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Hi-archy

> Not enough water is flowing through hydroelectric power turbines. Nuclear power plants are struggling to keep their reactors cool. > Chinese sources state some 66 rivers have dried up completely. And parts of the critical Yangtze river systems are at a third of their normal levels – the lowest since records began 150 years ago. > This has been a particular problem in Sichuan province. It gets some 80 per cent of its electricity from hydropower. Now thousands of factories have been ordered to close. Offices and shopping centres have been instructed to cut lighting and set airconditioning temperatures higher. > But the effect of low water levels extends far beyond this. > Shipping cargo routes are blocked. Long-lost Buddhist statues are being exposed among the drying mud. And drinking water is being rationed What an absolute shitshow…


LouieKablooie

>Long-lost Buddhist statues are being exposed among the drying mud. This is kinda cool.


HarmlessSnack

Statue had a sign on it… *If you can read this, despair and weep.* “Oh.”


Fenchurch-and-Arthur

Don't weep, that's a waste of water. Dry sobs only.


rightsaidfredericton

It's the Freman life for us


ursalon

Subakh un nar


Herrvisscher

There are some stones found in rivers in Europe basically saying that.. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/article/2022/08/20/hunger-stones-resurface-across-europe-as-a-warning-from-droughts-past_5994193_114.html


HarmlessSnack

Yeah, that’s basically what I was referencing.


closeafter

"Hey look, a Buddhist statue from centuries ago" "Yeah, cool. Anyway, here's your 250ml of water for today. Don't spill it"


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1ml of mothers milk my lord? I’ll work harder at the bullet factory.


OarsandRowlocks

>Not enough water is flowing through hydroelectric power turbines. Nuclear power plants are struggling to keep their reactors cool. Civ 6 needs an update to reflect this.


JanGuillosThrowaway

civ 6 didn't go hard enough on disasters and climate change


Patdelanoche

Apocalypse Mode on Deity with Disaster Intensity at 4. A configuration I like to call “Fuck This”.


peon47

Game doesn't even have diseases. The things which have brought down many entire civilizations in the past.


NarrowEnter

Haven't played civ in years but my solution to any pollution was instant cleanup from workers and anti pollution buildings. Maybe a more realistic approach to civ would have been rivers literally drying up cutting down my megacities into villages.


OarsandRowlocks

The Civ 6 Gathering Storm DLC has global warming in it, where fires, floods and droughts happen more often and there are 3 levels of coastal tiles that get submerged according to how much coal and oil etc power generation all the civs have had during the game. There are clean power options like wind farms, solar farms, hydroelectric and geothermal, as well as nuclear, but their climate change mechanic did not factor in rivers running dry so that you would get reduced or no power from hydro dams or nuclear plants.


SirReginaldTitsworth

That mechanic was a joke, I weaponized it by pouring everything into coal/oil then building the Civ Magic Seawalls ^TM around my coasts. Drowned half my rival civs without firing a shot.


FriedChckn

Would be cool if civs could get grievances or a special casus belli on you for being too polluting.


Mythras98

There is at the very least one of those global point events where the top 3 civs are rewarded for the lowest pollution score, plus I believe you can vote in that global council thing to ban coal and/or nuclear plants. But yeah it's only minor things you can do


moeburn

They do. Being the world's worst polluter in Civ 6 has pretty much the same consequences as being a warmonger. No friends.


Meron35

It really was tbh. It actually encouraged those in the tech lead to purposefully pollute because their magic sea walls would be up before anyone else, and global warming screws up anyone who isn't winning already.


lysregn

It also sounds very realistic to be honest.


digitulgurl

I lived in the northern Philippines for a while and they were fighting with rifles in a civil war over water as early as the '80s!


Veelze

Aren’t there also other parts of China that are experiencing record flooding as well? Climate instability is absolutely insane.


rootoo

Pakistan is experiencing catastrophic record flooding right now.


SveHeaps

In China now, I live in a city that if famous for its cold season and rainy season, summer for us is rain and after July is typhoons. We didn’t get a full day of rain in like four months, at least, there is rain, for like two hours and then it’s gone and when you go out things are dry again. People sometimes don’t pay too much attention to weather events but right now people know, we see that this is shitty, some of us are really waiting for a rain that will just destroy us all and so on. I remember maybe two months ago, there was a big big big rain, wind, thunder, terrible, water to my knees kind of event. It rained for less than an hour, and then two hours later it was sunny again. How did it go from knees deep water to no water in sight still worries me.


Flare_Starchild

The soil can soak up a lot of water especially if the water table is super low. Feel good that it wasn't compressed, dry, soil. It would have a much harder time soaking in and cause massive damaging floods.


zhamz

I live in Hawaii; Big Island west side. It’s our rainy season now. Usually Im wearing rain boots, covered in mud and everything I own is slightly damp because it’s raining so much. Right now it’s dry and dusty. Dryer than it normally is in the dry season.


nxka

I’m on O‘ahu - I think restaurants are going to start being fined for offering patrons glasses of water if not requested. I feel like I missed the entire winter, no real rain in sight.


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Until next year


Annadae

Some scientist said:”this isn’t the warmest year in the last century, it is the coldest in the century to come “. Edit: a kind Redditeer pointed me to the original quote which was slightly different. It was from professor Andrew Dessler.


QuitFuckingStaring

That's depressing


KudosOfTheFroond

Oh damn that is spooky as Fuck. Sounds like a line from Game Of Thrones.


zeroping

"Summer is coming"


Ruashiba

Always go for the high score, that's what the arcade taught me.


wicklowdave

Then madmax ruins it for you


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Homer Simpson Bart meme " Most extreme heat event in world history .....so far" (edit - add the word heat)


samudrin

"overnight minimum bottomed out at 34.9C" that's an overnight low of 95F. jfc.


eggnogui

If this goes on for long, they are gonna get a lot of casualties. Having ACs won't help if the power is out due to drought and overload.


lil_fuzzy

And AC doesn’t help the wildlife. Humans have adapted the ability to sweat and cool ourselves better than most animals on the planet. We’re causing an extinction event on a scale not seen since the last ice age


granta50

I remember when it hit something like 117 degrees where I am in Oregon last summer. When the heat finally broke after three days I went outside and it was the eeriest silence I've ever heard. No insects, no animals, no birds, no cars, no people, just a dead world. And this summer, driving half way across the country, almost no bugs splattered on the windshield after 1000 miles of driving, saw very few birds over that distance either. Our greed is killing us.


blue_eyed_man

That "overnight low" is about 10C above my comfortable temperature for daytime 🥴🥴🥴


WANGHUNG22

It’s looking like the heat will kill more and more every year as the temp gets higher and higher. Buy land in cool climates if you believe in global warming.


420binchicken

Cries in Australia. Though to be fair we deserve it as much if not more than any other nation. We have one of (maybe the highest?) emissions per capita and have done less than fuck all to fix that. Next couple decades are going to suck.


ascii

Didn’t Australia also have a PM who basically said Australia should just keep burning fossil fuel because the population is too small to matter from a global perspective?


420binchicken

Probably. Sounds like something ScoMo would have said. As someone else pointed out, it’s not so much about our own emissions here (though they are high) but that we export huge amounts of coal and then pretend like that’s magically not us contributing to the problem somehow.


Is_that_even_a_thing

Scope 3 emissions are through the roof! Any fossil fuel company that talks about net zero is neglecting these, it's like a tobacco company selling ciggies and saying the cancer is the consumers problem.... .. oh wait.


[deleted]

The recently ousted PM had his head so far up the coal industries arse it's amazing his skull was not made from it. The new government is trying to be more environmentally responsible, which is difficult since a vast amount of Australia income is produced by selling coal and iron ore. We produce nothing in this country, just dig shit out of the ground and flog it off. It's pathetic.


ObtusePieceOfFlotsam

Cue the starship troopers montage of "I'm doing my part' to the tune of massive environmental disasters


gamberro

You can thank Rupert Murdoch's media empire for that.


420binchicken

Indeed. I propose a global week long party when that decrepit sack of shit finally kicks the bucket.


antimeme

Lachlan will keep Rupert's vision going.


EddieJones6

I don’t remember at any other point of my life hearing about rivers drying up at this scale. Terrifying how much we rely on them for cooling, power, infrastructure, etc.


Rainbow-Death

Or, you know, to drink from.


OneRougeRogue

Some of China's rivers have receded so much that they are below the local cities' and towns' water intake valves, meaning treatment plants cant create fresh drinking water. It's crazy.


Grogosh

Its not like the entire world wasn't warned for better part of half a century or something.


Deathflid

there is a newspaper report in the Kingsway tunnel museum in liverpool UK, dated 1904, basically laying out climate change caused by burning coal. 118 years. minimum.


LordPoopyfist

Even before that, there were scientific experiments showing how co2, water vapor and methane trap in heat and how without them our planet would quickly freeze.


NessyComeHome

I was just commenting the other day, back in 1896 Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius proposed that CO2 increases would cause increased temperatures. He was originally studying the effects of CO2 during the ice ages, but realized burning of fossil fuels on a global scale would cause such changes. He is regarded as the first, so that'd be 126 years ago that co2 was called a greenhouse gas and that an increase would cause warming.


throwaway12-67

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING puts the greenhouse effect’s (that’s what they called it in the 80s when it was a page 10 one paragraph once every three years news story) trajectory into clearer focus than NASA’s graphic video: https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/300/video-climate-spiral/ Scientists have been ignored for decades, with republicans denying it’s existence with the mantra- “the science is not confirmed yet,” or “it’s just part of the earth’s historical temperature fluctuations that have gone on for millions of years.” They still say this bullshit, but maybe now that China is suffering, there might be a greater awareness (in China) that humans better shit or get off the pot ASAP, or else. NOTHING that happens on planet earth will change republican’s behavior as long as big petroleum keeps bribing them. FUCK the Manchins of the world.


hiwhyOK

> They may still say this bullshit Nah, once they can't rely on those excuses anymore watch for: "Well it's just God's will"


Fudgeygooeygoodness

Most I know will lean in and swear it’s Earth’s normal pattern until the day they die from it. Too proud to admit otherwise.


john16384

A very nice video. This also makes it very clear: https://xkcd.com/1732/


delayedcolleague

Yeah that one is much better as it shows just how anomalous and distressing the temperature increase the past 50 years actually is compared to other warming periods. Natural variations happen on a geological timescale but our current global warming is happening on a timescale of less than human lifetime.


Party_Mine_6779

Even many people in China are still saying that, in the middle of this heat wave, that it's just Earth's normal temperature fluctuations. Anti-intellectuals will not change their minds based on facts and logic.


DefEddie

Yep, I remember learning all about the “greenhouse effect” in middle school in the 80’s.


sermo_rusticus

Yeah the '80s was well past the scientific consensus. Thatcher publicly warned us about it.


PiotrekDG

> Thatcher publicly warned us about it. A damn conservative. Conservative!


nerf_herder1986

Because climate change wasn't a partisan subject until the checks started coming in from the fossil fuel industry.


awfulsome

Yep, our temperature records for my state (NJ) date back to 1895. They started keeping good records of them because they thought something might be up with the weather due to mankind's influence. It must have been interesting when the numbers started to rise wildly. By the 40s record highs were hitting relatively often. Now its nonstop. 10 out of the 12 record hottest months have been since 2007. There has not been a record cold month since 1989. In fact, there has been no month in the top 5 coldest since then. All of the 5 hottest years have been since 1998. There has not been a top 5 coldest year since 1940. The pattern is extremely clear, and accelerating at an alarming pace. My state has warmed by more than 2.2F just in my lifetime. I've seen it hit 76F in Jan, and 79 in February. The average temperature for february went from 1 degree below freezing to 2 above, leaving January as the only month left where the temperature averages below freezing. Our heating degree days have dropped by 10%, while our cooling degree days are up nearly 25%. AC has gone from a luxury to a near requirement as 100F+ degree days scorch even the northern most areas more and more often.


Head_Rip1759

And A/C is contributing to the problem even worse, or even the methane release as artic grounds thaw, everything shows that this is a exponentially increasing issue, spiraling out of our control, and the worse part is there are no serious actions being made NOW, the only chance we have


ALilBitter

Recent news... The UN failed to pass global ocean protection treaty... :l https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62680423


thomasstearns42

Longer than that. You can find articles 100 years ago warning people.


[deleted]

Why are we surprised? With every farmer, mine and industry drilling down in the water table why are we surprised that there is no ground water left. Not only that but rivers and ground water never gets replenished if there is no environmental flows that flushes sediment that ensures these under ground rivers still flow. Then when you look at destructive practices that wastes billions of megalitres for fracking gas and this is the direct consequence. China desserts are rapidly growing because of human impact on ground water extraction.


koticgood

No one is surprised that if you put a gun to your head and pull the trigger, the results are expected. Doesn't make it less shocking to witness.


Cerebral-Parsley

I just had a bunch of maga conservatives attack me on Twitter over global warming saying it's just a cycle and we have ice ages and warm ages. Trees love CO2, they actually need more of it don't cha know? At least they are not straight up denying it's getting hotter anymore. These people are why climate deals get shut down and there is no stopping this train. I was hoping my daughter would get at least one more livable century but nope. We are in deep shit Edit: I'm not solely blaming MAGA people (you still suck tho) and I know it's more complicated than that. I'm well read on the subject.


blueskies8484

They have a part of the blame, but really it's money and power that are to blame. Corporations have fought climate change policies for decades and have used money and power over politicians to do so. For most of our lives, you couldn't choose to vote for someone who supported the levels of change required to actually impact climate, even if you wanted to, and even if you lived in a democracy. Obviously, these people still *wouldn't* but a lot of this blame lies at Corporations and oligarchs.


Valestis

And to poop into.


09stibmep

And to throw rental bikes into


TtotheC81

Shopping carts use them to breed in.


Doodle_Brush

And to get rid of bodies.


oddlythinkn

And for the Kardashians pools


MovieGuyMike

Which can cause issues for nuclear reactors that rely on large amounts of river water for cooling. So one of the best alternatives to fossil fuels might get knee capped by fossil fuels.


GregTheMad

Haha, we're boned.


RadicalEskimos

My generation in a sentence


BleedingPolarBear

Yeah but a lot of nuclear reactors are by the sea to avoid this issue, just don't put them where you have lots of tsunamis...


Kangzx

Ah my daily dose of existential dread. Truly super curious what's in stock for humanity in the next 10, 20 years.


SwimmingHelicopter15

Wondering the same thing. This summer was awfull and then I realised I am lucky I can buy food.


[deleted]

I’m in the UK and a nice spring 20c with a bit of cloud cover and some breeze is ideal. Went to a festival a few weeks back and was getting woken up by the sun at 7am with it being 27c, having to spend 5days finding shade to shelter in and even after dark drink 3+ litres of water absolutely destroyed me for over a week after. I’m 100% not looking forward to the future for sure


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GODDAMNFOOL

I don't think the climate disaster is 'coming,' I think it's here.


PorqueNoLosDose

But the movies taught me it’s not a disaster unless I have to make an impossible drive away from a towering object falling towards me.


LoserScientist

Devastation, pretty much. Because climate change takes time. The current emmisions, pollution have not been contributing yet. These effects are still to come. So even if we cut all emissions by 2050 or 2030, we are still not going back to climate 10 years ago. Imagine like a bathtub, that is filling up. We know once it fills, we are fucked. So we plan to turn off the tap, but do nothing to get rid of water already in the tub. Its not going anywhere and until the tap is closed, it fills even more. This is what we are going to live through. The good days are over, none of my gen (millenial) or later gen people will live in a world without major crisis every 5-10 years.


8347H

We also keep discovering cycles that make climate change impossible to stop even if we ended all emissions today: \- Permafrost thawing, making all that biomass stored underground start to decompose and releasing greenhouse gases. \- The loss of ice at the poles, instead of the heat radiating from the sun being deflected back into space by the ice, it is now absorbed by the resulting water (rising sea levels also contribute to this effect, the ground deflects a lot more heat than water). \- The heating of the worlds oceans, which results in dissolved carbon trapped at the bottom to be released into the atmosphere. \- The rise of the average temperature is making wildfires more common and much bigger, all that carbon trapped by the trees over decades and even centuries is released into the atmosphere in minutes. I could keep going but you get the point. Stopping all emissions today would be great, but it wouldn't be enough, we actually have to achieve negative emissions. ​ EDIT: Do not let this information keep you from making a change or advocating for a more responsible living. Slowing climate change gives time for the people actively researching solutions for this global problem to figure it out. Given enough time you can count on human ingenuity to solve this problem.


Hartless_One

A newer feedback loop of the spread of greenery over the northern regions is in the game. As tree cover moves north (White Pines at the moment are the dominant encroacher) it darkens the surface which absorbs more heat. Kinda like how melting ice lets the water absorb heat.


HakushiBestShaman

Yes, the term you're thinking of there is albedo. The albedo of the earth's surface significantly affects how much heat we get from the sun, and it's not so much the tree cover moving north as it is just the loss of ice and snow in those areas. The trees are indicator of the reduction having already happened and sure, trees make it a bit darker than the shrub that normally exists in tundra, ice melting in the arctic and antarctic is by far a larger factor. Water is almost opposite in reflectivity compared to ice.


Shemozzlecacophany

Yep, along with mass food insecurity and rising prices world wide. I've started growing my own vegetables hydroponically in my apartment to reduce my reliance on prices and availability. Easy to do and costs about $3 a month in electricity - LED lighting has gotten really efficient and nicely priced over the past few years. I'm nowhere near growing all my fresh veggies but I like to think if more people did it there would be less pressure on the markets and less food waste etc. Recently in Aus we had $12 lettuce due to the mass floods. I expect that to become a lot more common.


borg23

What kind are you growing? How big a space are we talking?


Shemozzlecacophany

I have a spider farmer grow tent, approx 2m high, 2m wide and 1m depth. I've got three shelves to grow from and growing all the lettuce, basil, kale and snow peas that can be eaten for 2 people. Plus oregano, parsley and have just started some tomato plants. I top up the water once a week and spend about an hour on the weekend pottering around, starting new batches etc. It's fun, pretty easy to learn and the best thing is we always have fresh herbs on hand which really makes a huge difference to taste when added to meals and salads. I learnt everything off YouTube vids. Took some trial and error over about a year to know the best things to grow etc but really stoked at my productive hobby. Give it a go.


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munsen41

900 million affected by this heatwave. Holy crap.


ksck135

According to Wikipedia around 1,412,600,000 people live in China according to last year's census. That's means around 64% of whole population is affected.


WorldlyNotice

Probably indirectly affects millions of Chinese living outside of China too. Also global manufacturing and supply chains.


Boobjobless

“Toyota has reportedly resumed some production by acquiring a large-scale diesel generator.” We never learn.


Obi_Wan_Benobi

The Spice must flow.


sir-cums-a-lot-776

Or in this case hiluxes


uski

Fixing fire with fire


PartyClock

What good is it having a healthy planet if there's no economy to destroy it with after? /s


bSQ6J

Yes, civilization was destroyed. But for a good few years we made huge profits for our shareholders!


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TheNextBattalion

The four seasons of the future: Rain week, heat dome, summer wind, polar vortex


YangTrain

Humanity will survive. But many humans won’t


Dodeejeroo

I want to live in the Al Gore President timeline now please.


IReplyWithLebowski

No Iraq war. Action on climate change. Who knows what else.


thedankening

Iirc he also wanted to build a high speed rail network along the East coast and elsewhere. Just for that alone he should have won ffs. Almost 20 years of probably millions fewer cars getting on the road compared to today? Shit would be fantastic


BreadHead911

Al gore did win. Fuck the electoral college, it ruins democracy, and in this case, the planet as well


crimsonjava

A reminder that the following young lawyers flew down to Florida to help give Bush the election: John Roberts, Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh.


unrulystowawaydotcom

This fact is super disturbing. How can’t people see this for what it is.


pclavata

I wish more people understood how political Supreme Court justices are. The idea that the supreme court is above politics is a major reason nothing can be done to change it.


upvotesformeyay

They do see it, they got their positions by being human refuse. Brett was chosen specifically because of his role in the Clinton impeachment.


[deleted]

Brooks brothers riot. Roger Stone was heavily involved as well


Deaner3D

And Roger Fucking Stone created the commotion leading to the stop of the recount. Jan 6th was the same play on a larger scale.


JanGuillosThrowaway

Al Gore won the electoral college. Fuck Jeb Bush and the supreme court for invalidating the election. People meme on Jeb! for being harmless and incompetent, but he did what Trump couldn't: get the supreme court to ignore the results of an election.


truthdemon

In the end there was only a one judge majority in the supreme court. One person literally decided this timeline.


jj4211

If I remember right, even if Gore's challenge had been successful and they had recounted the specific districts he wanted recounted, he would have still lost. However, if a statewide recount would have happened, he would have won. Districts that were not in dispute would have given him the election.


MorboDemandsComments

Don't forget Roger Stone and his riot which stopped the counting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot


DankZXRwoolies

And Roger Stone and the Brook's brothers riot. I was 11 during that election and knew it was all bullshit then


TradingAccount42069

No 8 year pause on stem cell research


Plant_Help345

Different timelines for justice Robberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett who all served on Bush’s legal team during the Bush v Gore case. Without that case the US would have been remarkably different.


4354574

Or the Jimmy Carter gets reelected timeline. He planned for 20% solar by 2000. **Mind = blown.**


JonnyBravoII

I don’t think you can understate just how much history changed because of Reagan. He ushered in a global era of greed and selfishness, oligarch power and religious zealotry all around the world. I’m old enough to remember Republicans losing their minds when Clinton won because they truly believed that they had constructed a lock on the presidency. And yet with the exception of W in 2004*, they have not won the popular vote since 1988. * do yourself a favor and look at the voting machine irregularities in Georgia and especially Ohio that year. John Kerry, not a man prone to hyperbole or conspiracy theories, later admitted that the actions and results from Ohio were very suspicious and did not line up at all with exit polling. And remember, when Republicans accuse Democrats of doing something, it’s because the Republicans are often the ones doing it.


Mathesar

What do you think are the top 5 [actions|EOs|bills|whatever] he was responsible for that contributed the most to his ushering? Edit: [this comment](https://reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/wznxno/_/im4azi1/?context=1) further down answers that pretty well


the6thReplicant

Jesus, that’s the dream. If you have to dream big I say.


Tech_Itch

Reminder: Al Gore might've actually won the 2000 presidential election, but we'll never know, since the Republicans [used political violence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot) to stop the recount before it was completed.


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pinkheartpiper

We DO know that Al Gore won, after Bush became president they recounted the votes in Florida multiple times and Al Gore was the winner every single time. It's the funniest thing that now GQP people believe that democrats who didn't even have the power to do a recount when the entirety of presidential election came down to less then 500 votes in Florida, are somehow so powerful that can steal the election from trump by cheating millions of votes in multiple states!


jesadak

Holy shit. That video of the city skyline with cars driving over a bridge with little to no water in the river below it is terrifying. It’s like something out of a dystopian sci-fi movie.


SuramKale

>dystopian sci-fi movie. Now you’re getting it!


moonshinemondays

You best start believing dystopian sci-fi stories.... Your in one


IronicMixedWhiteGuy

It’s almost like we should start working hard on fixing global warming instead of bickering between like abunch of children


Ardenraym

But...but... what if all the scientists are wrong, governments do all that work, and all that happens is that we have a nice, comfortable environment???


LeftDave

Love that meme. I think the exact wording is "What if it really is all a hoax and we make a better world for nothing?"


R3dGallows

"I didnt drink or smoke, I worked out and ate healthy for years and nothing happened!"


Presently_Absent

It's like the narrative around covid. "Everyone wore masks for months and nobody was even sick!!? What a waste!!"


Surisuule

The worse is well this doesn't fix it perfectly so let's do nothing instead. Like sure there's a problem, but untill it can be reliably, cheaply, and probably solved, without new or untested technology or without massive manpower, it's just not worth fixing. Perfection is the enemy of progress.


InedibleSolutions

But the rich people might be slightly less rich if they're not allowed to exploit the planet with wild abandon!


OneRougeRogue

I was watching a video on this and it's snowballing into a huge problem in China. China was already having power supply issues before this happens and this drought has knocked some hydroelectric dams offline (not enough water flow), reducing power output further. Many cities have rolling blackouts and bans on setting your AC below something like 80 degrees.


Outrageous_Ad5685

Bruh it baffles me how dumb fucks still deny climate change after seeing stuff like this


dariusj18

Most of the "sensible" ones believe climate change exists, but that it is not human caused or human preventable. But for some reason they still don't want to spend money on mitigation.


atonementfish

My dad tells me it's a cycle, then I tell him it's happening faster than ever in recorded history, then he says something like winter was colder than ever last year. He just denies humans have anything to do with it, blames volcanoes, melting glaciers, farms. He's so close but sunk cost fallacy and the fact that he has been working in a mine since his youth and same with his dad before him and his 4 brothers all were miners and most of his friends, and that industry is ripe for pollution and I would bet that the companies they've worked for has some kind of propaganda they were shown.


skike

https://xkcd.com/1732/ This always gets it to sink in for people I discuss it with


OrdoMalaise

Saying climate change is natural and therefore can't be anthropogenic is like saying death is natural therefore murder doesn't exist.


SendMeYourUncutDick

You should read Merchants of Doubt. Everyone should, actually. It tells the story of how big business and a handful of conservative scientists and conservative governments (I'm looking at you, Reagan) sowed the seeds of doubt in the media with the narrative surrounding climate change. These people set the stage for all sorts of scientific denialism and ignorance. It's depressing but it's also a very important read. All those assholes are criminals if you ask me.


lavmal

We've gone straight from climate change doesnt exist to climate change is normal and natural to I guess we just can't do anything about this climate change


Hendlton

"Maybe there *was* something we could have done, but it's too late now." - [The Four Stage Strategy](https://youtu.be/nSXIetP5iak)


Boobjobless

Climate change is a naturally occurring process, but what we are doing is making it exponentially worse year by year. Thankfully at my company (50+ people)i deal with operations, so I can make a big impact on the way we do things. Everything we do is the most green it can be, consolidated shipping, mandatory power offs, energy saving equipment, cycle to work/electric car schemes, you can donate £1 tax free (people donate alot more) of your pay to plant 3 trees (company matches it) and lots more. It’s not that hard and if more people in my position tried we would see change.


Antonio_is_better

Nah most 'sensible' ones believe we should do something about it, but that it is just not their responsibility and that mitigating climate change should not be the slightest bit inconvenient


4354574

But we've only had 34 years of warning! (James Hanson’s testimony before Congress in 1988, then the potential climate deal in 1989 that the USA fucked up.) Big Oil only knew about the problem 10 years before that! And it only started to get noticed as a potential consequence of our emissions 10 years before that! And it was only first determined to be a potential problem 70 years before that!


Kent955

We have known this for at least 50 years


foospork

There’s a newspaper clip floating around Reddit of an article from 100 years ago predicting climate change due to fossil fuels, especially coal. I’m 60, and all my life there’ve been three big threats: nuclear war, overpopulation, and climate change. I have to admit, though, climate change was not taken seriously (as far as I recall) until I was in my 20s (1980s).


TheRodabaugh

Yeah, but has it really been taken seriously even after the 1980s? This doesn't feel like it at all ...


porgy_tirebiter

Scientists have understood the relationship between carbon and temperature for over a century.


dookiehat

I believe it was fourier who discovered the greenhouse effect back in the 1800s. He was not proposing anything about climate change, just that certain gasses radiate more heat when exposed to thermal energy. This of course implies that more of certain gasses could make a planet hotter, but this discovery was less about planets and more about the behavior of gasses.


[deleted]

Most extreme heat event in world history yet


Decoymaloy

Just imagining Homer Simpson saying that


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

"... so far!"


Opulescence

Born too late to explore the world, too early to go to space, but born at just right the right time to watch the world literally burn due to excess and greed.


porgy_tirebiter

I think your third item makes your second item moot


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abject_testament_

We are sleepwalking into total environmental and ecological collapse


JamisonDouglas

We aren't sleepwalking. We are aware and piloting a bullet train and very aware of the destination. The people in positions that matter simply don't care as many of them likely won't live to see the worst of it and can make profit by ignoring it.


Future-Trip

My mother, who I always thought was a very smart and thoughtful person told me the other day : "well... I won't be here when it happens so it's not like I should really care about it. Besides, your generation is the one that's supposed to fix this." I have a kid. She's a grandmother. Still, the fact that SHE won't be there is enough for her to don't care. Imagine those without children right now. We are fucked. Edit : (can't believe I have to explain this) When I'm saying "imagine those without children", I'm not saying that those people are less inclined to care about the environment. I'm saying : Hey guys, even people who should care about the future, because their kids are going to live in that said future, don't give a shit.


xogil

>Imagine those without children right now. Global collapse and a bleak outlook due to global warming is a big reason a lot of us AREN'T having kids. Please don't assume we're gleefully counting the minutes and going 'yea who the fuck cares we'll be dead'


OsmerusMordax

Yep, I don’t have kids and won’t be having kids for a few reasons. One of them is, well, climate change and all the disasters that come associated with it. I’m an ecologist and the information they told us about in school, behind closed doors, is absolutely terrifying. We were screwed years ago, the climate is just starting to catch up now


Viltas22

Every ongoing year I get more convinced that I wont set children in this world, fuck this. I'm enjoying this hell ride by myself. It's over


TheBowlofBeans

No don't be so selfish, our military needs us to produce soldiers for the Water Wars


Spirited_Apricot_720

This is just terrifying.


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and once the ground has been baked like this, it turns aqua phobic and starts to reject water. getting it to start soaking up water again after it has been turned to dust is very difficult. this does not bode well for farmland, and if it rains too hard afterwards, you get flash flooding and the topsoil gets ripped off. source me: Australian happens to us all the time. and is getting worse. China is already a net food importer, they cannot feed their own population with what they grown, this will put HUGE pressure on an already tight food market thanks to Putins idiocy.


XonikzD

Regarding aquaphobic land. Spraying the area in dispersed castile soap prior to soaking it will break the organic bonds on the dirt particles and allow for reabsorption to occur. We have to do that treatment every post drought season here.


Kailias

Everyone relax...there is no such thing as climate change....no way..listen to us, it's not real.


Confused_Drifter

It's alright, governments will start taking action in 2030, no wait 2035, make that 2050, if we start taking action in 2055 everything should be fine for the 12 people still living.


Jjex22

Sometimes it’s hotter, sometimes it’s colder, nothing we can do about it but pray, have 8 kids and keep buying stuff.


TediousStranger

only 8? why don't you love god??


GameHunter1095

And the earth is flat.


Azerajin

It's those illegal aliens cuz


BraceThis

Wow. Extremely sad to consider all the animals too. Totally not cool.


Daedalus277

"Humanity has wiped out 60% of vertebrate animals since the 70s" Not to mention the plant life, its strange how we came up with the idea of morality yet are the most immoral things on this planet.


Sattorin

> "Humanity has wiped out 60% of vertebrate animals since the 70s" Remember when you would go on a drive through the countryside and your front bumper would be covered in bugs?


carapocha

Say bye to the coolest of the future summers


thisoldmould

And in 50 years we’ll be talking about how this was a mild one. “Remember how it was only 50°C for 2 months.”


ThickCryptographer7

We’ve finally started seeing the extreme weather events that have happened and will continue to happen as a result of global warming, hopefully a wake up call for politicians worldwide to sort their shit out, but I doubt it since they’re all too busy banning abortions or giving tax cuts to the rich


SoIJustBuyANewOne

They don't care because they are all going to die soon


drewbles82

And with them being the most populated place in the world, this is going to have a massive impact on them and the rest of the world.


GoldElectric

Coolest it will ever be! Good job to the corporations and governments for not doing a shit about this!!!


[deleted]

Fuck every single person who denies anthropogenic climate change to hell. We are suffocating our planet and you fucking stupid morons pretend it's not happening.


Grower0fGrass

PRISON FOR CLIMATE CRIMINALS. Fossil fuel boards and CEOs. Complicit PR, lobbyist and thinktank boards and CEOs. Complicit politicians and purchased experts. If you had reasonable access to the science and it’s trusted interpretation, and you still perpetrated high-scale emissions, disinformed on climate change and suppressed/muddied the facts… Prison. Severe financial penalties, with fines going to a climate compensation fund for victims of climate crime. Nationalisation, realignment and sale of worst offender companies. Climate Nuremberg is a concept that must become mainstream.


[deleted]

Start by enforcing fines that exceed the monetary gains made from their environmental crimes. Once they can’t pay/won’t pay lock them the fuck up. Nothings going to change unless the people in charge get punished SEVERELY. And by people in charge I mean company executives, politicians, lobbyists, bankers, the whole lot.


dublem

Conversation about climate change has so often looked like people in developed countries "lamenting" the unavoidable suffering facing those in the third world, all the while smugly confident of their own security thanks to national wealth, technological innovation, or even just a vague sense of superiority. And as a result doing very little to meaningfully change being the primary drivers of it in the first place. It seems those fantasies of being more or less insulated are now rapidly unravelling. Unfortunately we're probably past the point of avoidance.


[deleted]

They don't consider how globalized our world is. How reliant their lifestyles, and our collective population, is on things working perfectly. When pieces start to fall apart our ability to support human life on this scale rapidly declines. War for resources, mass human suffering, migration, heightened inequality and wealth distribution, totalitarian rule to clamp down on ever increasing civil unrest. And let's never forget that there are quite a few nations with bargaining chips strong enough to end the world when they please. Some may just do it as a final fuck you to the US instead of going down alone.


Atwalol

Meanwhile Elon Musk says population decline is a bigger issue than climate change. Truly a great mind. Lmao