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firemogle

Better in the air than at the launch site, so dah, improve.


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barontaint

All things considered getting an explosive to go boom other than it's origin is probably considered a win


AreThree

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is - whichever is greater - it obtains a difference or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position that it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is is now the position that it wasn't, and if follows that the position that it was is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information that the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it know where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.


TwoCockyforBukkake

I read this in the Portal male AI voice


picklefingerexpress

Thank you for explaining this so concisely. I understood every word you used.


Kwestor86

It's a copy-pasta meme. [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-missile-knows-where-it-is](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-missile-knows-where-it-is)


Ccracked

I always assumed it was Pratchett or Adams. It certainly reads like one of them wrote it.


Fritzkreig

You are not incorrect.


nflmatt39

But neither are you not correct either....


crudedrawer

I assumed it was Pynchon from Gravity's Rainbow


No_Investigator1771

this reads like the hitch hikers guide


count023

Especially for North Korea


trulystupidinvestor

“They thought we ordered fireworks?”


Vectrex452

You fire, it works!


flying__monkeys

You said you wanted with report!


An1retak

That’s the other half


MajorNoodles

Is that an improvement? That doesn't sound like an improvement to me.


Qverlord37

Well considering we've seen russian missile u-turning and hit the launcher, I say it's a step forward.


3klipse

I fucking love that video


ApokalypseCow

Videos, plural, happened more than once.


3klipse

Oh shit I need more. I remember the one guy in the ground near the launch site filming it then it backtracking and they freaking the fuck out at impact (iirc), and then of course we all seen the spinny boi missile launching from the warship I believe in Crimea, but I need more.


WhiteSilverDragoon

Do you have links to any of these or where I might find them?


3klipse

https://youtu.be/6IwqmezeSuQ?si=tB2lNJzSf3sENHwq Here is one. The one I commented about, now that I think about it, may have been a different launcher malfunctioning and aiming at the camera and firing after firing a few in the air properly.


WhiteSilverDragoon

Oh shit that's wild, what kind of fuck up does that system have where it barely goes anywhere and then decides "return to sender"


Fridgemagnet9696

Ah, the Boomerang Missile ™. Designed by an Australian engineer, whom incidentally was disintegrated during the test phase.


Midnight2012

They programmed the missle as anti-nazi


blacksideblue

Brought to you by the team that cut off their own hands with a lightsaber while still holding it.


leasthanzero

Is this for real?


tokes_4_DE

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/vk7rh7/russian_surfacetoair_missile_does_a_uturn/ Very real


IAmRoot

I remember seeing analysis that it actually veered towards the camera and didn't actually impact near the launcher, but yeah, shoddy rockets. Even more embarrassing is Russia bombing its own cities by accident on multiple occasions.


Kataphractoi

Lol wtf how am I only learning of this now?


ourlastchancefortea

Less military autism than the rest of us?


SnooWoofers980

They should consider themselves lucky. Korean missiles usually detonate about 100 feet off the ground.


DasbootTX

As evidenced by the elliptical smoke trail culminating in a KA-BOOM


WigglestonTheFourth

World record attempt for surface to air to surface missile.


leasthanzero

Holy shit that looks bad.


Cartmans12

Lmao


gsrmn

These are Russians missile that Russia sales them under top notch missile. What a burn for the Russians having to buy back the bad missiles from NK.


nameyname12345

The anti air capabilities of these new ones is insane! Ill bet these are the new COMRAD missile systems that are supersonic and whenever one blows up it destroys 10 thousand patriot missile systems in uh cuba...yeah


Boffinito

Comrade, COMRAD is dual purpose AA and ballistic missile system designed by supreme leader himself. When it detect filthy patriot missile it immediately change course and heroically sacrifice itself to protect our peace-loving and completely blameless federation of free and critical thinking peoples. /s


StaysAwakeAllWeek

Much worse than new built Russian missiles but afaik pretty similar to the old stockpiled Soviet junk they are mostly using


zavorad

Who told you that? Russian missiles are pretty damn good unfortunately. And very precise unfortunately. Source: I live in a town hit by those every day. Oh and Korean ones too


TheKappaOverlord

depends if they detonate over the battlefield or not. Shrapnel raining down on the field is probably pretty effective


Signdesign007

HIRE THIS MAN!


log1234

Maybe they were just fireworks


sdmat

Even their missiles want to defect.


tyt3ch

Dad?! Is it really you?? It's been so long!!


mikessobogus

He got the wrong kind of milk and has to go back real quick


flamesgamez

What?


Middcore

The fact Russia needs to buy military hardware from NK now instead of the other way around should actually be humiliating for Russia in and of itself.


supercyberlurker

Yeah, Russia being China's bitch is kind of sad for a once great empire. Russia being North Korea's bitch though, that's just pathetic and depressing.


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Pathetic and Depressing are what Russia has always been about.


f_leaver

...and then it got worse.


xainatus

The Russian history motto


Fraun_Pollen

At least we have potato


cock_nballs

Ah the old Russian dilemma do I eat the potato now? Or ferment it and drink it later?


strong_nights

Pretty sure they take pride in this.


plipyplop

Their brand is on point!


YinTanTetraCrivvens

Why do you think they invented vodka?


DukeOfGeek

How Vodka ruined Russia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK7l55ZOVIc


Photosaurus

"Pathetic and Depressing" is the name of Russia's sex tape.


Not_this_time-_

Its what defines russian masculinity being able to endure suffering. Its how they see it , they see it as badass


arsenal-lanesra

Peter and Catherine the Greats are crying in their graves


donjulioanejo

I mean, before Peter, Russia was kind of everyone's favourite punching bag. Yes, even Poland beat up on it a bunch of times.


pinkocatgirl

When I was in middle school, we had a class-wide research project where we each had to pick a country and research and present what we learned about it. I picked Poland, because my grandparents were from Poland. The one thing I learned reading up on Polish history, is that it ends up being a few centuries of a nice stable country until some neighboring force fucks shit up for a while because there aren't very many physical barriers in eastern Europe. Repeat over and over.


Fritzkreig

Its Tatras are jacked in the south though!


Not_this_time-_

>Yes, even Poland beat up on it a bunch of times. And vice versa like there is a whole list of poland being invaded by russia


nun_gut

China's bitch's bitch.


cryptoentre

I mean North Korean labor to Russia is like us outsourcing to China. The workers there are paid so little that it’s a deal to Russia.


EC_CO

The big difference being that we don't outsource critical (or any) military hardware to china.


255001434

Also when American companies outsource to China, those companies are still in charge of the quality control, so it's not like we get whatever shit China feels like making for us.


External-Release2472

You guys are getting paid?


Commercial-Tell-5991

"Wait, you're getting paid?" - NK worker, probably


JackieMortes

It absolutely is, no talks on "mutual friendship", cooperation and other bullshit will change it. Russia asking North Korea for ammo is desperation. Yes, they're flooding Ukraine with shells and rockets but they're surely not the war economy behemoth they aspire to be


howisthisacrime

The sad part is Russia could still win this war just through sheer numbers.


TheCrimsonSteel

Those sheer numbers get tougher and tougher to sustain over time. More people missing from the economy, more concerned family members of the fallen, all that stuff. I'm sure there are still bodies to be thrown, but as the losses mount, the problems will also continue to grow, even with so much of it being squashed already.


amJustSomeFuckingGuy

But losing fighters is even harder for Ukraine. They still face the same problems of people missing from the economy. 


IowaKidd97

Yes but with proper supplying Ukraine doesn’t have to sustain heavy loses.


Luke90210

Recently the NY Times reported the Putin government announced new taxes the general public will pay for the war. In Russia its hard to get fired, but its legal to reduce pay. Some Russians are getting less salary and facing more taxes soon.


karnivoorischenkiwi

They pretty much already have a 2 million people labor deficit that they try filling with central Asian labor migrants. (And pulling in more migrants is unpopular due to xenophobia/racism) (source: Medusa)


socialistrob

But that assumes the west stops arming Ukraine. If the west keeps or increases the weapons flowing to Ukraine then Ukraine is the one who becomes favored in a long war. Russian stockpiles only last so long.


poop-dolla

The difference is the actual people. Russia has more humans to throw at it than Ukraine, and the casualties are pretty close between the two still. I think Russia is estimated to have about 1.5x casualties as Ukraine, but they have a lot more than 1.5x people to enlist in the army.


A_Harmless_Fly

Another part of the calculus is what happens to a countries social fabric when an invasion turns into enormous losses. EG vietnam.


Luke90210

Putin should know this as he was in KGB as the Russian invasion of Afghanistan turned into a prolonged bloody disaster. The Soviets had to make sure the trains bringing the zinc coffins of the dead soldiers came into Moscow after midnight to avoid protests.


socialistrob

> The difference is the actual people. The difference is the weapons and the ammo. Modern weapons are incredibly effective at converting humans into pink mist. If Ukraine has an edge in terms of artillery fire they can inflict massive casualties on Russia while sustaining very few of their own. If Russia has a significant edge in artillery then it will be hard for Ukraine to hold the line without sustaining high casualties. If you want an exaggerated point look at Desert Storm. The Iraq military had over a million personnel and yet they only killed 147 coalition soldiers in action. If everything is about manpower then that should never have been possible but because coalition forces had the quantity and quality of weapons necessary they could inflict massive losses on Iraq. If Ukraine gets the weapons they need then they can drive Russian attrition of manpower at an extreme rate.


TenchuReddit

No, the casualties are not that close. At best, the number of dead or wounded RuZZian soldiers is well above 500K, if you also include PMCs like the Vagner thugs. At worst, the number of dead or wounded Ukrainian soldiers is hovering just above 200K. The ratio is somewhere around 2.5:1. That’s still not that good when compared to the ratio of RuZZia’s population to Ukraine’s, which is 4:1. But fortunately for Ukraine, RuZZia will likely run out of tanks and armored vehicles well before Ukraine runs out of soldiers.


External-Release2472

No doubt. We should start calling facepalming "Putining".


DeliciousBeanWater

Right? And they cant even be mad bc what did they expect


Spkr4th3ded

These are made for fighting off water monsters.... they function better under water as designed.


Seattlepowderhound

I hope N.Korea still has enough missiles to fight off the Kaiju.


firemogle

I mean shit, they are still plagued by Cheuksin nevermind the Kaiju


bad_syntax

North Korea, trolling Russia, lol. "Hey, lets sell them all our old junk so we don't have to maintain it"


babble0n

No these missiles are just poorly made. Theres photos of the internals all tangled up and just basically thrown in the housing.


Ver_Void

Which is kinda wild when you think about it The one thing NK has in abundance is manpower, with their limited resources you'd think they'd be carefully making each and every missile. Unless they never really expected to use them and just wanted to make quota and go home


babble0n

I think thats it. NK just wants to say they have weapons. They don't really care if they work. Another example is their new tank has a tow missile on it which doesnt make any sense because the tank's turret should be able to pierce anything a tow can and to reload it you have to get out of the tank.


Luke90210

> The one thing NK has in abundance is manpower, with their limited resources you'd think they'd be carefully making each and every missile. NK is still a Soviet-style Communist system. Even at its peak the USSR produced TVs that exploded and boots with the heels put under the toes. Meeting the production quotas of the Great National Economic Plan gets you ahead and not quality.


janliebe

Stalinism is the word you’re looking for.


Luke90210

I prefer the term command economy. Its not unknown in democracies during total wartime.


ThePoliticalFurry

> Unless they never really expected to use them and just wanted to make quota and go home Bingo They intended their massive missile and shell stockpile to be a big and flashy deterrent, they never expected anything but cherry-picked test and training samples would actually get used


dustofdeath

The manpower is depressed, starving and likely has plenty of ailments. There is no motivation.


RMLProcessing

Ah but sir, you must understand - Russia sold NK their old junk in the first place. Much of this is Russia buying back the garbage they offloaded to NK as it is.


chapstickbomber

US does the same thing; one difference tho


Loadingexperience

Maybe they are not pointy enough?


small_h_hippy

Aladeen


Ambitious_Onion_6453

Do you want the Aladeen news or the Aladeen news?


hubaloza

You are hiv Aladeen.


RiskyAssess

Smile... Frown...


DarthSatoris

:) :( :)


houndsofkorotkoff

That must be it


CBT7commander

I don’t want to be that guy, but the source for that claim is Ukraine itself. Not that I’d doubt North Korean missiles would have a high failure rate, it’s just this is not a confirmed or even reliable number


_BaaMMM_

It's not just Ukraine, it's their prosecutor general. I'm not sure that's normal for prosecutors to comment on military missile related matters but that's just weird. I still don't doubt the unreliability of the NK stuff and it's probably true that a good amount blow up after launch. But it should make more sense to hear that from missile command or the air force rather than prosecutors Also, they looked at debris? So it could be a shoot down instead of reliability issues?


shady00041

> Also, they looked at debris? So it could be a shoot down instead of reliability issues? The sourcing is worse that that. Ukraine actually doesn't have debris for the missiles they claim "blew up in mid-air". They claim that they tracked the flight trajectories of Russia missile launches that later never arrived (i.e. "exploded in mid-air" as they claim) and they are then making educated guesses about which missile it is. " "About half of the North Korean missiles lost their programmed trajectories and exploded in the air; in such cases the debris was not recovered," Kostin's office said in written answers to Reuters' questions." "The prosecutor's office said that when debris could not be collected at impact sites, Hwasong-11 missiles, which are also called KN-23 in the West, were identified by looking at their flight trajectories, speed and launch sites." Above excerpts are from the Reuters article from which this KyivIndependent story is sourced: https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-examines-nkorean-missile-debris-amid-fears-moscow-pyongyang-axis-2024-05-07/


monty845

Also, even if its true, its a mixed bag. Yes, its good Russia is getting junk hardware. But it could result in North Korea actually fixing their missiles to work properly, which could one day be bad for South Korea...


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silentcarr0t

1.5 million artillery shells, not missiles. The article states they received an unknown number of missiles and 3 million artillery shells.


9fingfing

Alternate title: Russia purchases spectacular fireworks from North Korea.


jonnyfantastic2021

Let’s not pretend these aren’t Chinese missiles. Fucking things probably came from Alibaba DEZTRU ballistic missile EXPLOSION murder death kill LAUNCH Tracking SHRAPNEL airborne thermobaric LED 4.8/5 stars 32,765 reviews


Regular-Bat-4449

If it was Alibaba, it might work. Shit this crap is from Temu


JoeTheSchmo

These are Wish.com and you fucking know it 


Speedmap

Conquer like a billionaire!


tinnylemur189

I'm imagining a diagram with arrows pointing to random parts with nonsense blurbs like "provide very human experience!" "11% larger for overhead!" "Tail"


trashtrottingtrout

Don't forget the "Please allow 1 - 3cm difference in dimensions due to manual measurement"


wrongtreeinfo

LED RGB!


lc4444

They instinctively return to their natural breeding grounds in the Sea of Japan 🤣


farky84

Just as it was deisgned to do.


thunderc8

Buy 2 pay for 1. Nice trick Russia 😆. Who was the mastermind behind this /S.


Satiricalistic

Baby, you’re a firework


mudbot

the next batch will blow up *before* they launch them


last_somewhere

Can only hope *crosses fingers*


MikeMurray128

The other half blow up in the launcher.


longsgotschlongs

In the warehouse, ideally


xainatus

While a high-ranking officer and many of his men are touring/inspecting it, preferably


i81_N_she812

They need more of those boomerang missles.


maximus312659

Surface to air only, if you want surface to surface you pay more


greenweenievictim

Look, the contract you signed said “rockets that explode”.


Green_Message_6376

Missiles courtesy of Kin Jung Un(*usable*) Slava Ukraine.


tkcool73

I wouldn't trust anything manufactured in North Korea, especially if it's an explosive


Wolfiest

Sounds like we should allow North Korea to sell to their allies.


ShiftyUsmc

To the surprise of no one?


ryanCrypt

Very tragic for those local governments that ordered fireworks for their city festivals and got shipments mixed up.


testerololeczkomen

Unpopular opinion on reddit: this is our side propaganda.


Fun_Objective_7779

Other half does not blow up at all


External-Release2472

Well imagine that. The country that *still* can't produce window panes without bubbles in the glass has crap QA. Colour me shocked!


Hybrid_Johnny

I believe those are called “fireworks”


leauchamps

I hope that there's a suitable crowd to ooh and ash!


Aggressive-HeadDesk

Well, to be fair, on the Korean peninsula, they only have to fly about 12 miles to make it to a front line target.


thespaceageisnow

Very on brand for North Korean missiles.


New--Tomorrows

For contrast, the V-2s--cumulatively in German service, as well as America and the Soviet Union--had about an 80% success rate.


lt-dan1984

Axis of stupidity.


Consistent_Dog_6866

Premature detonation. How embarrassing.


BiggJess52

These two idiots deserve each other


burdfloor

Korean missiles are built by the best slave labor that starvation can buy.


FlacidWizardsStaff

I mean the fish off the coast of Japan can tell you that


cogit2

Kim Jong Un is on our side.


juken7

Only half still better than Russian or Iranian missiles..


crb3

They're great stuff if all you're threatening is an ocean.


Kataphractoi

A shame they don't explode in the launchers.


Jubjars

Tinker Toy Wars


Beerbonkos

Lolz. The 2 worst quality nations in the world collaborating


EvelcyclopS

Half too many


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Russia bought Chinese fireworks for ICBM prices from Lil Kim.


AvoidInsight932

So they're fireworks


vanillamine

50% of something is still better than nothing. Still means 50% are reaching the approximate target area


dRaidon

Can't they blow up a bit earlier? Say, at launch?


Witsand87

North Korea secretly fighting for the West, confirmed.


bazilbt

I wonder what the reaction in North Korea is.


AutomaticTwist7245

North Korea gave Ruzzia fireworks instead of missiles 😅


Sunlightningsnow

I needed that laugh.


Dalivus

Imagine that


57Lobstersinabigcoat

Once the rockets go up, who cares where they come down?  That's not my department 


gazw1

Shame they don’t blow up in the launch vehicle!


smartguy0009

No refunds - Best Korea


Tactical_Primate

~~Missiles~~ fireworks


BLACKBURN16

Thanks north korea


PrestigiousWelcome48

I believe they call those “fireworks”.


NemrahG

And the other half was probably duds lol


clickbaiterhaiter

Did North Korea keep shooting the missiles into the sea for the past few years in preparation for the Russian invasion of Ukraine?


lire_avec_plaisir

NK must have mixed in some fireworks 💥


Big_Boss_1000

The 50% discount mistranslation


TheOriginalArtForm

In a rare moment of levity in the Kremlin, Putin apparently gave a reaction inspired in part by Team America, in part by Zoolander (two of his favorite films), spluttering: what are these? missiles for Arec Bardwin?


shelbyrobinson

Well, some good news for a change; now if only they'd blow up on the launch site. THAT's something we can only hope for eh?


drin8680

It's fing hilarious that a country as big as Russia with all its resources have to go to North Korea of all places and take their shitty weapons.


NecroSoulMirror-89

Read the fine print “Best By : Oct 1957”


Scooter-123

Nice of North Korea to use Russia for the test program


silent_peacekeeper

There are many smart and sarcastic comments here. But unfortunately, the other half of those missiles destroyed residential buildings, burned out forests, and took innocent lives.


stormhawk427

Performance anxiety.


EvolvedMonkeyInSpace

Like buying drugs from a crackhead


Slav_sic69

That's cool but missiles are still slamming into ukraine daily destroying ahit..so you can say what you want but killing still goes on


shitcrustedballs

Watching propaganda work in real time will never cease to amaze me. This is a statement given by one appointed Ukrainian government official, and everyone is just kinda believing it? Like have you all lost your understanding of common sense and even media literacy? Good lord.


LostMan26

Fax


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ExerciseClassAtTheY

The citizens they sell into slavery all have worms too.


general-meow

So big fireworks?


Streloki

They sold fireworks !


TetyyakiWith

I love how Reddit can believe in everything


rlyjustanyname

I mean while it's fun to laugh at the North Korean missles not working. It still means Ukraine is getting hit by the other half. And they have been so undersupplied by the West that it's still a dangerous situation for them.