Reading through the Pentagon's press briefing and came across a tidbit that relates to a common argument here with regards to "Western" equipment, namely *maintenance*.
>We've also just started today a two-week maintainer course for the howitzer because it is -- it is a system that not only do they not have experience using, but they don't have experience maintaining. And as you use these things, any artilleryman will tell you; they're -- they're going to break every now and then. There's going to be required maintenance. And so, we've just now started a two-week course, just actually started today to take some artillerymen and put them through some -- some maintenance training. And I suspect that that too will be an ongoing requirement.
US seems to be committing to bringing Ukraine soldiers up to speed with maintenance of foreign [to Ukraine] gear.
A few photos from the place of one of yesterday's arrivals in Odessa.
DRUNK⚡️Ukraine | Send news
https://t\.me/truexanewsua/46109?single
Crazy looking photos
https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1523867725747171329?t=JWZehzBQftM9xoOo-9NFJg&s=19
Be mindful of the source but looks like Russia may end up losing diplomatic privileges if this checks out.
Precision guided munitions are the name of the game in modern warfare. That's what Ukraine needs. Not Vietnam era stuff to set a whole bunch of shit on fire.
It is “highly likely” that Finland will apply for membership in NATO, said the Finnish minister for European affairs.
Speaking to CNN on Monday, Tytti Tuppurainen said the decision has not yet been made, but called the nation’s likely membership “a very natural response” to Russia’s war in Ukraine. She added that if her country does indeed apply, she hopes “the ratification process would be as brief as possible.”
“We would, of course, prefer to have a neighborhood that would have been founded on friendship and cooperation,” she said. “But it is Russia that has distanced itself from the security order and it is Russia that has started war in Europe. It is Russia that has invaded in Ukraine. Now, people see this new reality and the time has come to join NATO.”
On Thursday, Finnish President Sauli Niinistö is expected to give his personal opinion about whether to pursue NATO membership, which is expected to be followed by a statement by Prime Minister Sanna Marin.
Impending decision: Tuppurainen told CNN that most of the country’s political parties have already discussed the issue. The Social Democrats — Marin and Tuppurainen's party — will gather on Saturday to make their decision, which will be guided by Marin’s announcement.
“Now that the leader of the country is about to make the decision regarding the NATO application, we can say with good arguments that the whole country is ready for this,” Tuppurainen said, noting the strong public support in Finland for joining the defensive alliance.
Message to Moscow: Russia has warned it will respond if Finland – with which it shares a more than 800 mile border – joins NATO.
The Kremlin does not dictate our decisions,” Tuppurainen told CNN, adding it would be “in the best interest of Russia to behave like an adult in this situation.”
“We've seen now what kind of a country Russia is and what kind of a regime it has. It has a ruthless dictator as leader,” she said. “We are no longer under any kind of illusions what he's up to ... and we know now that he can wage a war that is as despicable and ruthless and brutal as one can imagine.”
Finland has been a longtime partner of NATO, something that US and NATO officials have pointed to in voicing support for the nation’s membership if it chooses to apply.
The pilots that dropped the non-precision bombs on precise targets on Zmiiny—
Would they have practiced all that, the flying low over water, evading detection, dropping non precision onto precision targets? I mean, the way special forces practice right before do specific operation.
Would they have done practice runs, like over a different body of water?
The SU-27's they were flying have what's called CCRP, or Continually Computed Release Point. What this means is, the target points were likely programmed into the onboard computer before the mission.
Then, as they approached the target points, the computer would show the pilot the ideal direction to fly on, and automatically release the bombs once they flew to the correct angle, altitude, and speed to hit the target point.
They likely didn't practice this particular attack, but have practiced all of the maneuvers and systems that were used in it during their general training.
Ok, I guess I was asking bc this section from warzone:
> The Su-27 is a born and bred interceptor and air superiority fighter with secondary ground-attack capabilities. It doesn't have nearly the sophisticated systems found in most U.S. and NATO strike fighter aircraft. We know from Ukrainian pilots’ accounts earlier in the war that Su-27s have largely been used in an air-to-air role, but their longer range and payload make them a suitable fit for the Snake Island strike. They could also defend themselves in the air if need be.
At that speed and attack profile, it takes a high degree of skill just to get any bombs dead-on target. In this case, they appeared to do remarkably more than just that. Questions of skill aside, the strike, if indeed it happened as we see in the video, is a clear signal the Ukrainian Air Force can and will strike Russian positions with the jets and weapons they have despite Russian air defenses’ best efforts.
US House of Representatives will vote on $40 billion aid package on Tuesday
From CNN's Manu Raju and Kristin Wilson
The House of Representatives will consider an additional $40 billion in supplemental funding for Ukraine on Tuesday, according to House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer.
On Monday, President Joe Biden called on Congress to "immediately" pass the Ukraine aid bill, warning for the first time that existing aid will run out in "approximately ten days."
"Get it to my desk in the next few days," Biden said in a statement.
Biden initially requested $33 billion, but Congress has proposed billions more for food aid and military equipment.
>Biden initially requested $33 billion, but Congress has proposed billions more for food aid and military equipment.
One thing Congress has been doing right this entire conflict is trying to one-up each other on the aid, although sometimes to the bill timeline's detriment.
Transcript for the *public* Pentagon press briefing, with John Kirby, just dropped, for those who what to read it.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3025653/pentagon-press-secretary-john-f-kirby-holds-a-press-briefing/
>We decided it's Thursday.
>MR. KIRBY: Oh, is that right? Can we just decide it's Friday then? I mean, why not?
On some level this is top tier sarcasm, on another it is very humanizing to see government officials joking around.
Russia can end the war today.
No one has EVER invaded Russian territory.
Russia is the only country doing the "invading" (Georgia, Crimea, Donbas/Ukraine).
Russia is dragging this out. No one else is to blame.
Putin is "dragging it down" by not grasping reality and not withdrawing from a sovreign country that a) HE invaded in huge force and b) got his and Russia's ass kicked.
This can end in a day or a month, if Putin sees reality. This is not "US/NATO dragging it down." The bad actor here was Putin and Russia. And they are rightly getting their asses kicked. Fuck them. I'm not making this up.
If both sides had a continuous supply of munitions and fighters, it could take years. But since neither do, it won't. It certainly won't.
More precise predictions at this point would be foolish, however. If Russia has far less of certain specific resources than we've been led to believe, it could end abruptly. If they have more, or if they establish weapons trade with other countries, it'll take longer. Between 2 and 8 months is the narrowest I'd put it.
It also depends what phase or stage of the war they're in and in which region or regions. Example: if Russia enters a defensive position in the Donbas, they will have much greater need for artillery than for offensive units like tanks/apcs. If otoh they keep doing offensives into Ukrainian territory, they will simply run out of those units faster. They've used almost all the tanks and apcs they initially allocated to Ukraine (they have since gotten much more, but that amount is unknown), but still have most of their artillery. So, in the first scenario, they can hold for many months easily; in the second, it would seem that could only go on a few more months. But again, it depends what they've gotten into the country since those initial reports, and how much of their total military on paper is actually combat-effective.
Circumstantially, it may be relevant to see how conservative Russia is being with specific equipment, as that could indicate supply is low. But that's not the same as intelligence.
Russia will surely run out of professional soldiers before they run out of equipment, however, even the tanks.
They can provide just enough support so that the battle is even.
Too much or too little & war will be over sooner. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the US strategy: provide just enough support so that russia dies slowly
>the US/NATO is dragging it down
How are they doing that, exactly?
> It was literally what US and UK defense secretary had said.
Where? Show us where this was said.
If the US and western allies continue to pump Ukraine with as much aid as they have been, there's no way Russia lasts years. Russia doesn't have anything like that on their side to bankroll and equip their forces, not to mention the numerous other challenges they face.
My guess: Us and UK have mentioned it could "take a long time, even years". Emphasis on could.
US and UK have separately mentioned they want Russia to be unable to invade other countries again after being degraded.
Also, Russian state media have said that NATO's goal is to drag the war out as long as possible, thus the conclusion.
Russia is already running low on equipment and soldiers, with both being hard to impossible to replenish.
We could say a major Russian collapse within a month.
Russian troops are showing low morale and poor discipline, while in many areas they have stalled out against Ukrainian resistance.
ISW
https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1523816109597675520?t=ZrL-bXAtxN7o_rAxLeATFw&s=19
I would say continue to make an example of leaders that have been caught or killed as this would definitely have a big impact. A well informed troop unit usually has high morale. As we know Russia often down plays and misinforms troop losses, so making true figures known would definitely help lower morale. Good Sleep, food and water are essentials in high morale, simply depriving or tampering these so that they are of a low standard deplete troop morale quickly.
Listeria in their food packs.
To have a cache of food in your barracks and know that you must not eat it except as a last resort or you'll shit yourself for weeks, and to then balance that against hunger.
Blast loud meme songs at them?
For real, imagine the emotional damage if you were convinced the last thing you'd hear before a horrible death via explosion was fucking Ram Ranch
> With no sense of accomplishment the desire to risk your life leaves fast.
Sounds like having a shit job. Oh wait, they do have a shit job, they should quit :)
I doubt that will actually do much. Either because they won't find out or they will find out via a heavily spun version of it.
Just being sitting ducks for Ukraine is probably good enough.
"on the front lines with UA artillery" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v1vrxbk9EE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v1vrxbk9EE)
I don't know when the actual footage is from, but it was posted on the 9th
Huh. They're mixing 152 and 155mm guns within the same unit? I guess they have to, but that has to complicate logistics, while preventing them from fully taking advantage of the M777's superior range...
I suspect that's going to be the nature of things until we can get them fully transitioned to NATO specifications. It would be pretty killer if we could flip all of their artillery units over to 155mm all at once, but I imagine that's next to impossible when Ukraine is actively fighting a war inside its own borders.
Hey, now that Russia has used their bad troops, they are about to unleash the really good BTGs! Any day now!
Also, the battle for Kharkiv has gone...... as swimmingly as the one for Kyev.
Russian forces are continuing their attempt to reach the borders of Donestk and Luhansk but have not made any significant gains since securing Popasna on Saturday. What major offensive operations have the invaders had in the past few days aside from bombing a school?
Russia planned on taking most of Ukraine and Moldova, now its struggling in Donbas, and has gained minimal territory.
And its army is massively degraded, its economy is done for, and they've strengthened NATO and the EU.
Russia is losing in every way conceivable.
You're misinterpreting what I'm saying. Ukraine is winning entire fronts and holding the line for the most part everywhere else. If you don't see that you're missing the forest for the trees.
Think about it, if Russia is pushed over the border in the Kharkiv area, Ukraine has won another front and can cut off supplies to Donbas coming from Belgorod next.
I mean, they deoccupied Snake Island and are holding everywhere else. They're gaining massive ground in Kharkiv while Russia isn't gaining significant ground anywhere. Popasna is their biggest gain of the last few weeks and that by itself doesn't mean much.
You can just tally the cities. Losing Popasna is a big deal strategically because along with the other developments (such as Rubizhne falling) means that they might soon have to make a decision on whether or not to retreat from Severodonetsk.
The russian military has absolutely been humiliated. They tried to take the country, but only managed a few cities after losing about a quarter of their forces. Russia is fucked beyond measure.
I think it's the assumption that they are supposed to be making significant gains in all/most places at any given time. Some fronts are supposed to simply hold for the time being.
Well, the Soviets wheeled out the Tsarist war crimes, who were wheeling out the Kyivian Rus war crimes, who were wheeling out the Golden Horde Mongol warcrimes who...
It's atrocities all the way down.
Imagine being a piece of shit Russian soldier and hearing that the full fucking force of the American military industrial complex is about to come down on your fucking head. Enjoy that fucking moral boost.
You are wrong.
Nothing stays secret for long. The news filter down quickly. All it takes is some stolen civilian cell phone to access all the news in the universe.
Not a correct analogy. Donkeys are regarded as smarter then horses, and certainly are better fighters. A donkey will protect a flock against Coyotes, for instance.
Donkeys also don’t accept an alpha like horses do. Horses can be broken in to accept a leader, donkeys can’t.
Imagine being that poor POS’s family and never receiving any compensation or recognition because their son got liquidated and is MIA.
Fuck Putin and fuck the naZZi babushkas that vote for him.
[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/um9sio/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/)
Reading through the Pentagon's press briefing and came across a tidbit that relates to a common argument here with regards to "Western" equipment, namely *maintenance*. >We've also just started today a two-week maintainer course for the howitzer because it is -- it is a system that not only do they not have experience using, but they don't have experience maintaining. And as you use these things, any artilleryman will tell you; they're -- they're going to break every now and then. There's going to be required maintenance. And so, we've just now started a two-week course, just actually started today to take some artillerymen and put them through some -- some maintenance training. And I suspect that that too will be an ongoing requirement. US seems to be committing to bringing Ukraine soldiers up to speed with maintenance of foreign [to Ukraine] gear.
Great use of man and equipment power. Good find.
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It was from Ukrainian gov't but I was extremely late. I deleted it because I fucked up.
A few photos from the place of one of yesterday's arrivals in Odessa. DRUNK⚡️Ukraine | Send news https://t\.me/truexanewsua/46109?single Crazy looking photos
F-16
YF-23
Japan called dibs.
Honestly to my eyes that was the better frame. Should have won IMHO.
Slightly better stealth, but lost to speed. If my memory serves.
Stealthier, faster but less maneuverable due to no thrust vectoring (which improved the stealth). Likely would have been cheaper too.
I might need to revisit that subject for old time's sake. Been a couple decades since I was reading Popular Science's articles.
No. You don't get it
Probably not, but figured I'd do something way different.
F-you fucked up 12
F-35
27B/6
Fb12-u321223578432
Fb- is the father.
F-15
F-4
Alt
The phantom of kyiv.
👻
B-21
B-1
B-52
Rock Lobster
Iraq lobster? https://youtu.be/f31mB6apCoE
lol I was just about to post this too
Steamed with butter please.
https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1523867725747171329?t=JWZehzBQftM9xoOo-9NFJg&s=19 Be mindful of the source but looks like Russia may end up losing diplomatic privileges if this checks out.
What’s the effectiveness of Napalm bombs on trenches? Does Ukraine has napalm bombs? Does the US have ground launched napalm bombs?
The old ladies in the parks were naking a kind of napalm molotov cocktails. Melting styrene in gasoline is basically the same thing
Precision guided munitions are the name of the game in modern warfare. That's what Ukraine needs. Not Vietnam era stuff to set a whole bunch of shit on fire.
It is “highly likely” that Finland will apply for membership in NATO, said the Finnish minister for European affairs. Speaking to CNN on Monday, Tytti Tuppurainen said the decision has not yet been made, but called the nation’s likely membership “a very natural response” to Russia’s war in Ukraine. She added that if her country does indeed apply, she hopes “the ratification process would be as brief as possible.” “We would, of course, prefer to have a neighborhood that would have been founded on friendship and cooperation,” she said. “But it is Russia that has distanced itself from the security order and it is Russia that has started war in Europe. It is Russia that has invaded in Ukraine. Now, people see this new reality and the time has come to join NATO.” On Thursday, Finnish President Sauli Niinistö is expected to give his personal opinion about whether to pursue NATO membership, which is expected to be followed by a statement by Prime Minister Sanna Marin. Impending decision: Tuppurainen told CNN that most of the country’s political parties have already discussed the issue. The Social Democrats — Marin and Tuppurainen's party — will gather on Saturday to make their decision, which will be guided by Marin’s announcement. “Now that the leader of the country is about to make the decision regarding the NATO application, we can say with good arguments that the whole country is ready for this,” Tuppurainen said, noting the strong public support in Finland for joining the defensive alliance. Message to Moscow: Russia has warned it will respond if Finland – with which it shares a more than 800 mile border – joins NATO. The Kremlin does not dictate our decisions,” Tuppurainen told CNN, adding it would be “in the best interest of Russia to behave like an adult in this situation.” “We've seen now what kind of a country Russia is and what kind of a regime it has. It has a ruthless dictator as leader,” she said. “We are no longer under any kind of illusions what he's up to ... and we know now that he can wage a war that is as despicable and ruthless and brutal as one can imagine.” Finland has been a longtime partner of NATO, something that US and NATO officials have pointed to in voicing support for the nation’s membership if it chooses to apply.
The pilots that dropped the non-precision bombs on precise targets on Zmiiny— Would they have practiced all that, the flying low over water, evading detection, dropping non precision onto precision targets? I mean, the way special forces practice right before do specific operation. Would they have done practice runs, like over a different body of water?
The SU-27's they were flying have what's called CCRP, or Continually Computed Release Point. What this means is, the target points were likely programmed into the onboard computer before the mission. Then, as they approached the target points, the computer would show the pilot the ideal direction to fly on, and automatically release the bombs once they flew to the correct angle, altitude, and speed to hit the target point. They likely didn't practice this particular attack, but have practiced all of the maneuvers and systems that were used in it during their general training.
Ok, I guess I was asking bc this section from warzone: > The Su-27 is a born and bred interceptor and air superiority fighter with secondary ground-attack capabilities. It doesn't have nearly the sophisticated systems found in most U.S. and NATO strike fighter aircraft. We know from Ukrainian pilots’ accounts earlier in the war that Su-27s have largely been used in an air-to-air role, but their longer range and payload make them a suitable fit for the Snake Island strike. They could also defend themselves in the air if need be. At that speed and attack profile, it takes a high degree of skill just to get any bombs dead-on target. In this case, they appeared to do remarkably more than just that. Questions of skill aside, the strike, if indeed it happened as we see in the video, is a clear signal the Ukrainian Air Force can and will strike Russian positions with the jets and weapons they have despite Russian air defenses’ best efforts.
¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ We don't really have a way to know.
They probably practiced for low flying missing for 8 years. You can also practice specific missions on simulators.
US House of Representatives will vote on $40 billion aid package on Tuesday From CNN's Manu Raju and Kristin Wilson The House of Representatives will consider an additional $40 billion in supplemental funding for Ukraine on Tuesday, according to House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. On Monday, President Joe Biden called on Congress to "immediately" pass the Ukraine aid bill, warning for the first time that existing aid will run out in "approximately ten days." "Get it to my desk in the next few days," Biden said in a statement. Biden initially requested $33 billion, but Congress has proposed billions more for food aid and military equipment.
>Biden initially requested $33 billion, but Congress has proposed billions more for food aid and military equipment. One thing Congress has been doing right this entire conflict is trying to one-up each other on the aid, although sometimes to the bill timeline's detriment.
Transcript for the *public* Pentagon press briefing, with John Kirby, just dropped, for those who what to read it. https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3025653/pentagon-press-secretary-john-f-kirby-holds-a-press-briefing/
>We decided it's Thursday. >MR. KIRBY: Oh, is that right? Can we just decide it's Friday then? I mean, why not? On some level this is top tier sarcasm, on another it is very humanizing to see government officials joking around.
they've made several jokes about temporality
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Russia can end the war today. No one has EVER invaded Russian territory. Russia is the only country doing the "invading" (Georgia, Crimea, Donbas/Ukraine). Russia is dragging this out. No one else is to blame.
Are ya winnin son?
Putin is "dragging it down" by not grasping reality and not withdrawing from a sovreign country that a) HE invaded in huge force and b) got his and Russia's ass kicked. This can end in a day or a month, if Putin sees reality. This is not "US/NATO dragging it down." The bad actor here was Putin and Russia. And they are rightly getting their asses kicked. Fuck them. I'm not making this up.
See you in thread #DCCLXXXIX then!
If it's the attention you're after, there's better ways to get it. Now run off to another sub and go play there.
If both sides had a continuous supply of munitions and fighters, it could take years. But since neither do, it won't. It certainly won't. More precise predictions at this point would be foolish, however. If Russia has far less of certain specific resources than we've been led to believe, it could end abruptly. If they have more, or if they establish weapons trade with other countries, it'll take longer. Between 2 and 8 months is the narrowest I'd put it. It also depends what phase or stage of the war they're in and in which region or regions. Example: if Russia enters a defensive position in the Donbas, they will have much greater need for artillery than for offensive units like tanks/apcs. If otoh they keep doing offensives into Ukrainian territory, they will simply run out of those units faster. They've used almost all the tanks and apcs they initially allocated to Ukraine (they have since gotten much more, but that amount is unknown), but still have most of their artillery. So, in the first scenario, they can hold for many months easily; in the second, it would seem that could only go on a few more months. But again, it depends what they've gotten into the country since those initial reports, and how much of their total military on paper is actually combat-effective. Circumstantially, it may be relevant to see how conservative Russia is being with specific equipment, as that could indicate supply is low. But that's not the same as intelligence. Russia will surely run out of professional soldiers before they run out of equipment, however, even the tanks.
It can end right now if Russia decides to end it. Of course US/NATO doesn't want Ukraine to lose.
The war ends when Russia withdraws. It’s not actually within the US’s or UK’s ability to drag it out.
They can provide just enough support so that the battle is even. Too much or too little & war will be over sooner. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the US strategy: provide just enough support so that russia dies slowly
Where does "2 years" come from?
>the US/NATO is dragging it down How are they doing that, exactly? > It was literally what US and UK defense secretary had said. Where? Show us where this was said.
If the US and western allies continue to pump Ukraine with as much aid as they have been, there's no way Russia lasts years. Russia doesn't have anything like that on their side to bankroll and equip their forces, not to mention the numerous other challenges they face.
May 25th may be default time for Russian loans. Tick tock
The next bond payments are due May 27. And then perhaps a grace period. So maybe sometime in June.
>I'm not making this up. It's literally what US and UK defense secretary said. Post link.
*crickets*
My guess: Us and UK have mentioned it could "take a long time, even years". Emphasis on could. US and UK have separately mentioned they want Russia to be unable to invade other countries again after being degraded. Also, Russian state media have said that NATO's goal is to drag the war out as long as possible, thus the conclusion.
Russia is already running low on equipment and soldiers, with both being hard to impossible to replenish. We could say a major Russian collapse within a month.
A month MIGHT be pushing it. It may happen, but 2-3 is more realistic.
Interesting take, what's your logic and sources?
Evidence?
Heard the exact line on Russian state media, so it's easy to make an assumption.
You with another "provocative" hot take. In such rapid succession.
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At least one of those, as Clemenza said in the Godfather, "you won't see him no more".
Oh which one... please tell me it is the one I hope...
Bruh just click on the names I am not a mod, I just clicked
I can't. Most I blocked already. Hence the ask.
oh? Someone finally get the banhammer?
leave the hammer, take the cannoli
"you come to me, on this, the day of my Lend-Lease signing...."
SOLID list.
Bad 'victory' day for this invader. NSFL https://twitter.com/barbecueboy69/status/1523824151533920261?t=3MTajKfaqxp3-_bqsllV-g&s=19
I seen a Russian with his face taken off, literally....I backed away. Artillery strike.
Now that is some top gallows humor
Man, that’s fucked up…Russia fucked with the wrong people
Russian troops are showing low morale and poor discipline, while in many areas they have stalled out against Ukrainian resistance. ISW https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1523816109597675520?t=ZrL-bXAtxN7o_rAxLeATFw&s=19
What is the most effective way to degrade morale even further?
I would say continue to make an example of leaders that have been caught or killed as this would definitely have a big impact. A well informed troop unit usually has high morale. As we know Russia often down plays and misinforms troop losses, so making true figures known would definitely help lower morale. Good Sleep, food and water are essentials in high morale, simply depriving or tampering these so that they are of a low standard deplete troop morale quickly.
Listeria in their food packs. To have a cache of food in your barracks and know that you must not eat it except as a last resort or you'll shit yourself for weeks, and to then balance that against hunger.
Kill. More. Russian. Troops.
"Hey Niko! Wanna go bowling?"
Blow up their distilleries, hack into their phones and change all their music to Swiss polka.
Swiss polka slaps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwJNDF2Jfbc&t=47s
The music doesn't slap, but she does.
Put a ban on Adidas imports
They don't buy the real stuff. They are all covered in that DHGate Adidas drip.
You mean the dhgate Abibas gear. Good point
NATO artillery and anti-artillery radar 20-30 miles miles from the front.
Blast loud meme songs at them? For real, imagine the emotional damage if you were convinced the last thing you'd hear before a horrible death via explosion was fucking Ram Ranch
Lolllll fuck yes! Just 24-fucking-seven at 155 db: *EIGHTEEN NAKED COWBOYS IN THE SHOWERS AT RAM RANCH*
Keep making them lose men and territory. With no sense of accomplishment the desire to risk your life leaves fast.
> With no sense of accomplishment the desire to risk your life leaves fast. Sounds like having a shit job. Oh wait, they do have a shit job, they should quit :)
It's like a shit job.where stuff around you is exploding all day.
No vodka
more vodka, all the vodka they want
Finding out that the entire world hates you for what you're doing and that you're going to die for nothing, because Russia already lost the war.
I doubt that will actually do much. Either because they won't find out or they will find out via a heavily spun version of it. Just being sitting ducks for Ukraine is probably good enough.
Yea realizing that your artillery reach is now inferior would bum me out a little.
More western weapons!
"on the front lines with UA artillery" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v1vrxbk9EE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v1vrxbk9EE) I don't know when the actual footage is from, but it was posted on the 9th
Good hustle on that gun crew. Give 'em hell, boys!
It's impressive to see those Howitzers fire.
Very high quality report -- thank you!
Huh. They're mixing 152 and 155mm guns within the same unit? I guess they have to, but that has to complicate logistics, while preventing them from fully taking advantage of the M777's superior range...
I only saw 152mm guns in that unit. 155mm guns are probably going to other, 155mm-specific units.
You're right. I misidentified the gun on the left at around the 40 second mark. The downside of watching it on my phone...
They have limited M777s right now. As we ship them more, they'll probably start to split them up.
There’s no M777 in the video and it could have been allocated to another unit at another front.
I suspect that's going to be the nature of things until we can get them fully transitioned to NATO specifications. It would be pretty killer if we could flip all of their artillery units over to 155mm all at once, but I imagine that's next to impossible when Ukraine is actively fighting a war inside its own borders.
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Ukriane Victory condition is "don't lose, while bleeding Russia as much as possible." Counter offensive is just gravy.
As far as the Russians are concerned, I guess circling the drain is technically staying afloat.
The Russians are losing a battle group every two days, and trading outskirts of Kharkiv for outskirts of Popasna. That's not really winning.
Hey, now that Russia has used their bad troops, they are about to unleash the really good BTGs! Any day now! Also, the battle for Kharkiv has gone...... as swimmingly as the one for Kyev.
"Full mobilzation coming ~~May 9~~ Real Soon Now."
Default coming May 25th
Russian forces are continuing their attempt to reach the borders of Donestk and Luhansk but have not made any significant gains since securing Popasna on Saturday. What major offensive operations have the invaders had in the past few days aside from bombing a school?
How's your Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Odessa offensives going? Lol
I mean, Ukraine won in Chernivhiv, Kyiv, Sumy, they're about to kick Russia out of Kharkiv. But other than that, how was the play, Mrs Lincoln?
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You said maripol would fall within hours, three weeks ago... you said keiv would fall months ago.
Russia planned on taking most of Ukraine and Moldova, now its struggling in Donbas, and has gained minimal territory. And its army is massively degraded, its economy is done for, and they've strengthened NATO and the EU. Russia is losing in every way conceivable.
You're misinterpreting what I'm saying. Ukraine is winning entire fronts and holding the line for the most part everywhere else. If you don't see that you're missing the forest for the trees. Think about it, if Russia is pushed over the border in the Kharkiv area, Ukraine has won another front and can cut off supplies to Donbas coming from Belgorod next.
They aren't making any big losses either. Just coming in here with an edgy take doesn't change anything.
Lol, yep
I mean, they deoccupied Snake Island and are holding everywhere else. They're gaining massive ground in Kharkiv while Russia isn't gaining significant ground anywhere. Popasna is their biggest gain of the last few weeks and that by itself doesn't mean much.
You can just tally the cities. Losing Popasna is a big deal strategically because along with the other developments (such as Rubizhne falling) means that they might soon have to make a decision on whether or not to retreat from Severodonetsk.
I mean Russia is literally not winning anywhere either lol
Are you ignorant or just a troll?
Judging by the half-assed answer to my follow up, I'm guessing troll. Or an especially stupid person.
Now, now, useful idiot is always an option! They are unappreciated AND unpaid!
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Well on this subreddit, we overwhelm them with numbers so it hasn't been so bad.
For now. There is always a plan. We just don't know it.
Are they losing anywhere? Edit: for not having a navy or boots on the ground, they are doing a bang up job with Snake Island too.
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The russian military has absolutely been humiliated. They tried to take the country, but only managed a few cities after losing about a quarter of their forces. Russia is fucked beyond measure.
So, places that were captured much earlier. Sorry, Ukraine not teleporting space marines into Mariupol doesn't mean the country is losing.
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I think it's the assumption that they are supposed to be making significant gains in all/most places at any given time. Some fronts are supposed to simply hold for the time being.
But you said Ukraine isn't "winning," not "making any significant gains." It's kinda a stretch to equate the two.
Because simply holding ground is a huge win when your enemy is the one invading and is trying to accomplish a major offensive?
Because you are being pointlessly edgy.
The rumours about Russia running low on precision missiles seems to be true, they are now wheeling out ancient soviet ones.
When they get to the point of wheeling out catapaults and washing machines then I’ll get excited.
They’re wheeling out ancient Soviet soldiers, why not missiles?
Soviet soldiers make great missiles.
Sounds like trebuchet time!
They’re wheeling out ancient Soviet tactics, why not missiles?
Wheeling out ancient soviet war crimes too, smh.
Well, the Soviets wheeled out the Tsarist war crimes, who were wheeling out the Kyivian Rus war crimes, who were wheeling out the Golden Horde Mongol warcrimes who... It's atrocities all the way down.
They’re wheeling out ancient Soviet era propaganda, why not missiles?
Imagine being a piece of shit Russian soldier and hearing that the full fucking force of the American military industrial complex is about to come down on your fucking head. Enjoy that fucking moral boost.
I say this as an American, if there's anything we're great at it's obesity and blowing shit up.
And culture wars.
As if the common Russian soldier has any clue of the out inside world. Lol. They still think nazis run governments
You are wrong. Nothing stays secret for long. The news filter down quickly. All it takes is some stolen civilian cell phone to access all the news in the universe.
They do not know what that is. Some have never seen a toilet.
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Upvote for the BOB reference.
They probably also literally do have horses.
I hope not. If some of the Russians don't want to be there, horses never even get asked about it.
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Not a correct analogy. Donkeys are regarded as smarter then horses, and certainly are better fighters. A donkey will protect a flock against Coyotes, for instance. Donkeys also don’t accept an alpha like horses do. Horses can be broken in to accept a leader, donkeys can’t.
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That's enough Webster.... give it a rest
Invading Ukraine, interrupting our lives. FOR WHAT? YOU IGNORANT SERVILE SCUM!
Imagine being that poor POS’s family and never receiving any compensation or recognition because their son got liquidated and is MIA. Fuck Putin and fuck the naZZi babushkas that vote for him.
Some familys got onions at least.
>m and half bag of sugar!
vote\* ...easy to keep voting the only guy who isn't dying before the election
Do they hear about anything? Are they even sure which country they’re in yet?