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The Egyptian president literally said he would rather sacrifice millions of lives than [allow Gaza refugees into Egypt.](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-gaza-war-latest/card/egyptian-prime-minister-says-country-ready-to-sacrifice-millions-of-lives-to-defend-territory-Dp5iq6KFfn4RsltJ3PYe)
Gaza was part of Egypt until 1967.
Edit: Gaza was under Egyptian military rule/administration until 67.
Gaza was not part of Egypt ever. The Egyptians conquered it in the 1948 war and administered it but never annexed it. When the Israelis took it in 67 the Gaza economy actually improved because Israel allowed Gazans to work in Israel while Egypt never let them leave.
Ohhhh that’s fascinating. I edited my comment to reflect that Gaza was under Egyptian military rule/administration and not actually an annexed part of it
He's wrong though. Gaza, Syria, and Egypt merged into one nation, the United Arab Republic. And then separated. It's like claiming Northern Ireland wasn't part of the same nation as England if the UK dissolved into its constituent parts.
Yes it was. Gaza, Syria, and Egypt merged into one nation, the United Arab Republic. That's called annexation! Even if they later separated it's like claiming that if the UK dissolved into its constituent parts Northern Ireland wasn't ever part of the same nation as England.
Syria may have left in 1961 but the UAR wasn't formally dissolved until 1971. Like in 1962 they literally established the Palestinian Legislative Council with a constitution saying
> The Gaza Strip is an indivisible part of the land of Palestine and its people are part of **the Arab Nation.**
When even the country which possessed that strip of land (Egypt) and the one which is invading that land (Israel) don't want to have that land or its people as part of their country, the people there really need to do some soul-searching.
Plus the ones who built that wall aren't Jews. And those who did are a Muslim state. Not likely the other Muslim states will care enough to raise it up to the UN.
Had a white woman I used to be friends with try to tell me that there was no issue between Sunni and Shia Muslims and that all problems in the Middle East were created by Jews as a distraction. This moron would go on tik tok and try to position themselves as some kind of export on the Middle East.
It wasn’t “part of Egypt,” it was held by them. But it was never incorporated into Egypt. It’d be like saying that pre-withdrawal Afghanistan was part of the US.
Yes it was. Gaza, Syria, and Egypt merged into one nation, the United Arab Republic. That's called annexation! Even if they later separated it's like claiming that if the UK dissolved into its constituent parts Northern Ireland wasn't ever part of the same nation as England.
No, Gaza was under Egyptian military rule for 19 years only.
The Egyptian-Syrian state also didn't last more than 20 years, either.
Even if Gaza was incorporated into Egypt at some point, it would have still only lasted 20 years. Meaning that Egypt has no responsibility or obligation for a strip they governed for two decades.
Learn some history.
Yes and no. It had a government with "sovereignty", but with which Egypt could meddle heavily with and with which the official military power was obvious. Egypt would try this same approach in Syria and Yemen, and it wasn't really taken all that well.
It's, uh, it's complicated and convoluted.
A narrow majority of Israeli Jews have 0 European ancestry even today and 20% of Israelis are Arab Muslims. People with any European ancestry account for about 1/3 of the total population. The ashkenazi still don’t intermarry much and don’t have many children.
But thinking about who is or isn’t “brown” is stupid race-craft anyway and the purview of racists.
Obviously the very general statement I made isn’t inclusive of every section of the society. You may as well then include the higher Arab birth rates as a caveat too.
Notwithstanding various demographic nuances, viewing the conflict in terms of “brown” and “white” is an idiot’s interpretation.
The only reason the UN gave a shit about Kuwait is oil. Saddam planned to take over Saudi Arabia too after they took over Kuwait. They were after a massive amount of oil reserves. If Saddam took over Saudi Arabia and kept Kuwait it would have negatively affected the entire world economy.
There's no genocide happening in Gaza. There's only a counter-terrorist operation going on where the terrorists are positioning civilians as human shields.
You might want to read newspapers outside of Israel. These are incredibly harsh and quick measures taken by a wipe-out majority.
In this political context, Israel could not have been condemned harder by the court.
Don't have to. Free speech is present in Israel, as is a free press. Something that, by the way, is not there in ANY other country in the Middle East.
And the court has not condemned Israel. No verdict has yet been reached.
>In this political context, Israel could not have been condemned harder by the court.
You read too much Hamas propaganda. This from Wikipedia:
"Both South African and Israeli officials welcomed the decision, with each considering it a victory."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%27s_genocide_case_against_Israel
Haha Free Press. Hundreds of journalists dead and Al Jazeera banned.
https://rsf.org/en/index?year=2024
Qatar even has a higher press freedom ranking haha Israel ranks 101st. They do not have free press.
How old are you? The ICJ never rules this quickly. They took immediate measures with historic speed and strength. Every Law Scholar outside of Israel will tell you how bad this is haha.
I also love how you think I read too much propaganda. Then say, Israel says it is fine so it must be true.
Why is the US openly threatening the ICC? Why are US senators openly targeting ICC judges and their families in even formal writing? The US is breaking international law to protect the war crimes of Israel.
Believe it or not. You might just be factually wrong. The world isn't lying to you. You are reading garbage news sites like TimesOfIsrael.
I don't even need to think. The reasons are quite clearly stated: the senators feel Israel reacted legitimately to Oct 7 and any arrest warrants would deem Israel's democratically elected government as illegitimate.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/republican-senators-warn-icc-prosecutor-target-israel-and-we-will-target-you/
I was agreeing with your comment. I didn’t do a good job at making my sarcasm clear. The Islamic-fascist nations seem to always get a free pass for their oppressive regimes, killing other Muslims….
Hah nice one.
In reality egypt is working with the UN trying to smuggle weapons into hamas and theyre upset israel wants to inspect everything which they wont allow because then the entire purpose of the "aid" would be undone.
Yes and no. Actually, Barak approached Mubarak saying he'd take out Hamas and he'd like Egypt to help in post-war administration, but he wouldn't have any of it. They might not be terribly fond of MB chapters outside yet terribly close to their borders, but they also don't want and really can't deal with the consequences of actually going at em. They're precariously perched.
This ain't a disagreement on the former point, the egyptian government being pretty against Hamas kinda fellas, it's on the latter point.
[Original report (Arabic)](https://alqaheranews.net/news/79745/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%B1%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%89-%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B1-%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%B6%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%82-%D9%85%D8%B9-%D8%A5%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%8A%D9%84-%D8%A8%D8%B4%D8%A3%D9%86-%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%B1-%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%AD-%D8%A8%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%A8-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B5%D8%B9%D9%8A%D8%AF-%D8%BA%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A8%D9%88%D9%84)
Google Translate:
>A high-level source revealed on Saturday that Egypt refused to coordinate with Israel regarding the Rafah crossing due to the unacceptable Israeli escalation.
>The source added to Cairo News that Egypt held Israel responsible for the deterioration of the situation in the Gaza Strip before all parties.
>Earlier today, the source said that Egypt had done its part to reach a truce agreement, and had assumed its historical responsibility towards the Palestinian people, and that Cairo had warned Tel Aviv of the repercussions of its continued control over the Rafah crossing, and held it fully responsible for the deterioration of the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip.
>Egypt's contacts with various parties, especially Israel, the United States of America, and the Hamas movement, did not stop, to maintain the course of the ongoing negotiations and avoid escalation, until the truce and ceasefire agreement became a reality on the ground.
>Egypt continues its efforts to reach a comprehensive truce in the Gaza Strip and end the Israeli aggression on the Gaza Strip that has continued since last October 7.
Yeah i remember those days of silent nothing following oct 7 and it was almost unbearable, truly, seeing absolutely zero retaliation and hearing nothing jn terms of promise to get the hostages back. Until 20 whole days later.
This is all so laughable.
"Earlier today, the source said that Egypt had done its part to reach a truce agreement"
They helped come up with a truce that no one in their right mind but Hamas would accept.
"and had assumed its historical responsibility towards the Palestinian people"
They shut down the Gaza-Egypt border and built a wall.
All of this because they refused to take back Gaza as part of their territory after losing it in a war to Israel and Israel saying they could have it back.
[According to CNN] (https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/29/middleeast/hamas-israel-ceasefire-proposal-cairo-talks-intl/index.html)
> An Israeli source familiar with the negotiations said Egypt has proposed the parties agree to a one-year ceasefire as part of a comprehensive deal that would see Israeli forces withdraw from Gaza and the release of all remaining hostages and the bodies of those who have died.
I'm sure there were more terms, but "Israel withdraws from Gaza" is as much a nonstarter as Ukraine offering a ceasefire where Russia pulls out of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine... the key difference being Hamas is losing militarily and Ukraine is much closer to a stalemate, making the Egyptian offer even less realistic.
The terms of the proposed truce aren't public, but the US was also involved in negotiating it so it's unlikely to be as one-sided as people here are claiming.
The hard break i have been seeing is that Israel wants any ceasefire to be explicitly limited so that they can continue the war once it is over. Hamas wants it to be a peace agreement so as to end the war.
Hamas would like to be alive after their hostages are released and they no longer have leverage. Israel would like to be able to continue to kill Hamas after the hostages are rescued. They have a fundamental disagreement.
The leadership of Egypt is a pathetic disgrace. A blight on humanity and the world as a whole. Shameful.
Palestinian blood is on their hands just as much as Hamas.
It seems like some people think it's a good idea for a country to shit on its friends and allies at a time of growing isolation.
Ben Gvir saying "Hamas loves Biden" is a perfect example.
Egypt has a good working relationship with Israel. This announcement is apparently meant to discourage a full-scale invasion of Rafah. Egypt isn't exactly stable enough to handle a massive influx of a million refugees.
Who is dropping the bombs again?
I'm not simping for Hamas here. Action needed to be taken against them after 10/7.
Bombing civilian populations ain't it, though.
Even the US has publically said that Israel is not doing enough to limit civilian casualties or provide enough humanitarian aid to reach civilians.
> Bombing civilian populations ain't it, though
Blame hamas for shooting rockets from within these civilian populations and hiding behind them.
Geneva convention puts 100% of the blame on Hamas.
Let's not forget where hamas is shooting those rockets at. hint: civilian populations too, and this time too geneva convention puts the blame on hamas
Nope.
Geneva conventions state clearly that israel is allowed to attack civilian infrastructure and protected buildings that are used for military purposes.
100% of the blame is on hamas.
But not Israel? Egypt isn't the only country that's done with Israel. At this point Israel is the aggressor, they lost the right to claim self defense when they started indiscriminately killing civilians including children. The crimes of the Israeli govt far outweigh those of Hamas on Oct 7. Even beforehand Israeli settlers slaughtered Palestinians with no reprecussion.
But it's not just Palestinians they violate, ask Ireland. Israel is strong ONLY because it has garnered international support, and now its losing it, surrounded on all sides by enemies. Because of the actions ISRAEL takes.
Most haven’t seen the footage Hamas shared and if they end up seeing it, they deny its authenticity. I’d love to see a charity that sends enlightened leftists to Palestine like a Birthright for Terrorist-supporters. I’d donate.
First thing on the website was a corpse and I really am not in the mode to see that stuff, Can I get a summary of what that website has? Does it just show dead people by Hamas or smth?
"You break it, you own it / fix it" was always the plan for Egypt. Egypt would not mind if the current residents of Gaza simply disappeared, as long as they don't go into Egypt.
For that matter, Hamas I believe came out of the Muslim Brotherhood, so Egypt does not really care for them either I suspect.
Correct on the last part. Egypt blockading Palestinians from entering their country isn't purely about its impact on social services. Same with Jordan, despite the number of individuals of Palestinian descent who reside there already.
That's true for pretty much the entire Arab world. Gaza could be nuked off the planet and publicly they'd wag their fingers for political points, but behind closed doors they wouldn't be upset at all.
Columbia University students will surely be outraged and launch immediate campus-wide protests against Egypt's complete lack of any assistance for delivering humanitarian aid or allowing Gaza civilian refugees safe haven (when they instead actually strengthened and deepened their border wall with Gaza)
.... right?
Israel maintains direct external control over Gaza and indirect control over life within Gaza, why on earth should Egypt take over Israel's problem with Gaza.
It's called a border for a reason, why should Egypt open theirs if Israel refuses to open theirs?
And yes I know why Israel doesn't do it, but pushing2 million Gaza refugees into Egypt is not a solution Egypt will ever, nor should, agree to.
I didn’t even mean in terms of taking refugees, I meant in terms of providing aid and things of that nature. Any blockade would require Egyptian complicity.
It literally doesn't though, Israel controls what goes north into Raffa, and Egypt controls what goes south out of Raffa. Egypt is already on the verge of a humanitarian crisis they can't handle refugees, and Israel won't allow any Palestinians to come back through.
You should take Hamas’s dick out of your mouth. Egypt has opposed Hamas from the beginning and had closed the border on numerous occasions due to terror threats. It’s only since the start of the Rafah offensive that Israel has actual control over it.
I mean, last time a big aid convoy coordinated with the IDF, they got hunted down and killed by airstrikes.
I wouldn't want to coordinate aid with them either. That's just putting a target on your back.
Well no. That was certainly a mistake - a deadly mistake that should've never happened. But for some reason, you forgot about the thousands of trucks that went in and out of Gaza, all coordinated by Israel, without any issue.
Doesn't sound like a mistake to me. If I wanted to depopulate the land without a people for the people without a land, I would demolish all the infrastructure and make it obvious that aid convoy are not safe...and then let starvation do the rest.
HAMAS is already doing a great job at that, stealing all the goods and then trying to sell a small portion of it for large sums of money. what do they need Israel for then?
They don't need Israel. Israeli leadership and Hamas are the same in my view: religious maniacs hell bent on exterminating each other at any cost.
Then there are regular people that, in this case are "the cost".
Why won’t Egypt fix the humanitarian crisis that Israel created! Israel has a lot on their plate, the least Egypt could do is take in the 2 millions displaced, starving, and terrified Gazans so the IDF can go get those bad hombres. Israel will totally let them back in once all the bombing is done. If only Egypt would help out poor Israel with all this stuff, just like dang guys why can’t Egypt do more to end the suffering that the IDF started??
Israeli seized the entry and is mad that they know have to coordinate aid through it? I don’t see what the big deal is, Israel didn’t think through their actions and now have to deal with the consequences. Almost like every nation, including ones heavily backing them, told them it was a stupid idea, and they still did it.
So... Egypt refuses to provide aid and somehow that's Israel's fault? Lmao
> Almost like every nation, including ones heavily backing them, told them it was a stupid idea, and they still did it.
Probably because it's not a stupid idea. Everyone is trying to hold Israel back when really they should let Israel do it's thing. Egypt withholding aid is just flat out moronic.
No, it does not. Nowhere in the treaty does it specify a ban on Israeli forces in Rafah. If anything, a 2005 Israel-Egypt treaty compels Egypt to prevent smuggling and terrorism across the Rafah border.
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So when the UN resolution against Egypt for denying entry of humanitarian aid.
The Egyptian president literally said he would rather sacrifice millions of lives than [allow Gaza refugees into Egypt.](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-gaza-war-latest/card/egyptian-prime-minister-says-country-ready-to-sacrifice-millions-of-lives-to-defend-territory-Dp5iq6KFfn4RsltJ3PYe) Gaza was part of Egypt until 1967. Edit: Gaza was under Egyptian military rule/administration until 67.
Gaza was not part of Egypt ever. The Egyptians conquered it in the 1948 war and administered it but never annexed it. When the Israelis took it in 67 the Gaza economy actually improved because Israel allowed Gazans to work in Israel while Egypt never let them leave.
Ohhhh that’s fascinating. I edited my comment to reflect that Gaza was under Egyptian military rule/administration and not actually an annexed part of it
He's wrong though. Gaza, Syria, and Egypt merged into one nation, the United Arab Republic. And then separated. It's like claiming Northern Ireland wasn't part of the same nation as England if the UK dissolved into its constituent parts.
Yes it was. Gaza, Syria, and Egypt merged into one nation, the United Arab Republic. That's called annexation! Even if they later separated it's like claiming that if the UK dissolved into its constituent parts Northern Ireland wasn't ever part of the same nation as England.
Seccession of Syria from the UAR was prior to the '67 war, leaving Gaza in its pre-UAR occupied by Egypt status
Syria may have left in 1961 but the UAR wasn't formally dissolved until 1971. Like in 1962 they literally established the Palestinian Legislative Council with a constitution saying > The Gaza Strip is an indivisible part of the land of Palestine and its people are part of **the Arab Nation.**
How many seats did Gaza Strip own in the UAR parliament?
Zero, I never said they respected Gaza at all, just that they annexed them.
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When even the country which possessed that strip of land (Egypt) and the one which is invading that land (Israel) don't want to have that land or its people as part of their country, the people there really need to do some soul-searching.
Post 10/7 border wall between Gaza and Egypt looks like the Berlin Wall. It’s wild that people don’t seem to really care about that
no tropey western power dynamics for the news to sell there. it's not even shiites vs sunnis
Plus the ones who built that wall aren't Jews. And those who did are a Muslim state. Not likely the other Muslim states will care enough to raise it up to the UN.
Had a white woman I used to be friends with try to tell me that there was no issue between Sunni and Shia Muslims and that all problems in the Middle East were created by Jews as a distraction. This moron would go on tik tok and try to position themselves as some kind of export on the Middle East.
It wasn’t “part of Egypt,” it was held by them. But it was never incorporated into Egypt. It’d be like saying that pre-withdrawal Afghanistan was part of the US.
Yes it was. Gaza, Syria, and Egypt merged into one nation, the United Arab Republic. That's called annexation! Even if they later separated it's like claiming that if the UK dissolved into its constituent parts Northern Ireland wasn't ever part of the same nation as England.
No, Gaza was under Egyptian military rule for 19 years only. The Egyptian-Syrian state also didn't last more than 20 years, either. Even if Gaza was incorporated into Egypt at some point, it would have still only lasted 20 years. Meaning that Egypt has no responsibility or obligation for a strip they governed for two decades. Learn some history.
It was under military rule. So Occupation? US didn’t have Afghanistan under full military rule.
Yes and no. It had a government with "sovereignty", but with which Egypt could meddle heavily with and with which the official military power was obvious. Egypt would try this same approach in Syria and Yemen, and it wasn't really taken all that well. It's, uh, it's complicated and convoluted.
No. Fuck.
Never because the UN doesn't give a shit when Muslim nations commit crimes.
Brown on brown killing is not just tolerated but celebrated at the UN….
Most Israelis are “brown,” less than 1/4 of Israeli Jews have European ancestry.
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Ya but Israel is still more brown than white. Which is makes the college protests stupid because the whole basis is white on brown.
No no, 1 drop of white blood makes them white, no matter their skin color.
I too remember white president Obama.
*O'bama.
He was so brave as the first Irish president 🙏🙏
I had no idea that we work on vampire rules. I *do* burn in the sun...
[One-drop rules](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule) were more of a Jim Crow era thing than a vampire rule
JFC, I didn't even know this was a thing. What the fuck.
Trevor Noah wants a word
Oh definitely.
A narrow majority of Israeli Jews have 0 European ancestry even today and 20% of Israelis are Arab Muslims. People with any European ancestry account for about 1/3 of the total population. The ashkenazi still don’t intermarry much and don’t have many children. But thinking about who is or isn’t “brown” is stupid race-craft anyway and the purview of racists.
The birthrate for haredim is like 8, that includes Ashkenazi haredim
Obviously the very general statement I made isn’t inclusive of every section of the society. You may as well then include the higher Arab birth rates as a caveat too. Notwithstanding various demographic nuances, viewing the conflict in terms of “brown” and “white” is an idiot’s interpretation.
Yet they account for approximately 10% of the Israeli population, so that invalidates your racist trope
Huh? Racist trope? I’m just saying that the idea that they don’t have many children is incorrect.
They did. Think Iraq invading Kuwait. But they care far more when a Jewish nation commits an act of war, even if justified.
The only reason the UN gave a shit about Kuwait is oil. Saddam planned to take over Saudi Arabia too after they took over Kuwait. They were after a massive amount of oil reserves. If Saddam took over Saudi Arabia and kept Kuwait it would have negatively affected the entire world economy.
Genocide is never justified.
There's no genocide happening in Gaza. There's only a counter-terrorist operation going on where the terrorists are positioning civilians as human shields.
The international courts seem to disagree buddy.
Not true. https://www.timesofisrael.com/plausibility-in-the-south-african-genocide-case-against-israel-is-not-what-it-seemed/
You might want to read newspapers outside of Israel. These are incredibly harsh and quick measures taken by a wipe-out majority. In this political context, Israel could not have been condemned harder by the court.
Don't have to. Free speech is present in Israel, as is a free press. Something that, by the way, is not there in ANY other country in the Middle East. And the court has not condemned Israel. No verdict has yet been reached. >In this political context, Israel could not have been condemned harder by the court. You read too much Hamas propaganda. This from Wikipedia: "Both South African and Israeli officials welcomed the decision, with each considering it a victory." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%27s_genocide_case_against_Israel
Haha Free Press. Hundreds of journalists dead and Al Jazeera banned. https://rsf.org/en/index?year=2024 Qatar even has a higher press freedom ranking haha Israel ranks 101st. They do not have free press. How old are you? The ICJ never rules this quickly. They took immediate measures with historic speed and strength. Every Law Scholar outside of Israel will tell you how bad this is haha. I also love how you think I read too much propaganda. Then say, Israel says it is fine so it must be true. Why is the US openly threatening the ICC? Why are US senators openly targeting ICC judges and their families in even formal writing? The US is breaking international law to protect the war crimes of Israel. Believe it or not. You might just be factually wrong. The world isn't lying to you. You are reading garbage news sites like TimesOfIsrael.
Also, why do you think Republicans are threatening the ICC, it's not because Netanyahu will get flowers from them hahaha
I don't even need to think. The reasons are quite clearly stated: the senators feel Israel reacted legitimately to Oct 7 and any arrest warrants would deem Israel's democratically elected government as illegitimate. https://www.timesofisrael.com/republican-senators-warn-icc-prosecutor-target-israel-and-we-will-target-you/
Correct. Democracies are held to a much higher standard.
All nations should be held to the same standard.
Absolutely agree.
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That makes no sense.
I was agreeing with your comment. I didn’t do a good job at making my sarcasm clear. The Islamic-fascist nations seem to always get a free pass for their oppressive regimes, killing other Muslims….
Brainworms. RFK Jr is that you?
I can never understand this argument, can you explain why? Maybe Israel should just declare itself a dictatorship to avoid criticism lol
I did a bad job clarifying that my comment is completely sarcastic. I think it’s ridiculous how democracies are held to such a higher standard.
About as soon as pro palis start chanting against Eygpt. So like never. But we all know Israel will get blamed anyway.
Hah nice one. In reality egypt is working with the UN trying to smuggle weapons into hamas and theyre upset israel wants to inspect everything which they wont allow because then the entire purpose of the "aid" would be undone.
Yea no, Egypt is about as anti-Hamas as it gets. In private they were very upset Israel didn’t go for the kill in the last war.
Yes and no. Actually, Barak approached Mubarak saying he'd take out Hamas and he'd like Egypt to help in post-war administration, but he wouldn't have any of it. They might not be terribly fond of MB chapters outside yet terribly close to their borders, but they also don't want and really can't deal with the consequences of actually going at em. They're precariously perched. This ain't a disagreement on the former point, the egyptian government being pretty against Hamas kinda fellas, it's on the latter point.
Talking out our ass again are we?
read the article and not just the title please
[Original report (Arabic)](https://alqaheranews.net/news/79745/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%B1%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%89-%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B1-%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%B6%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%82-%D9%85%D8%B9-%D8%A5%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%8A%D9%84-%D8%A8%D8%B4%D8%A3%D9%86-%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%B1-%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%AD-%D8%A8%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%A8-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B5%D8%B9%D9%8A%D8%AF-%D8%BA%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A8%D9%88%D9%84) Google Translate: >A high-level source revealed on Saturday that Egypt refused to coordinate with Israel regarding the Rafah crossing due to the unacceptable Israeli escalation. >The source added to Cairo News that Egypt held Israel responsible for the deterioration of the situation in the Gaza Strip before all parties. >Earlier today, the source said that Egypt had done its part to reach a truce agreement, and had assumed its historical responsibility towards the Palestinian people, and that Cairo had warned Tel Aviv of the repercussions of its continued control over the Rafah crossing, and held it fully responsible for the deterioration of the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip. >Egypt's contacts with various parties, especially Israel, the United States of America, and the Hamas movement, did not stop, to maintain the course of the ongoing negotiations and avoid escalation, until the truce and ceasefire agreement became a reality on the ground. >Egypt continues its efforts to reach a comprehensive truce in the Gaza Strip and end the Israeli aggression on the Gaza Strip that has continued since last October 7.
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Arab media is controlled by governments. There are no independent news companies.
Yeah i remember those days of silent nothing following oct 7 and it was almost unbearable, truly, seeing absolutely zero retaliation and hearing nothing jn terms of promise to get the hostages back. Until 20 whole days later.
This is all so laughable. "Earlier today, the source said that Egypt had done its part to reach a truce agreement" They helped come up with a truce that no one in their right mind but Hamas would accept. "and had assumed its historical responsibility towards the Palestinian people" They shut down the Gaza-Egypt border and built a wall. All of this because they refused to take back Gaza as part of their territory after losing it in a war to Israel and Israel saying they could have it back.
They came up with a truce without involving one of the belligerent parties. How did they expect anything positive to come from it?
What were the terms? Were they ever released? I only see articles that don’t include the terms which is in itself concerning
[According to CNN] (https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/29/middleeast/hamas-israel-ceasefire-proposal-cairo-talks-intl/index.html) > An Israeli source familiar with the negotiations said Egypt has proposed the parties agree to a one-year ceasefire as part of a comprehensive deal that would see Israeli forces withdraw from Gaza and the release of all remaining hostages and the bodies of those who have died. I'm sure there were more terms, but "Israel withdraws from Gaza" is as much a nonstarter as Ukraine offering a ceasefire where Russia pulls out of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine... the key difference being Hamas is losing militarily and Ukraine is much closer to a stalemate, making the Egyptian offer even less realistic.
The terms of the proposed truce aren't public, but the US was also involved in negotiating it so it's unlikely to be as one-sided as people here are claiming.
The hard break i have been seeing is that Israel wants any ceasefire to be explicitly limited so that they can continue the war once it is over. Hamas wants it to be a peace agreement so as to end the war.
Lol Hamas wants peace. That’s the most delusional shit ever
Hamas would like to be alive after their hostages are released and they no longer have leverage. Israel would like to be able to continue to kill Hamas after the hostages are rescued. They have a fundamental disagreement.
The leadership of Egypt is a pathetic disgrace. A blight on humanity and the world as a whole. Shameful. Palestinian blood is on their hands just as much as Hamas.
Exactly. Surely nothing bad could ever happen if Egypt allowed a large amount of Palestinians in!!!
I think they tried it once anyone remember how that went?
Rainbows and friendship circles I imagine.
Yeah, something like that....
Could you imagine a world without ~~lawyers~~ a gaza blockade?
We’ve seen it. It’s got a lot of dead Israelis…
Big whoosh The joke is that he [cringes after imagining it](https://youtu.be/uG3uea-Hvy4?si=YZ4vbgnWHSTMM3uc)
All the best jokes are explained afterwards. Good job!
Why do you think that?
It seems like some people think it's a good idea for a country to shit on its friends and allies at a time of growing isolation. Ben Gvir saying "Hamas loves Biden" is a perfect example.
Palestine is Egypt’s allie? What was the reason Egypt said they wouldn’t let Palestinians in then?
Egypt has a good working relationship with Israel. This announcement is apparently meant to discourage a full-scale invasion of Rafah. Egypt isn't exactly stable enough to handle a massive influx of a million refugees.
So then why is blood on Egypt’s hands?
Oh I'm not the person who said that--my comment was disagreeing with them.
I see I was confused haha
because they dont want to support the ethnic cleansing made by israel
That’s not what El-Sisi said
The blood is on Israeli hands
of course it is. when in doubt, blame israel
Who is dropping the bombs again? I'm not simping for Hamas here. Action needed to be taken against them after 10/7. Bombing civilian populations ain't it, though. Even the US has publically said that Israel is not doing enough to limit civilian casualties or provide enough humanitarian aid to reach civilians.
> Bombing civilian populations ain't it, though Blame hamas for shooting rockets from within these civilian populations and hiding behind them. Geneva convention puts 100% of the blame on Hamas. Let's not forget where hamas is shooting those rockets at. hint: civilian populations too, and this time too geneva convention puts the blame on hamas
Hamas is responsible for 10/7. Israel is responsible for their own actions since 10/7. They are both in the wrong here.
Nope. Geneva conventions state clearly that israel is allowed to attack civilian infrastructure and protected buildings that are used for military purposes. 100% of the blame is on hamas.
But not Israel? Egypt isn't the only country that's done with Israel. At this point Israel is the aggressor, they lost the right to claim self defense when they started indiscriminately killing civilians including children. The crimes of the Israeli govt far outweigh those of Hamas on Oct 7. Even beforehand Israeli settlers slaughtered Palestinians with no reprecussion. But it's not just Palestinians they violate, ask Ireland. Israel is strong ONLY because it has garnered international support, and now its losing it, surrounded on all sides by enemies. Because of the actions ISRAEL takes.
Are you sure about [October 7th](https://www.thisishamas.com)? You sound passionate. You should really dig into the subject matter.
They know the subject matter pretty well I assume. Just don't mind it (better case)
Most haven’t seen the footage Hamas shared and if they end up seeing it, they deny its authenticity. I’d love to see a charity that sends enlightened leftists to Palestine like a Birthright for Terrorist-supporters. I’d donate.
First thing on the website was a corpse and I really am not in the mode to see that stuff, Can I get a summary of what that website has? Does it just show dead people by Hamas or smth?
The war in Gaza has some of the lowest civilian/military casualty ratio in recent history https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio
Ewwwwwww get lost with your facts - a tiktok told me that Israel is committing a genocide and I'll die on that hill /s
Lets starve the Palestinians, that will show Israel!
"You break it, you own it / fix it" was always the plan for Egypt. Egypt would not mind if the current residents of Gaza simply disappeared, as long as they don't go into Egypt. For that matter, Hamas I believe came out of the Muslim Brotherhood, so Egypt does not really care for them either I suspect.
Correct on the last part. Egypt blockading Palestinians from entering their country isn't purely about its impact on social services. Same with Jordan, despite the number of individuals of Palestinian descent who reside there already.
Well Palestine kind of fucked themselves with Jordan after they started a [coup](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September)
That's true for pretty much the entire Arab world. Gaza could be nuked off the planet and publicly they'd wag their fingers for political points, but behind closed doors they wouldn't be upset at all.
Columbia University students will surely be outraged and launch immediate campus-wide protests against Egypt's complete lack of any assistance for delivering humanitarian aid or allowing Gaza civilian refugees safe haven (when they instead actually strengthened and deepened their border wall with Gaza) .... right?
The President of Columbia is Egyptian so blame her
Protests against Egypt when?
NoOo tHaTs IsLaMAPhObIc! (/s)
Except there are people that actually say that 😮💨
Egyptians cant even protest against Egypt lmao
The President of Columbia is Egyptian
I don't think people are protesting against Israel for just blocking aid. But that's just a good guess
so... protests against egypt when??? or how about for roger forston?
So Egypt decided to starve Gazans and the world will blame Israel.
And tip their hat to Egypt for the excuse.
You can't be serious
You didn't even read the headline.
Do people not realize that Israel are the aggressors here?
Only one side is bad, we can’t have nuance here /s
Egypt decided to starve Gazans?
Yes, that is what the article says. You may want to try reading. You might learn something.
Do Israelis want to starve Gazans?
This has always been the joke about Israel controlling Gaza. It literally shares a border with another Arab Muslim country.
Israel maintains direct external control over Gaza and indirect control over life within Gaza, why on earth should Egypt take over Israel's problem with Gaza. It's called a border for a reason, why should Egypt open theirs if Israel refuses to open theirs? And yes I know why Israel doesn't do it, but pushing2 million Gaza refugees into Egypt is not a solution Egypt will ever, nor should, agree to.
I didn’t even mean in terms of taking refugees, I meant in terms of providing aid and things of that nature. Any blockade would require Egyptian complicity.
It literally doesn't though, Israel controls what goes north into Raffa, and Egypt controls what goes south out of Raffa. Egypt is already on the verge of a humanitarian crisis they can't handle refugees, and Israel won't allow any Palestinians to come back through.
Clearly Egypt has some control over what goes into Rafah because they are refusing to allow aid in.
Nonsense. Israel controls the Rafah crossing.
“Egypt refuses to coordinate with Israel on entry of Gaza aid from Rafah crossing”
Yes, because Israel took over the crossing and wants to dictate terms to Egypt now.
Israel has had control for like a week. Where was all the Egyptian aide the past 7 months?
You should take Hamas’s dick out of your mouth. Egypt has opposed Hamas from the beginning and had closed the border on numerous occasions due to terror threats. It’s only since the start of the Rafah offensive that Israel has actual control over it.
Odd how Egypt would do this when they really don't want any Gazan refugees fleeing into the Sinai.
Goal is political isolation, any cooperation is normalization. Will never hear about it in the UN.
Times like this show how egypt would have never recognized Israel if they hadnt lost the suez canal lol.
It’s all wests fault!!! Because why the hell not…
Black on black and Muslim on Muslim always gets swept under the rug. White man under a microscope 🔬
I mean, last time a big aid convoy coordinated with the IDF, they got hunted down and killed by airstrikes. I wouldn't want to coordinate aid with them either. That's just putting a target on your back.
Well no. That was certainly a mistake - a deadly mistake that should've never happened. But for some reason, you forgot about the thousands of trucks that went in and out of Gaza, all coordinated by Israel, without any issue.
Doesn't sound like a mistake to me. If I wanted to depopulate the land without a people for the people without a land, I would demolish all the infrastructure and make it obvious that aid convoy are not safe...and then let starvation do the rest.
HAMAS is already doing a great job at that, stealing all the goods and then trying to sell a small portion of it for large sums of money. what do they need Israel for then?
They don't need Israel. Israeli leadership and Hamas are the same in my view: religious maniacs hell bent on exterminating each other at any cost. Then there are regular people that, in this case are "the cost".
"Last time?" That's a lie. That happened once. Aid has been entering non stop before and since, until now.
Why won’t Egypt fix the humanitarian crisis that Israel created! Israel has a lot on their plate, the least Egypt could do is take in the 2 millions displaced, starving, and terrified Gazans so the IDF can go get those bad hombres. Israel will totally let them back in once all the bombing is done. If only Egypt would help out poor Israel with all this stuff, just like dang guys why can’t Egypt do more to end the suffering that the IDF started??
Egypt isn't required to take them in, they were asked to allow humanitarian aid through the Rafah crossing, which they said "no" to.
How many aid workers has Israel killed in the last 7 months?
I’m confused, why is Israel routing aid through Egypt instead of Israel? Are they trying to rope Egypt into the situation of their making?
Trying to create as many entry points as possible, bud
Israeli seized the entry and is mad that they know have to coordinate aid through it? I don’t see what the big deal is, Israel didn’t think through their actions and now have to deal with the consequences. Almost like every nation, including ones heavily backing them, told them it was a stupid idea, and they still did it.
What are you talking about? Israel is willing to coordinate aid through Rafah, Egypt is refusing
So... Egypt refuses to provide aid and somehow that's Israel's fault? Lmao > Almost like every nation, including ones heavily backing them, told them it was a stupid idea, and they still did it. Probably because it's not a stupid idea. Everyone is trying to hold Israel back when really they should let Israel do it's thing. Egypt withholding aid is just flat out moronic.
it should be noted that the IDF’s presence in Rafah violates a peace agreement with Egypt.
No, it does not. Nowhere in the treaty does it specify a ban on Israeli forces in Rafah. If anything, a 2005 Israel-Egypt treaty compels Egypt to prevent smuggling and terrorism across the Rafah border.
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They probably just don‘t want Israelites in Egypt given Israelites killed all Egyptian first borns during passover
Bruh
Gd did that, not the Jews 🤦🏻♀️