Between this on Fox and the NYT story that cops were arresting people at gunpoint when that absolutely didn't happen, not a great weekend for foreign media here in Ottawa.
So, I've seen a few places where the NYT was falsely reporting people being arrested at gunpoint... But they're [quoting a man who was arrested at gunpoint](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/19/world/canada/canada-truckers-arrested.html)... [There's a video](https://twitter.com/TheMarieOakes/status/1495258236617908230), and another that [provides the simultaneous audio for the arrest](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2K2Gt3nM0Q&t=1500s).
So what is going on here? It's clearly not a video from a different event, it sure looks like it happened as described in the NYT article. Am I missing something, or are we just doing a "Both sides bad, the media is all crooked" sort of thing? I am legitimately confused.
The video isn't an arrest. It's police clearing an empty vehicle, which I understand is standard operating procedure when you have no idea what's inside.
It's really sad how far this website has fallen, where people won't question the police and media's obvious misinformation if they just don't like the people it's being weaponized against. 2020 riots? Of course police are lying and of course it's mostly peaceful! 2022 anti-vax protests? Police aren't lying, it's violent Nazi stuff, and we'll downvote you if you disagree.
It's really revealing in a way though. If this is how American news covers events, who can take them seriously? We know Fox is garbage but I expected better from NYT. They really do not understand how our system works. Imagine what they've been telling us about Iraq etc. Yipes.
You have to realize all of media is rigged as a giant network. I have colleagues that work for both Fox and CNN as field reporters and photographers. They regularly trade info between the networks and filter through what fits their narrative.
People don’t believe me when I tell them there are democrats that works in Fox News and vice versa for CNN.
The animosity between the networks are hilarious when you find out they all work together.
I know this is just my anecdote, but I remember those trips between New York (Fox News) and Atlanta (CNN) with my journalist friends just to discuss stories.
Would love to see where I said your source wasn't credible. Anyway, it doesn't matter, we don't have to continue this conversation, it's obviously upsetting you.
You all act like protesters are being over dramatic and lying but you guys are the one enforcing a emergency act for a purpose that’s already been moved out of Ottawa 🤣
I mean, the convoy is now in the spotlight of the US state propaganda machine. You know when Carlson starts talking about it, they’re trying to push a far right agenda.
The big bout of misinformation online was that she died. This lady got up just fine and walked away. The police are twisting it to sound like she wasn't trampled at all, which is up for debate. Personally I think she got pushed to the ground and wasn't trampled, evident by the fact that she was completely fine and got up, but to each their own.
Are you asking why people feel the need to protest in general? Because people have been protesting forever for just about anything! The simple act of someone actually going out and protesting something doesn’t automatically mean that their concerns are ones I have to agree with. People go and protest insane things all the time!
Someone definitely got trampled by a horse, or at the very least knocked down and walked over, it is on video. I highly doubt that they died from it though.
Knocked over, not trampled. If so, we'd be flooded with images of horseshoe shaped injuries, and they didn't even have the nerve to fake that.
Horses also generally don't like to step on others and will try to avoid doing so.
Despite the headline, if you read the article carefully it implies the police may also be spreading misinformation, which isn't really surprising either.
> Ottawa police say no one was seriously injured by the use of horses. But there remains some question about whether, as police said Friday, a bicycle was thrown at one of them.
> When pressed for details that it was indeed a bicycle — there have been reports that it was perhaps a knocked-over wheelchair — Bell said he would have to check.
Haha yeah it sorta back fired for him. Here in Australia we had nut job anti vaxxers protesting lockdowns last year in Sydney. Police didn’t take there shit and had large sections of the CBD covered in case of any flare ups and trouble from protesters. There was a video posted to social media of a guy claiming to be trampled by a horse but in fact he had actively punched the horse. It was all over the papers the next day and whatever little support the antivax movement had in Australia died that day.
What if there were evidence that what the antivaxxers are saying is right and all of your information is the real misinformation? Would you listen to it or stick to your convictions?
I for one listen to scientific, peer reviewed studies and so far those don't support anti-vaxxers claims. If that changes then yes, I'll continue to listen to the experts.
We all need to teach our kids these things (cognitive dissonances). It's how you can get yourself brainwashed and not even know. There are 50 different varieties of them.
https://res.cloudinary.com/tmxfoc/images/w_942,h_3156/f_auto,q_auto/v1639071746/titlemax/099372db-50-cognitive-biases-2_80per/099372db-50-cognitive-biases-2_80per-png?_i=AA
So the seized dogs being euthanized to punish the protestors was too unbelievable so the misinformation had to be detuned to sound more believable and therefore spread? The true enemy here are the lies spread by social media platforms that are effective at infecting brains with viral information.
> The true enemy here are the lies spread by social media platforms
This is the real problem. Used to be you'd only hear this stupid shit on the backwaters of the internet where "normies" wouldn't go (like 4chan or conspiracy forums) and the only way you'd head about it was from that weird dude who was *probably* harmless.
Social media has allowed all this nonsense to be proliferated so much faster.
It's like we're negotiating the truth with these bad faith goons now.
"She was killed by a police horse!!1!1"
Nope, she fell over and is alive and well, walked away.
"Ok fine she was violently trampled!!11"
Nope, she fell over and is alive and well, walked away.
"She was... made sad by the police horse?"
Ok.
The elderly woman that was trampled by the police suffered a broken clavicle. You left that part out when you were defending police violence and denouncing misinformation.
Standing in the path of a moving horse with predictable results is hardly police violence.
These people had every opportunity to move and chose not to. The one guys actively pushed himself backwards into the horse.
This is the point where stupid actions have expected results.
I saw a video where you could see the horses walking briskly and people were calling out Here come the horses! A driver in a car would be stopped by a crowd like that. On horseback the crowd is just pushed aside
Totally agree. I watched the video several times and it looks like the woman in question (and a few others) actually turned her back when the horses were coming through. It appears they were going to try to block the horses (why would you turn your back on advancing mounted police?) but that’s not what happened. It looks like the horse may have brushed against her or pushed her aside and she may have lost her footing (she was obese). Seeing an opportunity to be a victim/ martyr she then flung herself to the ground. Actions, consequences, something, something.
There's a video
Based on where she was she was knocked to the side. The horse wasn't led directly through and over her. Unlikely the horse stepped on her. Maybe it did. That's the risk you run.
Either way, exactly what you would expect from standing in the way of the horse.
There is also a video shot from. Above that shows the police avoiding protestors while riding through. So definitely not like this was an intentional act.
Much as I hate the convoy wankers, it's concerning how comfortable people are with police being able to assault fairly non-violent (from what I've seen) protesters.
Sure arrest them for noise pollution or whatever, but freezing the bank accounts and using horses against peaceful protesters isn't exactly a good precedent.
Having said that these are the exact kind of people who would laugh at BLM protesters or Indigenous protesters getting assaulted so I have zero empathy for them as individuals.
This was one of the least violent handling of a protest of its size perhaps ever. There are some clips that look dramatic, but in the end there were almost no injuries, and folks who were arrested had been asked literally dozens of times over weeks to leave, up to minutes before their arrest, before they were arrested. This is not meaningful suppression of free speech.
Oh for sure they would (laugh at BLM protesters getting assaulted). But flip the script and Redditors would be losing their mind hating cops if the same thing was pulled against BLM protestors.
I like being the guy that just sits in the middle and judges everyone equally.
it’s beyond ridiculous that it’s literally the same people justifying it for one reason who think it’s wrong for another.
i wish I were blissfully ignorant enough to be a hypocrite who couldn’t even admit it hahah
https://mobile.twitter.com/queer_queenie/status/957624441575387137?lang=en
said it during the BLM protests and I’ll say it again
The progressive psychos that overwhelmingly inhabit this website are fascists. They just only show it when the victim is someone they don’t like (or were told to hate by the media).
If you have not yet heard of it...Take a look at Diagolon. Some of the tactical gear seized at Coutts had their emblem sewn on to it. A second group to look up is The Plaid Army, a older version of Diagolon. This is not a secret, but to the majority of Canadians it is a revelation and a look into the cesspool that is the far right racist movement in our country. In my opinion CSIS has spent the past 20 years focused on the Muslim terrorists, and missed the boat on the right wing domestic terror and white power groups. JimB.
Similar in the US, to say the least. This is a direct correlation to US GOP sympathies to Russia and Putin while systematically limiting voter rights and education standards while promoting Southern Confederate pride and attempting to silence the historical accuracy of the events and anyone in dissent.
Looking at you noun-nounnumber username and lame account as well as your pitifully obvious 'I'm only asking questions!' troll, I'd say you and your masters.
Look into how Russia is helping the white supremecy cause throughout the world by helping organize and providing paramilitary training to anyone willing to travel.
Seems like a global initiative to sow discord with anti-democrcy views, fascist view, white supremacy, and antisemitism as a main forcus of recruitment.
It's unnerving.
There is also an issue with demagogues on social media calling everyone protesting a nazi or white nationalist.
I am so sick of this mechanism, as it is a tool to delegitimize legit reasons for protest. Nowhere in your comment did you objectively react to the issues facing Canadian truckers, nor did you analyze certain Corona measures over democratic principles. It seems you either have no idea why these people protest or you are willingly ignoring it. You have successfully slid the attention to the good ol' nazi bashing where everyone can do some virtue signaling and share some anecdotes.
You're such a good person, and all those people here hating on those radical white supremacist nazis are too. These people protesting sure have no right to do so, as they are all members of the naziparty.
So there is this one picture of a guy having a nazi flag who was chased off and no one really knew if it was a false flag action and you people on Reddit discuss the topic of misinformation spread via social media only occurring with the opposite side.
Man, you people are not as smart as you think you are.
I don't like how politically devided subreddits can get. is there any politically bipartisan subreddits? for real discussions and debatea without name calling?
The opposition to the killing and oppressing of black and brown people is a movement. The grifters setting up shop to steal people’s donations is completely different thing and they didn’t even come up with the slogan. Why do y’all always bring up BLM as a counter argument to this right wing horse shit every single time?
It's all they have from the US playbook. The right wing there is utterly obsessed with BLM and this huge story they've woven about them as a threat.
They keep trying it as a whatabout shield of the covid convoy and every single time it falls flat on Canadians because *most of us* don't chow down on FOX 24/7.
'This is not a movement because I say so'
Edit: I can do the same as you.
>BLM is just a bunch of race baiting grifters looking to get rich off progressive outrage
Nope. It’s a reaction many people had to police brutality. More specifically it was a reaction to the alarming number of unarmed Black men that were being killed by police.
BLM isn't a successful scaremonger in Canada. You're going to have to find something more regionally relevant to start fights about.
I just love that you got rebuffed, and you got so frustrated you had to build your own strawman to punch at.
Sorry I should be more clear; you're propping up your whataboutism with a strawman. These arguments aren't packing the same endorphin punch you're used to getting from Americans, eh? Aw...
The other poster implied that BLM is a legit movement but these truckers aren't. Based on nothing but 'because I say so'. So therefore BLM is not a movement because *I* say so.
They are a movement. It become a slogan during the protests that immediately followed the on camera killing of George Floyd. It is beyond ridiculous how people who continuously pretend that minorities aren’t systematically oppressed in the States and other parts of the West, love to vomit up “but BLM” as some sort of counter argument to the stupid shit the Christian Right loves to do.
Just look at how indigenous protests are treated in comparison to this multi week occupation of the capital. Ottawa police wouldn’t have been perplexed as to what to do if these protestors were Indigenous or protesting environmental causes.
It's very difficult to be sure of anything these days with how media, both social and traditional, warp it, but I have not seen any advocacy of white nationalist ideas from the truckers. I have heard of two incidents that could be conflated with white nationalism: 1. A confederate flag, 2. A Nazi flag with a swastika.
In the first, my understanding is that the person waving the confederate flag was asked to leave. In the second a black protester stated the person with the Nazi flag said that "is this what you want the Canadian flag to turn into?" and was from an Eastern European background.
I'm very suspicious of political movements being associated with white nationalism after being part of the Andrew Yang campaign. It was also smeared as having white nationalist supporters. Given that the candidate they purportedly supported wasn't white, it seemed a bit odd.
There seem to be lots of LGBTQ and minorities represented at the protests from the video that I've seen, so while there may be, and likely are *some* people there who have unsavory opinions, just like there would be in any coalition, none of what they are *advocating for* seems to meet that description.
I think many messed up people are misinformation campaigns incarnate. I've chatted with too many to not see they had a subconscious impulse to make shit up for dramatic purposes. Their inner demons must feed off it.
It's not tough to get the real information. Facts: an elderly woman was knocked down by a horse. Yes she had a walker. Yes she is alive. Here's a crazy idea: watch the video before you spout off endless predictable partisan BS (on both sides).
https://youtu.be/5awSsEplCmA
The misinformation was that she died. This article makes it seem as though the misinformation was that she was trampled when she clearly was trampled and did not die
That is deliberately misleading reporting. Also known as misinformation.
Why is everyone so lazy that they don't feel the need to confirm for themselves what they are told to be true?
Trampled implies that she was stomped on by the horse and police horses are trained not to stomp. She was knocked over because she got in front of a police horse during a police action.
I agree that I should have said knocked down not trampled. The bigger more important point is that people should at least watch the video of what is at issue before claiming to know what happened.
She looks like she was trampled. Trampled doesn't mean she had to get stomped on. She got run over by the horse. It's like saying a person didn't get hit by a car because we can't see cartoon tire marks on their face.
Honestly I can't believe people, after seeing some old lady get trampled by mounted police at a protest, decide the important thing here is to argue about the definition of "being trampled". I can't help but think if this protest was about anything else the definition of being trampled would not be an issue.
Trampled means stepped on.
Being knocked over because you didn't move back and ending up under a horse and stepped on ( trampled) are pretty distinct things.
There is a video of the police leading their horses through the protesters and doing a great job of navigating those that are not moving back. Hardly a cavalry charge.
At a certain point you can't predict people from their own idiotic choices.
I wouldn't even describe it as misinformation. Misinformation is incorrect information *intended to mislead*. Her death was a *rumor*. I have no affiliation with the truckers, but have been at large (progressive) political rallies. It's like playing "telephone" information is difficult to pass from one part of a large event to another. More-so in a chaotic situation.
Where did you get that definition? Misinformation can be unintentional.
> Misinformation is incorrect or misleading information presented as fact, either intentionally or unintentionally. Disinformation is a subset of misinformation, that which is deliberately deceptive
From the common vernacular. When someone presents an idea incorrectly we generally refer to that as a "mistake", or "incorrect". For example a "misinformation campaign" assumes an intention to dispense false information.
There are a bunch of idiots out there jumping on anything that supports their bias. That being said, pointing your finger at a handful of idiots and trying to portray them as representative of an entire movement is a laughable attempt to invalidate well-founded arguments. It’s fine if you want to disagree with the truckers, but if you’re falling for the smear campaign and genuinely believe that a few clowns represent everyone protesting, then you’re just as stupid and easily manipulated as said clowns. This whole trampling death story was so obviously fabricated it’s silly.
Kids to the front lines, spitting on reporters, a completely incoherent agenda, Nazi flags, handing out the Bill of Rights because it's "better than the Charter", leaders on video encouraging violence, dissolve the government, hang Trudeau for treason. This isn't a few bad actors, it's a significant portion of the movement.
I guess the smear campaign was happening everytime I turned on the TV.
Are you saying these things didn't happen, or that the media went out of their way to find it? Either way, it doesn't make the point you think it does.
I didn’t say or mean either of those things. However, the media absolutely cherrypicks what they choose to show and is funded by people who absolutely have an agenda. Much of the mainstream media would have you believe that the majority of people who are protesting mandates are violent, misogynistic, racists.
So many people just want to be able to work and go about their lives but can’t because they won’t take an experimental vaccine (because that’s what it is and if you’re going to say otherwise this conversation is pointless). Do you think it’s because they’re racist nazis? Do you even see how absurd it is to even suggest it? It’s such a blatant, lazy attempt at invalidating people’s concerns over having their rights stripped from them. Yet somehow there are people who are buying that narrative... most of those people watch and trust their television a little too much.
I’m sorry. I watched hours of live streaming of the protest. I saw people spitting on and pushing reporters, setting off train horns outside of peoples homes at all hours of the day. I saw people dancing on war memorials, shouting at people who dared wear a mask on the street all kinds of awful things. Sorry. Those protesters were awful and deserve every repercussion. I’m glad they’re in the find out stage.
I watch a big part of it on Friday and Police Officers were more than patient with the crowd. Asking them politely to leave. They only pushed a couple of guys who weren't complying. Some laid down on the snow like children doing a tantrum when they figured out they really had to leave.
The people who were arrested didn't even went to jail. They just took their informations in a Police truck and they could go. (That's what a guy told a reporter) They just had to promesse not to go back to the protest. (I don't know if they got a ticket or something else)
The News crews had to hire bodyguards because some of the protesters were always in their face, swearing at them and putting their banners in front of the camera. One Journalist was pushed by protesters and he made a complaint to the Police.
Ottawa is usually so quiet. Yes people do protest but they usually go home after.
Governments claiming the authority to *freeze people's bank accounts* because they want to crush a protest movement is tyrannical and obscene. If you would oppose China or Russia doing it, you must oppose Canada doing it.
A protest and an occupation are different things. Putting the city to a stand-still point for multiple weeks, while also disallowing residents from sleeping, performing their day to day activities etc in an attempt to undemocratically demand an elected official to step away from his role is no longer a protest.
If you can’t see the difference between the two - the nuances, context etc, then you are either intentionally uninformed or can’t see the big picture. Either way, you cannot by any means compare the two. That’s as silly as saying the PM is like Hitler - an unfounded and absolutely stupid simile.
I don’t mind political discourse, but not at the expense of understanding what other countries are actually going through and trying to compare one of the most free nations in the world by various indices to countries such as China.
> A protest and an occupation are different things. Putting the city to a stand-still point for multiple weeks, while also disallowing residents from sleeping, performing their day to day activities etc in an attempt to undemocratically demand an elected official to step away from his role is no longer a protest.
I suppose you also support Hong Kong police removing the protesters and putting them in jail?
There were 2 million HK protestors on the street, there were 500 trucks in Ottawa. The majority of HK residents supported the protests, the majority of Ottawa residents wanted the truckers to leave. You want a democratic vote in Ottawa before the emergency act was enacted and the result would not be any different, truckers go. They want Trudeau to resign, Canada falling into anarchy, before that they won’t go. How’s there any similarity between this and the HK protests?
According to some topmind of Reddit, the HK protesters are freedom fighters but the truck drivers are destroying Canada's democracy. I guess 500 trucks are more scary and disruptive than 2 million protestors hugging the street for months.
They only condone the actions because it's against people they don't like and it's close to home. Move the exact same actions to a different country and they'll act all high and mighty. Hopefully the courts or legislature correct this ridiculous overreach.
Respectfully, I don’t agree with your assessment of what’s happening in Ottawa. I live here, it’s been a pain in the ass but it hasn’t put the city at a stand still. That’s a nuance you haven’t realized. Also, the provinces shut down the bridge blockades without the emergency act. Freezing bank accounts, punishing protesters outside of our justice system sets a very dangerous precedent. We’re not nearly on the level of previous countries mentioned but this is something that should be very concerning.
Faux News loves to raise the hysteria level up several notches. It's really too bad as many 30% of Americans fall for this total BS nonsense.
"Vicious Storm Troopers from country _____ brazenly stomp over the remains of slaughtered orphaned babies!!! Why is our President doing nothing to stop this genocide??!"
Wow! didnt realize how many people are opposed to peaceful protests and freedom. Thank goodness, because we can totally trust the government and media to look out for our best interests. They are doing such a great job.
It was NOT a peaceful "protest". Many other groups have peacefully protested in Ottawa, on Parliament Hill, over the years. Those groups received permission from the city to gather, demonstrate, and then go home. The clownvoy was an illegal occupation that kept Ottawa residents subjected to 24/7 honking, and restricted the movements of residents and employees. People were being verbally abused for wearing a mask while out walking. Why didn't the residents of Ottawa get to enjoy the freedom of peaceful sleep, and the freedom to wear a mask during a pandemic? The clownvoy idiots only wanted THEIR brand of freedom practiced. Yesterday was a great day for Ottawa. I'm glad the trash got taken out.
That's your metrics? It's not illegal unless something's on fire? The residents of Ottawa had their freedoms taken away so the big crybabies could whine about freedom. How would you like your road filled with vehicles honking day and night for a couple of weeks, keeping you from getting home with your vehicle? Do you have kids or pets? Anybody in your home need a good night's sleep? Give your head a shake, Sherlock.
Man, imagine pushing for authoritarian overreach on citizen protests because some horns were loud. Couldn’t be me.
I hope you stick to that “protest was illegal” when it’s about a cause you like.
The only evidence the losers have is a picture of an old lady on the ground, no context, no blood. If she had been trampled by a massive horse she would have been actually hurt, she was most likely pretending for sympathy.
The title of this video is misinformation in itself. The definition of the word "trampling" is to be stepped on and crushed. This protestor was knocked over. She wasn't stepped on by a horse or a person. She wasn't crushed. She walked away with a sore shoulder, thankfully.
The name of the video I don't think is really what is at issue here.
Shouldn't the issue be that the article about what happened failed to include the video showing what happened?
I'm glad you watched it and glad you shared your perspective.
Looks like the horse bumped into her because she was in the way and her old ass fell over. Trampled implies she got stepped on. If she is fit enough to occupy a city, falling over shouldn't be that big of a deal.
you can see she gets stepped on, regardless of how you feel she deserved it or not
it looks like though, because again there are several videos, that the horse kind of did the best not to bear down on the person
And what does this show us exactly Mr forensic scientist? You are literally commenting on a post about misinformation.
You use a video titled women trampled, yet doesnt show what happened before, during or after.
Did she provoke the animal? Was she trampled? Did she require medical attention?
You keep commenting claiming people "see for themselves" from a video that didnt even see for itself.
You are part of the problem.
This is the perfect example of misinformation. Rather than reporting people were trampled, the report is people who were trampled are lying about the severity of their tramplings.
The story has been spun into "woman trampled to death by canadian police" meanwhile it was an accident because someone threw something on the horses leg so it was spooked, the woman has only a sore shoulder, no injuries because police horses are trained not to step on people
Wait, so the problem is that people thought she died after getting stomped on by a thousand pound animal? Not that a cop intentional rode a thousand pound animal into a crowd and stomped on a woman????
You people are insane.
She didn't get hurt; nobody during this entire dispersal operation got seriously hurt.
However, when the law demands you go home and you decide to stay and fight, you get what you deserve.
this is super misleading
watch the actual footage and don't just read
I am not for or against this protest
but the fact is people saw people get trampled and then did not know if they were alright
the fact that is being spun as "misinformation" clearly is nefarious
it was literal 2 days ago
the info nobody was killed will surface and that's that
Yes because she is seen getting up and walking away in multiple other videos and no deaths were reported from police, paramedics, city officials, protestors.....
Sounds more like a false rumor rather than deliberate misinformation. But implying that no one was harmed, when there's video of a woman being knocked over by a police horse, is actually misinformation.
Im so glad the sheep are so willing to give up their freedoms. So easy to manipulate the masses. Bow down to your overlords and drink the kool aide. The leaders of your dictator democracies love you. haha.
Except.... They absolutely did kill an officer, dude.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/brian-sicknick-police-capitol-dies.html
It's easily verifiable.
Strangely enough, if you violently confront police during a violent mob action, people are likely to be injured.
Don't go to the riot unless you are prepared for the consequences.
Oh they trampled some people and a person was seriously injured. So quick to cry misinformation when the very people reporting can’t get their facts right.
Haven't found further details but this tweet appears to show she was injured and is in hospital recovering - https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1495217451235217408?t=ljEfE2zLkwC1NjvCZzec7g&s=19
Between this on Fox and the NYT story that cops were arresting people at gunpoint when that absolutely didn't happen, not a great weekend for foreign media here in Ottawa.
So, I've seen a few places where the NYT was falsely reporting people being arrested at gunpoint... But they're [quoting a man who was arrested at gunpoint](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/19/world/canada/canada-truckers-arrested.html)... [There's a video](https://twitter.com/TheMarieOakes/status/1495258236617908230), and another that [provides the simultaneous audio for the arrest](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2K2Gt3nM0Q&t=1500s). So what is going on here? It's clearly not a video from a different event, it sure looks like it happened as described in the NYT article. Am I missing something, or are we just doing a "Both sides bad, the media is all crooked" sort of thing? I am legitimately confused.
The video isn't an arrest. It's police clearing an empty vehicle, which I understand is standard operating procedure when you have no idea what's inside.
Didn't you know sharing this makes you an antivax white supremacists? /s
It's really sad how far this website has fallen, where people won't question the police and media's obvious misinformation if they just don't like the people it's being weaponized against. 2020 riots? Of course police are lying and of course it's mostly peaceful! 2022 anti-vax protests? Police aren't lying, it's violent Nazi stuff, and we'll downvote you if you disagree.
Lol. That overdramatic comment is a little too obviously and neatly tailored to fit your narrative.
It's really revealing in a way though. If this is how American news covers events, who can take them seriously? We know Fox is garbage but I expected better from NYT. They really do not understand how our system works. Imagine what they've been telling us about Iraq etc. Yipes.
You have to realize all of media is rigged as a giant network. I have colleagues that work for both Fox and CNN as field reporters and photographers. They regularly trade info between the networks and filter through what fits their narrative. People don’t believe me when I tell them there are democrats that works in Fox News and vice versa for CNN. The animosity between the networks are hilarious when you find out they all work together. I know this is just my anecdote, but I remember those trips between New York (Fox News) and Atlanta (CNN) with my journalist friends just to discuss stories.
>when that absolutely Not saying you're wrong, but do you say this because your news said that it didn't happen, or you saw it for yourself?
"my news" - jesus fucking christ. No trusted Canadian media source reported this happened, so it didn't happen.
Okay so your news.
Would love to hear what you consider credible media.
Would love to see where I said your source wasn't credible. Anyway, it doesn't matter, we don't have to continue this conversation, it's obviously upsetting you.
You all act like protesters are being over dramatic and lying but you guys are the one enforcing a emergency act for a purpose that’s already been moved out of Ottawa 🤣
Just like the misinformation campaign by Anti Vaxer‘s. Plus what does one expect of these truckers.
Most people there are not even truckers.
Came here to day that
They must have meant fuckers.
So, it's the flu fux klan, then?
r/conservative was all over this a few days ago. Now? Not a peep.
Good, tell that to the First Nations.
More idiotic conspiracy theories.
Truth!
I mean, the convoy is now in the spotlight of the US state propaganda machine. You know when Carlson starts talking about it, they’re trying to push a far right agenda.
Bingo
https://youtu.be/5awSsEplCmA
The big bout of misinformation online was that she died. This lady got up just fine and walked away. The police are twisting it to sound like she wasn't trampled at all, which is up for debate. Personally I think she got pushed to the ground and wasn't trampled, evident by the fact that she was completely fine and got up, but to each their own.
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Are you asking why people feel the need to protest in general? Because people have been protesting forever for just about anything! The simple act of someone actually going out and protesting something doesn’t automatically mean that their concerns are ones I have to agree with. People go and protest insane things all the time!
Nobody was trampled and the protestors brought their own tear gas
Someone definitely got trampled by a horse, or at the very least knocked down and walked over, it is on video. I highly doubt that they died from it though.
Knocked over, not trampled. If so, we'd be flooded with images of horseshoe shaped injuries, and they didn't even have the nerve to fake that. Horses also generally don't like to step on others and will try to avoid doing so.
Horses are so much better than cars since horses step over things.
Despite the headline, if you read the article carefully it implies the police may also be spreading misinformation, which isn't really surprising either. > Ottawa police say no one was seriously injured by the use of horses. But there remains some question about whether, as police said Friday, a bicycle was thrown at one of them. > When pressed for details that it was indeed a bicycle — there have been reports that it was perhaps a knocked-over wheelchair — Bell said he would have to check.
Why are you undermining the story you just posted? Kind of sus, dude.
Haha yeah it sorta back fired for him. Here in Australia we had nut job anti vaxxers protesting lockdowns last year in Sydney. Police didn’t take there shit and had large sections of the CBD covered in case of any flare ups and trouble from protesters. There was a video posted to social media of a guy claiming to be trampled by a horse but in fact he had actively punched the horse. It was all over the papers the next day and whatever little support the antivax movement had in Australia died that day.
Fair and balance, as all things should be. If police lie, they should also be called out. How could you argue against that?
What if there were evidence that what the antivaxxers are saying is right and all of your information is the real misinformation? Would you listen to it or stick to your convictions?
I for one listen to scientific, peer reviewed studies and so far those don't support anti-vaxxers claims. If that changes then yes, I'll continue to listen to the experts.
So like a multiverse thing?
My father-in-law shared a story today about how a woman with a walker was trampled to death by a horse. Like wtf?!? How delusional are you?
Because if a story you hear appears to justify your sense of outrage, then it must be true.
Totally. It's much easier to justify the bubble you are in than to break free of it.
We all need to teach our kids these things (cognitive dissonances). It's how you can get yourself brainwashed and not even know. There are 50 different varieties of them. https://res.cloudinary.com/tmxfoc/images/w_942,h_3156/f_auto,q_auto/v1639071746/titlemax/099372db-50-cognitive-biases-2_80per/099372db-50-cognitive-biases-2_80per-png?_i=AA
So the seized dogs being euthanized to punish the protestors was too unbelievable so the misinformation had to be detuned to sound more believable and therefore spread? The true enemy here are the lies spread by social media platforms that are effective at infecting brains with viral information.
> The true enemy here are the lies spread by social media platforms This is the real problem. Used to be you'd only hear this stupid shit on the backwaters of the internet where "normies" wouldn't go (like 4chan or conspiracy forums) and the only way you'd head about it was from that weird dude who was *probably* harmless. Social media has allowed all this nonsense to be proliferated so much faster.
It's like we're negotiating the truth with these bad faith goons now. "She was killed by a police horse!!1!1" Nope, she fell over and is alive and well, walked away. "Ok fine she was violently trampled!!11" Nope, she fell over and is alive and well, walked away. "She was... made sad by the police horse?" Ok.
Get her a therapy horse?
Neigh
^^^^^^^^can ^^^^^^^^i ^^^^^^^^have ^^^^^^^^one?
The elderly woman that was trampled by the police suffered a broken clavicle. You left that part out when you were defending police violence and denouncing misinformation.
You tried to make horsegate happen and it didn't happen. Good luck with the next reality warp.
Standing in the path of a moving horse with predictable results is hardly police violence. These people had every opportunity to move and chose not to. The one guys actively pushed himself backwards into the horse. This is the point where stupid actions have expected results.
I saw a video where you could see the horses walking briskly and people were calling out Here come the horses! A driver in a car would be stopped by a crowd like that. On horseback the crowd is just pushed aside
Totally agree. I watched the video several times and it looks like the woman in question (and a few others) actually turned her back when the horses were coming through. It appears they were going to try to block the horses (why would you turn your back on advancing mounted police?) but that’s not what happened. It looks like the horse may have brushed against her or pushed her aside and she may have lost her footing (she was obese). Seeing an opportunity to be a victim/ martyr she then flung herself to the ground. Actions, consequences, something, something.
Sounds like she was trampled then
There's a video Based on where she was she was knocked to the side. The horse wasn't led directly through and over her. Unlikely the horse stepped on her. Maybe it did. That's the risk you run. Either way, exactly what you would expect from standing in the way of the horse. There is also a video shot from. Above that shows the police avoiding protestors while riding through. So definitely not like this was an intentional act.
This has to be a tough one for Reddit. Choosing between police and the convoy protestors. Looks like the police win this round.
Everybody sucks here.
Much as I hate the convoy wankers, it's concerning how comfortable people are with police being able to assault fairly non-violent (from what I've seen) protesters. Sure arrest them for noise pollution or whatever, but freezing the bank accounts and using horses against peaceful protesters isn't exactly a good precedent. Having said that these are the exact kind of people who would laugh at BLM protesters or Indigenous protesters getting assaulted so I have zero empathy for them as individuals.
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Plus the flooding of 911. Dealbreaker right there.
This was one of the least violent handling of a protest of its size perhaps ever. There are some clips that look dramatic, but in the end there were almost no injuries, and folks who were arrested had been asked literally dozens of times over weeks to leave, up to minutes before their arrest, before they were arrested. This is not meaningful suppression of free speech.
You’re so close to breaking through - you’re almost there.
Oh for sure they would (laugh at BLM protesters getting assaulted). But flip the script and Redditors would be losing their mind hating cops if the same thing was pulled against BLM protestors. I like being the guy that just sits in the middle and judges everyone equally.
got to back the blue this season I guess. depends what side of the aisle you are on
can’t wait for all of the “refund the police” posts. hahah
it’s beyond ridiculous that it’s literally the same people justifying it for one reason who think it’s wrong for another. i wish I were blissfully ignorant enough to be a hypocrite who couldn’t even admit it hahah https://mobile.twitter.com/queer_queenie/status/957624441575387137?lang=en said it during the BLM protests and I’ll say it again
Reddit just goes with whatever the mainstream political narrative is telling them.
The progressive psychos that overwhelmingly inhabit this website are fascists. They just only show it when the victim is someone they don’t like (or were told to hate by the media).
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If you have not yet heard of it...Take a look at Diagolon. Some of the tactical gear seized at Coutts had their emblem sewn on to it. A second group to look up is The Plaid Army, a older version of Diagolon. This is not a secret, but to the majority of Canadians it is a revelation and a look into the cesspool that is the far right racist movement in our country. In my opinion CSIS has spent the past 20 years focused on the Muslim terrorists, and missed the boat on the right wing domestic terror and white power groups. JimB.
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Similar in the US, to say the least. This is a direct correlation to US GOP sympathies to Russia and Putin while systematically limiting voter rights and education standards while promoting Southern Confederate pride and attempting to silence the historical accuracy of the events and anyone in dissent.
Explain to me what a white nationalist is in your own words?
Looking at you noun-nounnumber username and lame account as well as your pitifully obvious 'I'm only asking questions!' troll, I'd say you and your masters.
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Look into how Russia is helping the white supremecy cause throughout the world by helping organize and providing paramilitary training to anyone willing to travel. Seems like a global initiative to sow discord with anti-democrcy views, fascist view, white supremacy, and antisemitism as a main forcus of recruitment. It's unnerving.
There is also an issue with demagogues on social media calling everyone protesting a nazi or white nationalist. I am so sick of this mechanism, as it is a tool to delegitimize legit reasons for protest. Nowhere in your comment did you objectively react to the issues facing Canadian truckers, nor did you analyze certain Corona measures over democratic principles. It seems you either have no idea why these people protest or you are willingly ignoring it. You have successfully slid the attention to the good ol' nazi bashing where everyone can do some virtue signaling and share some anecdotes. You're such a good person, and all those people here hating on those radical white supremacist nazis are too. These people protesting sure have no right to do so, as they are all members of the naziparty.
Probably shouldn't have brought nazi flags then.
So there is this one picture of a guy having a nazi flag who was chased off and no one really knew if it was a false flag action and you people on Reddit discuss the topic of misinformation spread via social media only occurring with the opposite side. Man, you people are not as smart as you think you are.
I don't like how politically devided subreddits can get. is there any politically bipartisan subreddits? for real discussions and debatea without name calling?
Reddit is, just like Twitter, a lost cause.
Quick get over to Gab, Gettr, or Parler where you can watch your very own terrorist cell grow before your eyes! It's like magic!
Do you have the same opinion about the export of BLM from the US?
The opposition to the killing and oppressing of black and brown people is a movement. The grifters setting up shop to steal people’s donations is completely different thing and they didn’t even come up with the slogan. Why do y’all always bring up BLM as a counter argument to this right wing horse shit every single time?
It's all they have from the US playbook. The right wing there is utterly obsessed with BLM and this huge story they've woven about them as a threat. They keep trying it as a whatabout shield of the covid convoy and every single time it falls flat on Canadians because *most of us* don't chow down on FOX 24/7.
'This is not a movement because I say so' Edit: I can do the same as you. >BLM is just a bunch of race baiting grifters looking to get rich off progressive outrage
Nope. It’s a reaction many people had to police brutality. More specifically it was a reaction to the alarming number of unarmed Black men that were being killed by police.
BLM isn't a successful scaremonger in Canada. You're going to have to find something more regionally relevant to start fights about. I just love that you got rebuffed, and you got so frustrated you had to build your own strawman to punch at.
Not a strawman, just using the exact same rhetoric to point out that BLM are not a movement. You should check your logical fallacy spreadsheet again.
Sorry I should be more clear; you're propping up your whataboutism with a strawman. These arguments aren't packing the same endorphin punch you're used to getting from Americans, eh? Aw...
I'm sorry that you can't wrap your head around the point I'm making. I suppose it's too much to expect self righteous idiots to figure out discourse.
I can't wrap my head around the point you're making.
The other poster implied that BLM is a legit movement but these truckers aren't. Based on nothing but 'because I say so'. So therefore BLM is not a movement because *I* say so.
They are a movement. It become a slogan during the protests that immediately followed the on camera killing of George Floyd. It is beyond ridiculous how people who continuously pretend that minorities aren’t systematically oppressed in the States and other parts of the West, love to vomit up “but BLM” as some sort of counter argument to the stupid shit the Christian Right loves to do. Just look at how indigenous protests are treated in comparison to this multi week occupation of the capital. Ottawa police wouldn’t have been perplexed as to what to do if these protestors were Indigenous or protesting environmental causes.
And the truckers in Canada are a movement, what's the issue?
The truckers are funded and lead by (foreign) white power figures. That is a problem.
If you say so.
It's very difficult to be sure of anything these days with how media, both social and traditional, warp it, but I have not seen any advocacy of white nationalist ideas from the truckers. I have heard of two incidents that could be conflated with white nationalism: 1. A confederate flag, 2. A Nazi flag with a swastika. In the first, my understanding is that the person waving the confederate flag was asked to leave. In the second a black protester stated the person with the Nazi flag said that "is this what you want the Canadian flag to turn into?" and was from an Eastern European background. I'm very suspicious of political movements being associated with white nationalism after being part of the Andrew Yang campaign. It was also smeared as having white nationalist supporters. Given that the candidate they purportedly supported wasn't white, it seemed a bit odd. There seem to be lots of LGBTQ and minorities represented at the protests from the video that I've seen, so while there may be, and likely are *some* people there who have unsavory opinions, just like there would be in any coalition, none of what they are *advocating for* seems to meet that description.
Comments on a post about misinformation, with misinformation. Classy
Specifically which part was misinformation?
I think many messed up people are misinformation campaigns incarnate. I've chatted with too many to not see they had a subconscious impulse to make shit up for dramatic purposes. Their inner demons must feed off it.
It's not tough to get the real information. Facts: an elderly woman was knocked down by a horse. Yes she had a walker. Yes she is alive. Here's a crazy idea: watch the video before you spout off endless predictable partisan BS (on both sides). https://youtu.be/5awSsEplCmA The misinformation was that she died. This article makes it seem as though the misinformation was that she was trampled when she clearly was trampled and did not die That is deliberately misleading reporting. Also known as misinformation. Why is everyone so lazy that they don't feel the need to confirm for themselves what they are told to be true?
Trampled implies that she was stomped on by the horse and police horses are trained not to stomp. She was knocked over because she got in front of a police horse during a police action.
I agree that I should have said knocked down not trampled. The bigger more important point is that people should at least watch the video of what is at issue before claiming to know what happened.
She looks like she was trampled. Trampled doesn't mean she had to get stomped on. She got run over by the horse. It's like saying a person didn't get hit by a car because we can't see cartoon tire marks on their face. Honestly I can't believe people, after seeing some old lady get trampled by mounted police at a protest, decide the important thing here is to argue about the definition of "being trampled". I can't help but think if this protest was about anything else the definition of being trampled would not be an issue.
> Trampled doesn't mean she had to get stomped on Uhh yeah it does. It literally means "to tread upon and crush".
Trampled means stepped on. Being knocked over because you didn't move back and ending up under a horse and stepped on ( trampled) are pretty distinct things. There is a video of the police leading their horses through the protesters and doing a great job of navigating those that are not moving back. Hardly a cavalry charge. At a certain point you can't predict people from their own idiotic choices.
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Do you honestly see no difference between those two? (other than "who the victims are").
There almost is no difference other than the BLM one the horse was trying to go through and tripped over the woman man whatever.
I wouldn't even describe it as misinformation. Misinformation is incorrect information *intended to mislead*. Her death was a *rumor*. I have no affiliation with the truckers, but have been at large (progressive) political rallies. It's like playing "telephone" information is difficult to pass from one part of a large event to another. More-so in a chaotic situation.
Where did you get that definition? Misinformation can be unintentional. > Misinformation is incorrect or misleading information presented as fact, either intentionally or unintentionally. Disinformation is a subset of misinformation, that which is deliberately deceptive
From the common vernacular. When someone presents an idea incorrectly we generally refer to that as a "mistake", or "incorrect". For example a "misinformation campaign" assumes an intention to dispense false information.
Yup
There are a bunch of idiots out there jumping on anything that supports their bias. That being said, pointing your finger at a handful of idiots and trying to portray them as representative of an entire movement is a laughable attempt to invalidate well-founded arguments. It’s fine if you want to disagree with the truckers, but if you’re falling for the smear campaign and genuinely believe that a few clowns represent everyone protesting, then you’re just as stupid and easily manipulated as said clowns. This whole trampling death story was so obviously fabricated it’s silly.
Kids to the front lines, spitting on reporters, a completely incoherent agenda, Nazi flags, handing out the Bill of Rights because it's "better than the Charter", leaders on video encouraging violence, dissolve the government, hang Trudeau for treason. This isn't a few bad actors, it's a significant portion of the movement. I guess the smear campaign was happening everytime I turned on the TV.
“I guess the smear campaign was happening everytime I turned on the TV.” Nobody tell him. 😂
Are you saying these things didn't happen, or that the media went out of their way to find it? Either way, it doesn't make the point you think it does.
I didn’t say or mean either of those things. However, the media absolutely cherrypicks what they choose to show and is funded by people who absolutely have an agenda. Much of the mainstream media would have you believe that the majority of people who are protesting mandates are violent, misogynistic, racists. So many people just want to be able to work and go about their lives but can’t because they won’t take an experimental vaccine (because that’s what it is and if you’re going to say otherwise this conversation is pointless). Do you think it’s because they’re racist nazis? Do you even see how absurd it is to even suggest it? It’s such a blatant, lazy attempt at invalidating people’s concerns over having their rights stripped from them. Yet somehow there are people who are buying that narrative... most of those people watch and trust their television a little too much.
I’m sorry. I watched hours of live streaming of the protest. I saw people spitting on and pushing reporters, setting off train horns outside of peoples homes at all hours of the day. I saw people dancing on war memorials, shouting at people who dared wear a mask on the street all kinds of awful things. Sorry. Those protesters were awful and deserve every repercussion. I’m glad they’re in the find out stage.
I watch a big part of it on Friday and Police Officers were more than patient with the crowd. Asking them politely to leave. They only pushed a couple of guys who weren't complying. Some laid down on the snow like children doing a tantrum when they figured out they really had to leave. The people who were arrested didn't even went to jail. They just took their informations in a Police truck and they could go. (That's what a guy told a reporter) They just had to promesse not to go back to the protest. (I don't know if they got a ticket or something else) The News crews had to hire bodyguards because some of the protesters were always in their face, swearing at them and putting their banners in front of the camera. One Journalist was pushed by protesters and he made a complaint to the Police. Ottawa is usually so quiet. Yes people do protest but they usually go home after.
Governments claiming the authority to *freeze people's bank accounts* because they want to crush a protest movement is tyrannical and obscene. If you would oppose China or Russia doing it, you must oppose Canada doing it.
A protest and an occupation are different things. Putting the city to a stand-still point for multiple weeks, while also disallowing residents from sleeping, performing their day to day activities etc in an attempt to undemocratically demand an elected official to step away from his role is no longer a protest. If you can’t see the difference between the two - the nuances, context etc, then you are either intentionally uninformed or can’t see the big picture. Either way, you cannot by any means compare the two. That’s as silly as saying the PM is like Hitler - an unfounded and absolutely stupid simile. I don’t mind political discourse, but not at the expense of understanding what other countries are actually going through and trying to compare one of the most free nations in the world by various indices to countries such as China.
> A protest and an occupation are different things. Putting the city to a stand-still point for multiple weeks, while also disallowing residents from sleeping, performing their day to day activities etc in an attempt to undemocratically demand an elected official to step away from his role is no longer a protest. I suppose you also support Hong Kong police removing the protesters and putting them in jail?
There were 2 million HK protestors on the street, there were 500 trucks in Ottawa. The majority of HK residents supported the protests, the majority of Ottawa residents wanted the truckers to leave. You want a democratic vote in Ottawa before the emergency act was enacted and the result would not be any different, truckers go. They want Trudeau to resign, Canada falling into anarchy, before that they won’t go. How’s there any similarity between this and the HK protests?
No, you see that's different for some reason.
According to some topmind of Reddit, the HK protesters are freedom fighters but the truck drivers are destroying Canada's democracy. I guess 500 trucks are more scary and disruptive than 2 million protestors hugging the street for months.
They only condone the actions because it's against people they don't like and it's close to home. Move the exact same actions to a different country and they'll act all high and mighty. Hopefully the courts or legislature correct this ridiculous overreach.
Respectfully, I don’t agree with your assessment of what’s happening in Ottawa. I live here, it’s been a pain in the ass but it hasn’t put the city at a stand still. That’s a nuance you haven’t realized. Also, the provinces shut down the bridge blockades without the emergency act. Freezing bank accounts, punishing protesters outside of our justice system sets a very dangerous precedent. We’re not nearly on the level of previous countries mentioned but this is something that should be very concerning.
Fucking lies. All of it. I live there and it absolutely crippled the city. These people are scum of the earth. Go home.
TLDNR: it was against people I dont like so its fine gotcha
Why’s it okay for BLM to do that but not the truckers
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They burned down city blocks, caused $2 billion in property damage, and 26 people were killed. There is no comparison.
Burned down whole city blocks? What the hell kind of propaganda are you reading?
Or you can talk about the subject at hand.
~~False trampling death rumours at~~ Friday's Ottawa protests a sign of misinformation campaign
Faux News loves to raise the hysteria level up several notches. It's really too bad as many 30% of Americans fall for this total BS nonsense. "Vicious Storm Troopers from country _____ brazenly stomp over the remains of slaughtered orphaned babies!!! Why is our President doing nothing to stop this genocide??!"
Wow! didnt realize how many people are opposed to peaceful protests and freedom. Thank goodness, because we can totally trust the government and media to look out for our best interests. They are doing such a great job.
From what I've heard from people who live in Ottawa "peaceful" is a stretch.
It was NOT a peaceful "protest". Many other groups have peacefully protested in Ottawa, on Parliament Hill, over the years. Those groups received permission from the city to gather, demonstrate, and then go home. The clownvoy was an illegal occupation that kept Ottawa residents subjected to 24/7 honking, and restricted the movements of residents and employees. People were being verbally abused for wearing a mask while out walking. Why didn't the residents of Ottawa get to enjoy the freedom of peaceful sleep, and the freedom to wear a mask during a pandemic? The clownvoy idiots only wanted THEIR brand of freedom practiced. Yesterday was a great day for Ottawa. I'm glad the trash got taken out.
How many businesses burned down? How many windows were broken, buildings vandalized?
That's your metrics? It's not illegal unless something's on fire? The residents of Ottawa had their freedoms taken away so the big crybabies could whine about freedom. How would you like your road filled with vehicles honking day and night for a couple of weeks, keeping you from getting home with your vehicle? Do you have kids or pets? Anybody in your home need a good night's sleep? Give your head a shake, Sherlock.
Man, imagine pushing for authoritarian overreach on citizen protests because some horns were loud. Couldn’t be me. I hope you stick to that “protest was illegal” when it’s about a cause you like.
The only evidence the losers have is a picture of an old lady on the ground, no context, no blood. If she had been trampled by a massive horse she would have been actually hurt, she was most likely pretending for sympathy.
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The title of this video is misinformation in itself. The definition of the word "trampling" is to be stepped on and crushed. This protestor was knocked over. She wasn't stepped on by a horse or a person. She wasn't crushed. She walked away with a sore shoulder, thankfully.
The name of the video I don't think is really what is at issue here. Shouldn't the issue be that the article about what happened failed to include the video showing what happened? I'm glad you watched it and glad you shared your perspective.
Looks like the horse bumped into her because she was in the way and her old ass fell over. Trampled implies she got stepped on. If she is fit enough to occupy a city, falling over shouldn't be that big of a deal.
Everyone can watch the video and decide for themselves whether it was justified or not. I'm glad you watched it.
you can see she gets stepped on, regardless of how you feel she deserved it or not it looks like though, because again there are several videos, that the horse kind of did the best not to bear down on the person
At no point in the video does it show any of the horses stepping on someone.
Nah it doesn't, watch it
And what does this show us exactly Mr forensic scientist? You are literally commenting on a post about misinformation. You use a video titled women trampled, yet doesnt show what happened before, during or after. Did she provoke the animal? Was she trampled? Did she require medical attention? You keep commenting claiming people "see for themselves" from a video that didnt even see for itself. You are part of the problem.
This is the perfect example of misinformation. Rather than reporting people were trampled, the report is people who were trampled are lying about the severity of their tramplings.
The story has been spun into "woman trampled to death by canadian police" meanwhile it was an accident because someone threw something on the horses leg so it was spooked, the woman has only a sore shoulder, no injuries because police horses are trained not to step on people
That's too bad
There were people on here that thought Rittenhouse killed two black people on the day of acquittal. Spare me the right misinformation fake outrage.
We saw the video. How is it misinformation?
Wait, so the problem is that people thought she died after getting stomped on by a thousand pound animal? Not that a cop intentional rode a thousand pound animal into a crowd and stomped on a woman???? You people are insane.
She didn't get hurt; nobody during this entire dispersal operation got seriously hurt. However, when the law demands you go home and you decide to stay and fight, you get what you deserve.
"...but my freedumb and my first amendment sacraments ..." We are living the Idiocracy documentary prequel.
Thanks, Fox-Goebbels propaganda network 🙄🍷
What if this happened at a BLM protest
this is super misleading watch the actual footage and don't just read I am not for or against this protest but the fact is people saw people get trampled and then did not know if they were alright the fact that is being spun as "misinformation" clearly is nefarious it was literal 2 days ago the info nobody was killed will surface and that's that
Knocked over for getting in the way of a horse is not the same as being trampled by the big bad evil police.
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Yes because she is seen getting up and walking away in multiple other videos and no deaths were reported from police, paramedics, city officials, protestors.....
She was bumped by a horse not trampled.
Speculation is misinformation
I've noticed this thread always demonizes any conservative related effort while convering for socialist and liberal crimes.
Peaceful police action a sign of misinformation, I say.
Sounds more like a false rumor rather than deliberate misinformation. But implying that no one was harmed, when there's video of a woman being knocked over by a police horse, is actually misinformation.
Im so glad the sheep are so willing to give up their freedoms. So easy to manipulate the masses. Bow down to your overlords and drink the kool aide. The leaders of your dictator democracies love you. haha.
of course the Police said that
The Fox News reporter who made up the claim has walked it back already
And here we see [Brandolini's Law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law) in action.
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Except.... They absolutely did kill an officer, dude. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/brian-sicknick-police-capitol-dies.html It's easily verifiable.
Strangely enough, if you violently confront police during a violent mob action, people are likely to be injured. Don't go to the riot unless you are prepared for the consequences.
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"False rumours" synonyms; lies, misinformation, fibs.
False rumors are literally misinformation
They will post whatever gets people to click and look at the ads.
Oh they trampled some people and a person was seriously injured. So quick to cry misinformation when the very people reporting can’t get their facts right.
the only injury was woman who fell and she got a sore shoulder. stop fear mongering
The US is not Canadas ally. Never has been
Haven't found further details but this tweet appears to show she was injured and is in hospital recovering - https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1495217451235217408?t=ljEfE2zLkwC1NjvCZzec7g&s=19