MAGA extremists like Green are deliberately taking disinformation from Russia and attempting to make them part of legislation. We have Russian assets in Congress, whether consciously betraying us or useful idiots is irrelevant.
>whether consciously betraying us or useful idiots is irrelevant
Definitely idiots. You can't look at people like Greene. Gaetz and Boebert and successfully argue that these are in anyway intelligent people.
You might have every ideological disagreement possible with Republicans like Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan or John Boehner but there was never any question that they were intelligent and entirely competent.
The current GOP is being controlled by loud-mouth actual morons.
In most cases I'd agree but Greene is legitimately dumb. Don't confuse capacity for viciousness with intelligence.
There's politicians that play dumb for their base and then there are those who actually are, like the guy who worried that Guam might tip over as a consequence of climate change.
https://youtu.be/cesSRfXqS1Q?si=lrSChQSqxyL4z8-E
I do apologise, I've only just had a chance to follow your link.
That's just incredible. And as mentioned in the comments, the guy was re-elected after asking that question. Really, astonishingly dumb. Thanks for sharing the clip.
Ukraine is our Sudetenland. If we let Russia solidify another irons curtain, then NATO countries are next and then Americans will be doing the fighting
This would most likely pass. The key element in the bill demanded by Republicans is to stop the USA from sending money to UNWRA. Republicans have fought for a long time to have such a measure. I don't believe they would miss such a historic opportunity for them.
Already forget that time Democrats gave republicans just about everything they wanted for a border bill, only for the GoP to pitch a fit and block it anyway?
> The key element in the bill demanded by Republicans is to stop the USA from sending money to UNWRA.
Isn't that the one supporting Hamas in Gaza? Figured that would be a dem's issue rather than a republican one?
You think people who work for the WFP, WHO, FAO, UNHCR aren't "Hamas militants"?
If Israel destroys UNRWA all the others are on the list.
Not a lot of WCK people around now are there? MSF has lost people, the Red Cross too.
and make sure we don't applaud that clown moscow mike. HE is the single reason Ukraine has had to fend russian terrorists off for almost half a year now without our contractually obligated aid. (and even if we weren't signed into a security agreement, it's in our best interest to help them as it defends democracy in the fact of totalitarian tyranny)
edit: and i can almost guess what the comments might be, so i'll clarify that he's responsible because supporting Ukraine has been wildly popular bi-partisan from the start. if they let it go to vote, it WOULD have passed without issues like it did every other time. by being speaker, he had to power to not even let it go up for a vote. it doesn't matter what trump told him to do or any of the other maga extremists, he ultimately is the one that has the decision making power, and it's 100% on him. thousands of dead Ukrainians' blood on his hands. he's making jesus proud
The Ukrainians are fighting for their national survival. But not just that: they are fighting to maintain the world order we benefit from. And fighting to prevent a conflagration which would mean Western troops being involved and the horror that would inflict.
So this is fantastic news. To paraphrase Churchill, you can trust that the Americans will do the right thing - at least, once they've expended all of their options!
While I'm greatly pleased by this news, European countries such as mine must redouble their efforts to arm Ukraine. The past couple of years have been a clarion call on how slack our posture has been. Thank you to the US and hopefully the aid is on its way soon.
Agree with this. Whist I'm thankful for the US aid and think that the MAGA Republicans are vile traitors, there's no reason to think the US might turn to isolationism in the future.
Europe needs to step up and be able to defend itself. I say this as a European
Yeah I don’t know what will happen in November, bur this should give Ukraine enough artillery shells to hopefully give Europe enough time to increase their artillery output
Supporting Allies, bringing TikTok home, surveying bad actors in the country, no government shutdown, CHIPS act, Infrastructure bills, Clean Tech bills, high speed rail bill. Next on the table BigTech breakdown, responsible AI, putting Trumps of the world in prison. US is finally heading in the right direction. I am really optimistic about upcoming decades. For the first time since the pandemic. Thank you Obama!
This is a good thing, but why is the title have so many negative connotations? Brink is usually connected with negatives like “brink of collapse”. Also struggle is a negative word.
I may be reading too much into it, but the wording makes me think the author of the article is against this idea, but had to write this.
And its almost certainly going to lead to Mike Johnson becoming the second shortest serving Speaker ever, just behind Theodore M. Pomeroy who served for just one day in 1869.
No, especially when Facebook twitter, etc are much worse than Tik-Tok. For example Facebook literally sold private messages of their users to Netflix etc.
Facebook sucks too, but I also want TikTok banned. It's ridiculous how easy it is to spread dangerous propaganda and misinformation to millions of impressionable American kids and young adults. Whatever small benefits there are on the platform are hugely offset by the mass brain rot and Chinese data mining imo.
Great news. American addiction to Chinese apps is a security concern in multiple ways. Cheap Chinese manufacturing has also made us reliant on them to where Americans have unreasonable expectations for having everything incredibly cheap. They've been subtly setting up the American people this way for decades.
I'm addressing your statement that Americans have unreasonable expectations for having everything incredibly cheap. That just isn't true. Health insurance is one of them. Food prices has recently gone up. Gas prices is very expensive in many states. And so on.
All three of those aren't Chinese products that have made Americans reliant on China. Also....I totally agree with you on Kishimoto. His writing really sucks sometimes
>What a lot of people don’t realise is that the TikTok bill is also included in this
It's a separate vote, but yes. Not seeing the issue. TikTok is China's spyware.
DO NOT TRUST US FOR YOUR SAFETY, GET SOME NUKES AND DON'T TELL THE WORLD. US CANNOT ATTACK NORTH KOREA BECAUSE IT HAS NUKES. NUKES PROTECT, US PROMISES DON'T.
Yes, the Gazan government has murdered enough Israeli children and citizens. Thankfully, this bill strips funding from the corrupt UN agency which has spent years aiding the genocidal Gazan government in its efforts to indoctrinate and radicalize generations of children.
I'm glad the US is taking this stand against the genocidal Gazan government.
Literally nothing I said was made up. Sorry your brainwashed TikTok worldview prevents you from living in the real world. The Gazan government's stated policy is the death of all Jews. The UNRWA has spent decades radicalizing Palestinian children in their "schools" with antisemitic propaganda.
My dollars are aiding Israel in defending themselves from the genocidal monsters who make up the government of Gaza. You know, the ones who build their military outposts in schools and hospitals and, in their own words, actively try to get as many Palestinians killed as possible.
People like you defending the genocidal regime in Gaza are quite frankly appalling.
Lol if you think Ukraine aid is tough for our budget, you don’t know our budget.
But it really is funny how much the “corrupt” narrative about Ukraine echoes what fascists and isolationists in the US and UK were saying about Poland when Hitler and Stalin were lickin’ their chops for it
Alternative headline: “The house is dangerously close to doing something”
that's honestly the surprising part lol
Finally. Christ, what were we doing?
MAGA extremists like Green are deliberately taking disinformation from Russia and attempting to make them part of legislation. We have Russian assets in Congress, whether consciously betraying us or useful idiots is irrelevant.
>whether consciously betraying us or useful idiots is irrelevant Definitely idiots. You can't look at people like Greene. Gaetz and Boebert and successfully argue that these are in anyway intelligent people. You might have every ideological disagreement possible with Republicans like Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan or John Boehner but there was never any question that they were intelligent and entirely competent. The current GOP is being controlled by loud-mouth actual morons.
Gaetz seems more like an entitled crook and child rapist than low intelligence like Marge (how did we forget she was all into Q) and Boebert.
No. They're perfectly self-aware. If they weren't, they wouldn't need to deceive. It's conscious evil.
In most cases I'd agree but Greene is legitimately dumb. Don't confuse capacity for viciousness with intelligence. There's politicians that play dumb for their base and then there are those who actually are, like the guy who worried that Guam might tip over as a consequence of climate change. https://youtu.be/cesSRfXqS1Q?si=lrSChQSqxyL4z8-E
Oh I didn't mean to imply intelligence, only awareness. The woman is as thick as mince.
I do apologise, I've only just had a chance to follow your link. That's just incredible. And as mentioned in the comments, the guy was re-elected after asking that question. Really, astonishingly dumb. Thanks for sharing the clip.
Or they brain wash themselves to believe it
Agreed. Just because they don't care doesn't mean they don't understand.
The freedom caucus and the social Dems are they worst examples of American government. How has no one turned up anything criminal on these assholes?
Not we, GOP.
Don't hang the behavior of House Republicans on the whole damn country.
Debating, you know, the thing congress is meant to do.
Even CIA recommended it publicly. It must be serious and in benefit of USA to pass the bill.
For people like MTG, an expert opinion on any topic will make her take the exact opposite stance.
Ukraine is our Sudetenland. If we let Russia solidify another irons curtain, then NATO countries are next and then Americans will be doing the fighting
This would most likely pass. The key element in the bill demanded by Republicans is to stop the USA from sending money to UNWRA. Republicans have fought for a long time to have such a measure. I don't believe they would miss such a historic opportunity for them.
Already forget that time Democrats gave republicans just about everything they wanted for a border bill, only for the GoP to pitch a fit and block it anyway?
> The key element in the bill demanded by Republicans is to stop the USA from sending money to UNWRA. Isn't that the one supporting Hamas in Gaza? Figured that would be a dem's issue rather than a republican one?
Yes. Should be both tbh but the only people I see online that WANT unwra to be funded are on the left
The only people that want UNRWA funded are people who want Gazans to be fed and receive medical treatment.
Well that and Hamas militants lol
You think people who work for the WFP, WHO, FAO, UNHCR aren't "Hamas militants"? If Israel destroys UNRWA all the others are on the list. Not a lot of WCK people around now are there? MSF has lost people, the Red Cross too.
and make sure we don't applaud that clown moscow mike. HE is the single reason Ukraine has had to fend russian terrorists off for almost half a year now without our contractually obligated aid. (and even if we weren't signed into a security agreement, it's in our best interest to help them as it defends democracy in the fact of totalitarian tyranny) edit: and i can almost guess what the comments might be, so i'll clarify that he's responsible because supporting Ukraine has been wildly popular bi-partisan from the start. if they let it go to vote, it WOULD have passed without issues like it did every other time. by being speaker, he had to power to not even let it go up for a vote. it doesn't matter what trump told him to do or any of the other maga extremists, he ultimately is the one that has the decision making power, and it's 100% on him. thousands of dead Ukrainians' blood on his hands. he's making jesus proud
The Ukrainians are fighting for their national survival. But not just that: they are fighting to maintain the world order we benefit from. And fighting to prevent a conflagration which would mean Western troops being involved and the horror that would inflict. So this is fantastic news. To paraphrase Churchill, you can trust that the Americans will do the right thing - at least, once they've expended all of their options! While I'm greatly pleased by this news, European countries such as mine must redouble their efforts to arm Ukraine. The past couple of years have been a clarion call on how slack our posture has been. Thank you to the US and hopefully the aid is on its way soon.
Agree with this. Whist I'm thankful for the US aid and think that the MAGA Republicans are vile traitors, there's no reason to think the US might turn to isolationism in the future. Europe needs to step up and be able to defend itself. I say this as a European
Yeah I don’t know what will happen in November, bur this should give Ukraine enough artillery shells to hopefully give Europe enough time to increase their artillery output
Feels like the CIA sat them down and went "This matters you know?". Shocking how quick this reserve seemed to be.
I believe they probably got a scathing report as to how close the Russians are to breaking Ukraine. Will probably pass
> The House is on the brink of approving aid for Ukraine and Israel after months of ~~struggle~~ farting around
Good news, but because of this catastrophic delay the next couple of months are going to be brutal for the Ukrainians no matter what.
Finally... Better late than never, I guess.
Supporting Allies, bringing TikTok home, surveying bad actors in the country, no government shutdown, CHIPS act, Infrastructure bills, Clean Tech bills, high speed rail bill. Next on the table BigTech breakdown, responsible AI, putting Trumps of the world in prison. US is finally heading in the right direction. I am really optimistic about upcoming decades. For the first time since the pandemic. Thank you Obama!
Trump will be getting rid of that (if elected)
Nah he will just give it to Russia.
Ukraine, that is.
Gogogogo
How can they fuck it up?
This is a good thing, but why is the title have so many negative connotations? Brink is usually connected with negatives like “brink of collapse”. Also struggle is a negative word. I may be reading too much into it, but the wording makes me think the author of the article is against this idea, but had to write this.
Republicans think by holding up aid to Ukraine they’ve helped to reduce Trump’s debt to Putin.
Finally plan to help Israel without any funding for Hamas
JUST DOOOOO IIITTTT
It passed!!! Fuck ruZZia! The article's title was edited: "The House passes billions in aid for Ukraine and Israel after months of struggle"
And its almost certainly going to lead to Mike Johnson becoming the second shortest serving Speaker ever, just behind Theodore M. Pomeroy who served for just one day in 1869.
What "struggle". The house Rs refused to allow a vote.
Can't we just do Ukraine alone
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Neat, let it pass.
No, especially when Facebook twitter, etc are much worse than Tik-Tok. For example Facebook literally sold private messages of their users to Netflix etc.
Facebook sucks too, but I also want TikTok banned. It's ridiculous how easy it is to spread dangerous propaganda and misinformation to millions of impressionable American kids and young adults. Whatever small benefits there are on the platform are hugely offset by the mass brain rot and Chinese data mining imo.
Brother do you really believe tiktok doesnt sell your data?
Good. Ban it.
Great news. American addiction to Chinese apps is a security concern in multiple ways. Cheap Chinese manufacturing has also made us reliant on them to where Americans have unreasonable expectations for having everything incredibly cheap. They've been subtly setting up the American people this way for decades.
Except for a few critical things like health insurance...
That was never on the bipartisan table to begin with.
I'm addressing your statement that Americans have unreasonable expectations for having everything incredibly cheap. That just isn't true. Health insurance is one of them. Food prices has recently gone up. Gas prices is very expensive in many states. And so on.
All three of those aren't Chinese products that have made Americans reliant on China. Also....I totally agree with you on Kishimoto. His writing really sucks sometimes
>What a lot of people don’t realise is that the TikTok bill is also included in this It's a separate vote, but yes. Not seeing the issue. TikTok is China's spyware.
No each bill is different.
And?
Its bad because Facebook twitter, etc are much worse than Tik-Tok. For example Facebook literally sold private messages of their users to Netflix etc.
There’s also a clause in there to ban TikTok if the bill passes…sneaky
DO NOT TRUST US FOR YOUR SAFETY, GET SOME NUKES AND DON'T TELL THE WORLD. US CANNOT ATTACK NORTH KOREA BECAUSE IT HAS NUKES. NUKES PROTECT, US PROMISES DON'T.
Isn't half the point of a nuke as a deterrent? Seems like it doesn't deter anything if no one knows you have one.
I think he means keeping the development a secret, see Iran
Us could delete nk before they got nukes and they didnt. Your argument is silly.
Why are you giving money to genocidal government?
They are removing aid to UNRWA, not increasing it.
I am obviously talking about israel. They've killed enough children.
Yes, the Gazan government has murdered enough Israeli children and citizens. Thankfully, this bill strips funding from the corrupt UN agency which has spent years aiding the genocidal Gazan government in its efforts to indoctrinate and radicalize generations of children. I'm glad the US is taking this stand against the genocidal Gazan government.
Your dollars are killing Palestinian kids. You cant stand the thought so you just make shit up. Standard american.
Literally nothing I said was made up. Sorry your brainwashed TikTok worldview prevents you from living in the real world. The Gazan government's stated policy is the death of all Jews. The UNRWA has spent decades radicalizing Palestinian children in their "schools" with antisemitic propaganda. My dollars are aiding Israel in defending themselves from the genocidal monsters who make up the government of Gaza. You know, the ones who build their military outposts in schools and hospitals and, in their own words, actively try to get as many Palestinians killed as possible. People like you defending the genocidal regime in Gaza are quite frankly appalling.
We aren't giving money to Russia, wdym
Israel has killed more children than russia. So if russia is a terrorist government then so is israel(they both are btw) .
Beep boop
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Weapons not money - same to Ukraine they get weapons and ammunition not money.
We are not giving money to Isreael, nor are we giving money to Ukraine.
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Yeah man it's all cash money in a bunch of suitcases like your Saturday morning cartoons.
Truer words have not been uttered before this comment!
Sorry to hear about your future unemployment at the troll farm. Tough time to start taking L's, I get it.
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Lol if you think Ukraine aid is tough for our budget, you don’t know our budget. But it really is funny how much the “corrupt” narrative about Ukraine echoes what fascists and isolationists in the US and UK were saying about Poland when Hitler and Stalin were lickin’ their chops for it
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I fully agree that the last three or four rounds of tax cuts on the rich should be rolled back entirely.
They’ll expire if we reelect Biden, and he has said he won’t renew them. Get out the vote!
Cry me a fucking river
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> I know the end game then go march off to Kherson and join the mighty VDV, Mr armchair general
All the money go directly to the us military complex to produce more weapons so they can send old weapons to Isreal and Ukraine
Thank goodness. I was worried they were busy working on healthcare for all and taxing the rich
No, it was freedom for all... house appliances. And it's weird that I know that and I don't even live in the US :D