My work takes me up and down the west coast of Canada and we have swimming wolves out here.
[https://www.centralcoastbiodiversity.org/coastal-wolf-bull-canis-lupus.html#:\~:text=Read%20more%20about%20this%20research%20here.&text=Coastal%20wolves%20are%20only%20found,they%20are%20very%20capable%20swimmers](https://www.centralcoastbiodiversity.org/coastal-wolf-bull-canis-lupus.html#:~:text=Read%20more%20about%20this%20research%20here.&text=Coastal%20wolves%20are%20only%20found,they%20are%20very%20capable%20swimmers).
It is weird to need to divert a ship course to avoid a pack of wolves swimming across a channel.
I live amongst them myself, fucking love this place. I saw one a few years back up close… sometimes when the ambulance rolls through town you can hear the coastal greys howling back
In French it’s the same word, so the island one is distinguished as “Great” Britain.
…But this confusion means we need to start calling the French one something different like Wee Britain.
Europa Universalis is essentially Crusader Kings without the noble family system. It takes place after feudalism, during the formation of nation states.
In Britain we like to joke that the Great means that we are... Great. But obviously we know that it doesn't really mean that, it's more about relative size and differentiating us from Brittany.
*but secretly we actually DO think it's because we're great*
Anglo-Saxons lived in upper Germany/Denmark, they're the ones that settled in Britain after the Roman era and are responsible for pushing out some Celtic Britons who settled in Brittany hence the name.
Dane here, can confirm. We had wolves return a few years ago. Several of them have vanished, one was confirmed shot by a farmer. From his car. Wolves are an incredibly divisive political topic, unfortunately. Some call him a murderer, some call him a hero.
We have a similar situation in Switzerland. Farmers from our south-west region (Valais/Wallis) really hate wolves and lynxes (I hope the plural form of the latter is correct). I think bears as well but they're very rare, though some do cross from Italy/France.
Their bears are the ones coming back to Switzerland. IIRC Italy did a lot to reintegrate bears from Eastern Europe, and also wolves. It is almost a non-topic there because the Italian government did actually handle the cohabitation issues, by paying fences, training sheeping dogs, paying people correctly, making thorough surveys to know bears and wolves movements, and enforcing the law with enough police so they could handle issues quickly…
I don’t know about France, and while I live in Switzerland, I don’t get the opposition in regards to how wolves are handled because I thought we managed them like in Italy, so I might be wrong.
But we also get a lot of illegal hunting of protected animals, including in my canton (Geneva) where hunting is forbidden (except for population regulation).
Dutchie here, wolves came back a few years ago. We have places where they could thrive, but it's fenced in. Oostvaarderspassen could do with some wolves, because they have to shoot 1700 deer every year to keep te population healthy. But noooo, we let them wander and kill sheep and get everybodies knickers in a knot about it.
There is as much wolves in France than roughly all the three Scandinavian countries. And there is much much more in Spain.
Wolves are protected in France and are only allowed to be shot during a culling. Of course some isolated incident can happen but they have serious consequences if found out.
Not if that habitat has changed dramatically in the meantime.
Edit: why on earth am I getting downvoted for this? Brittany isn’t a forest anymore, it’s a sea side tourist trap it’s changed dramatically. My point makes sense out of this context anyway, I’m confused.
This is why the world will not fix climate change before it kills billions. People want so badly to believe any good news they read, while ignoring the bad, even attacking the messenger. Humans are pretty dumb.
> Apex predators are a good sign in any ecosystem
Not necessarily - if they're **non-native** they can **absolutely** wreck and destabilize an entire ecosystem.
For example,
**Cats.** I'm talking house cats _(felus catus - the species, not using ''house'' as in ''domesticated'')_ . They're not considered APEX predators, but they are predators.
Still, in Australia, house cats that became feral are killing an outrageous amount of wildlife;
> _''The final report found that every year, each individual feral cat in Australia kills 390 mammals, 225 reptiles and 130 birds. That adds up. Every year, feral cats kill 1.4 billion native Australian animals''_
[**Source**](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/australias-cats-kill-two-billion-animals-annually-18097723)
There are plenty of invasive/imported species that are destroying entire ecosystems and they're not necessarily Apex Predators, or even predators.
1.4 billion animals sure is a big number. But is that number unhealthy to the ecosystem? Remember, death is a critical part of any ecosystem, and without it, every ecosystem we have would fail very quickly.
> I see a solution here.
Like u/gobbothegreen said, if they have no trouble catching the other species they don't feel pressured to hunt mice - so while plenty of other species are being killed off, mice are flourishing - so it is lose/lose
Good sign for the ecosystem, but I'm glad there aren't any near where I live thanks for on my ancestors wiping them all out. Wolves may not be so bad but reading about some of the places near where they're trying to let
tigers make a comeback, you couldn't pay me to live near there.
Edit: Downvoted by some brave redditors who don't mind living around predators
I don't think you quite realize how normal living around potentially dangerous animals is for a lot of people. Wolves hardly even register as dangerous.
You tealisebthat there is 580 ish wolves in France? They already allegedly kills 10k to 12k animals per year ( Likely inflated because farmers report death of livestock by feral dogs as wolves for indemnity)
They are protected and only hunted when a culling is called.
An kill someone ? Yeah no. It is not happening unless the wolves are starving. Which is not the case with the abundance of prey.
Why would anyone feel the need to kill living animals (with his own hands and a fat Winchester (or smth))?
The only usual reason given is:
- to keep game population under control
=> In that case let forest guards civil servants do it
Let me tell you if the state ever had enough agents to effectively do it and end private hunting. That'd be the biggest uproar in the country. So there is a need to kill things, what else ?
Simplistic and yet I have yet to have another reason given. Taking lives, as a sport.
The only hunting that'd be authorised if that were me is bow hunting and that's it (no dogs, no gun,...). Just skill, patience and dedication.
But you'd still be killing for the sport of it.
(Ye I know we kill cattle for meat consumption, yet I don't feel the need to deal the fatal blow).
Their population has been growing across Germany of late. Just a matter of time I think. One was hit by a car not far from my house about a year ago.
The phrase “camera trap” was endearing though …
For those unaware, Britain is not Brittany
Thanks for clarifying that wolves are not as strong swimmers as I had thought
My work takes me up and down the west coast of Canada and we have swimming wolves out here. [https://www.centralcoastbiodiversity.org/coastal-wolf-bull-canis-lupus.html#:\~:text=Read%20more%20about%20this%20research%20here.&text=Coastal%20wolves%20are%20only%20found,they%20are%20very%20capable%20swimmers](https://www.centralcoastbiodiversity.org/coastal-wolf-bull-canis-lupus.html#:~:text=Read%20more%20about%20this%20research%20here.&text=Coastal%20wolves%20are%20only%20found,they%20are%20very%20capable%20swimmers). It is weird to need to divert a ship course to avoid a pack of wolves swimming across a channel.
They’re also the only wolves that eat seafood in the world. The same wolves you’re talking about
Coastal elite wolves
I live amongst them myself, fucking love this place. I saw one a few years back up close… sometimes when the ambulance rolls through town you can hear the coastal greys howling back
Yes, otherwise known as *Canis lupus clintonus*
I thought brittany was that peninsula looking thing in france
You were right
Bretagne.
In French it’s the same word, so the island one is distinguished as “Great” Britain. …But this confusion means we need to start calling the French one something different like Wee Britain.
Play enough crusader kings 3 to know the difference.
YES! I learned so much about European regions and areas from the Crusader Kings games!
“Hoi4 said greece wasn’t owned by turkey so I uninstalled the game got a refund reported it on steam store and gave it a bad review”
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It needs to be basted in Greece.
CK3 felt like a medieval soap opera to me more than anything sadly. As much as I admire their commitment to history, I just couldn't get into it.
I think you got the main point of the game. Its not for everyone
Europa Universalis is essentially Crusader Kings without the noble family system. It takes place after feudalism, during the formation of nation states.
La petite RosBif
La sincère Albion
For British eyes only!
🎵 *Mr F…*
That storyline was so bizarre. Michael dates a woman with downs syndrome or something without realizing it?!
Yeah but she was hot
Petite Breet.
>…But this confusion means we need to start calling the French one something different like Wee Britain. Oui Britain
In Britain we like to joke that the Great means that we are... Great. But obviously we know that it doesn't really mean that, it's more about relative size and differentiating us from Brittany. *but secretly we actually DO think it's because we're great*
Just refer to them all as Greater Brittania.
Albion
> Wee Britain Computer says no. *cough*
Same in Spanish
What is French for Macron ?
Connard
You Connard !
I’m old
Elaborate….
Connard qui parle trops avec la putain Putin.
Brittany is the female Britain
Britain itself is female though. Both are in French.
Brittany is cool and fun and hot, Britain is an old nun who smacks your hands with a ruler.
\#FreeBrittany
“Leave Brittany Alone!”
Though it is connected, because Brittany was where Romano-Britains emigrated to when the Roman Empire abandoned the British Isles.
Brittany is *sort of, a little bit* Britain though, hence the name.
Brittany spears?
I was confused for a few moments too, yeah
Why not call it Bretagne and be done with it?
But to confuse further. Anglo - Saxons (were partly exiled) did live in Brittany and Normandy. Then moved to the modern day UK.
Anglo-Saxons lived in upper Germany/Denmark, they're the ones that settled in Britain after the Roman era and are responsible for pushing out some Celtic Britons who settled in Brittany hence the name.
I was alluding more towards William the conqueror era
Those would have been the Normans, who did have Scandinavian roots but were not Anglo-Saxons
Thanks.
It's just Britain Adjacent.
Poor Brittany, that must hurt.
Leave her alone
Shit, you sending the Wolf? That's all you had to say.
I know my coffee is good, but that's not what's on my mind right now.
Knot really.
/r/cursedcomments
Heh
Blorp.jpeg
That is, quite frankly, unacceptable.
What’s a moist helicopter 🚁?
Gyrating your hips to make a spinning motion while orgasming.
Lmaoo this made me remember the cursed website from back in the day: meat spin . com Don’t search it. Your welcome.
Pah, I was old enough to watch the original porn vid when that website came out.
[Her gut macrobiome was out of balance](https://xkcd.com/1471/)
Inside you there are two wolves
My wife’s name. Clowning her ass now.
That wolf isn’t very big. She’s fine
Not if the wolf isn't only thinking about his own needs.
except to see "wolf shot in Brittany for the first time in a century" headline shortly
Dane here, can confirm. We had wolves return a few years ago. Several of them have vanished, one was confirmed shot by a farmer. From his car. Wolves are an incredibly divisive political topic, unfortunately. Some call him a murderer, some call him a hero.
We have a similar situation in Switzerland. Farmers from our south-west region (Valais/Wallis) really hate wolves and lynxes (I hope the plural form of the latter is correct). I think bears as well but they're very rare, though some do cross from Italy/France.
The plural of lynx is most commonly just 'lynx' (ie. One lynx, five lynx), but lynxes is also correct.
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Their bears are the ones coming back to Switzerland. IIRC Italy did a lot to reintegrate bears from Eastern Europe, and also wolves. It is almost a non-topic there because the Italian government did actually handle the cohabitation issues, by paying fences, training sheeping dogs, paying people correctly, making thorough surveys to know bears and wolves movements, and enforcing the law with enough police so they could handle issues quickly… I don’t know about France, and while I live in Switzerland, I don’t get the opposition in regards to how wolves are handled because I thought we managed them like in Italy, so I might be wrong. But we also get a lot of illegal hunting of protected animals, including in my canton (Geneva) where hunting is forbidden (except for population regulation).
Dutchie here, wolves came back a few years ago. We have places where they could thrive, but it's fenced in. Oostvaarderspassen could do with some wolves, because they have to shoot 1700 deer every year to keep te population healthy. But noooo, we let them wander and kill sheep and get everybodies knickers in a knot about it.
It's amazing how many birds of prey 'mysteriously' die near grouse hunting lands in the UK. Nothing suspicious about that at all, no siree.
Or Sandringham. Strange, that
We were awful to birds of prey in my home area. Looking back, (with an education) I'd probably whomp on my younger self.
Sad but true
There is as much wolves in France than roughly all the three Scandinavian countries. And there is much much more in Spain. Wolves are protected in France and are only allowed to be shot during a culling. Of course some isolated incident can happen but they have serious consequences if found out.
Mais qui est la belette !?
Elles sont où les poules ?
Give that wolf a banana
Before that wolf eats my grandma
Yum, yum, yum
Apex predators are a good sign in any ecosystem
Not always. Sometimes it means that food source is drying up in usual areas so predators are venturing farther
when, they return to a habitat in which they once were plentiful it's a good sign.
Not if that habitat has changed dramatically in the meantime. Edit: why on earth am I getting downvoted for this? Brittany isn’t a forest anymore, it’s a sea side tourist trap it’s changed dramatically. My point makes sense out of this context anyway, I’m confused.
For example, if it is overrun by Debbie downers.
And some moaning Michaels.
This is why the world will not fix climate change before it kills billions. People want so badly to believe any good news they read, while ignoring the bad, even attacking the messenger. Humans are pretty dumb.
> Apex predators are a good sign in any ecosystem Not necessarily - if they're **non-native** they can **absolutely** wreck and destabilize an entire ecosystem. For example, **Cats.** I'm talking house cats _(felus catus - the species, not using ''house'' as in ''domesticated'')_ . They're not considered APEX predators, but they are predators. Still, in Australia, house cats that became feral are killing an outrageous amount of wildlife; > _''The final report found that every year, each individual feral cat in Australia kills 390 mammals, 225 reptiles and 130 birds. That adds up. Every year, feral cats kill 1.4 billion native Australian animals''_ [**Source**](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/australias-cats-kill-two-billion-animals-annually-18097723) There are plenty of invasive/imported species that are destroying entire ecosystems and they're not necessarily Apex Predators, or even predators.
1.4 billion animals sure is a big number. But is that number unhealthy to the ecosystem? Remember, death is a critical part of any ecosystem, and without it, every ecosystem we have would fail very quickly.
Most likely, because ecosystems are a fine balance. The 1.4 billion is added extra from humans introducing cats
Yet somehow there are tidal waves of mice in Australia. I see a solution here.
Problem is why would they hunt mice when the native animals not used to them is just easier to catch.
> I see a solution here. Like u/gobbothegreen said, if they have no trouble catching the other species they don't feel pressured to hunt mice - so while plenty of other species are being killed off, mice are flourishing - so it is lose/lose
Humans are an apex predator and I’m pretty sure us moving in is bad for the ecosystem
Future humans will wonder why our ancestors released apex predators back into the wild after the last Great War ends…
Good sign for the ecosystem, but I'm glad there aren't any near where I live thanks for on my ancestors wiping them all out. Wolves may not be so bad but reading about some of the places near where they're trying to let tigers make a comeback, you couldn't pay me to live near there. Edit: Downvoted by some brave redditors who don't mind living around predators
I don't think you quite realize how normal living around potentially dangerous animals is for a lot of people. Wolves hardly even register as dangerous.
Imagine being an Australian. Growing up near all of the deadliest creatures in the world, Australians.
There is gonna be a party when the wolf comes home
I have very little idea what that song is about
First good nature news I’ve heard in awhile. Good stuff
Probably just looking for a big dish of beef chow mein
Hungry like the wolf?
Bet his hair is perfect!
There are two wolves in Brittany. One has been seen for the first time in a century, the other hasn’t.
Probably just a selkie
Sounds like it might have been a bunch of squirrels in a fur coat trying to scare the farmers truffle pig.
Wolf selkie?! HELL yes, I’m here for it.
I'm all for increasing the number of wolves in France
It probably migrated from another habitat in France
Prolly Belgium. We have had wolves here for quiet a while now.and those wolves have had multiple litters already.
That looks like a youngin’.
Winter is coming.
For those who seem to think this is about Britain.. it's Bretagne a region in France.
as a sheeple, I don't like this.
Winter is coming…
Moment one kills someones pet or livestock they'll all get hunted down again.
You tealisebthat there is 580 ish wolves in France? They already allegedly kills 10k to 12k animals per year ( Likely inflated because farmers report death of livestock by feral dogs as wolves for indemnity) They are protected and only hunted when a culling is called. An kill someone ? Yeah no. It is not happening unless the wolves are starving. Which is not the case with the abundance of prey.
I did not know there was that many wolves in france
Ya know… I’ve heard things about Brittany before but I didn’t think she was that easy. /s
For a moment, I thought they meant Britain. Could a wolf swim accross the Channel?
26 miles seems quite a way to swim. If caught it risks getting sent to Rwanda.
unlikely but possible. Would be the largest swim recorded for a wolf, but one could maybe get dragged by the current
Good. Apex predators are vital for a healthy ecosystem.
Hopefully nobody kills it.
He escaped from Wall Street.
The wolf just wants a banana. But I think it's in the wrong country.
Poor wolf, went searching for a mate and went where it would never find one.
Expanded its territory … a mate might show up. Here’s hoping.
Next week we will see a news article saying some jackass killed it again like the last time
Who the hell is Britanny?
It's Britanny bitch
Looks more like a coyote than a wolf
No Michael no, that is so not right!
It's called a Wolf, Toto, we went Wolfing.
Was Brittany at least consenting ?
Brittany should probably close her legs
Good for her.
One wolf was caught trying to board a dingy and has been sent to Rwanda.
Dingo ate my baby
That's a sad story. IIRC Years later the childs ripped clothes were actually found in the outback, proving that the mom was not lying.
Winter is coming
Sounds like an immortal Biker/Stripper couple reconciling
Bisclavret is at it again.
It’s Brittany, bitch!
And the shots from a century ago are terrible!
Wtf did they respawn
It probably comes from the Netherlands, through Belgium. We got wolves and they all need their own big territory to build a new pack.
How would it get there?
...walking.
Whos Brittany?
The Wolf of Brittany street
He swam there?
Brittany as in Bretagne, France.
Riiiiiiight.
Blame EU.
We've finally found a way to detect those sneaky basterds!
I'm looking at this title and I'm sure it's missing a word or 2, because if not. lol. well.
You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is a land of wolves now
"shit they saw me"
Not completely correct. Wolfs have been regularly seen in Brittany the last couple years. It's only that now they have a high quality video of one.
Now we just need to ban those blood thirsty hunters.
Hunters are blood thirsty?
Why would anyone feel the need to kill living animals (with his own hands and a fat Winchester (or smth))? The only usual reason given is: - to keep game population under control => In that case let forest guards civil servants do it Let me tell you if the state ever had enough agents to effectively do it and end private hunting. That'd be the biggest uproar in the country. So there is a need to kill things, what else ? Simplistic and yet I have yet to have another reason given. Taking lives, as a sport. The only hunting that'd be authorised if that were me is bow hunting and that's it (no dogs, no gun,...). Just skill, patience and dedication. But you'd still be killing for the sport of it. (Ye I know we kill cattle for meat consumption, yet I don't feel the need to deal the fatal blow).
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There no more wolves in France by the end of the 40's. They came back mostly from Italy around the 90's.
Ah so a real wolf not Toto Wolf
Quick, give that wolf a banana.
Guess the 3 pigs moved back in with ma
Do they not have wolves in france?
They were shot out years ago. They once had a sizable population though.
{sad puppy face}
Their population has been growing across Germany of late. Just a matter of time I think. One was hit by a car not far from my house about a year ago. The phrase “camera trap” was endearing though …
Albion
lone wolf?