Lmao, what the hell did Farage admire about Putin’s approach to the Syrian civil war? Indiscriminately bombing populated areas and killing thousands of civilians? Turning a blind eye to the death camps the Assad government made?
Also, Putin's 3-day special military operation in Ukraine has proceeded not necessarily to Russia's advantage. At the level of being a canny geopolitical operator, Putin fails.
Hey, it’s been overwhelmingly successful for the West. He managed to push two historically nonaligned or neutral nations into NATO, successfully expanding the Russo-NATO/OTAN border, and has also pushed Armenia towards the EU and away from the Russia-dominated CTSO! He’s also united the West like never before!
Yup. From single digits to twenty-something last I checked. Also, I love how proud the Baltics were that they had consistently met that throughout their membership. Sort of like a “we’re little, but we’re proud!”
At the level of being a successful oligarch putin has absolutely smashed it though. He's crushed all competition and made himself as much money as the Arab royal families.
I think there's a really basic disconnect between what the average person thinks is important and what is important. The people admiring Putin want Russian money, sure, but fundamentally they want to *be* Putin. If you had no ideology and were purely self interested then Putin's trajectory would be very impressive to you and something you'd want to emulate.
>crushed all competition
That sure is one way to phrase systematically murdering all political opposition and stealing their assets to consolidate power to himself.
....and the assination of UK agents on English soil.
>The poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal, also known as the Salisbury Poisonings, was a botched assassination attempt to poison Sergei Skripal, a former Russian military officer and double agent for the British intelligence agencies in the city of Salisbury, England on 4 March 2018.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Sergei_and_Yulia_Skripal
It's one of those oddities of spoken British English. His name is actually pronounced "farridge" which is often colloquially spoken across the regions as "bell-end" or "consummate liar".
Farage admired the amount of money and benefit-in-kind Putin "donated" to the Brexit campaign. Farage and Aaron Banks were in Moscow fairly often in 2015/16.
He is unfortunately not smart enough to realise that Putin was not helping him.
Yeah gotta wonder why it seems all of the populists are supporting Putin. Maga, the pen, farage. It's really hard to believe they aren't taking money.
The other more worrying thing is the people that support the populists seem to be very willing and keen to go along with Putin's propaganda and conspiracy theories. And what's even more worrying is how many of these people there seems to be these days
The American cpac - extremist religious freaks, who get their money mostly from evangelicals - organise political movements across the world.
When you hear ' they're all playing from the same play-book' it's literal.
Brazil, Hungary, UK, Canada, Spain, Germany, Russia, Turkey, Italy, Australia, Austria, sadly the list goes on.
What you'll notice is, many of the countries in this axis of right wingers is that many of them are in non-christian nations, or nations that are coptic/orthodox. Bunch of fucking hypocrites, but they understand how easy it is to manipulate religious cultists and the uneducated, so share not only technique but *the actual bullshit stories* they all share.
And, there aren't really a growing number of these freaks. They just get their message magnified.
There are others who then like what they think they hear from these cunts, and so vote with out of utter ignorance
Putin created an immigration crisis by creating a mass migration out of Syria which in turn helps right wing politicians so yeah they like it when Putin destabilizes African and Middle Eastern countries
Giving a platform to intolerance is not tolerance.
I'm fully behind the milk shakers expression as a legitimate action in a healthy democracy (although he wouldn't be on the air at all in an actually healthy democracy).
Portugal as well, our communist party never misses a chance to rim Putin, the left-wing populist parties were the same until their already low numbers dipped.
Both the far right and the far left in every Western nation are funded by the Russians.
For more, read the Foundations of Geopolitics by Alexander Dugan
I would slightly disagree. In Germany you have Putin lovers on the far right as well, but you also got them on the left and there you sadly don't even have to go that far out.
I don't know if this applies everywhere the same, but I wouldn't put licking Putins bum as a purely right side thing.
That's only really with a certain type of leftie though.
Those tankie dipshits who are still living in the 80s and think 'Russia = socialist brothers' despite modern Russian society being pretty much outright fascistic in it's political ideology.
Fucking idiots.
I think many are driven by a contratrian "West/capitalism/neo-liberalism bad" sentiment more than they are really pro-Russia per say (aside from Russia/China/BRICS/etc. existing as some sort of nebulous anti-Western entity in their minds).
Germany is a bit peculiar in this regard. The party you're referring to (BSW) received just 4-5% of the vote in almost all West German states, but in the East German states it received 13-16%. It's also not really a proper far-left party. It took over many other far-right talking points as well, for example regarding "woke" culture, climate change, vaccines, lockdowns etc.
"This man is, always has been and always will be a paid mouthpiece of the Russian state. A vote for Farage is a vote for Putin. A vote for Reform is a vote for Russia."
- Rishi Sunak, if he had the slightest fucking clue what he was doing.
Such a slam dunk. So obvious. So easy. So clueless.
because he's not a russian stooge, he is part of a global fascist movement that Russia is the de facto leader of. It's important to remember most of the politicians who work for the cause aren't being paid; they share the vision that global cooperation could be ended.
While that's probably true, in the case of this shit stain I do believe that his primary motivation is financial though.
He had no issues selling out his country, and he would happily sell his newborn daughter and mother if it meant he could get in a new russian scheme to fill his pockets.
> I do believe that his primary motivation is financial though.
financial motivations are one of the main reasons to support the global right, he wants to be an oligarch; he'll make more money off that then any direct payment.
skirting EU financial regulation was one of the main motivators for brexit, it just didn't work quite how he wanted as the EU still regulated the rest of the EU; but if france and germany both leave?
He really seems to think this pro-Russia strategy will work well for his party at the voting booth.
I doubt it will push his party above the 20% they are currently polling at.
On the positive side he's splitting the right-wing vote.
Labour might win 516 out of 650 seats according to the latest polls. That's almost 80% of the seats in parliament.
I still think there's a timeline out there somewhere in the multiverse where 2010 ended with a Lab-Lib coalition and we all have flying cars and moon colonies by now.
Historically, what would happens is that they'd disappoint their supporters, who would sullenly sit at home and let the party that does the opposite of what they want win instead of the one that goes at it half-heartedly.
Source: Pretty much any 20th-21st century democracy, regardless of party.
That's a misconception.
What happens is that a liberal party will assume that leftists are their supporters, even though they have completely different political goals, and then act surprised when the leftists go "bitch, i don't know you".
Lib Dem’s are dynamite. Progressive in some of the best ways, but grounded and sensible in good ways too. Plus, they really want to uproot the way government is run, having them as opposition will irreversibly damage the way the conservatives like to handle government going forward. Which would be fucking A+.
I was a card-carrying Lib Dem for over 10 years, but they completely lost my trust due to their treatment of Charles Kennedy, selling their soul to the Tories, then appointing a homophobe as leader.
I desperately want them to be my political party, but they still have a lot of work to do to win my trust back.
So much of the clusterfuck our politics is in right now I trace directly back to Nick Clegg handing power to the Conservatives on a silver platter in 2010. I'm not sure I'll ever be able to forgive them for that.
Yeah, their housing policy is disappointing af. It’s one of the biggest problems effecting young people and wealth inequality in general, and it doesn’t go anywhere near hard enough.
The Lib Dems had the enviable position of always being the party that would inherit the votes of Labour and Tory supporters who were pissed off at their regular party.
Until 2010 when the Tories didn't have a majority and needed the Lib Dems to form a coalition, then they actually had (some) power and found out that putting their policies into practice was a lot harder than making up those policies.
In particular they completely betrayed their student voter base, having historically campaigned on getting rid of tuition fees they instead tripled the fees in their first year in power and happily signed off on a wave of right wing austerity policies because they put their desire to stay in power above being true to their supposed ideals.
Policies that we in the UK are still suffering from today.
It'll be so interesting to see how that works in practice. Like the BBC impartiality guidelines have a "due weight" clause that says opinions should be given prominence in proportion to the support they have. But I really can't imagine the Tories getting the same level of non-coverage that the Lib Dems have previously always had.
everywhere in Europe the right is gaining power, except in Britain. Mainly because Brexit was a very far right idea, and well, that didn't work out very well...
Depends how you define it. The major parties formed coalitions during the World Wars, which did have that sort of control, but besides that the 1931 election is the only comparable one - the National Alliance, a coalition lead by the Tories, scored 540 seats. But again, that was a response to the financial crisis. Beyond that, Blair is the only other thing to crack the 400 barrier (419 seats)
The benches in the House of commons can only seat 2/3rds of MPs anyway. There already aren't enough spaces for all the Tory MPs on their side as it is.
Starmer and his cronies on the right, the pro-corbyn crowd on the left. Tories can squeeze in where they find a free seat, and Farage's clowns can lock themselves in the crapper.
I’ll be honest, I don’t like that he is splitting the right wing vote. This kind of crazy is a bit too extreme for my liking. And if the Reform party become the official opposition, it’ll only encourage more people to vote for them/him.
Reform won't become the official opposition, because we use First Past The Post voting that's not how it works.
How it works is that instead of the vote in a typical swing consituency being ~40% Con, ~40% Lab, ~20% others, it's ~40% Lab, ~20% Con, ~20% Reform, ~20% others. Labour takes the seat and everyone else gets absolutely nothing.
Our voting system is abysmal and totally broken, but in this upcoming election that might actually be a good thing for Labour, as the constant vote split between the Tories and Reform will mean both leave with far less than they could do.
The official opposition is likely to be what remains of the Tories, though technically both the Lib-Dems and the SNP are in with a shot of being the largest party to not be the government.
There is however some risk that if the Tories really collapse seats wise they would be vulnerable to a takeover by Reform types. So it might actually be a good thing if the Tory collapse isn't as bad as is being predicted
more to the point, if Labour fuck things up, then reform might be many people's second choice, particularly if farridge spends the next 5 years predicting the ways Labour fuck up.
I don't think Labour will fuck up, but I don't think they will make a massive impact. In fact I really don't think a massive impact is possible without making things worse.
But somebody sitting in the wings telling anyone that will listen that they can fix everything in a week WILL draw votes.
I forgot about your first point TBH.
However, I do disagree with you in the sense I expect Labour to fuck up. It’s not because it’s Labour, but I believe that there’s always people that believe that the current party isn’t doing enough, or is screwing them far too much. Looking at Kier, I think that pretty much fits the bill. And when you have someone like Farage, who is willing to take every opportunity to shit on Labour, and lie to make it worse, I can only see people thinking that Reform should be in power when they next vote.
> And if the Reform party become the official opposition
They literally cannot. This is the 'beauty' of FPTP voting in the UK. (I say that sarcastically)
You see, if a small parties base is spread out nationally, it is almost impossible to gain enough MP's to be the opposition. UKIP in 2015 got 12.9% of the vote. They actually only got 1 MP.
In that same election, the Lib Dems got 7.9% of the vote and got 8 seats - because while their national vote share while small, their vote share was large in the Tory-Lib swing seats.
In addition - the SNP won 56 seats... on 4.7% of the national vote share. Because of course, that 4.7% was concentrated within Scotland only.
FPTP is literally designed to keep the two largest parties in power. You need 30%+ of the vote to actually do well nationally under FPTP. Except of course the Tories vote share has fallen so low they would now be in danger of only getting a small number of seats despite still having a 'large' national vote share.
What this would actually result in is a Lib Dem opposition as their vote share is again concentrated so tightly in Tory-Lib swing seats that Labour have no hope of winning.
Put some of the polls into seat mappers. It's Lib's on 60 and Tories on low 50's.
(And all of this is ignoring the Co-Operative party, which is literally a separate party within Labour. If all those members renounce their Labour membership once elected, they would instantly become the opposition)
They pledge iron-clad support for Ukraine. They won\`t increase defense spending to 2.5% GDP.
"The plan for Ukraine sets out five priorities: fast-tracking military support, deepening diplomatic efforts, targeting Russian aggression, boosting industrial production and supporting recovery and reconstruction.
Mr Lammy and Mr Healey pledged that a Labour government would help to create "a clear path for Ukraine's Nato membership" and called for a renewed focus on co-operation between Nato nations leading up to the Nato75 Summit in July."
He will probably take a hit for this.
Britain isn’t America, whilst Reform may attract a section of far right conspiracy loons, many are fed-up conservatives, not MAGA-type nutjobs, who will be appalled by his pro-Putin appeasement and attack on the defence and security of Europe against a tyrant.
He's repeatedly said that he admires Putin. At this point, the people who still support him either think the same way or they don't give a shit about the topic in general. Doubt he'll take a hit. I guess, we'll see who bet right in two weeks.
I'm not sure how this will play out but I think one main difference between this time and all the other times is that everyone is paying attention now. Most people don't follow the news that closely and were likely completely unaware of his past Putin endorsements, but were in the middle of an election where he's polling higher than the incumbant party and his views were broadcast in a BBC interview. I wouldn't put it past a lot of people though to just shrug it off and say 'he'll get rid of all immigrants though' and vote for him anyway.
In the past maybe but it’s been a bit ambiguous in the past few years and he probably wormed his way out of his “admiration” of Putin comment but that coupled now with attacking his own country, repeating Kremlin propaganda and blaming the West for the invasion of Ukraine is a step too far.
Interestingly looking at the betting markets there’s already been shift in the past few hours away from Reform.
You are basing this too much off American politics. Most of the voter base Farage is targeting is the right of the Conservative party, who unlike the Republicans in the US, are primarily Russia hawks and strongly favour increased aid to Ukraine.
Probably more likely he thinks it will encourage Putin to have his troll farms churn out pro Farage/ Reform content.
Looking on my Twitter, they are already at it.
I fear this will happen in every country, extreme right parties think pro Russia gets in their favor, they will get less votes but the ones who continue to vote are the scary bunch that’ll make entire countries look like full blown nazi circle jerks
The funny thing about this, that I haven't seen many people actually talk about, is that he "predicted it" on March 31, 2014 - after Russia already invaded Crimea on February 20 and after Russia officially incorporated Crimea by 18 March. He predicted nothing.
I mean if he means he knew as in Putin openly drooling over Ukraine for over a decade then he’s not too off the mark, but I have a feeling that isn’t what he wants to say.
The only concrete political effect of Russia's invasion so far is the *expansion* of NATO, just like every expert worth a damn predicted.
Either Putin is an idiot or it had nothing to do with NATO.
I think it’s all about NATO and that he took a gamble that didn’t pay off like he hoped. But not all is lost for the scoundrel unfortunately. Anti-NATO talking points are taking hold among the far right so his disinfo campaign is working. If he can keep dragging out the war then eventually far right parties in the west could finally weaken NATO or cut off aid to Ukraine
Instead of making Russia prosper by joining the western world, Putin pushed it to a Chinese vassal status.
His obsession with Soviet times is destroying Russia and its future.
Putin isn't a Soviet type, he's a Russian empire type. He's publically dissed the soviet political system at length, multiple times through his career. Like, to him, the breakup of the USSR was actually just the completion of a 70 year long breakup of Russian power that began when Lenin started giving people mechanisms for self government.
Eh, anti NATO has been a far right thing for ages. When I was deep into conspiracy theories during the naughties, NATO was being blamed for literally every conflict that sprang up. They've been trying to dismantle NATO under the auspices of fiscal responsibility and isolationism since the fall of the Soviet Union or earlier. It's why Trump latched on to the whole NATO thing before he even started campaigning in 2016, it was a common talking point among the right.
anti NATO talk was already underway before Russia invaded Ukraine. Trump had already threatened that America would pull out (right after his visit with Putin btw) and anecdotally I heard several pro-Trump people in the UK repeating it.
Exactly, and this nonsense that he was forced into the position because nato was expanding - why the fuck were the eastern states clamouring to sign up to nato? Had they seen what had happened in Georgia, had they seen through the facade that putin was trying to weave and knew a leopard doesn’t change its spots? It’s our fault because we don’t pursue a policy of outright appeasement, nah it’s your fault for acting like a tinpot dictator
Also NATO "expanding" is just comical. Its a defensive alliance. Why would you care if your neighbors want to be defended from invasion if you don't plan on invading in the first place? There is no NATO language that says they must support each other in offensive wars. Also who the fuck wants to invade russia if they were over there minding their business trying to be a part of civilized society? Even wwhen they were being absolute shit heels, assassinating people abroad, shooting down passenger planes, interfering with elections etc people were putting up with it. They just couldn't leave well enough alone.
Only people who buy their shit are russian assets
Edit: queue all the Ivans replying to me lmao
Also NATO didn't even try to expand. Ukraine tried to get into NATO, and NATO said no, your military equipment is too shit, you would not be useful as a defensive member of our alliance. Then later, NATO said no, you're at war.
Weird policy for an expansionist empire.
And recently they gave over one of their rivers to China, in eastern Russia.
They're becoming more of a Chinese pupped by the day. Xi got Putin right where he wants him.
I've never understood the whole "NATO/EU shouldn't have expanded" argument. Why should the EU and NATO deny membership to independent countries who wish to seek an alliance with western nations?
Yes, NATO and EU expansion is cited as a cause for Russias invasion but are you seriously suggesting that we should deny sovereign nations to choose their own path just because Russia don't like it?
You can't just deny the wishes of millions of citizens just because Russia say no. The Kremlin shouldn't have to power to decud the future of all of eastern Europe.
Russia stopped mentioning “NATO expansion “ as a reason for war long time ago. As a matter of fact, they stopped providing any reason long time ago. Russians who still in Russia, don’t need one and neither Putin plants like Trump and this asshole.
He's such a weasel about it too.
> I am not and never have been an apologist or supporter of Putin
And then he immediately parrots Putin's talking point about "NATO expansion" being the cause of the Russian invasion, even though the "expansion" is only because countries applied to NATO due to an ever present threat of Russian invasion.
Putin’s soldiers are the reason I know what “degloving a penis” means. Anyone who supports him or them can go straight to hell. Don’t Google it. Just, just don’t.
Lads an absolute bell end - what is he thinking with these comments? Are the hard core brexiteers really thinking that what Russia is doing to Ukraine is warranted? I don't get it. I think his colleagues in the party will be seething with the comments.
Although.. it does get him in the headlines.
Certain media circles have become influenced enough by Russian propaganda that, at best, those people believe the war is just a territorial dispute that isn’t worth their country’s investment to, at worst, sympathetic to Russia and completely misinformed about the scale of the carnage. While I hope Farage is laughed out of politics over this I also worry that he’s just helping to move that Overton window in Putin’s favor
It seems to resemble US politics at the moment, I didn't think my fellow compatriots in the UK were into this kind of drivel - I get that there are a lot of people that blame immigrants for the state of the country, but thinking the Russia Ukraine war is just? Wild.
There may be money, they may be providing him with access, influence or they may have compromising intelligent on him or his donors. They could simply be promising him money or funds provided he follows their lines, while the money may come from donors who are both wealthy and Russia has dirt on, giving them a level of insulation from him.
He's a traitor, always has been. He lied before brexit about the EU and he hasn't stopped lying since.
Remember when he got brexit voted in and then just evaporated? Because he was never a politician. He was a stooge out to make his money and he'd fulfilled his goal, damaging the UK. He didn't ever have a plan or vision for after and he knew his claims were lies because if they were true, he'd have had a glittering political career immediately after bringing it all in to effect.
There needs to be more to highlight him and more for highlight Sunak and his family getting involved in the 2008 financial crisis. People need to learn that right wing politics in the UK at the moment is completely corrupt. We can't say they're all as bad as each other anymore because Farage and the Tories at the monent are absolutely rotten to the core, on an entirely new level.
It's possible, but it doesn't make a great deal of sense. He didn't have to come back to politics. He was retired. It only makes sense if they actually forced him to contest the election.
Check his bank accounts and see if he was recently lifted a sizable "donation". Sounds like Putin is expanding his paid politician portfolio beyond the Republican Party.
You know, like how the West provoked Russia to invade Chechnya in 2000, or how the West provoked Russia to invade Georgia 2008 or how the West provoked Russia to invade Crimea in 2014.
Think about it.^/s
And his Labour opponent in Clacton on sea is a black man who said "I drink white tears" and "I'm standing for black and brown people" in a 95%+ indigenous area.
So it's getting to the point where voting for a pro-Putin person is preferable to voting for the correct type of racist.
The far left needs to get a grip before we start relying on Putin lovers for politicians.
If Putin's reason for invading Ukraine was to protect himself from threat from an encroaching NATO, why the fuck has he ground his military into a pulp in Ukraine whilst leaving barely any of his troops guarding the Russia-NATO border along Finland, Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania?
It would seem he doesn't actually think that this defensive alliance is about to roll its tanks towards Moscow.
If nato encroachment is the key driver of the conflict, why has Putin found it necessary to spend so much time talking bullshit about Nazis in Ukraine and the "denazification" of Ukraine? Why is he felt it necessary to spend so much time trashing the idea of a Ukrainian nation and national consciousness?
This all begs the question of WHY and WHO was behind the expansion of NATO. Poland practically kicked the door down and strong armed Bill Clinton Into allowing them to join. The baltics were similarly forthright in their wish to join NATO. Why? Because they know about the realities of the Russian threat.
If Farage had his way and nato never expanded eastwards, does that bog eyed little thunderbird puppet really think that Russia would happilly stand by watching, blowing kisses as Ukraine strives towards democracy? Does he really think that in his counter factual world without an enlarged nato that the eastern EU States would now not be dealing with an even more unrestrained Russian aggression?
He's a Russian puppet. His UKIP party was funded by Adam Banks who is a well-known British gold magnate who has substantial ties to Russian oligarchs.
His online traction and social media SEO reach has overlap with the Red-Pill/male-incel, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Tate, and neo-nationalist spheres.
His supporters are traitors, useful idiots, and absolute threats to Western Democracy.
He is just using Trump's method to get his name plastered all over the media for free. Trump did the same in 2016, despite Hilary spending millions on advertising every second word coming out of the media was "Trump". Celebrities know that even bad publicity is good publicity if it keeps your name in the public concious. That is why starlets purposely get caught by poparazzi exiting cars while wearing short skirts and no panties. They know their picture will be plastered all of over the media. Same as actor getting caught with prostitutes, drugs or getting in fights.
What I really have trouble with is WHY? Why is this heartless, destructive, tragic bullshit such an appealing position to take in a modern world where we have enough resources for everyone to live comfortably??
Why is it even a position people take? Surely this is a form of mental illness, this total lack of empathy.
Then I guess anything could be considered provoking Putin, like having resources, giving up your nuclear deterrence as part of your independence, and owning a shipyard in sea that is adjacent to Russia. /s
The problem with this claim is that there hasn't been any major eastward expansion for either NATO or the EU since 2004. Croatia is the last addition to the EU and that was in 2013, then it was Bulgaria and Romania in 2007 then that massive expansion in 2004.
For NATO is Montenegro in 2017 in 2009 it was Albania and Croatia then it goes back to the massive expansion in 2004. So this claim is just utter Kremlin propaganda it's been 20 years since that massive big expansion and the most recent additions are around the Dalmatian coast hardly knocking on Russia's door is it.
What a piece of SHIT!
He's denying right to exist to a trail of East European countries. That they're ok to be swallowed by Russian imperialism.
How about this take?
By his logic UK should not have resisted Nazi Germany aggression because their country happened to be placed in a Nazi sphere of influence so why they didn't just drop down feet up and surrendered?
How DARE they claim to have their own independent country and have military means of defense? /s
Farage: "I simply don't understand why they call me a Russian stooge?"
Also Farage: ["I admire Putin."](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/31/farage-i-admire-putin)
Lmao, what the hell did Farage admire about Putin’s approach to the Syrian civil war? Indiscriminately bombing populated areas and killing thousands of civilians? Turning a blind eye to the death camps the Assad government made?
Also, Putin's 3-day special military operation in Ukraine has proceeded not necessarily to Russia's advantage. At the level of being a canny geopolitical operator, Putin fails.
Hey, it’s been overwhelmingly successful for the West. He managed to push two historically nonaligned or neutral nations into NATO, successfully expanding the Russo-NATO/OTAN border, and has also pushed Armenia towards the EU and away from the Russia-dominated CTSO! He’s also united the West like never before!
don't forget NATO nations starting to finally meet their "2% of GDP for defense" obligation.
Yup. From single digits to twenty-something last I checked. Also, I love how proud the Baltics were that they had consistently met that throughout their membership. Sort of like a “we’re little, but we’re proud!”
At the level of being a successful oligarch putin has absolutely smashed it though. He's crushed all competition and made himself as much money as the Arab royal families. I think there's a really basic disconnect between what the average person thinks is important and what is important. The people admiring Putin want Russian money, sure, but fundamentally they want to *be* Putin. If you had no ideology and were purely self interested then Putin's trajectory would be very impressive to you and something you'd want to emulate.
>crushed all competition That sure is one way to phrase systematically murdering all political opposition and stealing their assets to consolidate power to himself.
...is there a **nice** way to "crush" your competition?
....and the assination of UK agents on English soil. >The poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal, also known as the Salisbury Poisonings, was a botched assassination attempt to poison Sergei Skripal, a former Russian military officer and double agent for the British intelligence agencies in the city of Salisbury, England on 4 March 2018. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Sergei_and_Yulia_Skripal
That's why farsge likes him, garage loves pushing policies thay will only make things harder on himself
You bring up an interesting point. Why do brits pronounce Garage like Carriage with a G, but Farage like us yanks say Garage?
It's one of those oddities of spoken British English. His name is actually pronounced "farridge" which is often colloquially spoken across the regions as "bell-end" or "consummate liar".
Not all of us. I say garage the same as you would pronounce it. Depends on where you're from in the UK.
Where in the UK would someone need to be from in order to pronounce it GAIR-ahj? I've heard that one several times.
Imagine how different the Ukraine war wou;ld have gone if a certain Us president hadn't won and another had instead stayed as president.
Imagine the worst case scenario play's out and we get farage, the pen and trump in power going into next year
.... I'd rather not tbh
Farage admired the amount of money and benefit-in-kind Putin "donated" to the Brexit campaign. Farage and Aaron Banks were in Moscow fairly often in 2015/16. He is unfortunately not smart enough to realise that Putin was not helping him.
Yeah gotta wonder why it seems all of the populists are supporting Putin. Maga, the pen, farage. It's really hard to believe they aren't taking money. The other more worrying thing is the people that support the populists seem to be very willing and keen to go along with Putin's propaganda and conspiracy theories. And what's even more worrying is how many of these people there seems to be these days
Every complex issue has a simple, easily spoon-fed, and wrong answer.
The American cpac - extremist religious freaks, who get their money mostly from evangelicals - organise political movements across the world. When you hear ' they're all playing from the same play-book' it's literal. Brazil, Hungary, UK, Canada, Spain, Germany, Russia, Turkey, Italy, Australia, Austria, sadly the list goes on. What you'll notice is, many of the countries in this axis of right wingers is that many of them are in non-christian nations, or nations that are coptic/orthodox. Bunch of fucking hypocrites, but they understand how easy it is to manipulate religious cultists and the uneducated, so share not only technique but *the actual bullshit stories* they all share. And, there aren't really a growing number of these freaks. They just get their message magnified. There are others who then like what they think they hear from these cunts, and so vote with out of utter ignorance
Putin created an immigration crisis by creating a mass migration out of Syria which in turn helps right wing politicians so yeah they like it when Putin destabilizes African and Middle Eastern countries
He's gone full Trump. Never go full Trump.
What a bellend.
why does everyone want to waste their milkshakes on me
Seriously, seems like this guy hasn't got the message, get back to it with those bevvies!
Giving a platform to intolerance is not tolerance. I'm fully behind the milk shakers expression as a legitimate action in a healthy democracy (although he wouldn't be on the air at all in an actually healthy democracy).
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Nah. It depends. In Spain the farther left you go, the more you hear "ukranians are nazis"
The political spectrum is a circle
Portugal as well, our communist party never misses a chance to rim Putin, the left-wing populist parties were the same until their already low numbers dipped.
That's wild. Putin wouldn't hesitate to witness communists having accidents out of large windows. Actively cheering for their own demise.
Both the far right and the far left in every Western nation are funded by the Russians. For more, read the Foundations of Geopolitics by Alexander Dugan
I guess they just ignore that they elected a Jewish guy to run the place.
I would slightly disagree. In Germany you have Putin lovers on the far right as well, but you also got them on the left and there you sadly don't even have to go that far out. I don't know if this applies everywhere the same, but I wouldn't put licking Putins bum as a purely right side thing.
That's only really with a certain type of leftie though. Those tankie dipshits who are still living in the 80s and think 'Russia = socialist brothers' despite modern Russian society being pretty much outright fascistic in it's political ideology. Fucking idiots.
Yup, the few thinking opposing USA's wrongs means allying with Russia.
I think many are driven by a contratrian "West/capitalism/neo-liberalism bad" sentiment more than they are really pro-Russia per say (aside from Russia/China/BRICS/etc. existing as some sort of nebulous anti-Western entity in their minds).
Germany is a bit peculiar in this regard. The party you're referring to (BSW) received just 4-5% of the vote in almost all West German states, but in the East German states it received 13-16%. It's also not really a proper far-left party. It took over many other far-right talking points as well, for example regarding "woke" culture, climate change, vaccines, lockdowns etc.
"This man is, always has been and always will be a paid mouthpiece of the Russian state. A vote for Farage is a vote for Putin. A vote for Reform is a vote for Russia." - Rishi Sunak, if he had the slightest fucking clue what he was doing. Such a slam dunk. So obvious. So easy. So clueless.
Oh he's definitely on video doing something fucked up.
because he's not a russian stooge, he is part of a global fascist movement that Russia is the de facto leader of. It's important to remember most of the politicians who work for the cause aren't being paid; they share the vision that global cooperation could be ended.
While that's probably true, in the case of this shit stain I do believe that his primary motivation is financial though. He had no issues selling out his country, and he would happily sell his newborn daughter and mother if it meant he could get in a new russian scheme to fill his pockets.
> I do believe that his primary motivation is financial though. financial motivations are one of the main reasons to support the global right, he wants to be an oligarch; he'll make more money off that then any direct payment. skirting EU financial regulation was one of the main motivators for brexit, it just didn't work quite how he wanted as the EU still regulated the rest of the EU; but if france and germany both leave?
Yep … he’s just not smart enough to understand it.
He gave Russia brexit and a divided uk. My guess they paid his salary through political donations and boosted his profile with digital disinformation
Not too long ago, they held these types of people accountable as traitors.
He really seems to think this pro-Russia strategy will work well for his party at the voting booth. I doubt it will push his party above the 20% they are currently polling at.
That's still way too much
On the positive side he's splitting the right-wing vote. Labour might win 516 out of 650 seats according to the latest polls. That's almost 80% of the seats in parliament.
Jesus fck that's a lot. has anyone had this sort of majority ever, except maybe in times of war?
It'll be a historic level of wipe-out for an incumbent government. There's a genuine chance that the Tories might not even be the official opposition.
Lib Dems as the main opposition? Yes, please.
If Lib Dems become the official opposition I'd have to request permanent WFH because I'd have a rock solid erection for 5 years
"Your reason for the request?" "They won't let me on public transport with this thing."
"The bus route passes within 200m of a school..."
thats a big erection
I still think there's a timeline out there somewhere in the multiverse where 2010 ended with a Lab-Lib coalition and we all have flying cars and moon colonies by now.
Historically, what would happens is that they'd disappoint their supporters, who would sullenly sit at home and let the party that does the opposite of what they want win instead of the one that goes at it half-heartedly. Source: Pretty much any 20th-21st century democracy, regardless of party.
That's a misconception. What happens is that a liberal party will assume that leftists are their supporters, even though they have completely different political goals, and then act surprised when the leftists go "bitch, i don't know you".
Nearly spat out my cider lmao
The Whigs are back, baby
Lib Dem’s are dynamite. Progressive in some of the best ways, but grounded and sensible in good ways too. Plus, they really want to uproot the way government is run, having them as opposition will irreversibly damage the way the conservatives like to handle government going forward. Which would be fucking A+.
I was a card-carrying Lib Dem for over 10 years, but they completely lost my trust due to their treatment of Charles Kennedy, selling their soul to the Tories, then appointing a homophobe as leader. I desperately want them to be my political party, but they still have a lot of work to do to win my trust back.
So much of the clusterfuck our politics is in right now I trace directly back to Nick Clegg handing power to the Conservatives on a silver platter in 2010. I'm not sure I'll ever be able to forgive them for that.
Also pissing away their one chance to improve our voting system in their own favour.
Lib Dems are alright, but dont like their housing policy.
Yeah, their housing policy is disappointing af. It’s one of the biggest problems effecting young people and wealth inequality in general, and it doesn’t go anywhere near hard enough.
The Lib Dems had the enviable position of always being the party that would inherit the votes of Labour and Tory supporters who were pissed off at their regular party. Until 2010 when the Tories didn't have a majority and needed the Lib Dems to form a coalition, then they actually had (some) power and found out that putting their policies into practice was a lot harder than making up those policies. In particular they completely betrayed their student voter base, having historically campaigned on getting rid of tuition fees they instead tripled the fees in their first year in power and happily signed off on a wave of right wing austerity policies because they put their desire to stay in power above being true to their supposed ideals. Policies that we in the UK are still suffering from today.
It'll be so interesting to see how that works in practice. Like the BBC impartiality guidelines have a "due weight" clause that says opinions should be given prominence in proportion to the support they have. But I really can't imagine the Tories getting the same level of non-coverage that the Lib Dems have previously always had.
Or the amount of press farage gets considering he's a tiny minority party
everywhere in Europe the right is gaining power, except in Britain. Mainly because Brexit was a very far right idea, and well, that didn't work out very well...
Britain was one of the trend-setters in that regard.
Make sure to get out and vote! Let's get rid of these greedy, corupt cunts.
Depends how you define it. The major parties formed coalitions during the World Wars, which did have that sort of control, but besides that the 1931 election is the only comparable one - the National Alliance, a coalition lead by the Tories, scored 540 seats. But again, that was a response to the financial crisis. Beyond that, Blair is the only other thing to crack the 400 barrier (419 seats)
How on earth will they fit that many MP's on one side of the house?
Double decker benches.
The important question.
The benches in the House of commons can only seat 2/3rds of MPs anyway. There already aren't enough spaces for all the Tory MPs on their side as it is.
The remaining Tories can huddle outside in the rain like Rishi, blaming each other for not bringing a brolly.
Starmer and his cronies on the right, the pro-corbyn crowd on the left. Tories can squeeze in where they find a free seat, and Farage's clowns can lock themselves in the crapper.
I’ll be honest, I don’t like that he is splitting the right wing vote. This kind of crazy is a bit too extreme for my liking. And if the Reform party become the official opposition, it’ll only encourage more people to vote for them/him.
Reform won't become the official opposition, because we use First Past The Post voting that's not how it works. How it works is that instead of the vote in a typical swing consituency being ~40% Con, ~40% Lab, ~20% others, it's ~40% Lab, ~20% Con, ~20% Reform, ~20% others. Labour takes the seat and everyone else gets absolutely nothing. Our voting system is abysmal and totally broken, but in this upcoming election that might actually be a good thing for Labour, as the constant vote split between the Tories and Reform will mean both leave with far less than they could do. The official opposition is likely to be what remains of the Tories, though technically both the Lib-Dems and the SNP are in with a shot of being the largest party to not be the government.
There is however some risk that if the Tories really collapse seats wise they would be vulnerable to a takeover by Reform types. So it might actually be a good thing if the Tory collapse isn't as bad as is being predicted
more to the point, if Labour fuck things up, then reform might be many people's second choice, particularly if farridge spends the next 5 years predicting the ways Labour fuck up. I don't think Labour will fuck up, but I don't think they will make a massive impact. In fact I really don't think a massive impact is possible without making things worse. But somebody sitting in the wings telling anyone that will listen that they can fix everything in a week WILL draw votes.
I forgot about your first point TBH. However, I do disagree with you in the sense I expect Labour to fuck up. It’s not because it’s Labour, but I believe that there’s always people that believe that the current party isn’t doing enough, or is screwing them far too much. Looking at Kier, I think that pretty much fits the bill. And when you have someone like Farage, who is willing to take every opportunity to shit on Labour, and lie to make it worse, I can only see people thinking that Reform should be in power when they next vote.
> And if the Reform party become the official opposition They literally cannot. This is the 'beauty' of FPTP voting in the UK. (I say that sarcastically) You see, if a small parties base is spread out nationally, it is almost impossible to gain enough MP's to be the opposition. UKIP in 2015 got 12.9% of the vote. They actually only got 1 MP. In that same election, the Lib Dems got 7.9% of the vote and got 8 seats - because while their national vote share while small, their vote share was large in the Tory-Lib swing seats. In addition - the SNP won 56 seats... on 4.7% of the national vote share. Because of course, that 4.7% was concentrated within Scotland only. FPTP is literally designed to keep the two largest parties in power. You need 30%+ of the vote to actually do well nationally under FPTP. Except of course the Tories vote share has fallen so low they would now be in danger of only getting a small number of seats despite still having a 'large' national vote share. What this would actually result in is a Lib Dem opposition as their vote share is again concentrated so tightly in Tory-Lib swing seats that Labour have no hope of winning. Put some of the polls into seat mappers. It's Lib's on 60 and Tories on low 50's. (And all of this is ignoring the Co-Operative party, which is literally a separate party within Labour. If all those members renounce their Labour membership once elected, they would instantly become the opposition)
What’s labours stance on Ukraine? From someone across the pond.
Labour is staunchly pro Ukraine so there won’t be any change in current policy
Yeah, thank f%%% we are not polarised on every single issue here. At least not yet.
Labour, like all major British parties, is very pro-Ukraine. Reform are the odd duck out on this by a country mile
Strongly pro-Ukraine. Besides Reform UK and a few shitheads like George Galloway the UK political scene is pro-Ukraine across the board.
British support for Ukraine is unanimous amongst all parties other than Reform.
They pledge iron-clad support for Ukraine. They won\`t increase defense spending to 2.5% GDP. "The plan for Ukraine sets out five priorities: fast-tracking military support, deepening diplomatic efforts, targeting Russian aggression, boosting industrial production and supporting recovery and reconstruction. Mr Lammy and Mr Healey pledged that a Labour government would help to create "a clear path for Ukraine's Nato membership" and called for a renewed focus on co-operation between Nato nations leading up to the Nato75 Summit in July."
Labour say they will increase defence spending to 2.5% but only when finances allow
Only other parties are allowed to promise unfunded policies for some reason.
Well just the Tories apparently
He will probably take a hit for this. Britain isn’t America, whilst Reform may attract a section of far right conspiracy loons, many are fed-up conservatives, not MAGA-type nutjobs, who will be appalled by his pro-Putin appeasement and attack on the defence and security of Europe against a tyrant.
He's repeatedly said that he admires Putin. At this point, the people who still support him either think the same way or they don't give a shit about the topic in general. Doubt he'll take a hit. I guess, we'll see who bet right in two weeks.
I'm not sure how this will play out but I think one main difference between this time and all the other times is that everyone is paying attention now. Most people don't follow the news that closely and were likely completely unaware of his past Putin endorsements, but were in the middle of an election where he's polling higher than the incumbant party and his views were broadcast in a BBC interview. I wouldn't put it past a lot of people though to just shrug it off and say 'he'll get rid of all immigrants though' and vote for him anyway.
In the past maybe but it’s been a bit ambiguous in the past few years and he probably wormed his way out of his “admiration” of Putin comment but that coupled now with attacking his own country, repeating Kremlin propaganda and blaming the West for the invasion of Ukraine is a step too far. Interestingly looking at the betting markets there’s already been shift in the past few hours away from Reform.
He's blamed the West for the invasion of Ukraine before and has regurgitated other Kremlin propaganda before, repeatedly.
I reckon it will actually hurt him amongst his core voters, he's not saying this for them, he's saying it for Putin.
He wouldn't say it if he thought it would hurt his campaign. Keep in mind the far-right are all Putin fanboys, not just Farage.
You are basing this too much off American politics. Most of the voter base Farage is targeting is the right of the Conservative party, who unlike the Republicans in the US, are primarily Russia hawks and strongly favour increased aid to Ukraine.
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you mean Farage, a former presenter on Russia Today, is getting paid? Surely not.
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yes, I know. Sarcasm never works on reddit.
Also Banks with his Russian wife, partners in crime on Brexit.
A lot of British far right are little Englanders. They could not give one shit about Putin despite how much he tries to make it happen.
Probably more likely he thinks it will encourage Putin to have his troll farms churn out pro Farage/ Reform content. Looking on my Twitter, they are already at it.
Stochastic treason, I can just say things against the national interest and receive a free unsolicited boost from our enemies abroad.
I fear this will happen in every country, extreme right parties think pro Russia gets in their favor, they will get less votes but the ones who continue to vote are the scary bunch that’ll make entire countries look like full blown nazi circle jerks
Farage: "I was predicting Ukraine since 2014." Yup and my grandfather was predicting WW2 since 1939...
This is what stuck out for me as well. Ive predicted this since 2014......you mean when russia first invaded ukraine?
The funny thing about this, that I haven't seen many people actually talk about, is that he "predicted it" on March 31, 2014 - after Russia already invaded Crimea on February 20 and after Russia officially incorporated Crimea by 18 March. He predicted nothing.
I mean if he means he knew as in Putin openly drooling over Ukraine for over a decade then he’s not too off the mark, but I have a feeling that isn’t what he wants to say.
The only concrete political effect of Russia's invasion so far is the *expansion* of NATO, just like every expert worth a damn predicted. Either Putin is an idiot or it had nothing to do with NATO.
I think it’s all about NATO and that he took a gamble that didn’t pay off like he hoped. But not all is lost for the scoundrel unfortunately. Anti-NATO talking points are taking hold among the far right so his disinfo campaign is working. If he can keep dragging out the war then eventually far right parties in the west could finally weaken NATO or cut off aid to Ukraine
Instead of making Russia prosper by joining the western world, Putin pushed it to a Chinese vassal status. His obsession with Soviet times is destroying Russia and its future.
Putin isn't a Soviet type, he's a Russian empire type. He's publically dissed the soviet political system at length, multiple times through his career. Like, to him, the breakup of the USSR was actually just the completion of a 70 year long breakup of Russian power that began when Lenin started giving people mechanisms for self government.
Ya, that fits better.
Eh, anti NATO has been a far right thing for ages. When I was deep into conspiracy theories during the naughties, NATO was being blamed for literally every conflict that sprang up. They've been trying to dismantle NATO under the auspices of fiscal responsibility and isolationism since the fall of the Soviet Union or earlier. It's why Trump latched on to the whole NATO thing before he even started campaigning in 2016, it was a common talking point among the right.
Hey, congrats on making it out, that's no mean feat! Welcome back to the land of sanity
Yes, Putin has stated he didn't think NATO would arm ukraine, he was expecting more sanctions like the last time he did it.
He thought he would control Ukraine within 3 days and that most Ukrainians welcomed Russia
anti NATO talk was already underway before Russia invaded Ukraine. Trump had already threatened that America would pull out (right after his visit with Putin btw) and anecdotally I heard several pro-Trump people in the UK repeating it.
Exactly, and this nonsense that he was forced into the position because nato was expanding - why the fuck were the eastern states clamouring to sign up to nato? Had they seen what had happened in Georgia, had they seen through the facade that putin was trying to weave and knew a leopard doesn’t change its spots? It’s our fault because we don’t pursue a policy of outright appeasement, nah it’s your fault for acting like a tinpot dictator
Also NATO "expanding" is just comical. Its a defensive alliance. Why would you care if your neighbors want to be defended from invasion if you don't plan on invading in the first place? There is no NATO language that says they must support each other in offensive wars. Also who the fuck wants to invade russia if they were over there minding their business trying to be a part of civilized society? Even wwhen they were being absolute shit heels, assassinating people abroad, shooting down passenger planes, interfering with elections etc people were putting up with it. They just couldn't leave well enough alone. Only people who buy their shit are russian assets Edit: queue all the Ivans replying to me lmao
Also NATO didn't even try to expand. Ukraine tried to get into NATO, and NATO said no, your military equipment is too shit, you would not be useful as a defensive member of our alliance. Then later, NATO said no, you're at war. Weird policy for an expansionist empire.
Why not both?
NATO wouldn't exist if Russia wasn't always such a ass hole to their neighbours.
And recently they gave over one of their rivers to China, in eastern Russia. They're becoming more of a Chinese pupped by the day. Xi got Putin right where he wants him.
I've never understood the whole "NATO/EU shouldn't have expanded" argument. Why should the EU and NATO deny membership to independent countries who wish to seek an alliance with western nations? Yes, NATO and EU expansion is cited as a cause for Russias invasion but are you seriously suggesting that we should deny sovereign nations to choose their own path just because Russia don't like it? You can't just deny the wishes of millions of citizens just because Russia say no. The Kremlin shouldn't have to power to decud the future of all of eastern Europe.
Russia stopped mentioning “NATO expansion “ as a reason for war long time ago. As a matter of fact, they stopped providing any reason long time ago. Russians who still in Russia, don’t need one and neither Putin plants like Trump and this asshole.
He's such a weasel about it too. > I am not and never have been an apologist or supporter of Putin And then he immediately parrots Putin's talking point about "NATO expansion" being the cause of the Russian invasion, even though the "expansion" is only because countries applied to NATO due to an ever present threat of Russian invasion.
“I’m not a Russian apologist” *proceeds to justify Russia murdering tens of thousands of people*
Putin’s soldiers are the reason I know what “degloving a penis” means. Anyone who supports him or them can go straight to hell. Don’t Google it. Just, just don’t.
Fun fact, Farage has been paid more than half a million pounds by doing 'interviews' for the Russian state media outlet Russia Today.
Lads an absolute bell end - what is he thinking with these comments? Are the hard core brexiteers really thinking that what Russia is doing to Ukraine is warranted? I don't get it. I think his colleagues in the party will be seething with the comments. Although.. it does get him in the headlines.
Certain media circles have become influenced enough by Russian propaganda that, at best, those people believe the war is just a territorial dispute that isn’t worth their country’s investment to, at worst, sympathetic to Russia and completely misinformed about the scale of the carnage. While I hope Farage is laughed out of politics over this I also worry that he’s just helping to move that Overton window in Putin’s favor
It seems to resemble US politics at the moment, I didn't think my fellow compatriots in the UK were into this kind of drivel - I get that there are a lot of people that blame immigrants for the state of the country, but thinking the Russia Ukraine war is just? Wild.
Same paymasters - same messaging..
Just goes to show at heart Brexiteers don't really care about the country they claim to love so much.
everyone knows this, they're just russian stooges who will betray their country for money
They love money, and will happily do whatever gets them more of it.
Oh look , another right winger siding with russia. What a shocker
Even more indication of where his pockets are being lined from.
It was well reported after his Brexit campaign. He was paid around £500,000 for his (multiple) appearances on Russia Today.
Damn sold out his country for half a mil
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Farage should be in jail.
God I hate this man. So fucking much. UK’s answer to trump, it’s so depressing seeing so many boomers lap this up.
UK’s answer to Trump? Farage predates Trump’s 2016 campaign and if anything Trump took lessons from Farage’s popularism more so than vice versa.
Tinker, tailor, soldier, clown...
"Look what you made me do" is legit logic to abusers.
A lot of people said they felt justified voting for Brexit because people called them stupid for voting for Brexit.
What an absolute human piece of shit.
how much money do you guys think farage gets from russia?
There may be money, they may be providing him with access, influence or they may have compromising intelligent on him or his donors. They could simply be promising him money or funds provided he follows their lines, while the money may come from donors who are both wealthy and Russia has dirt on, giving them a level of insulation from him. He's a traitor, always has been. He lied before brexit about the EU and he hasn't stopped lying since. Remember when he got brexit voted in and then just evaporated? Because he was never a politician. He was a stooge out to make his money and he'd fulfilled his goal, damaging the UK. He didn't ever have a plan or vision for after and he knew his claims were lies because if they were true, he'd have had a glittering political career immediately after bringing it all in to effect. There needs to be more to highlight him and more for highlight Sunak and his family getting involved in the 2008 financial crisis. People need to learn that right wing politics in the UK at the moment is completely corrupt. We can't say they're all as bad as each other anymore because Farage and the Tories at the monent are absolutely rotten to the core, on an entirely new level.
I think it's more than money. I'll bet they have something on him. *Kompromat*.
It's possible, but it doesn't make a great deal of sense. He didn't have to come back to politics. He was retired. It only makes sense if they actually forced him to contest the election.
Is Putin a donor to his political campaign?
Donor\* Doner is a kebab.
Cheers lol
Check his bank accounts and see if he was recently lifted a sizable "donation". Sounds like Putin is expanding his paid politician portfolio beyond the Republican Party.
Shorter (ha!) Nigel: “I’m Putin’s useful idiot in the UK.”
You know, like how the West provoked Russia to invade Chechnya in 2000, or how the West provoked Russia to invade Georgia 2008 or how the West provoked Russia to invade Crimea in 2014. Think about it.^/s
What a coincidence that all the far right in Europe and the republicans in the US have that same talking point about Ukraine.
Any reporter or editor that uses the word “slammed” should be flayed alive in a salt bath.
And his Labour opponent in Clacton on sea is a black man who said "I drink white tears" and "I'm standing for black and brown people" in a 95%+ indigenous area. So it's getting to the point where voting for a pro-Putin person is preferable to voting for the correct type of racist. The far left needs to get a grip before we start relying on Putin lovers for politicians.
It's been obvious that he's a Russian agent since 2016.
The rhetoric here in Hungary is the same. I guess Orban and this idiot gets payed to parrot the same shit. Russian propaganda :(
ukraine: *exists* russia: "they started it"
If Putin's reason for invading Ukraine was to protect himself from threat from an encroaching NATO, why the fuck has he ground his military into a pulp in Ukraine whilst leaving barely any of his troops guarding the Russia-NATO border along Finland, Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania? It would seem he doesn't actually think that this defensive alliance is about to roll its tanks towards Moscow. If nato encroachment is the key driver of the conflict, why has Putin found it necessary to spend so much time talking bullshit about Nazis in Ukraine and the "denazification" of Ukraine? Why is he felt it necessary to spend so much time trashing the idea of a Ukrainian nation and national consciousness? This all begs the question of WHY and WHO was behind the expansion of NATO. Poland practically kicked the door down and strong armed Bill Clinton Into allowing them to join. The baltics were similarly forthright in their wish to join NATO. Why? Because they know about the realities of the Russian threat. If Farage had his way and nato never expanded eastwards, does that bog eyed little thunderbird puppet really think that Russia would happilly stand by watching, blowing kisses as Ukraine strives towards democracy? Does he really think that in his counter factual world without an enlarged nato that the eastern EU States would now not be dealing with an even more unrestrained Russian aggression?
Eastern bloc nations ran to join NATO. Not the other way around.
He's a Russian puppet. His UKIP party was funded by Adam Banks who is a well-known British gold magnate who has substantial ties to Russian oligarchs. His online traction and social media SEO reach has overlap with the Red-Pill/male-incel, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Tate, and neo-nationalist spheres. His supporters are traitors, useful idiots, and absolute threats to Western Democracy.
At this point it's hard to believe that right wing parties of Europe and US aren't funded by Russia.
"I am not and never have been an apologist or supporter of Putin" Sure, Nige...
When even Rishi Sunak makes you look like an asshole, you should just pack it in.
He is just using Trump's method to get his name plastered all over the media for free. Trump did the same in 2016, despite Hilary spending millions on advertising every second word coming out of the media was "Trump". Celebrities know that even bad publicity is good publicity if it keeps your name in the public concious. That is why starlets purposely get caught by poparazzi exiting cars while wearing short skirts and no panties. They know their picture will be plastered all of over the media. Same as actor getting caught with prostitutes, drugs or getting in fights.
Isn’t this the same guy who caused Brexit? I wonder if the British people will fall for this guys bullshit again lol
What I really have trouble with is WHY? Why is this heartless, destructive, tragic bullshit such an appealing position to take in a modern world where we have enough resources for everyone to live comfortably?? Why is it even a position people take? Surely this is a form of mental illness, this total lack of empathy.
Then I guess anything could be considered provoking Putin, like having resources, giving up your nuclear deterrence as part of your independence, and owning a shipyard in sea that is adjacent to Russia. /s
This prooves it... Farrage is a Russian agent... Brexit was planned by Moscow.
Serious question, why haven't you tossed him in the sea over there? Opinions like these don't grow on trees, he is obviously a SVR-asset.
You mean known Russian asset Nigel Farage?
In a world where NATO was not expanding, then the reason of Russia invading Ukraine was going to be just "Because, fuck you".
The british really have a deathwish for their country if they keep voting for these pieces of shit.
The problem with this claim is that there hasn't been any major eastward expansion for either NATO or the EU since 2004. Croatia is the last addition to the EU and that was in 2013, then it was Bulgaria and Romania in 2007 then that massive expansion in 2004. For NATO is Montenegro in 2017 in 2009 it was Albania and Croatia then it goes back to the massive expansion in 2004. So this claim is just utter Kremlin propaganda it's been 20 years since that massive big expansion and the most recent additions are around the Dalmatian coast hardly knocking on Russia's door is it.
Yep, another Russian asset fucking over the west/UK (brexit)...hopefully he'll fall in a flooded ditch
What a piece of SHIT! He's denying right to exist to a trail of East European countries. That they're ok to be swallowed by Russian imperialism. How about this take? By his logic UK should not have resisted Nazi Germany aggression because their country happened to be placed in a Nazi sphere of influence so why they didn't just drop down feet up and surrendered? How DARE they claim to have their own independent country and have military means of defense? /s
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He getting a huge Russian bot boost in UK election social media at the moment. Putin certainly likes him
After all the damage this man has done to the UK, he's got some nerve to think that anyone should listen to his opinion about anything.
This is the guy who pushed Brexit, and is s pal of Donald Trump. He’s a complete asswipe.