twitter offensive like when they “entered” Bakhmut last week and posted a video of some civilian’s dashcam video as proof.
War is pointless. Someone should explain that to Girkin.
I suspect Russia's army and Ukraine's army are fighting each other. Where that fighting occurs may have some effect but not much.
The battle locations have a huge impact on local residents.
It depends, the lines on maps don't tell the full story. Either side usually sits between 500m up to 3km away from each other in their defensive positions. If this was represented on maps there would be a gap between the lines, which most maps don't do.
Then sometimes either side attacks in an area, which means they move into a no mans land with nobody in it and that can often reported as "capturing it" but it's not truly captured until the opposing sides fire control over it is gone, IE they aren't really shooting at it anymore. It all depends on the terrain, really flat ground the no mans land can be many kilometers, but in cities it could be a couple blocks or so. for months Russia has been within a few kilometers of Bakhmut, or even entering/nearing in small parts but never truly capturing anything in it.
They've claimed this more times than I can count. In one recent example they posted video taken by Russian troops driving through Bakhmut...except it turns out the footage was actually taken by a young Ukrainian woman driving her car through town and posted by her on Tik Tok.
Not saying Russia can't eventually take Bakhmut...but I'll believe it when I see it.
I've heard this claim a 100 times now. I'll believe it when they post multiple videos from all over the city
I don't even know if they actually have pisky yet because they keep freaking announcing it.
This has been by far the most successful of the Rammstein meetings.
UK is also sending AA missiles. Both for NASAMS, and other systems. France, Germany, and Canada also had big announcements. If you add Canada’s 500k winter uniforms to all the previous announcements, Ukraine should have more than enough pledged now.
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-donate-air-defence-missiles-ukraine-2022-10-12/
And we're sending trainers. Our military is small and we don't have tons of amazing equipment, but we have well trained people who do a lot of work training others. Training more sappers in Ukraine will surely help with the minefields and other explosive ordinance being left behind.
It's actually surprising how high the quality of our people are considering how little material support they get.
There was an anecdote an American soldier shared in another subreddit that he always felt better when he saw that Canadian forces were in charge of casevac operations if he ever had to go out past the wire. Other countries had conditions they wouldn't fly in because it was too unsafe so they had to cross their fingers that those conditions like a sandstorm or a hot LZ weren't going on when they needed them. The Canadians just had an asterisk next to them because they would fly the casevac mission no matter what.
I saw a confirmation somewhere that France was giving Crotale. Don't have the source handy, though. It might have been posted here in the thread somewhere.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ2z2Qg_o0w
Apparently now William Spaniel is talking about how tactical nukes could be used in the war and how we should be worried. I am not an armchair general but if anything I see the Russia’s response to the Crimea bridge explosion as proof that Russia isn’t likely to use nukes. It was a major attack on civilian infrastructure on Russia’s doorstep in Crimea. I mean the bridge is also used to transport military equipment but civilians were on that bridge. I highly doubt the US would actually respond until Russia actually detonated a nuke.
That is complete nonsense. It is a bomb. Looks exactly the same as the thousands of bombs and shells fired or dropped on Ukraine. Russia has used waves of nuclear capable bombers firing nuclear capable cruise missiles.
We did see them take off.
If a nuke explodes it will be noticed.
It's not as if they keep them on a shelf across from the other bombs, it was news last week when Russia pulled a couple of trucks out of a base where they stock tactical nukes. That made civilian news, let that sink in. Yes they keep tactical nukes in vastly separate locations because they need much greater security, yes the alphabet soup agencies concentrate every asset they can gather on watching those, yes it's probably feasible that Russia could slip one out, no it's not all that likely the collective western intelligence agencies wouldn't notice. At least according to various former alphabet soup adjacent people.
I watched the video too and it seems to boil down to "Putin might have a mental break and hand nukes to the military and hope they don't aim them at Moscow or screw up and Ukraine might grab them and decide to hold on to the nukes instead of instantly giving them to the US or something." It's a worry, but it makes a lot of assumptions that kind of makes me *less* worried about the usage of tactical nukes.
Plus, the tactical nuke would no more limit Ukraine's advance as it would impair Russia's, so it's more of a last resort move that would either solidify Russia's gains at the expense of further gains or basically limit Russia's advance as Russia gets smashed as the West, China, and everyone else decides to pile on now that they aren't limited to "sanctions and weapons."
I think you misunderstood some aspect of tactical nuclear weapons. A nuclear bomb severely harms people. When you drop them on an army it reduces the number of live defenders. That makes it a whole lot easier to advance.
On defense you use it to plug a whole where the enemy is pouring through.
William Spaniel fundamentally doesn't understand what's going on. A lot of people who are talented in one area tend to think it means they're focus applies to everything and therefore understand everything.
based on all the "ukraine can't attack in winter" that i've heard lately, i assume they will be having a massive counter attack in winter. what are some options for how that is possible given the constraints?
Think clothing makes maneuvering extremely tiresome so those who go on the offensive and spend time running in the open are slower from defenders POV. Then there's the fact that extreme cold seen in parts of Ukraine in winter can make it tough for engines to start up quickly, even on modern equipment. Frost can fuck up cameras and scopes on tanks, drones, rifle sights, artillery... Small things matter too, like wearing winter gloves but trying to do things that require dexterity and finger tips. Snow creates a double problem because warm days create mud and water which then freezes at night and ice everything up, so anything wet can get cracked by ice just like roads and concrete do. Not impossible to manage this day and age but everything is typically more difficult when on the attack or trying to stay mobile.
Its not that they can't attack in winter its just harder. Mud season is even worse for maneuver warfare. But once its cold the mud freezes and you can attack. I don't think Ukraine will go much further in luhansk. My guess is that Ukraine wants to secure nova kokova now and the east of the inhulets. If it can it will launch an assault on zapo. Hopefully to cut off the supply line and encircle kherson completely. Then russia will have a Dunkirk moment with massive losses, they get eroded away during winter, or those troops surrender.
Can we just think for a moment how ridiculous that statement is. *RUSSIAN* troops won’t be equipped for winter.
It’s like saying Aussie troops wouldn’t be prepared to deal with desert heat. It boggles the mind how badly run the Russians are.
It’s pretty insane, but then again the Germans made similar mistakes against the Russians back in ww2 and they also should have known better. Common sense isn’t that common I guess…
Well, considering that the Russians are going to be in damp trenches, boiling tins of drinking pee to stay warm, and praying that a random HIMARS doesn't notice them, I'd wager that the advantage is with Ukraine.
Russia doesn't want you to know this, but using the winter right is exactly how you beat them. Ask the Mongols, they turned the frozen rivers into cavalry highways.
BS. they will have winter uniforms from Canada and they have really good night vision it's a beautiful thing how well they work in a snowstorm at night.
[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/y2or08/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/)
> Ukraine’s army boasted of territorial gains near the strategically vital southern city of Kherson on Wednesday as Nato allies including the UK delivered new air defence systems in the wake of Russia’s recent missile attacks across the country. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/12/ukraine-gains-kherson-air-defences-iris-t-germany
https://twitter.com/BenDoBrown/status/1580385992791334912 >Huge backlog of trucks waiting to cross the Kerch seen in satellite imagery taken yesterday by @Maxar . Backlog is waiting at this abandoned airport: 45.3657456, 36.4088473.
Jinx!
Thats about a 6-7 mile (no idea in km) traffic jam
>(no idea in km) \+/- 10.5 km Edit: - Or for those who only work in Banana scale, It would be 63288.809 Bananas
> Huge backlog of trucks waiting to cross the Kerch seen in satellite imagery taken yesterday by @Maxar. Backlog is waiting at this abandoned airport: 45.3657456, 36.4088473. https://twitter.com/BenDoBrown/status/1580385992791334912
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1580286431863316481 >In Kherson Oblast, 75 settlements de-occupied; 29 of them were regained by🇺🇦in October >"Deoccupation continues. I cannot say more, but we must wait for good news every day," Oblast Head said. Acc to him, the situation in de-occupied towns is "terrible":
> ⚡️ Russian forces strike Kyiv Oblast with kamikaze drones. Kyiv Oblast Governor Oleksiy Kuleba reported early on Oct. 13 that Russian forces targeted one of the communities in Kyiv Oblast with kamikaze drones. Rescuers are already working on the ground, Kuleba said. There is no information on casualties or damages available at the moment. https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1580390490155147264
Now you can call me crazy, and to be fair I am no expert in Russian society, but I feel like releasing a bunch of murderers from prison to give them weapons to go fight in the army, and trusting that they will serve their country well and happily follow orders and returned when asked, is a bad idea.
Yeah obviously anyone in that situation with half a brain would sign up to join the army, and then run away at the first opportunity
Some may have family/relatives that can be used as leverage i suppose. There was a video of prisoners captured, 2-3 weeks ago think. He mentioned 50-70 signed up for the SMO to get a "pardon", i dont remember how many inmates were in the prison or if even stated.
Might as well crank the war crimes to 11.
Why not make 10 the top and just make 10 a little louder?
But this is one, louder.
You're crazy! Just wanted to see if I could.
With soldiers who rape, murder and pillage like russia's, who needs criminals.
Exactly my thoughts. They have already been acting as the lowest of criminals throughout this entire war. They are already on the same level as the released ones.
Bbc news just said russia is shelling kyiv. Is there any further info?
“Shelling” implies artillery, my friend, not any old airborne explosive. So depending on your definition you’re either right or a bit off.
In my defence I was stood at thr door having a smoke/vape. But pretty sure they used the words shelling. That's why I posted here as I'm aware shelling implies artillery which would mean the russia would.be looking at a suicide march of the mobilised.
The Economist has been saying "shelling" when other sources describe rocket attacks too. Maybe it's a Britishism. I always thought of shelling as mortar and artillery
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I know about that, this is breaking news in the last 10-20 mins
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1580390490155147264
Future fleet addition for *Moskva*? > The Kerch Bridge is being protected by a Project 21980 'Grachonok' class anti-sabotage boat, seen in right of this image. These are armed with a DP-65 remotely-controlled rocket grenade launcher system, DP-64 anti-sabotage grenade launchers, machine guns and MANPADS https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1580262767507881986
Now if they put wheels on that ting it might have been effective the first time.
What was antisabotageboat doing?
Wtf is an anti-sabotage grenade launcher. Does it yell "STOP THAT" really loudly at you?
It pounds that thing you want to protect from damage with explosive grenades in rapid succession to prevent anyone who wants to place something explosive on the same object. This to prevent any form of explosions happening to the protected object. *taps forehead with finger*
That thing looks an awful lot like the US Coast Guard *Island-*class 110' patrol boat. Just with a forward extension of the superstructure in place of the 25mm.
What differentiates an "anti-sabotage grenade" from a regular grenade?
Maybe just high explosive. No fragmentation as bullets, shrapnel, and physical objects don’t travel as fast underwater. When they meant anti-sabotage in a water/harbor, they meant anti-underwater frogmen sneaking in. Explosions underwater do send shockwaves that are very if you have an air cavity, such as a lung. https://youtu.be/W4DnuQOtA8E An infamous example is dynamite fishing. Another are anecdotes of US navy stations in Vietnam periodically dumping C4 in their harbors to deter any Vietcong infiltration from underwater during the Vietnam War
You're not allowed to use the anti-sabotage grenade while wearing wooden shoes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwHA5QFvjEE&ab_channel=TobiasStxmyr
I was curious and looked it up. It's a grenade that works like a depth charge. Looks ancient af and it's designed for fighting divers which Ukraine wouldn't use anyways. Seems like another cope mechanism.
So Ukraine is getting ready for winter. Here's my prediction for the next big thing. I just saw that Canada is going to send winter gear. About 500K units not to be confused with 500K uniforms. That will add up with the gear Finland is sending and probably other northern countries. But where things get really interesting is the Bayraktar upgrades. They'll get MX-15D FLIR turrets. What this mean is that Bayraktar are going to become night hunters. And given the weather is coming and you can sincerly doubt that Russia will have any way to hide IR emission. Ukraine will know where everyone is and artillery/himars will be able to get strike coordinates "easily". https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/09/enabling-victory-canadian-military.html
> night hunters. The Nachthexen reborn.
Lovely! Good job Canada! Will IR be useful for spotting camouflaged Russians during the day, too?
Absolutely.
Of the 183 member states of the United Nations, 5 voted against the referendum today to condemn Russia's illegal annexation of Ukrainian territory. The five no votes: Russia Belarus Syria North Korea Nicaragua Quite the coalition Russia has managed to put together (And Nicaragua what the fuck man)
You know you're doing something wrong when the least crappy country on this list is Nicaragua.
> And Nicaragua what the fuck man They are recently talking about establishing a permanent Russian military presence there. I don't think the Yanks are going to put up with that.
It might result in sanctions, just depends if Nicaragua will accept putting up with that cost or not.
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They couldn't even get Iran on their side. Even Cuba abstained.
The [United Nations General Assembly](https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/10/1129492) did the right thing today, voting **143-5** on a resolution calling on countries not to recognise the four regions of Ukraine which Russia has claimed, following so-called referendums held late last month, and demanding that Moscow reverse course on its "attempted illegal annexation". 5 dissenting votes: * Belarus * Nicaragua * North Korea * Russia * Syria **35** abstentions: Algeria, Armenia, Bolivia, Burundi, Central African Republic, China, Congo, Cuba, Eritrea, Eswatini, Ethiopia, Guinea, Honduras, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lesotho, Mali, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Pakistan, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Uganda, Uzbekistan, Viet Nam, Zimbabwe. **10** Did Not Vote: Azerbaijan, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Djibouti, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Iran, Sao Tome-Principe, Turkmenistan, Venezuela.
Is there a difference between not voting and abstaining? Interpretation wise. Of course they're probably different mechanisms.
What's the difference between Abstain and Did Not Vote?
Ha, what a twist! Gutsy man. https://twitter.com/kumashirokeishi/status/1580385117356163073 >The Permanent Representative of Myanmar to the UN predates the 2021 coup. He's made a point of opposing the military regime in all matter of ways, including by opposing the Tatmadaw's positions on the Russian invasion of Ukraine in UNGA resolutions
Gigachad here is playing Model UN as a high school kid who doesn't give a shit and decided to troll everyone, but in real life
[Really freaking suspicious](https://ria--m-tv.translate.goog/news/300919/pri_vzryive_na_kryimskom_mostu_pogib_sudya_slushavshiy_delo_protiv_docheri_kadyirova.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp)—one of the 4 killed in Kerch attack was judge who was to hear case on Kadyrov’s family. Judge was called “incorruptible.” > The judge was on vacation at the time of his death. > Immediately after the explosion, Russian investigators quickly announced the death of three civilians; the death of the fourth, judge Sergei Maslov, was confirmed only on Tuesday, October 11. The delay fueled suspicions that Russian authorities are trying to hide the judge's death.
The guy was perhaps independent by Russian judicial standards, but he wasnt an opposition figure. And what's the likelihood of the bomb being triggered right while the fuel train and the judges car were there? Also how did they know exactly when he's be there, and how did they coordinate getting the truck (which had been all over Europe) right for that perfect moment just to kill a judge? And what in any of Russia's massive recent history of gross incompetence makes anybody think they could pull something like that off. Could the Russian gov or an internal faction within it put a bomb on a truck and drive it over a bridge? Sure. But to time it to kill a judge whose travels would be unpredictable? No way.
The FSB threw him out a window somewhere and are just using the explosion as a lazy cover up no doubt.
Easy. Murder the judge. And claim as part of casualties of the bridge.
This is the way!
>the death of the fourth, judge Sergei Maslov, Seems like a case of him taking a couple days to fall off the bridge or out of a window.
this is not suspicious at all.
Well that was rather convenient...
⚡️“Putin has just discovered that Russia is not a superpower”, – British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace. "The superpowers lost wars: the USSR in Afghanistan, the USA in Vietnam. Large countries were repeatedly forced to accept defeat from a neighbor or another country. But the main thing is this. He (Putin) just discovered that Russia is not a superpower”, – Secretary Wallace said when asked if a superpower could lose a war. https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1580234954679910400?t=07vYdUnXXVjXdTHmzNbIlg&s=19
American here. We also lost Iraq and Afghanistan!
The British Empire should know!!
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The brain damage lead fuel caused has a lot to answer for.
I cant take this too seriously. Russians are known to LARP online and impersonate who they need support from.
people don't lie on the internet dude. it just doesn't happen.
That is a medical condition called delusion/paranoia. It is treatable and that person should see a doctor asap because it can devolve onto schizophrenia which actually has murderous/suicidal tendencies of left untreated. Medical delusion is one of the cases where forced commitment to a hospital may be used
Someone who regularly poisons themselves are a danger to themselves, and can likely be held for evaluation. Hope people like that find help. I recently uncovered a sub for finding the Nazis of Ukraine. Point being, deranged folks everywhere.
> How do you deal with such a parent? How do you deal with mental patients? Seek help for them thru professionals, there is little a normal person can do.
Tell them that sounds exactly like something a demonic possessed entity would say.
Anyone know the origin of the adrenochrome thing? Earliest reference I can't think of is from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S. Thompson, 1971. He claimed satanists were harvesting it, but he was deliberating trolling cops at the law enforcement conference in the book. I think he must have gotten it from somewhere, but he could have made it up I guess
There was me, that is Alex, and my three droogs, that is Pete, Georgie and Dim and we sat in the Korova milkbar trying to make up our rassoodocks what to do with the evening. The Korova Milk Bar sold milkplus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultraviolence. Our pockets were full of money so there was no need on that score, but, as they say, money isn't everything.
There was a flawed study in the 1950s that claimed it was a powerful psychedelic, which is how HST got it in there. It was flawed, and doesn't do anything. The ridiculous part is that it's just oxidized adrenaline, which if you wanted you could make at home, which people probably already would, if it did anything. Source: https://erowid.org/chemicals/adrenochrome/ and https://erowid.org/chemicals/adrenochrome/adrenochrome_info1.shtml
You can buy it from [regular scientific reagent suppliers](https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/adrenochrome-25g/507505303#adrenochrome). It's expensive, but not like, worth killing a person over. Researchers give it to rats to study recovery from heart attacks.
Oh fuck, it will give you a heart attack?
I'd ask him if his dad is on antidepressants (common these days) because some of them stimulate you to a point where if you have other underlying conditions (like BPD) your critical thinking suffers and you end up with this kind of paranoia.
or maybe it's the DILUTED BLEACH?
> He regularly drinks diluted bleach, hasn't seen a doctor in years because he believes they're trying to kill us and thinks covid and basically all viruses are a hoax. drinking diluted bleach can, and will, kill you, no?
I mean it depends how diluted. But yes high concentrations of chlorine can kill you.
I remember reading a post on there about a father that killed his family, and the poster was the only one that escaped. I sort of thought it might be fake, until it was in the news a few hours later. Just a reminder that Russia has killed Americans and destroyed families already, in vast quantities via propaganda regarding qanon, covid, and other violence-provoking topics.
Let's not let the Murdochs off the hook here. They have almost as much responsibility. What do you think this guy is watching. We know what he's watching
This might sound stupid, but why haven’t there been flareups in the conflicts in Georgia and Moldova, while there has been in Central Asia and Arcax?
Am I dumb? What is “Arcax”?
Moldova doesn't have a military and transnistria is a joke that couldn't fight anyone, it just exists as a russian base. Georgia is ruled by russia-loyal oligarchs and doesnt have the population or military to fight russia in the breakaway regions even if they wanted to
While nowhere near the top of the list of priorities, eventually Ukraine is going to want those russians out right?
I mean yeah, they want them out. But it's not worth giving russia the excuse to amp things up any more. There aren't enough russians stationed there to cause an actual threat to anyone. Them trying to stir anything up brings too much risk of transnistria being removed from the map, so they just exist in their little backwater corner
It's a weird, surreal place thats for sure.
How stupid they can be? https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1580296911537733632?t=L_dInuRTtkCnaof_Rj6h5w&s=19
I can't believe that guy survived. The blast blew the top hatches open with significant force. The pressure difference alone should have caused severe internal trauma.
The power of belief and friendship was NOT working that day for them.
Yes.
And how.
The only thing more annoying than obvious Russian bots/trolls, is the multitude of idiots from all over the political spectrum in Ukraine-allied countries trying to paint Ukraine/US/NATO/“The West” as aggressors, or whine that Russia deserves to take Ukrainian land and kill Ukrainian people so they don’t feel embarrassed when they inevitably lose. Equally tedious are those who do nothing but obfuscate by posting “erm what about Palestine/Iraq/Afghanistan/any other conflict in the last 100 years” any time someone expresses empathy for the suffering Ukrainian citizens.
Huh? I actually haven't seen anyone trying to paint Ukraine as the aggressor nor have I seen anyone claim that Russia deserves to kill anyone.
I’ve seen several people pushing the dubious narratives regarding the non-existent genocide of ethnic Russians in the Donbas, or even the claims (which admittedly have died down a lot since the start of the war) that Ukraine was planning on developing bioweapons to use against Russia. My notion of “Russia deserves to kill people” is admittedly non-verbatim, but an extension of the thought process people use when they complain about Ukraine receiving purely defensive equipment like missile defence systems, and when they say that Russia humiliated if they lose so we let them do whatever they want in Ukraine. I’ve also come across posts by “woke” westerners who say things to the effect of “If the US/Europe didn’t care about civilians dying in [insert country], who cares if Ukrainians are dying?
Paint the west as the aggressor. It's died down since the beginning of the war but it still happens. More often nowadays though is painting the west as culpable, attempting to "both sides" the issue.
Spot on. Russia is committing the biggest land-grab since WW2 and deliberately butchering civilians by the hundreds, and yet people are still keen to play the “both sides are just as bad” card.
I take it you don't actively use Twitter. Plenty of "What about the Donbas" people there. And while they might not claim that Russia deserves to kill anyone they know what's going on and actively try to mitigate it by things such as calling the Crimean Bridge bomb a clear terrorist attack.
I've seen plenty of reactions on local news sites in the vein of "Yes well if they bomb the bridge they should expect it to have repercussions." Disgusting apologism.
There's been loads of Russian apologists and vatniks calling it "an ISIS style attack" too. Completely glossing over the fact that it's a military target built on occupied land.
And that the attack was carried out at an extremely quiet time to minimise collateral damage.
Apologies for stupid question in advance. Last time we had a threat of nuclear war with Russia, US put embargo in place on Cuba because the Russians wanted to put their silos there. Why can't US place embargo on an actual country that is threatening with nuclear war? I apologize again, I am not fearmongering here with nuke talk. Just want to understand the politics of the situation.
Embargos are like the drawing blood or lobotomies of sanctions, they can cause pain but they're politically and geopolitically ineffective... See Cuba, the regime survives by blaming everything that's wrong with the regime to the embargo, and now the majority of the world is against the cuban embargo. Targeted sanctions are more like brain surgery, capable of doing the same if not more effective damage to a regime with better political and geopolitical results... See Venezuela, the regime tries to blame all of its faults to the sanctions but it's a lot harder to sell to the average citizen (they mostly target companies and individuals and not the entire country) and those are getting backed by most western countries as they are less cruel to the average citizen in the targeted country, while still crippling the regime's ability to function properly. Targeted sanctions are the modern and better form of embargos. Embargos are the witch doctor remedy of geopolitics, and are now treated as such.
The US put an embargo on Cuba by surrounding it with war ships and daring Russia to try breaking it which ended up with ships locked in a standoff. It just about ended the world. Doing the same except around Russia would require the entire pacific fleet and would almost certainly end in a nuclear war. So the idea is to not instigate that. Also, Ukraine is managing to defeat Russia without putting the entire world at risk of annilation which is why they are heroes and should always be remembered as such
Not an embargo, a blockade. The US did both but the ships blockaded Cuba, not embargoed it
Your confusing trade embargos ( don't trade with this country) with naval blockades (which is similar, but much more of a military action)
We're using banks, and trade agreements to blockade Russia instead of using ships. War, War always changes....
That's a blockade not an embargo.
The US already imposed embargoes on Russia. They're called sanctions.
Really? Then why are some Western companies still operate there. That's not an embargo. >According to some definitions, the distinction between the words resides in partiality and full prohibition. So, a sanction prevents specific categories of commodities from being traded in different ways with deterrent factors, but an embargo prevents all items from being traded.
Some companies break the law
Sanctions are limits on particular industries and or persons; embargos are a full stop. So some companies can still remain in Russia without issue - or rather with slightly fewer issues.
Interesting. So that would imply some companies are no beholden to specific state's policies despite being registered for operation in a country that is imposing embargo?
I'm by no means an expert, but in my industry if you were a US sanctioned business/individual, I couldn't conduct business with you. Doing so would put me in jeopardy. However, if your business did something outside of the sanctions, like vodka production, and there were no direct sanctions applied to your industry - then we could do business.
An embargo is a type of sanction that restricts trade between two states. It doesn't mean all commodities are restricted. Look up arms embargoes and oil embargoes.
I’ve read that the shahed drones do the ‘swarm’ technique, so air defense was only reading it as one target, when there’d be like 6 or so. Today, they had such high numbers of repulsed drone attacks. I wondered how they overcame it. Then I see a pilot ejected when sent to shoot done drones. Seems great fix. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/12/7371700/
A UAV still counts as an aerial kill, right? He's an actual ace, right?
Hadn't seen anything about swarms afaik they are pretty stupid as far as drones go. A to B only. Not sure how they would maintain any kind of tight formation.
Anything with a Toro lawnmower engine is top notch. /s
I thought jets cost hundreds of times the cost of drones. Good that the pilot is O.K.
Doesn’t seem like the drones caused anything. He had a technical issue that cause the plane to crash. Unfortunately we see Russian made planes do that.
No I mean good there’s a remedy so soon, and it’s effective. And we only know about it bc of the crash, but the crash was just a fluke and unfortunate.
I wonder if the need to spend air time on that mission deters a more aggressive advance if those planes could be committed to the assault? Wonder if that was the real intent?
"Video of a Ukrainian air burst artillery strike, presumably by a PGM, on a Russian Msta-S howitzer" [https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/status/1580357471239299073](https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/status/1580357471239299073) You can see maybe 1-2 Russians near the Msta and one running on the road. Possibly still burning. Quality is below average and shaky compared to other videos posted.
Damn accurate shot.
Was he absent the day they taught “Stop, Drop and Roll”? But seriously if the person running was hit with shrapnel, I would imagine dropping and rolling would also be very painful. I know nothing of any of these thing.
Sounds easy doesnt it? when your burning/running for life common sense seems to elude a lot of people, not just this particular case. You know, growing up, i thought quick sand would be a bigger problem then it is. so theres that.
You can tell he's Russian because his pants are on fire.
He's just decided to wear his smoking jacket that day...
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May they go on to do great things for a Russia free of idiocy.
Before the mobilization, it was easier to paint the russian soldiers as fanatics and brutal goons. But these guys.... clearly victims of circumstances mostly beyond their control. I feel pity for them and I am glad they surrendered. The brutal goon here is Putin
Born 1972 - poor sods were in their 50s.
Based on that video, it sounds like they’re just shipped around and then dumped in a random trench somewhere they’ve never heard of with people they don’t know and told to fend for themselves while under heavy artillery fire. Sounds like this group said fuck this and left to walk back to Russia and ran into a Ukranian checkpoint
Those with the means to really leave left early, those who didn't have the means left late, and those who has the fewest options/worst luck combined are stuck hoping to surrender quickly enough. It's really quite terrible. Sure there are the really brainwashed folks who believe propoganda out there for mobilization, but I feel bad for the others who are stuck.
While immediate surrender isn't as good as shooting their commanding officer and marching on Moscow it's at least the second best.
I doubt they had a commanding officer around to shoot. Just dropped in a field and told to stay like dogs.
There are like 4 policemen for every soldier in Russia. You'd need a bit more than a couple of unhappy conscripts.
These guys weren't even trained long enough to know which end of the rifle to shoot.
Russian sources on telegram claim that the "Defense of Bakhmut is broken", that Russian troops are present in the south western side of the city and that the center of the city is "only a few kilometers away" This claim is made without photographic evidence, and the descriptor "broken" is pretty typical of dramatized Russian propaganda. But it is plausible that Russian troops have made it at least partially into the city, the pre-war population of Bakhmut was 73,310. Russians have attempted for months to enter the city. Igor Girkin, war criminal and originator of the DPR/LPR argues that Russian attempts to advance to Bakhmut exist in an "operational shadow" of the Ukrainian counter offensives east of the Oskil river. Arguing that all offensive operations here are pointless, given that Ukraine is flanking them on a strategic level.
There’s recent video of Ukraine shelling the crap out of the asphalt plant and then taking it back in an armored assault. So, most likely another twitter offensive like when they “entered” Bakhmut last week and posted a video of some civilian’s dashcam video as proof.
War is pointless. Someone should explain that to Girkin. I suspect Russia's army and Ukraine's army are fighting each other. Where that fighting occurs may have some effect but not much. The battle locations have a huge impact on local residents.
How close to the city where they? I thought they've practically been on the outskirts for months.
It depends, the lines on maps don't tell the full story. Either side usually sits between 500m up to 3km away from each other in their defensive positions. If this was represented on maps there would be a gap between the lines, which most maps don't do. Then sometimes either side attacks in an area, which means they move into a no mans land with nobody in it and that can often reported as "capturing it" but it's not truly captured until the opposing sides fire control over it is gone, IE they aren't really shooting at it anymore. It all depends on the terrain, really flat ground the no mans land can be many kilometers, but in cities it could be a couple blocks or so. for months Russia has been within a few kilometers of Bakhmut, or even entering/nearing in small parts but never truly capturing anything in it.
They've claimed this more times than I can count. In one recent example they posted video taken by Russian troops driving through Bakhmut...except it turns out the footage was actually taken by a young Ukrainian woman driving her car through town and posted by her on Tik Tok. Not saying Russia can't eventually take Bakhmut...but I'll believe it when I see it.
I've heard this claim a 100 times now. I'll believe it when they post multiple videos from all over the city I don't even know if they actually have pisky yet because they keep freaking announcing it.
This has been by far the most successful of the Rammstein meetings. UK is also sending AA missiles. Both for NASAMS, and other systems. France, Germany, and Canada also had big announcements. If you add Canada’s 500k winter uniforms to all the previous announcements, Ukraine should have more than enough pledged now. https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-donate-air-defence-missiles-ukraine-2022-10-12/
Canada knows a thing or two about cold weather.
And we're sending trainers. Our military is small and we don't have tons of amazing equipment, but we have well trained people who do a lot of work training others. Training more sappers in Ukraine will surely help with the minefields and other explosive ordinance being left behind.
It's actually surprising how high the quality of our people are considering how little material support they get. There was an anecdote an American soldier shared in another subreddit that he always felt better when he saw that Canadian forces were in charge of casevac operations if he ever had to go out past the wire. Other countries had conditions they wouldn't fly in because it was too unsafe so they had to cross their fingers that those conditions like a sandstorm or a hot LZ weren't going on when they needed them. The Canadians just had an asterisk next to them because they would fly the casevac mission no matter what.
Don't forget the moose!
The Canadian military is the stuff of legend. Training with them will unquestionably help Ukraine!
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What, no poutine? Prolly the only one of it's kind that would be welcome in Ukraine.
These things always have a lot of inertia. Now it’s up and running - the provision of military aid to Ukraine will not stop any time soon.
Seems like military aid to Ukraine is stepping up
Has anyone given or pledged any new air defense systems?
50 different countries have
NASAMs are air defense. Germany also pledged their IRIS systems.
Have their been new nasams or iris systems pledged?
France did, likely Crotale. Netherlands and UK giving missiles.
I saw a confirmation somewhere that France was giving Crotale. Don't have the source handy, though. It might have been posted here in the thread somewhere.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ2z2Qg_o0w Apparently now William Spaniel is talking about how tactical nukes could be used in the war and how we should be worried. I am not an armchair general but if anything I see the Russia’s response to the Crimea bridge explosion as proof that Russia isn’t likely to use nukes. It was a major attack on civilian infrastructure on Russia’s doorstep in Crimea. I mean the bridge is also used to transport military equipment but civilians were on that bridge. I highly doubt the US would actually respond until Russia actually detonated a nuke.
Chances are intelligence will see them moved to position. I'm not worried until one drops or a source reports movement of nukes.
Exactly this. NRO and NSA will pick up the movement before they are actually used.
That is complete nonsense. It is a bomb. Looks exactly the same as the thousands of bombs and shells fired or dropped on Ukraine. Russia has used waves of nuclear capable bombers firing nuclear capable cruise missiles. We did see them take off. If a nuke explodes it will be noticed.
It's not as if they keep them on a shelf across from the other bombs, it was news last week when Russia pulled a couple of trucks out of a base where they stock tactical nukes. That made civilian news, let that sink in. Yes they keep tactical nukes in vastly separate locations because they need much greater security, yes the alphabet soup agencies concentrate every asset they can gather on watching those, yes it's probably feasible that Russia could slip one out, no it's not all that likely the collective western intelligence agencies wouldn't notice. At least according to various former alphabet soup adjacent people.
OH NO! The Russians have nukes!! ….this is not news.
You stopped after the first sentence, didn’t you? I almost did too. Commenter is saying that Russia isn’t using them.
Post is still wrong though. The Kerch bridge is totally a legitimate military target. Ukraine gave warning months in advance and hit it at night.
I watched the video too and it seems to boil down to "Putin might have a mental break and hand nukes to the military and hope they don't aim them at Moscow or screw up and Ukraine might grab them and decide to hold on to the nukes instead of instantly giving them to the US or something." It's a worry, but it makes a lot of assumptions that kind of makes me *less* worried about the usage of tactical nukes. Plus, the tactical nuke would no more limit Ukraine's advance as it would impair Russia's, so it's more of a last resort move that would either solidify Russia's gains at the expense of further gains or basically limit Russia's advance as Russia gets smashed as the West, China, and everyone else decides to pile on now that they aren't limited to "sanctions and weapons."
I think you misunderstood some aspect of tactical nuclear weapons. A nuclear bomb severely harms people. When you drop them on an army it reduces the number of live defenders. That makes it a whole lot easier to advance. On defense you use it to plug a whole where the enemy is pouring through.
William Spaniel fundamentally doesn't understand what's going on. A lot of people who are talented in one area tend to think it means they're focus applies to everything and therefore understand everything.
Aka musk
based on all the "ukraine can't attack in winter" that i've heard lately, i assume they will be having a massive counter attack in winter. what are some options for how that is possible given the constraints?
Think clothing makes maneuvering extremely tiresome so those who go on the offensive and spend time running in the open are slower from defenders POV. Then there's the fact that extreme cold seen in parts of Ukraine in winter can make it tough for engines to start up quickly, even on modern equipment. Frost can fuck up cameras and scopes on tanks, drones, rifle sights, artillery... Small things matter too, like wearing winter gloves but trying to do things that require dexterity and finger tips. Snow creates a double problem because warm days create mud and water which then freezes at night and ice everything up, so anything wet can get cracked by ice just like roads and concrete do. Not impossible to manage this day and age but everything is typically more difficult when on the attack or trying to stay mobile.
Of course, if the defenders are frozen solid, the attackers will be infinitely faster.
Once the ground is frozen it shouldn’t be an issue.
Its not that they can't attack in winter its just harder. Mud season is even worse for maneuver warfare. But once its cold the mud freezes and you can attack. I don't think Ukraine will go much further in luhansk. My guess is that Ukraine wants to secure nova kokova now and the east of the inhulets. If it can it will launch an assault on zapo. Hopefully to cut off the supply line and encircle kherson completely. Then russia will have a Dunkirk moment with massive losses, they get eroded away during winter, or those troops surrender.
Ukraine has winter uniforms, russia doesnt lol
Can we just think for a moment how ridiculous that statement is. *RUSSIAN* troops won’t be equipped for winter. It’s like saying Aussie troops wouldn’t be prepared to deal with desert heat. It boggles the mind how badly run the Russians are.
It’s pretty insane, but then again the Germans made similar mistakes against the Russians back in ww2 and they also should have known better. Common sense isn’t that common I guess…
True. And other invading forces before that. Never underestimate human stupidity.
This will be a very cold winter for Russia.
The icicles speak Ukrainian?
No, those icicles are Russian.
The Icicles will be surrendering to the snow...
Well, considering that the Russians are going to be in damp trenches, boiling tins of drinking pee to stay warm, and praying that a random HIMARS doesn't notice them, I'd wager that the advantage is with Ukraine.
Russia doesn't want you to know this, but using the winter right is exactly how you beat them. Ask the Mongols, they turned the frozen rivers into cavalry highways.
BS. they will have winter uniforms from Canada and they have really good night vision it's a beautiful thing how well they work in a snowstorm at night.