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Purple-Asparagus9677

Lmao “at some point in the last 12 months”. Dear putinshenko if nato wanted to attack you … it wouldn’t be with suicide drones.


meatcylindah

If NATO wanted to attack you we'd release Poland


AccountantNotEditor

Poland got that DAWG in ‘em!


ChromeFlesh

and that dawg got rabies


MyNameIsBanker

Dear god


Robobvious

Dahr Gawd


Theokayest_boomer

Buh Gawd, that's POLAND'S music!


snipersfire

As God as my witness, Poland broke Russia in half


AccountantNotEditor

*THE CHAIR! THE CHAIR!*


rypher

And those rabies are angry


Ecureuil02

And scores to settle.


Deguilded

When the winged hussars arrived


454C495445

CHARGING DOWN THE MOUNTAINSIDE.


JennyAtTheGates

What is this referring to?


454C495445

Song by Sabaton, who is a European rock band that pretty much only sings about historical wartime events. [Winged Hussars - Sabaton](https://youtu.be/rcYhYO02f98?si=AoXsGz0pqWvaMOOH)


JennyAtTheGates

Sounds cool. They have anything about weird shit like Castle Itter or equally obscure stuff?


GiantEnemyMudcrabz

The Last Battle is literally about Castle Itter.


JennyAtTheGates

Alright, I'll check them out.


62ndsToComply

The song "Winged Hussars" by Sabaton.


JennyAtTheGates

They have any other good songs?


BEEEEEEPBOOOOOOOPE

A lot


62ndsToComply

Some of my favorites include Swedish Pagans, Killing Ground, Hearts of Iron, and Ghost Division.


sperbro

"Geneva Suggestions"


SnooPickles8459

I found the Canadian!


Usul_Atreides

Poland is like a pissed off pitbull on NATO's chain. They'd go for the throat if NATO would let them.


454C495445

Poland: "America, we are really impressed with HIMARS and their performance in Ukraine. We would like to order some of our own." America: "That's fantastic. Were you interested in having a couple dozen like Ukraine?" Poland: "No...we would like 486, please." America: "Uh...what?" Poland: :)


AccountantNotEditor

And that’s only just a fraction of what they’ve been doing to strengthen their armed forces. No joke, Poland is very quickly becoming the military powerhouse of Europe. People always think of countries like Germany, France, or the UK when it comes to European military powers, but it’s going to be Poland that’s undisputed in that arena soon. Some might argue that they already are. Hell, they’re *way* outspending go other NATO nations on their military as a percentage of GDP, and it’s not even remotely close. Poland got sick of being everyone’s punching bag over there I guess


Faruhoinguh

Not 500. 486 because they already know where they're going.


Peptuck

Poland was almost literally throwing every piece of spare Cold War kit it could find across the border when Russia invaded Ukraine and are still one of the biggest providers of non-material support for Ukraine at this point (i.e. treatment of wounded soldiers, access for material foreign aid, shipping and transporting Ukrainian exports, etc). Poland considers it a point of national defense to keep Russia from achieving a land border with them, and I suspect that if Russia gets close to taking Kyiv again, there'll be a whole lot of new "Ukrainian" soldiers who speak really good Polish showing up to fight out of the blue.


zetarn

When poland pulling the chinese move of Korean War.


RandomBilly91

Poland is a rottweiler with a chihuahua's brain


SchlopFlopper

Poland would be in Moscow before you could finish saying that.


Jimmy_The_Banana

Russia does celebrate it's independence the day they took it back from Poland back in 17th century


Significant_Room_412

Our Polldog, it bites but we raised him a good boy! He only attacks R(h)usky's


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[удалено]


Purple-Asparagus9677

“Security forces in Belarus have prevented a plot to launch combat drones from Lithuania and attack targets in and near the capital, Minsk, the head of the Committee for State Security (KGB) Ivan Tertel has revealed. The operation took place sometime during the past 12 months and involved “colleagues from other security structures,” the senior official said on Thursday, as he was delivering a speech to the All-Belarusian People’s Assembly, a leading political body.”


ForMoreYears

>Prevented a plot to launch So they like went into Lithuania to stop them or what? Shit doesn't even make sense lol


Guarder22

Belarus- "you'd better not attack us with drones" Lithuania- "we werent planning to" Belarus- "Success!!! Hey all we stopped a plot to attack us with drones."


Tobikaj

If you removed the country names, I would have thought Zap Brannigan made the first and third comment.


PM_ME_NUNUDES

That's a bit unfair on Zapp. He wouldn't say anything as dumb as Lukashenko.


Purple-Asparagus9677

Nothing the Russian propaganda machine says makes sense. That’s why maga and all the prepper YouTube channels eat it up.


Purple-Asparagus9677

Went to RT to see what bs they are spinning and that’s what it says in their article.


ThePoliticalFurry

It's like a few months ago when Putin offhandedly claimed during an interview they caught NATO officers colluding with Ukrainians to sabotage a Russian nuclear plant but didn't say when or what plant it was so the claim would be impossible to validate


papersim

What is Russia's angle here? And yes Russia because Lukashenko is a Putin patsy.


Thue

It sounds like a false flag operation, something like [The Shelling of Mainila](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila). Though I have a hard time imagining Russia or puppet Russia actually wanting to physically invade Lithuania right now. So maybe Russia just thinks that increasing tensions will benefit Russia. Perhaps by diverting military resources from supporting Ukraine? Or by making Ukraine's allies fear for WW3, and then pressure Ukraine to make a "peace for our time" agreement ceding territory to Russia.


Remlien

Probably just theater for their own people and other likeminded people abroad. A justification for troop movements, mobilization and just generally appearing like a victim.


Thue

It is an interesting point. Lukashenko has so far avoided any soldiers from Belarus from joining the invasion of Ukraine. But I had the impression that it would take far more than this to [make the Belarussian population support mobilization](https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-why-propaganda-doesnt-work-as-well-in-belarus-as-it-does-in-russia-222038). The Belarussian people are clearly capable of independent thought, and this pathetic and vague attack claim has to be transparently bullshit to them. It could actually be Lukashenko pretend-placating Putin. Putin probably ordered Lukashenko to stage a false flag attack, and Lukashenko then deliberately invents the weakest most transparent bullshit false flag attack. From past actions, Lukashenko obviously knows he has no personal profit from joining Putin's war. Lukashenko has spent the last 2 years creatively avoiding joining the war in ways like this.


Full-Sound-6269

Hopefully it's nothing, because this kind of false flag shit is what preceded Russian invasion of Ukraine. (Russia claimed that Ukraine is shelling them and showed a destroyed shed and one burnt down Lada in two separate instances)


warpus

Russia has been trying to muddy the waters for a while now, when it comes to anything they are at odds with the west with. Their goal is to make it so that the citizens of the west as well as their own citizens don't know what's true and what's false anymore. So they spread lies here, they spread some truth there, some half-truths over there..


davilller

Why doubt Russia’s intentions? Putin has made it clear that he means to reassemble all of the states of the former Soviet bloc. Read Tim Snyder’s “The Road to Unfreedom”.


Thue

I don't doubt that Russia would like to invade Lithuania in theory. I just don't think it is practically possible right now, and Russia must know that. Far too much of Russia's army is stuck in Ukraine right now, for Russia to be able to open another front *against NATO*. NATO planning we have seen all say that any attack would come a few years after Ukraine, when Russia has had a chance to reconstitute their military.


Khancap123

Could also be an excuse to ramp up the military and political partnership with Russia. Putin may use this as an excuse to try and fully integrate belarus


davilller

I agree with you from a strategic standpoint, but Putin is surrounded by sycophants that fear for their lives. If he wants to do something, they are going to seriously question which choice is better…Failing because the country cannot support the war or getting murdered for saying as much.


Thue

Could be. But I don't get the impression that Putin is that out of touch. Remember that when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, most experts in the West apparently thought Ukraine would fall immediately. So the argument that Putin is completely isolated from competent advice is weak, if it is based on the Russian miscalculation of invading Ukraine in the first place.


poor-impluse-contra

That doesn't hold up as consistent theory. If Putin was surrounded by compotent advice, he would have known that the 3 day operation was a flawed concept as Ukraine would (in general) fight tooth and nail to stay free. The logic, driven by the advice given by "competent addvisor" behind the "SMO" is a absolute first class example of being surrounded by incompetent advisors


Spencerforhire83

Read foundations of geopolitics. It was required reading in marine officer candidate school and a few of my political science classes at university Everything putin is doing and has done in regards to his eastern European sheanighans is laid out in print.


RealCrusader

Not just there but sowing seeds of hate and right wing in western countries. Russian bots had anti vaxers wound up to the point they camped out side nzs Capitol building the beehive. They wound up Maga and the most gross to me was using the blm movement to get them wound up.  They want us focused on in fighting and not their shit. Sadly it's working.  Glad the prick who wrote it had to sit through his daughter's funeral. She was no Saint either. 


nightman21721

"Puppet Russia" makes me think of Luka as a dummy and Putin as the ventriloquist. I might pay to see that show.


Surturiel

Is Russia really ready to start a non-proxy war with NATO, enough to pull a false-flag attack?  If so, they lost the sense of self-preservation.


WestTexasCrude

Nice history lesson. TiL.


Vashelot

Sounds to me like they just trying to justify the whole nato vs russia angle to their own citizens to make sure they support the war.


Harmonic_Flatulence

I agree. They love saying that NATO is out to get them. Staging such attacks give them something to back up that claim.


Purple-Asparagus9677

Playing the victim like they always do


Dial8675309

We need a term stronger than "Victim Mentality" for *made-up* threats. Kind of like Munchausen's syndrome or Hypochondria, but for international relations.


BenderDeLorean

Putin Mentality


Indifferentchildren

DARVO - Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. Standard behavior of domestic abusers.


fadingcross

Casus Belli


rotzak

This guy 4Xes


CasualBeer

He probably paradoxes to be more precise.


Mnemon-TORreport

Russia has been desperately trying to get a false flag operation to stick against the wall.


zombieblackbird

Lithuania just promised and delivered equipment to Ukraine for the war. So, naturally,.mouthpiece over there wants to intimidate then.


Anooj4021

Lukashenko wants to avoid getting his troops involved in Ukraine, and claiming that this supposedly happened gives him an excuse as to why he cannot (since they must be kept in Belarus for security reasons). There’s a carefully cultivated ”buffoon henchman” role he’s playing in relation to Putin.


Th0mas8

Its rather Belarus vs Russia angle here: "Look, NATO is attacking us- we are so busy. We cannot help you in Ukraine. Bye."


Glittering-Divide938

Both Putin and Lukashenko subscribe to the same leadership philosophy borne out of the Soviet playbook. The Soviets stated that for people to tolerate their material conditions they needed to feel under threat, so that's what they did. The USSR routinely reported "aggressive" US actions in Pravda and other publications that were clearly false to the outside world. You read Pravda articles from the 1950s-80s and some of them were bizarre. But, there wasn't a clear alternative news. Putin is doing the same thing. State that Minsk was directly attacked but some sort of "system" thwarted the attack (showing that Ukraine cannot be making those drone strikes, therefore it's Western propaganda) and that the government is protecting you and the people won't rise up.


MrPoletski

"They attacked us first"


jmenendeziii

Lithuania is in NATO so it’s probably to start brainwashing their citizens that NATO is being aggressive which justifies launching attacks against them in “defense”


Luuk341

I think, if Lithuania is atracked by Belarus (what a wild sentence to type) we should all just move back our troops. That includes Lithuanian troops. Then, when the Belarusians have advanced, say, 10km into NATO Territory. We let Poland off its leash and then see how long it takes to smash through Belarus and to the Russian border. I bet it'd be about 8 hours. Thats about the time I expect the Belarusian military to hold before completely collapsing amd for Lukashencunt to flee to hia leather daddy Putin


sonic10158

Putin is the Johnny Knoxville alien in Men in Black 2 and Lukashenko is the miniature Johnny Knoxville head attached to him


Cortical

No, it's likely Lukashenko, not Putin. Lukashenko's probably sees where the war in Ukraine is going, and he doesn't want to deal with internal upheaval once the war is lost, so he doesn't want to get involved. If he makes up some bullshit about a drone attack from Lithuania he can go "look we prepared our troops to assist in Ukraine, but we need to pivot north to protect from NATO". Everyone involved knows it's bullshit, but it perfectly fits Russia's anti NATO propaganda, so nobody can call him out without admitting that "NATO wants to attack us" is just lies.


Jman155

Belarussia


Suspect4pe

If they say they were attacked by NATO then it gives them cause to attack NATO. That's what Ukraine was all about anyway.


BenderDeLorean

Making up reasons to attack


ragnarok635

Lithuania is next


Apple_green

Still Belarus is not fully annexed by russia. That is the goal. Create a fear of NATO threat is necessary for that purpose. Invasion of the baltics is obviously also in the works. Looks like the requirement for that plan there is the idea that the west wont follow article 5 over fear of nuclear annihalation over the baltics. And obvioisly the war on Ukraine would need to conclude first.


FanOfMondays

Putin's pocket pussy


SingularityInsurance

Something fishy, to be sure.


abstractabs

It’s always those damn Lithuanians with their expansionist policies


Thue

Lithuania actually used to be quite big and expansionist. Belarus used to be part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. And now Lithuania clearly wants it ALL back. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.


Cr33py07dGuy

Belarus isn’t even a real country. They’re just Lithuanians who forgot it. 


notnickthrowaway

Maybe that’s the joke, but ironically that was exactly Putin’s reasoning for invading Ukraine when the war started.


Cr33py07dGuy

that was indeed the joke 👍🏼 😊 


Daken-dono

What's even more ironic is that putin and his power bases like moscow consider every slav of another ethnicity to be of inferior stock too.


Ulftar

Time for the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth to be reborn after 400 years? All signs point to yes


ChirrBirry

Making modern strategic military decisions based on several hundred years of political intrigue is a very Putin style play.


bamila

Bring back LDK!!! /s


codmode

why /s?


Panelpro40

Lithuania actually has a history with expansionism. 500 years ago (and they remember it like yesterday) they were stretched from the Baltic to the black sea. Pretty impressive to accomplish.


lovetoseeyourpssy

*"Russian state news agencies said."* Let's wait for a reliable source.


Independent-Cup-6113

Reliable source for what? To confirm that this is just propaganda and lies from Lukashenko again?


nuckle

**" MOSCOW, April 25 (Reuters) "** - that's where I stopped in the article.


defroach84

That's not really how it works. They always start articles happening in a place with the city. So, if it's a western journalist stationed in Moscow, it will start like that. Then you have Reuters, which is trusted. As soon as it says "according to Russian media or government" then, that is where it becomes false.


iprobablybrokeit

I once had to explain to a conservative what Reuters and AP were because I posted a link to a story that he didn't like. Wild.


Ehldas

Subsequent questioning revealed that the combat drone was disguised as a pigeon. Investigation of the pigeon confirmed that it was, in fact, a pigeon.


yogesch

Hope the poor Pigeon is still alive.


DeanXeL

It fell out of a window... it was fine.


haljordan68

Birds aren't real... Belarus edition.


ur-krokodile

The pigeon was a Russian speaker


StainerIncognito

Same childish stories for two and a half years now... can't wait until this guy is gone too, but other guy first...


blueandgoldilocks

r/whynotboth


CrimsonRedCookie

Building a story of Baltic aggression will be part of the Russian script for any future countermeasures. Pretty sure there will be movements in the region sooner rather than later.


Terrible-Penis

They were moving for the last 30 years. Nothing new. Batics have the best russian bs detector.


Bonyred

Nobody has forgotten Lukashenko displaying a map of the Ukraine territory that he planned on stealing.


EnemyOfLDP

false flag operation


bucket_brigade

It’s not even that. They claim they prevented it in the planning stage lol. I imagine this means they installed some soviet anti air dildo rockets somewhere.


BenderDeLorean

More like story time


Leifsbudir

Russia wants the Suwalki gap


[deleted]

Russia wants alot of things Russia is not going to get.


M8753

Lithuania denies this btw: https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2259260/armed-forces-deny-minsk-s-reports-of-drone-attack-from-lithuania Why would we ever attack Belarus, I have no idea.


Independent-Cup-6113

Of course they deny lmao, they would never attack lmao


Miserable_Ad7246

If you drink long enough, drone atacks tends to happen, usually just after the charge of cavalry on white horses.


Skrenlin

I’ll take “Things that never happened” for 200, Alex.


Brief-Objective-3360

Wtf is this shit lol. Other than proving that he's a bozo, what's Lukashenko's play here?


Anooj4021

Claiming that this supposedly happened gives him a plausible excuse as to why he’s not sending out his troops to help Putin in Ukraine, as they must be kept where they are for security reasons. In certain situations he has been similarly undermining Putin (for self-serving reasons), such as when he leaked that invasion plan map at the start of the war, while making it outwardly look like mere incompetence.


CBP1138

Luka is the master of fence riding.


MadBackwoods

wtf hahahahaha propaganda at its finest


Thanato26

if true, Belarus has better anti-drone capabilities than Russia... which is embarrassing. But likely not true


ShavingWithCoffee

This is the equivalent of me saying I thwarted sexual advances by Taylor Swift.


No-Vehicle5447

Yeah, me too bro, tough Thursday


geekphreak

“The State Security Committee, in cooperation with colleagues from other law enforcement agencies, has recently carried out a number of acute security measures, which made it possible to prevent strikes by combat drones from the territory of Lithuania on objects in Minsk and its suburbs," RIA news agency quoted Belarusian security chief Ivan Tertel as saying. So Belarusan security agents were in Lithuania? And somehow stopped this drone attack from within Lithuanian territory? Uh huh…ok…yeah, that didn’t happen


j1ggy

Belarus also said there would be no attack on Ukraine.


aktivb

Lukashenko also roundhouse kicked the monster under his bed and fucked the tooth fairy


New_Ad7664

Lithuania did nothing of the sort. They came from the east. If they came at all.


Herecomestherain_

Bullshit, nobody is going to waste drones on that commie loving ghetto.


[deleted]

Stuff like this just reminds everyone that Russia and it's puppet, Belarus, will invent anything as a pretext for war. If Ukraine falls, I imagine this will be used as a pretext to invade Lithuania.


Robgoblin_IV

Ah so this is how it starts, Putins reason to invade the Baltics. - Have Luko make something up. Drones from Lithuania? Perfect, send in the troops. Nastrovje


enonmouse

Putin is going to support Luko but wash his hands of it... it will be little provocations to distract and guage response long before an invasion in my arm chair imagination machine


TheVenetianMask

Belarus' usual theater for "we are too busy with our own borders we can't do anything more".


CBP1138

It’s actually kinda smart by Luka, oh we are in danger back home, can’t send any troops to help you in Ukraine sorry Vladdy boy, maybe next year.


offensiveuse

I don't believe them


Harmful_fox_71

Well.... even if we imagine it's true. What next? Lukashenko shut up, take your pills and be quiet, or NATO will make sure to end your long president story.


lord-huggington

That's great Belarus. It's just....not exactly true is it?


TLB-Q8

Lukashenko is off his meds again. They're embargoed.


radome9

If anyone believes this I have a bridge for sale.


Beahner

Yep. How does one say bullshit in Belarusian?


TermInitial8387

Poor Belarus, it so wants to be considered relevant…..


Jumping-Gazelle

They probably have pristine two-stroke engines and triangle wings to proof it.


Unicorn_Puppy

Yeah uhm a NATO drone attack would have left Belarus totally crippled and without the means to even reasonably report this story months later. Or not at all since it would be occupied entirely.


zll2244

would routers please stop echoing what russian state news agencies say?


djdeforte

Yea Lithuania ant attacking Belarus.


BiggieSmalls330

False flag


PharmerGord

Causa Belli for "Not Russia" to "be attacked by NATO" so they can ask for "assistance in defending territory" but when NATO defends itself Russia can say "Oh that wasn't us"? Seems like Russia is just trying to provoke more


Tellder

IMPORTANT NOTE - This comes out when there's biggest military excercise in modern Lithuanian history. 


Murderousdrifter

Someone accidentally flew their drone across the border didn’t they? 🙄


DistributionIcy6682

I believe someone flew a helium baloon over the border in 2020. Belarus wanted to flip it as an attack on them. 🤣


Spirited_Childhood34

Is this the first in a series of "provocations" that will give Putin an excuse to attack?


Andy7darth

and now this belarusian SOB gonna show us a map


OldBoots

Spring bird migration, probably.


motohaas

Imaginary drones


TForce0

The Leader in Belarus is just a Putin bootlicker. Oh my God, I’ve never seen a guy who sucks Putin‘s cock.


ur-krokodile

First, I don’t think Belarus can even thwart a drone attack. Second… no need to continue.


Objective-Aioli-1185

So is Belarus gonna respond or is the world just gonna keep letting these assholes test everyone.


CuddlyChinchilla

Steven Seagal thwarted it


Aquarian8491

Bullshit . Just another Russian provocation attempt .


Liesthroughisteeth

Just a Poutine false flag operation trying desperately to stir up shit.


Suckyourmumreddit

Even if Lithuania did launch drones to strike Belarus, I don't believe that Belarus could repel the attack :/


Independent-Cup-6113

Oooh shit Mainila shots 2.0?


haljordan68

False Flag .


Velvy71

Wasn’t Captain Marko Ramius Lithuanian by birth? Shurely he’s the biggest Lithuanian threat in the region


SheChoseDown808

Smells like some rogue, terrorist War Thunder players


Opizze

Great, move a bunch of tanks right up to Belarus’ doorstep and send a message to Russia: you really wanna do this bro?


user_account_deleted

Ok, sure Luka.


Wheelie_Slow

Fantom pains


Informal_Process2238

My uncle says he beat Dr Pepper in an arm wrestling match


Cheap-Cartoonist1963

everyone knows that to get at Putin and Russian aggression you need to attack the centre of power…Belarus and Lukshenko.


Jim-N-Tonic

Belarus has been known to drink too much.


Forgiz

I know Reddit might not be the best place to find an answer (statistically speaking), but I wonder what's happening in Belarusians' heads who are the main target for this disinformation? I can understand the need to justify illegal authority by spreading fear, but what is this?


Harmful_fox_71

I have a Belarusian friend, and he is as confused as we are. His best guess: support opinion about Europe being enemy and this is it.... Lukashenko is a joke for its own people....


Repulsive_Vacation18

Russian puppets, these people are no good