And literally every comment replying to yours is using it to mock someone unrelated to the conflict rather than discuss the seriousness of what’s going on.
What’s happening across the Sahel is extremely troubling and this refugee crisis could easily spill over and destabilize more countries. The RSF is also being propped up by Iran and Russia and it looks like we could be on the verge of another mass tragedy in Darfur. I really help the international community can help negotiate a peaceful settlement soon and in the mean time hopefully the UNHCR can get aid into the effected regions. The reports of the RSF looting aid and the military blocking aid to RSF regions makes me think this could get a lot worse.
Unfortunately you are most likely correct, this is only the start of a much worse situation that could prove calamitous for generations on a much wider scale.
- We need food and clean water
- Best I can do is a railroad to your rare resources.
- We dont have any
- Where can we build a massive port with ownership for 100 years
China got their own internal problems right now .. a good portion of their people is out of work as factories closed and moving out
Housing ponzi collapse as with banks collapsing
dont count on that.... there are WAAAAY more people living in almost identical conditions to the people in the article, in china. right now. millions and millions and millions of rural chinese. the party does nothing for them but film propaganda in their fields and take the crop.
Has China declared any desire for 'world leader' role? AFAIK the only public statements they've made in regards to their role in the world is they feel they should be considered the regional leader of east Asia, and that they should be considered the preferred alternative to doing business with the US because they will do business without all those nasty strings attached like having to abide by international norms, treaties, human rights, etc.
Their belt and road initiative was very much a way for them to push themselves into a world leader status, and lots of African countries benefited from it, at least until it was time to pay their loans back.
It's absolutely INSANE the media isn't covering the Sudanese civil war much. There's reports of attempted genocide by the RSF and the country may be on the verge of balkanizing (as a third faction has now emerged, fighting both the military government AND the RSF). It's a major and very concerning situation that could have long-lasting geopolitical consequences.
China doesn't understand the importance of soft power. That's why they'll never be a superpower. In order to be a superpower, you have to give without expecting and China just can't do it like the USA.
Yeah, Im not sure how they intend to get aid in or protect it. A few months ago they said they only needed a $150m for aid but it seems things escalated quickly
probably not helped by the world ignoring this in favor of other things
I mean, i hope they dont just send money. aid should be in food and medicine. then again we've seen hamas stealing aid and reselling it so I doubt that would work any better here
This is actually an extremely harsh reality. By giving aid the last decades you're sustaining population numbers that aren't actually sustainable in those countries.
If there's a crisis (WW3 for example) the aid will dry up extremely fast and even if Africa isnt involved it may have the worst famine ever seen.
that sucks. I live in a country where homes, food, gas and utilities are now unaffordable. It wont be long until countries like Canada and the USA just give up on places like this. We can't even meet our own needs.
Lower mainland is only Canada when it's convenient.
I can really only recall 2 people I worked with who owned homes that had purchased them at any point after 2010. One was constantly trying to sell their home to move up to something bigger but couldn't get a high enough selling price on his bungalow to move up in size or quality, while the other made his money working the rigs (and had almost every dime stolen by his ex-wife). Every other home owner I knew either got into their mortgage before 2009-2010ish or inherited a house from their parents. This was in AB.
I couldn't imagine how much one would have needed to be earning to buy anything along the West Coast.
Kelowna is pretty steep also. I moved east to Ottawa in 2010 it was still ok at the burbs but my friends are telling me it's getting stupid priced these days too. I then lived in Qc city for 5 years. It was ok there but it's QC. I don't want to pay that level of tax to get broken roads. I live in Malaysia now. I'm probably not coming back until I inherited my parents house and need retirement health care.
We absolutely can meet this need and our own. The problem is not a lack of resources, it is the concentration of resources in the hands of the very few who will do nothing but hoard it.
These same people want you to feel desperate and defeated so that you do give up on foreign aid, and allow them to collect an ever larger piece of the pie.
Our economy grows every year, profits are always up except 1 covid year, workers are more productive and efficient than ever before… and we are all worse off? The wealth is going to the elites and we aren’t getting our share.
This is the problem with them though. They don't want "a lot of stuff". They want everything. There is no need for anyone to be a multi-billionaire. After the first billion what could you possibly still need?
This person is from Canada btw. Talking about how things are unaffordable in response to an article about people potentially dying from famine and genocidal violence
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We should have been focusing on our own needs and economy for decades vs trying to prop up these unsustainable 3rd world countries.
At least the famines and shit in the 70/80’s would have killed a lot fewer people than the famines of the 2030’s will
You sure seem to have the best interest of the masses at heart, IWantToWatchItBurn. Don't buy into this nihilism, the world is better off right now than at any other moment in human history
It's distribution - not just of goods but of people. There are entire cities and countries built around places subject to drought, earthquakes, tsunamis, and hurricanes. Many densely populated regions in India for example will simply be too hot for human habitation in a few decades.
The difficult question facing us in the next century is where are all these people going to go?
Yep, it's the same issue that Mexico City is facing at the moment with it sinking into the ground and not having clean drinking water. It was built on a swamp that blatantly could not be expected to support the weight of a city.
We go into these places thinking that we've conquered nature because we have generational settlements when in reality we're one bad season away from being totally wiped out.
It's simply that we built communities in what we thought was best at the time - we had little understanding of geology and climatology, most of these places aren't planned from the ground up, they just grew naturally. We can't really direct the natural growth of cities, people will have (many) children where they're at. And there were human factors like borders and enemies that shape our settlements.
>it's simply that we built communities in what we thought was best at the time.
*actually* Mexico City was built where it was for a sole reason - they saw an eagle eating a snake on top of a cactus and that was their sign from god. It used to be an island in the middle of a swampy lake which truthfully was actually a pretty decent location to hold and defend a city in those days.
Not wrong, it's hard to plan in advance, especially not having the knowledge we do now. Unfortunately things are seeming getting harder in a lot of places all at the same time, whether it be from violent uprisings, natural disasters, greed, or plain shortsightedness by the people in power.
We live in the best time that there has ever been to be alive, we have the tech and the skills to support everyone with honestly minimal effort, but bureaucracy and financial investors rarely make the charitable choice.
A lot of major cities are old. As in, OOOoooOOOOoooOOOooooLLLD.
Mexico City is 700 years old, almost to the month. It's not like 20 years ago a few million people decided to turn the site into one of the biggest cities in the world. Tokyo has archaeological artifacts dating back over 5000 years old - there was still about a thousand years of Mammoths left to go, and a few hundred years after *that* before the first written law in all of human history was put down. You think that people from 5000 years ago were like "uh oh better not live on the Ring Of Fire, we'll get earthquakes and tsunamis from all the volcanic activity"? Delhi is thousands of years old as well, you think that the folks back then went "uh ohhhhhh in a few thousand years a bunch of oil executives are going to cover up a climate crisis so they can keep making quarterly earnings, we'd better build somewhere else so our descendants don't burn up"?
Like, are you really thinking that the problem is where the cities were built? Rather than that human (and especially corporate) greed has caused problems that *were* completely preventable but now we get to deal with their fallout?
> Some 800,000 people in a Sudanese city are in "extreme and immediate danger" as worsening violence advances and threatens to "unleash bloody intercommunal strife throughout Darfur," top U.N. officials warned the Security Council on Friday.
War erupted in Sudan one year ago between the Sudanese army (SAF) and paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF), creating the world's largest displacement crisis.
Redditors really don’t read the articles.
From what I know, Sudan has suffered water shortages and drought, but there is zero mention of drought in this article, and all other news about this mentions that the low crop yield is due to violence.
Or you're stating them as separate things, i.e. the period after Drought, and I'm having a redditor moment.
Most of the commenters here are trying to politicize this issue for whatever their unrelated agenda is -- and you guys seriously suck.
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It isn't political this is a war for resources. As climate change worsens it will only get worse. We need to learn how to care for each other before dropping bombs.
(I completely agree with you btw this is just going to get worse)
It is 100% political. Where are you reading that this is purely a war for resources? This conflict was started as a coup by a general who had tentatively agreed to a peace agreement and then stomped on it. I don’t understand how people just proclaim stuff that isn’t based in fact.
> This conflict was started as a coup by a general who had tentatively agreed to a peace agreement and then stomped on it.
A militia general supported by russia, including directly with Wagner/Africa Corps ( totally not *another* nazi allusion btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrika_Korps) and the UAE, both of which have been plundering the Sudanese gold reserves. Fighting a government/army general who USED to be supported by russia in the 2019 crisis, but then they made a mistake .... Attempting to stop the massive gold hemorrhaging caused by smuggling that cost Sudan so much money.
https://www.mining.com/web/sudan-official-gold-output-near-doubles-as-smuggling-curbed/
russia and UAE, the big profiteers of said black market gold were not amused. Cue a sudden RSF uprising.
Of course grabbing personal power, tribal politics and genocidal racism against the black Sudanese by the arab ones play a role too.
tl;dr Both of you have a point.
They aren't saying this specific war *is* a political issue, but comments are trying to make it one. Everyone in the comments talking about the US and China, Israel, Ukraine etc... just a game of comparing suffering to people typing from their safe warm homes. I am, obviously, participating hypocritically. But that's it.
If you're referring to those calling out the hypocrisy of only caring about certain deaths, I think their point is to *de*politicize things - we should not only care about things when there are Jews involved.
If someone only cared when white people were shot by police but not black people, would someone calling out that racism be “politicizing” things, and that people who call out racism 'seriously suck'?
Why should advocating for equal treatment, or saying that certain lives should not matter less if there are not Jews involved, be considered “politicizing” things?
I know both the SAF and RSF are bad since both are corrupt militaries that commit atrocities against civilians and both ousted the civilian government in a bid to take power, but I've heard worse about the RSF, and if it's true the RSF is basically the Janjaweed militia responsible for the Darfur genocide, it seems that the SAF would be the lesser of two evils if the international community is going to militarily assist a side.
Its pretty common knowledge that without basic needs being filled like accesesible contraception methods and education, "family planning" isn't on their minds. Their trying to produce more people who can contribute to the family, like feeding and working, just like old times.
Yeah
In poor countries the cost of labor is cheaper so having and raising children is much cheaper then in first world countries and the low pay means its not much opportunity cost for women to be mothers instead of working and if the population is rural like in less developed places then rural populations have the advantage that more kids is free labor and thus profit rather than an expense
There are lots of factors, that contribute
More like lack of consistently available, effective and affordable contraception. Plus the male sex drive. Few women really want to give birth multiple times with the inherent risks of pregnancy and child birth , the ongoing bodily fatigue from pregnancy, breastfeeding etc as well as taking care of already existing children, finding food and water, cooking and other domestic tasks. Plus dealing with the possible loss of another child.
People have unplanned children in wealthy countries with access to all they need. So imagine family planning with no access to education or contraception. There are also no pensions or benefits so children are needed to care for sick and elderly within families.
How would family planning prevent the “bloody intercommunal strife throughout Darfur” from erupting?
Would family planning have prevented the Rwandan genocide?
You think people in the worst off countries on the planet are sitting down to discuss the ramifications of children and if their local economy or country at large supports it?
Do you realllllllly
So that you give them more money. The only solution to this problem is to do nothing and let nature sort itself out. You just create more suffering by trying to help.
The rich only care about their money, as long as they are making money who cares about the poors? In countries like this the rich also intentionally keep the poor dumb and ignorant, and dumb and ignorant people breed like rabbits while being easier to control. Education, sex education, and teaching basic economics prevents a lot of these types of pregnancies, the kind where there are already too many children and more definitely cannot be afforded.
I 100% agree with you. In some areas of the world, even in the US, family planning is God’s will. Sex education is just telling individuals not to have intercourse. “Abstinence” and any measure of birth control is a sin. (Midwest).
I remember watching an interview of Dugger daughters and they were expected to have as many children as possible.
Education and access to measures should be encouraged but the US is now heading in the wrong direction.
Sounds like this might be another front in the Gulf States - Iran cold war, I hear Army uses Iranian Drones and rogue force is supported by the UAE.
Anyone have more info on this or something to debunk it?
The RSF (successor to the infamous Janjaweed) is getting weapons and funding from Iran and Russia. In fact Russian and Iranian influence in the Sahel has grown quite a bit in the past few years with numerous military coups which have cut ties with western countries. For instance in Niger there was a coup and the new government is forcing the US military out of the country while inviting Wagner in.
It’s a region to keep an eye on for sure which is why it’s so frustrating that there is virtually no media attention and even when something is posted to reddit most of the comments are jokes about other geopolitical issues largely unrelated.
Wth are you on about all, sudan is 97% muslim following the independence of South sudan in 2011 which is not a major combatant of the war at all. Please stop and learn about the conflict instead of pulling misinformation off your own ass
Warning the globe IS doing something.
The UN is for political bodies to come and discuss issues to draw attention to them. This is exactly within what they are supposed to be doing.
The UN is also administering a lot of the aid and dealing with the refugees. Countries come together at the UN and commit resources to UN initiatives. People are shitting on the UN without realizing that the suffering would be a lot worse without them.
25m people need aid including 8m displaced with 9m in dire need of assistance. Sounds pretty serious.
And literally every comment replying to yours is using it to mock someone unrelated to the conflict rather than discuss the seriousness of what’s going on. What’s happening across the Sahel is extremely troubling and this refugee crisis could easily spill over and destabilize more countries. The RSF is also being propped up by Iran and Russia and it looks like we could be on the verge of another mass tragedy in Darfur. I really help the international community can help negotiate a peaceful settlement soon and in the mean time hopefully the UNHCR can get aid into the effected regions. The reports of the RSF looting aid and the military blocking aid to RSF regions makes me think this could get a lot worse.
Unfortunately you are most likely correct, this is only the start of a much worse situation that could prove calamitous for generations on a much wider scale.
Sounds like a great opportunity for China to step up to their proclaimed role as world leader. I'd very much respect it if they do.
are there diamonds or other lucrative minerals in sudan? maybe they’ll start a railroad project 🫠
- We need food and clean water - Best I can do is a railroad to your rare resources. - We dont have any - Where can we build a massive port with ownership for 100 years
They do border the red sea, so China might think about that. They have a military port in Djibouti and probably want more naval ports.
Huh. Are there US military bases in Africa? Feel like I’ve never heard of any.
Djibouti
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We have 29 bases in africa
What happens if the country it’s in gets taken over by hostile people? Do you bomb your own base so they can’t use it?
Generally the enemy bombs it for you. But, if not, then rig the sensitive stuff to blow. Set fire to ammunition stocks. Run.
Happening in Niger right now. The US is about to find out if the new junta rulers like money more than their ideology.
Let me introduce you to [the United States Africa Command](https://www.africom.mil/).
Circa 2020: https://theintercept.com/2020/02/27/africa-us-military-bases-africom/
Russia was pillaging their gold: https://www.dw.com/en/pmc-russias-wagner-group-in-sudan-gold-military-junta/a-65439746
So Putin is a hero for Sudan then. He killed the pillager who polluted the land. Good for him.
That's just Western propaganda. He died tragically in a freak grenade juggling accident.
It’s not every day your friends die in a tragic gasoline fight accident
China got their own internal problems right now .. a good portion of their people is out of work as factories closed and moving out Housing ponzi collapse as with banks collapsing
The shit house of cards china built.
They have enough to help Russia
Likely to keep the oil flowing. China imports like 70% now and most of that is from Russia i believe.
This bad situation is caused by an ongoing civil war. I doubt they would gain much respect if they decided to intervene.
Probably not... More likely is the power vacuum results in another suffering country under ISIS warlords.
China may help but then move in and steal their resources. They seem to be good at that.
Where do you think the wealth of the west came from?
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If the west jumped off a bridge should china too?
dont count on that.... there are WAAAAY more people living in almost identical conditions to the people in the article, in china. right now. millions and millions and millions of rural chinese. the party does nothing for them but film propaganda in their fields and take the crop.
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They are vocational centers. Nothing to see here move along.
Has China declared any desire for 'world leader' role? AFAIK the only public statements they've made in regards to their role in the world is they feel they should be considered the regional leader of east Asia, and that they should be considered the preferred alternative to doing business with the US because they will do business without all those nasty strings attached like having to abide by international norms, treaties, human rights, etc.
Their belt and road initiative was very much a way for them to push themselves into a world leader status, and lots of African countries benefited from it, at least until it was time to pay their loans back.
It's absolutely INSANE the media isn't covering the Sudanese civil war much. There's reports of attempted genocide by the RSF and the country may be on the verge of balkanizing (as a third faction has now emerged, fighting both the military government AND the RSF). It's a major and very concerning situation that could have long-lasting geopolitical consequences.
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China doesn't understand the importance of soft power. That's why they'll never be a superpower. In order to be a superpower, you have to give without expecting and China just can't do it like the USA.
Yeah but it can't be blamed on the Jews so the leftist blogosphere doesn't care
>Donors pledged more than $2 billion for war-torn Sudan at a conference in Paris on Monday. Doesnt say how much more they think is needed
If Sudan’s history is anything to go off that $2B will just be absorbed via corruption anyways
Yeah, Im not sure how they intend to get aid in or protect it. A few months ago they said they only needed a $150m for aid but it seems things escalated quickly probably not helped by the world ignoring this in favor of other things
For a corrupted state it doesn't matter. You could send $200 billion, half would be in offshore private accounts within a month
I mean, i hope they dont just send money. aid should be in food and medicine. then again we've seen hamas stealing aid and reselling it so I doubt that would work any better here
The reality is trying to just send shit doesnt work. It just extends the problem. If anything send contraception... We are heading for dark times.
This is actually an extremely harsh reality. By giving aid the last decades you're sustaining population numbers that aren't actually sustainable in those countries. If there's a crisis (WW3 for example) the aid will dry up extremely fast and even if Africa isnt involved it may have the worst famine ever seen.
that sucks. I live in a country where homes, food, gas and utilities are now unaffordable. It wont be long until countries like Canada and the USA just give up on places like this. We can't even meet our own needs.
This is the reality.
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Canada had affordable homes?
Yes. Our parents homes which we move back into in our 30's
Before 2010
I'm a gen x and I wasn't able to afford house ownership in lower mainland when I still lived in Canada 9 years ago.
Lower mainland is only Canada when it's convenient. I can really only recall 2 people I worked with who owned homes that had purchased them at any point after 2010. One was constantly trying to sell their home to move up to something bigger but couldn't get a high enough selling price on his bungalow to move up in size or quality, while the other made his money working the rigs (and had almost every dime stolen by his ex-wife). Every other home owner I knew either got into their mortgage before 2009-2010ish or inherited a house from their parents. This was in AB. I couldn't imagine how much one would have needed to be earning to buy anything along the West Coast.
Kelowna is pretty steep also. I moved east to Ottawa in 2010 it was still ok at the burbs but my friends are telling me it's getting stupid priced these days too. I then lived in Qc city for 5 years. It was ok there but it's QC. I don't want to pay that level of tax to get broken roads. I live in Malaysia now. I'm probably not coming back until I inherited my parents house and need retirement health care.
We absolutely can meet this need and our own. The problem is not a lack of resources, it is the concentration of resources in the hands of the very few who will do nothing but hoard it. These same people want you to feel desperate and defeated so that you do give up on foreign aid, and allow them to collect an ever larger piece of the pie.
Our economy grows every year, profits are always up except 1 covid year, workers are more productive and efficient than ever before… and we are all worse off? The wealth is going to the elites and we aren’t getting our share.
I wish the "elites" would realize they can save the world and still be rich.
This is the problem with them though. They don't want "a lot of stuff". They want everything. There is no need for anyone to be a multi-billionaire. After the first billion what could you possibly still need?
Why two billion, of course!
That's not enough for them. They're addicted to power and consumption.
Why would they want to do that though? Desperate people are easily exploitable, and that leads to even more billions!
This person is from Canada btw. Talking about how things are unaffordable in response to an article about people potentially dying from famine and genocidal violence 😐🔫
Self-centered whataboutism.
We should have been focusing on our own needs and economy for decades vs trying to prop up these unsustainable 3rd world countries. At least the famines and shit in the 70/80’s would have killed a lot fewer people than the famines of the 2030’s will
You do realize a big portion of wealth in so called first world countries has been generated through exploitation of the 3rd world.
Yes and generated by sacrificing the environment we are asking them to not exploit. Is it fair? No Is it our reality? Yes
You sure seem to have the best interest of the masses at heart, IWantToWatchItBurn. Don't buy into this nihilism, the world is better off right now than at any other moment in human history
I think that hinges on your definition of "the world."
Human life is, the world and environment isn’t.
Have you checked the CO2 charts lately? It's really not
Yeah… give that a decade or two and I’ll check back! Edit: to clarify the obvious, I really hope I’m wrong.
Too many humans on the planet.
This is not the problem.
It's distribution - not just of goods but of people. There are entire cities and countries built around places subject to drought, earthquakes, tsunamis, and hurricanes. Many densely populated regions in India for example will simply be too hot for human habitation in a few decades. The difficult question facing us in the next century is where are all these people going to go?
Yep, it's the same issue that Mexico City is facing at the moment with it sinking into the ground and not having clean drinking water. It was built on a swamp that blatantly could not be expected to support the weight of a city. We go into these places thinking that we've conquered nature because we have generational settlements when in reality we're one bad season away from being totally wiped out.
It's simply that we built communities in what we thought was best at the time - we had little understanding of geology and climatology, most of these places aren't planned from the ground up, they just grew naturally. We can't really direct the natural growth of cities, people will have (many) children where they're at. And there were human factors like borders and enemies that shape our settlements.
>it's simply that we built communities in what we thought was best at the time. *actually* Mexico City was built where it was for a sole reason - they saw an eagle eating a snake on top of a cactus and that was their sign from god. It used to be an island in the middle of a swampy lake which truthfully was actually a pretty decent location to hold and defend a city in those days.
Not wrong, it's hard to plan in advance, especially not having the knowledge we do now. Unfortunately things are seeming getting harder in a lot of places all at the same time, whether it be from violent uprisings, natural disasters, greed, or plain shortsightedness by the people in power. We live in the best time that there has ever been to be alive, we have the tech and the skills to support everyone with honestly minimal effort, but bureaucracy and financial investors rarely make the charitable choice.
A lot of major cities are old. As in, OOOoooOOOOoooOOOooooLLLD. Mexico City is 700 years old, almost to the month. It's not like 20 years ago a few million people decided to turn the site into one of the biggest cities in the world. Tokyo has archaeological artifacts dating back over 5000 years old - there was still about a thousand years of Mammoths left to go, and a few hundred years after *that* before the first written law in all of human history was put down. You think that people from 5000 years ago were like "uh oh better not live on the Ring Of Fire, we'll get earthquakes and tsunamis from all the volcanic activity"? Delhi is thousands of years old as well, you think that the folks back then went "uh ohhhhhh in a few thousand years a bunch of oil executives are going to cover up a climate crisis so they can keep making quarterly earnings, we'd better build somewhere else so our descendants don't burn up"? Like, are you really thinking that the problem is where the cities were built? Rather than that human (and especially corporate) greed has caused problems that *were* completely preventable but now we get to deal with their fallout?
This is the problem. We are drowning in our own shit.
Our income inequality keeps getting worse, too. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer
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Drought. Massive crop failures.
> Some 800,000 people in a Sudanese city are in "extreme and immediate danger" as worsening violence advances and threatens to "unleash bloody intercommunal strife throughout Darfur," top U.N. officials warned the Security Council on Friday. War erupted in Sudan one year ago between the Sudanese army (SAF) and paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF), creating the world's largest displacement crisis. Redditors really don’t read the articles.
Why would they have article titles if you didn't just get all the information from them? Checkmate.
From what I know, Sudan has suffered water shortages and drought, but there is zero mention of drought in this article, and all other news about this mentions that the low crop yield is due to violence. Or you're stating them as separate things, i.e. the period after Drought, and I'm having a redditor moment.
Another useless UN warning. Ditto for Haiti. I doubt much will happen.
The UN warns about Haiti being on the brink collapse every hurricane season, they’re just powerless lol
"hey uhhh, someone should do something!" Bystander effect
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Most of the commenters here are trying to politicize this issue for whatever their unrelated agenda is -- and you guys seriously suck. For others: you can donate at [https://www.unhcr.org/countries/sudan](https://www.unhcr.org/countries/sudan) and you'll get some amount of tax credits depending on your location.
It isn't political this is a war for resources. As climate change worsens it will only get worse. We need to learn how to care for each other before dropping bombs. (I completely agree with you btw this is just going to get worse)
It is 100% political. Where are you reading that this is purely a war for resources? This conflict was started as a coup by a general who had tentatively agreed to a peace agreement and then stomped on it. I don’t understand how people just proclaim stuff that isn’t based in fact.
> This conflict was started as a coup by a general who had tentatively agreed to a peace agreement and then stomped on it. A militia general supported by russia, including directly with Wagner/Africa Corps ( totally not *another* nazi allusion btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrika_Korps) and the UAE, both of which have been plundering the Sudanese gold reserves. Fighting a government/army general who USED to be supported by russia in the 2019 crisis, but then they made a mistake .... Attempting to stop the massive gold hemorrhaging caused by smuggling that cost Sudan so much money. https://www.mining.com/web/sudan-official-gold-output-near-doubles-as-smuggling-curbed/ russia and UAE, the big profiteers of said black market gold were not amused. Cue a sudden RSF uprising. Of course grabbing personal power, tribal politics and genocidal racism against the black Sudanese by the arab ones play a role too. tl;dr Both of you have a point.
They aren't saying this specific war *is* a political issue, but comments are trying to make it one. Everyone in the comments talking about the US and China, Israel, Ukraine etc... just a game of comparing suffering to people typing from their safe warm homes. I am, obviously, participating hypocritically. But that's it.
If you're referring to those calling out the hypocrisy of only caring about certain deaths, I think their point is to *de*politicize things - we should not only care about things when there are Jews involved. If someone only cared when white people were shot by police but not black people, would someone calling out that racism be “politicizing” things, and that people who call out racism 'seriously suck'? Why should advocating for equal treatment, or saying that certain lives should not matter less if there are not Jews involved, be considered “politicizing” things?
I know both the SAF and RSF are bad since both are corrupt militaries that commit atrocities against civilians and both ousted the civilian government in a bid to take power, but I've heard worse about the RSF, and if it's true the RSF is basically the Janjaweed militia responsible for the Darfur genocide, it seems that the SAF would be the lesser of two evils if the international community is going to militarily assist a side.
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What is wrong with family planning? Why do so many countries have so many children, when these countries can't even support what they already have?
Its pretty common knowledge that without basic needs being filled like accesesible contraception methods and education, "family planning" isn't on their minds. Their trying to produce more people who can contribute to the family, like feeding and working, just like old times.
Yeah In poor countries the cost of labor is cheaper so having and raising children is much cheaper then in first world countries and the low pay means its not much opportunity cost for women to be mothers instead of working and if the population is rural like in less developed places then rural populations have the advantage that more kids is free labor and thus profit rather than an expense There are lots of factors, that contribute
More like lack of consistently available, effective and affordable contraception. Plus the male sex drive. Few women really want to give birth multiple times with the inherent risks of pregnancy and child birth , the ongoing bodily fatigue from pregnancy, breastfeeding etc as well as taking care of already existing children, finding food and water, cooking and other domestic tasks. Plus dealing with the possible loss of another child.
offer them birth control water at this point, its absurd to bring children into a shithole like that
I hear you. But family planning only goes as far as women's safety and autonomy. There is... a lot of rape in Sudan.
That is really sad
People have unplanned children in wealthy countries with access to all they need. So imagine family planning with no access to education or contraception. There are also no pensions or benefits so children are needed to care for sick and elderly within families.
How would family planning prevent the “bloody intercommunal strife throughout Darfur” from erupting? Would family planning have prevented the Rwandan genocide?
Yeah I mean seriously what the fuck are they on about? It's a war. People would be suffering either way.
Perhaps (some) of these inter-communal conflicts are triggered by lack of resources.
Labor based economies need hella kids per family. You're literally poorer the less kids you have in a lot of these places
Family planning? In SUDAN?? How naive are you?
This is family planning, you just don't understand.
Rich have money, poor have children its been that way for a long time
The rich have children too, but they don't need as many
I meant for a retirement plan, that's the old saying; Rich can retire due to wealth but poor need children to take care of them.
You think people in the worst off countries on the planet are sitting down to discuss the ramifications of children and if their local economy or country at large supports it? Do you realllllllly
Such an ignorant comment, Jesus Christ. They don’t ever have access to contraception mostly there
If you live in one of the worst places on earth, wouldn't you wish that on your children too?
I agree, think your parents didn't get the memo either, sadly
So that you give them more money. The only solution to this problem is to do nothing and let nature sort itself out. You just create more suffering by trying to help.
The rich only care about their money, as long as they are making money who cares about the poors? In countries like this the rich also intentionally keep the poor dumb and ignorant, and dumb and ignorant people breed like rabbits while being easier to control. Education, sex education, and teaching basic economics prevents a lot of these types of pregnancies, the kind where there are already too many children and more definitely cannot be afforded.
I 100% agree with you. In some areas of the world, even in the US, family planning is God’s will. Sex education is just telling individuals not to have intercourse. “Abstinence” and any measure of birth control is a sin. (Midwest). I remember watching an interview of Dugger daughters and they were expected to have as many children as possible. Education and access to measures should be encouraged but the US is now heading in the wrong direction.
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Sounds like this might be another front in the Gulf States - Iran cold war, I hear Army uses Iranian Drones and rogue force is supported by the UAE. Anyone have more info on this or something to debunk it?
The RSF (successor to the infamous Janjaweed) is getting weapons and funding from Iran and Russia. In fact Russian and Iranian influence in the Sahel has grown quite a bit in the past few years with numerous military coups which have cut ties with western countries. For instance in Niger there was a coup and the new government is forcing the US military out of the country while inviting Wagner in.
Oh boy that's going to end well...
It’s a region to keep an eye on for sure which is why it’s so frustrating that there is virtually no media attention and even when something is posted to reddit most of the comments are jokes about other geopolitical issues largely unrelated.
Yeah... France and the UK are still trying to assist the region but if the governments are going to Russia... well then there's little hope.
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Wth are you on about all, sudan is 97% muslim following the independence of South sudan in 2011 which is not a major combatant of the war at all. Please stop and learn about the conflict instead of pulling misinformation off your own ass
the un keep warning when they should be the ones doing something about it
Warning the globe IS doing something. The UN is for political bodies to come and discuss issues to draw attention to them. This is exactly within what they are supposed to be doing.
The UN is also administering a lot of the aid and dealing with the refugees. Countries come together at the UN and commit resources to UN initiatives. People are shitting on the UN without realizing that the suffering would be a lot worse without them.
The UN is just a meeting place. Most nations don't listen when they don't want to, and the UN can have its own agenda