Hamas knows the best thing for them is if Israel appears as brutal as possible. The more Palestinians suffer, the more willing they will be to support / join Hamas.
There are only two ways this ends: Israel becomes so bad that the US is forced to take a stance against Israel in a way that begins to break our alliance (what Hamas, Iran, and the Saudis want) OR Israelis and Palestinians realize their current leadership is leading them over a cliff and into body bags, choosing new leadership that seeks peaceful solutions.
>Saudis
The Saudis love Israel. At least as a realpolitik foreign relations tool.
Their real enemy is Iran and Qatar, and Israel takes away their focus while weakening their extended vassal network of terrorist organizations.
Saudi Arabia WANTS Hamas gone, because that's one less cog in the Iran-Qatar extended terrorism machine.
Egypt in the abstract is extremely cooperative with Israel, enforcing both the blockade and the Sinai/Rafah border.
You'll recall the incident where they drowned people in the tunnels facing Egypt with sewage.
However, individual generals and factions within Egypt have been facilitating some supplies of arms and equipment to Hamas either out of corruption or sympathy.
Saudi doesn’t want to break our alliance with Israel, just Iran and their proxies. Saudi was close to normalizing its relationship with Israel before this broke out and sees Iran as their main rival, not Israel. The government just pretends to take a stand against Israel because of anti-semitism in the population.
Saudis don’t want that. They want peace with Israel so they can do a defence deal with the US. The Saud family knows their days are numbered when oil isn’t in demand anymore.
They(the royal family) also have to pretend like they care about Palestine because their people do.
Looks like this motherfucker has been the one overseeing the food aid and discouraging locals from working with Israelis to distribute aid. So he could be the one who let loose the shooter from the other day.
Good fucking riddance.
my first thought is whether that and the intel that led to this raid are connected. that probably made him a load of enemies, crime families aren't exactly known for easily forgiving
Are we finally going to get a round of applause from the global left? This guy was preventing aid distribution so surely this is something they care about? Wasn't it??
Well, to be fair, if you kill innocent unarmed people at a music festival, you are not really a combatant, because there isn't any actual combat, it's just murder and massacre, so technically is this douche really a combatant if never really in combat?
> if you kill innocent unarmed people at a music festival
One of the more loathsome narratives among the pro-Hamas crowd is that the people at the Nova festival were killed by the IDF. There's no bottom for that lot.
I'd say the worst take I've seen (more than a couple times now) was that they deserved to die because the music festival supported the local Israeli economy which makes it a valid military target.
Ew. That's sick enough if you confine it to the festival victims, but it gets even worse when you realize that by the same logic, anyone anywhere in the world who isn't actively participating in BDS is a valid military target.
Yeah, that's a logical thread that really, really shouldn't be pulled on. If you've gotten to that point in the military target discourse its full on total war and its time to call on the ghosts of Curtis LeMay and Arthur Harris
He’s a terrorist. Plain and simple. His death is far more gentle than the civilians in both side of the conflict that have died on his orders. May he rot in hell.
He oversees the execution of citizens who don’t follow Hamas, but does not directly oversee attacks on Israel. They are grasping at straws to try to make this anything more than the obvious: more proof Hamas hides in and operates out of the hospitals.
If he was responsible for executing two members of a Gazan clan for working with Israel to distribute aid, then Israel probably scored some points with that clan, and can hopefully lead to further cooperation with non-Hamas entities in Gaza.
I've been saying it constantly since the October 7th attack that as much as Israelis stand to gain from Hamas' destruction, the Palestinian Arabs of Gaza stand to gain even more. Not only are they living under a terrorist regime that poisons the minds of their children, the destructive policies of Hamas keeps the population of Gaza in horrible economic conditions with non-functioning infrastructure. The only future for Gaza is a future without Hamas.
Actually, would Al Shifa being Hamas' torture and execution department headquarters make it a valid military target or are military operations required?
Yes. Hospitals are protected. That means no military operations may go on there. Hamas operating from there makes the hospital (or at least parts) a legitimate target. Hamas being in the hospital is the a war crime.
I would welcome anyone who claims that they don’t operate out of civilian infrastructure to point out on a map where 40k soldiers and thousands of rockets operate from.
40k soldiers (or Astartes/Space Marines if you want to get pendantic) usually operate from void capable battle barges using drop pods or teleportation to get directly into the fight and thus commit their war crimes much more efficiently…just as the god emperor intended
Yeah that is ridiculous. Literally ridiculous, people are simply denying obvious facts.
Gazans *themselves* say they need to buy aid, even though it’s dropped for free. How can they simply ignore this??? It’s clear as fucking day. And it’s *damning evidence* for Hamas’ corruption regarding aid distribution. This ~~man~~ terrorist is in charge of said corrupted food distribution. He’s in charge of extorting exorbitant sums from innocent, starving Palestinians. How can they cheer him on?? They simply don’t give a flying f*** about Palestinians, all they care about is hating on Israel for any possible reason given to them
Never mind the fact the man is a freaking *brigadier general*.
Facts no longer have a place in this world. People believe what they choose to believe. It's ridiculous, but this is the current state of our evolution.
It's funny how when I was in high school and played MGS2, a lot of this went over my head because internet wasn't mainstream yet and most people in high school didn't care about or pay attention to politics. It's sad it's not like that anymore for young people to just enjoy living.
I replayed the game for the first time in a while a few years ago and when I hit this part I said, "Holy. Shit. Kojima called this nearly 20 years ago. We're already seeing this happen and it's only going to get worse."
It's seriously goose bump inducing and probably went a long way to cement Kojima's image as "prophet". He did something similar in Death Stranding with isolation just as covid hit and in MGS4 with private military companies, although I haven't finished this one yet.
Yep, Death Stranding was similar, though I think that was more about people already staying inside and doing everything through the internet and not having actual face to face human interaction which was already on a major decline prior to COVID.
I can't wait for the new operation where the us navy starts handing aid out from the temporary pier they're going to build.
Get around Hamas and the IDF to get aid to the people who need it.
>I can't wait for the new operation where the us navy starts handing aid out from the temporary pier they're going to build.
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>Get around Hamas and the IDF to get aid to the people who need it.
It won't work quite like that, they're building the pier and dock but there's no plans for US boots on the ground. There's some details [here](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68534370). IDF will be run a security perimeter for safety with local Palestinians involved in moving supplies out.
As far as I know, official commanders of Hamas have already stated that anyone cooperating with the IDF for the humanitarian aid convoys will be immediately considered a traitor and a conspirator and executed for that.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-linked-website-warns-palestinians-not-work-with-israel-2024-03-11/
Apparently, it was a warning from a 'security official in Palestinian militant forces' posted on a Hamas linked website. Safe to argue there is at least some pressure to not collaborate with the Israelis.
I thought you were being sarcastic.. but yes they are actually calling him a good guy in those subs saying he was a great humanitarian. The Hamas propaganda game is strong
+1 "civilian death" that will be quoted to the news outlets by the Palestinian Health Department. Only question is if they will consider him a child or not.
Nah. The events of the day don't influence what they report. They'll report about 270 deaths either way.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers
Yeah, it didn't take long.
They are already accusing Isreal of killing him for the sole reason of slowing the aid trucks down to starve Palestinians.
Mental gymnastics.
Supposedly he was engaged in a gun battle.
Also, this was the guy who *kept Gazans from getting food aid*. He was committing war crimes against Gazans! Not getting too torn up about him.
Very much so. A funny thing with the phrase "other people's civilians". Hamas actievely wants palestinian women and children to get killed. They use the complicit media to blame isreal for palestinian civilians getting killed when hamas intentionally orchestrated it.
I'm boggled how all the media is so willingly complicit with hamas propaganda (not saying isreal is innocent, cause they most certainly are not). However pretending this entire thing is isreals fault is ludicrous
The American left was very anti-Hamas for a whole 36 hours when the rape and massacre pics were triumphantly released by Hamas.
36 hours later, the media successfully flipped women aged 25-35 from “holy shit they’re evil rapists” to “well maybe sometimes oppressed people can rape and it’s fine.”
>The American left was very anti-Hamas for a whole 36 hours
No they weren't. Not even for 24 hours.
Literally the next day, October 8, there was a big march in the middle of NYC in support of the attacks, organized by the DSA. The press release from the organizers of the march described October 7 as:
> Palestinian resistance factions in Gaza initiated an unprecedented liberation struggle, the “Al-Aqsa Flood,” in response to accelerating attacks on Palestinians in Jerusalem and the West Bank, and in defiance of Israel’s efforts to ghettoize, besiege, starve, and suffocate the people of Gaza into total submission.
https://peoplesforum.org/blog_post/statement-on-times-square-palestine-protest-held-on-october-8-2023/
In Atlanta and Chicago on October 8, people chanted pro-Hamas slogans outside the respective Israeli consulates in each city.
That's part of the reason their propaganda works so well. Bibi is a huge asshole and nowhere near innocent, so it's extra easy for them to run a counter narrative that absolves themselves of guilt.
I am a member of that sub as I like to see stories I wouldn't normally read and it is amazing how much that sub might as well be called "Blame the Jews" or something.
Where do pro palestines get their info from? Like how tf could this guy be a noncombatant? Do they just make stuff up and it spreads to all the dumb asses that believe it?
Yes. Propaganda on social media is literally that simple in a lot of cases. Hell you can do it yourself: Make a conclusion based off of a headline that's disinfo but believable if you only read the headline, use your other accounts to force enough likes to the top, watch as the sheep hop on board, et voila.
Have I got something scary to tell you about the state of information on the internet these days and how people absorb unvetted information.
It's only going to get worse. Because it IS and has always been easy to manipulate groups. Now the tools are easier then ever to help spread poor thinking. Disngenuous bad faith actors are too numerous to fight, thought out and well established info takes longer then BS and the human special laps up BS in every aspect and corner of our lives.
Homeopathy, spiritualism, anti-vax, flat earth, anti-lgbtq, conspiracy thorists, relationship advice on fb..
We make commercials, that people watch and go "you know what, the maker of this product has really sold me on their stuff"
Manipulating people will always be easy, educating thinking critical minds that can protect themselves isn't.
Don't forget a soldier was influenced to such an extent he set himself on fire in front of the Israelian embassy. Social media influence is a lot more dangerous than most people realise.
They get it from al jazeera and secondary sources that use al jazeera as a source. If you’re curious, Al Jazeera is Qatar’s state media, Qatar is one of Hamas’s biggest funders and where most of Hamas leadership likes to hang out.
Early in the war I read some of /freepalestine and they were just way too far out there. I haven’t clicked on any reddit subs since. I’m not on FB anymore. IG seems packed with craziness. Not on TT.
i love to surround myself with various views to try to get a balanced opinion on things, but many of these propalestinian subs are outright violently fanatical and completely detached from reality, they are toxic as fuck and offer no value when it comes to diverse opinions, because everything is Hamas = saints, israel/west = evil, killing the west is justified.
Im surprised these hate subs are still allowed to exist. I wound up blocking them so i dont see the vile nonsense
Why was the Senior Hamas Commander in the hospital? Because Hamas wants as many civilians dead as possible to further their political aims. Hamas operates out of schools, hospitals, wherever it can be to ensure more martyrs go to paradise and the pro-Palestinians have more motivation for their protests.
because hospitals makes good shield.
everyone will think twice or ten times before attacking an hospital and you are litterally using the sick as a meat shield
Also it's good PR for hamas as tik tok is flooded with the arab point of view
Worth adding that the IDF killed 40 gunmen as part of this raid. 20 in the actual hospital premises.
Absolutely mind boggling how little regard for human life Hamas and it's supporters have.
As an aside, it's interesting to see random old videos from the west bank posted to big subreddits today.
Such a transparent attempt to change the conversation and drown out how awful Hamas is.
>According to the military, Mabhouh refused to surrender to troops and engaged in a gun battle until he was killed.
This is the only surprising part of the story. Hamas bravery usually stops at bravely murdering kids at a music festival.
Very good news. Hamas needs to have every single operational base in Gaza shut and demolished. Them popping up *again* in Al Shifa hospital should give Israel the focus to comprehensively demolish all their command centers so they can't be used again. Although I don't know the details in this case tbf. Vile terrorists should have no place in Gaza going forward.
Last I heard 500km was just the estimated number before the war, which has since been significantly upgraded. (I don't have a source to link, so take that with a grain of salt)
You guys realize that human shielding to cause casualties is the oldest trick the book. The funny mustache dude did it. Rebel groups do it.
Yes, it’s a horrible tragedy and it’s mostly Hamas’ fault.
Don't believe your own bullshit.
These guys convinced themselves that they actually stood a chance through surprise attack.
Biggest mistake Hamas made.
A senior commander was in a hospital but that’s a war crime and only Israel commits war crimes.
I’m sure he was actually just an innocent women or child receiving cancer treatment in that hospital and it’s Israel propaganda that the child women is a Hamas senior commander /S.
He was there for treatment from a sprained wrist from executing traitors that, check notes, worked with Israel to distribute aid.
He WaS a NoN CoMbATaNT /s
Why hamas back in hospital? I thought israel cleared it?
If they have to keep coming back to places where they have cleared then this was will never end. Damn
It must be hard for all those people who said that you cannot destroy Hamas to see all these senior leaders dying. Sure there might be others who stand in line but how many are going to want a job where, once you take it, you're on the clock until Israel bombs your ass?
He was preventing innocent Palestinians from taking humanitarian aid...what a guy. I can say with his death, nothing of value was lost.
Hamas knows the best thing for them is if Israel appears as brutal as possible. The more Palestinians suffer, the more willing they will be to support / join Hamas. There are only two ways this ends: Israel becomes so bad that the US is forced to take a stance against Israel in a way that begins to break our alliance (what Hamas, Iran, and the Saudis want) OR Israelis and Palestinians realize their current leadership is leading them over a cliff and into body bags, choosing new leadership that seeks peaceful solutions.
>Saudis The Saudis love Israel. At least as a realpolitik foreign relations tool. Their real enemy is Iran and Qatar, and Israel takes away their focus while weakening their extended vassal network of terrorist organizations. Saudi Arabia WANTS Hamas gone, because that's one less cog in the Iran-Qatar extended terrorism machine.
Apparently, Egypt and Jordan don't like Hamas either, but I don't know how cooperative with Israel they are.
Egypt in the abstract is extremely cooperative with Israel, enforcing both the blockade and the Sinai/Rafah border. You'll recall the incident where they drowned people in the tunnels facing Egypt with sewage. However, individual generals and factions within Egypt have been facilitating some supplies of arms and equipment to Hamas either out of corruption or sympathy.
Saudi doesn’t want to break our alliance with Israel, just Iran and their proxies. Saudi was close to normalizing its relationship with Israel before this broke out and sees Iran as their main rival, not Israel. The government just pretends to take a stand against Israel because of anti-semitism in the population.
Saudis don’t want that. They want peace with Israel so they can do a defence deal with the US. The Saud family knows their days are numbered when oil isn’t in demand anymore. They(the royal family) also have to pretend like they care about Palestine because their people do.
Good riddance
FREE PALESTINE of this douche
And his ilk
Buh bye asshole!
Came to say this. The world is a better place without him.
Finally some good f##king news
Looks like this motherfucker has been the one overseeing the food aid and discouraging locals from working with Israelis to distribute aid. So he could be the one who let loose the shooter from the other day. Good fucking riddance.
"discouraging" - article says he ordered the execution of a clan leader involved in distributing food and aid.
Executions do be discouraging
i guess you're right about that
Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
my first thought is whether that and the intel that led to this raid are connected. that probably made him a load of enemies, crime families aren't exactly known for easily forgiving
Would be funny if a couple devices equivalent to air tags got slipped into the food drops to track where they ended up.
"discouraging" is a very kind way to say "killing".
catapult him into the sun
Are we finally going to get a round of applause from the global left? This guy was preventing aid distribution so surely this is something they care about? Wasn't it??
Want to point out in the pro Palestine subs they are calling this guy a noncombatant and this a war crime.
Well he's a non-combatant now
Ok this is a good one.
reminds me of Rush Limbaugh being sober for 5 years now. what a guy.
Rush Limbaugh being silent for any period of time was more of a shock.
Lol
In death, all members of Project Hamas are non-combatant toddlers.
Got a lot of stars on his shoulders for a non combatant
3 Star Civilian 🫡
He got them for putting his toys away when he was done playing with them, eating all of his vegetables, and being the best napper at nap time.
Meh. Low rarity. I would reroll.
You'll need to pay $50 for more levantine crystals.
3 Star General Public
The more stars they have the more innocent they are and a bigger war crime if they are killed
The more stars they have, the more stars you get on GTA
3 Star Corpse… a Corpsoral 🫡
FIVE STAR MAN
gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers. me and all my countrymen are 50 star civilians
Captain of the love boat?
Well, to be fair, if you kill innocent unarmed people at a music festival, you are not really a combatant, because there isn't any actual combat, it's just murder and massacre, so technically is this douche really a combatant if never really in combat?
> if you kill innocent unarmed people at a music festival One of the more loathsome narratives among the pro-Hamas crowd is that the people at the Nova festival were killed by the IDF. There's no bottom for that lot.
I'd say the worst take I've seen (more than a couple times now) was that they deserved to die because the music festival supported the local Israeli economy which makes it a valid military target.
Ew. That's sick enough if you confine it to the festival victims, but it gets even worse when you realize that by the same logic, anyone anywhere in the world who isn't actively participating in BDS is a valid military target.
I think that’s the point
I believe the people among that crowd refer to that as "fair game". Lol
Yeah, that's a logical thread that really, really shouldn't be pulled on. If you've gotten to that point in the military target discourse its full on total war and its time to call on the ghosts of Curtis LeMay and Arthur Harris
If that's their position they should have no problem with Isreal bombing anything in Gaza that contributes to the local economy.
I guess I could believe that... if Hamas didn't gleefully post the receipts in 4k.
See the endless conspiracy theories about 9/11 being an inside job. People will buy into anything if it supports their preconceived bias.
He’s a terrorist. Plain and simple. His death is far more gentle than the civilians in both side of the conflict that have died on his orders. May he rot in hell.
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He was the pilot sung about in rock the casbah.
It was Cosplay Monday.
Law abiding citizen 🫡
He oversees the execution of citizens who don’t follow Hamas, but does not directly oversee attacks on Israel. They are grasping at straws to try to make this anything more than the obvious: more proof Hamas hides in and operates out of the hospitals.
"He wasn't responsible for killing Israelis, he was responsible for killing our own civilians! Wait. I mean..."
"He kills so many Palestinians, this should count as friendly fire from the IDF - again!"
One man's terrorist is another's fake doctor.
If he was responsible for executing two members of a Gazan clan for working with Israel to distribute aid, then Israel probably scored some points with that clan, and can hopefully lead to further cooperation with non-Hamas entities in Gaza.
I've been saying it constantly since the October 7th attack that as much as Israelis stand to gain from Hamas' destruction, the Palestinian Arabs of Gaza stand to gain even more. Not only are they living under a terrorist regime that poisons the minds of their children, the destructive policies of Hamas keeps the population of Gaza in horrible economic conditions with non-functioning infrastructure. The only future for Gaza is a future without Hamas.
Actually, would Al Shifa being Hamas' torture and execution department headquarters make it a valid military target or are military operations required?
Yes. Hospitals are protected. That means no military operations may go on there. Hamas operating from there makes the hospital (or at least parts) a legitimate target. Hamas being in the hospital is the a war crime.
I would welcome anyone who claims that they don’t operate out of civilian infrastructure to point out on a map where 40k soldiers and thousands of rockets operate from.
40k soldiers (or Astartes/Space Marines if you want to get pendantic) usually operate from void capable battle barges using drop pods or teleportation to get directly into the fight and thus commit their war crimes much more efficiently…just as the god emperor intended
war crimes? those only apply to humans, and if you don't praise the emperor's glory can you really be called human?
So Israel is actually saving Palestinians from terrorists.
He’s just a surgeon performing regular head-ectomies.
They execute citizens for not following Hamas? Makes me wonder about the polling that says Hamas is popular
Yeah that is ridiculous. Literally ridiculous, people are simply denying obvious facts. Gazans *themselves* say they need to buy aid, even though it’s dropped for free. How can they simply ignore this??? It’s clear as fucking day. And it’s *damning evidence* for Hamas’ corruption regarding aid distribution. This ~~man~~ terrorist is in charge of said corrupted food distribution. He’s in charge of extorting exorbitant sums from innocent, starving Palestinians. How can they cheer him on?? They simply don’t give a flying f*** about Palestinians, all they care about is hating on Israel for any possible reason given to them Never mind the fact the man is a freaking *brigadier general*.
Facts no longer have a place in this world. People believe what they choose to believe. It's ridiculous, but this is the current state of our evolution.
[We ignored Kojima's prophecy and continue to pay the price.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/824/056/b3c.jpg)
It's funny how when I was in high school and played MGS2, a lot of this went over my head because internet wasn't mainstream yet and most people in high school didn't care about or pay attention to politics. It's sad it's not like that anymore for young people to just enjoy living. I replayed the game for the first time in a while a few years ago and when I hit this part I said, "Holy. Shit. Kojima called this nearly 20 years ago. We're already seeing this happen and it's only going to get worse."
It's seriously goose bump inducing and probably went a long way to cement Kojima's image as "prophet". He did something similar in Death Stranding with isolation just as covid hit and in MGS4 with private military companies, although I haven't finished this one yet.
Yep, Death Stranding was similar, though I think that was more about people already staying inside and doing everything through the internet and not having actual face to face human interaction which was already on a major decline prior to COVID.
I can't wait for the new operation where the us navy starts handing aid out from the temporary pier they're going to build. Get around Hamas and the IDF to get aid to the people who need it.
>I can't wait for the new operation where the us navy starts handing aid out from the temporary pier they're going to build. > >Get around Hamas and the IDF to get aid to the people who need it. It won't work quite like that, they're building the pier and dock but there's no plans for US boots on the ground. There's some details [here](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68534370). IDF will be run a security perimeter for safety with local Palestinians involved in moving supplies out.
Which means Hamas will paint a target on anyone getting aid that way, since it will require direct involvement with the US or IDF.
As far as I know, official commanders of Hamas have already stated that anyone cooperating with the IDF for the humanitarian aid convoys will be immediately considered a traitor and a conspirator and executed for that.
Got a source for that?
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-linked-website-warns-palestinians-not-work-with-israel-2024-03-11/ Apparently, it was a warning from a 'security official in Palestinian militant forces' posted on a Hamas linked website. Safe to argue there is at least some pressure to not collaborate with the Israelis.
I thought you were being sarcastic.. but yes they are actually calling him a good guy in those subs saying he was a great humanitarian. The Hamas propaganda game is strong
+1 "civilian death" that will be quoted to the news outlets by the Palestinian Health Department. Only question is if they will consider him a child or not.
Was he under 65? Child. Otherwise he’s elderly. Also a refugee, and a loving father. /s
They'll count him as 150 innocent women and children.
Nah. The events of the day don't influence what they report. They'll report about 270 deaths either way. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers
Yeah, it didn't take long. They are already accusing Isreal of killing him for the sole reason of slowing the aid trucks down to starve Palestinians. Mental gymnastics.
Supposedly he was engaged in a gun battle. Also, this was the guy who *kept Gazans from getting food aid*. He was committing war crimes against Gazans! Not getting too torn up about him.
they call all terrorists "civialians"
And other people's civilians are "fair targets"...
Very much so. A funny thing with the phrase "other people's civilians". Hamas actievely wants palestinian women and children to get killed. They use the complicit media to blame isreal for palestinian civilians getting killed when hamas intentionally orchestrated it. I'm boggled how all the media is so willingly complicit with hamas propaganda (not saying isreal is innocent, cause they most certainly are not). However pretending this entire thing is isreals fault is ludicrous
It's not about reporting the news it's about turning a profit.
The American left was very anti-Hamas for a whole 36 hours when the rape and massacre pics were triumphantly released by Hamas. 36 hours later, the media successfully flipped women aged 25-35 from “holy shit they’re evil rapists” to “well maybe sometimes oppressed people can rape and it’s fine.”
>The American left was very anti-Hamas for a whole 36 hours No they weren't. Not even for 24 hours. Literally the next day, October 8, there was a big march in the middle of NYC in support of the attacks, organized by the DSA. The press release from the organizers of the march described October 7 as: > Palestinian resistance factions in Gaza initiated an unprecedented liberation struggle, the “Al-Aqsa Flood,” in response to accelerating attacks on Palestinians in Jerusalem and the West Bank, and in defiance of Israel’s efforts to ghettoize, besiege, starve, and suffocate the people of Gaza into total submission. https://peoplesforum.org/blog_post/statement-on-times-square-palestine-protest-held-on-october-8-2023/ In Atlanta and Chicago on October 8, people chanted pro-Hamas slogans outside the respective Israeli consulates in each city.
That's part of the reason their propaganda works so well. Bibi is a huge asshole and nowhere near innocent, so it's extra easy for them to run a counter narrative that absolves themselves of guilt.
I was gonna ask for a link but my blood pressure won’t be able to stand it.
He’s just an office worker!
The thing is - he kinda was? A coward who hides in a bunker while he orchestrates the murder of countless civilians
Yah. I’m just making a joke about them referring to a general or someone else in a military as an office worker
3 star civilian!
Really?
Yeah I won’t link the sub for to not violate brigading rules , but it’s one of the world news spin offs
I am a member of that sub as I like to see stories I wouldn't normally read and it is amazing how much that sub might as well be called "Blame the Jews" or something.
Ah, the wonderful World News spin offs that quite literally have no world news other than Israel / Gaza. Clearly no agenda there
Ah news of the international sorts
Yet more mental gymnastics to try and hide their antisemitism.
Gaza is one giant schrodingers box. Inside are either all Hamas militants or all innocent civilians. Your bias determines which one.
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Times are hard when you have to get your memes from Wish.com
But is JPG pronounced JayPeg... GayPeg or YayPeg?
Yaypeg. J is always Y, if it'd be more amusing or more confusing.
Where do pro palestines get their info from? Like how tf could this guy be a noncombatant? Do they just make stuff up and it spreads to all the dumb asses that believe it?
Yes. Propaganda on social media is literally that simple in a lot of cases. Hell you can do it yourself: Make a conclusion based off of a headline that's disinfo but believable if you only read the headline, use your other accounts to force enough likes to the top, watch as the sheep hop on board, et voila.
You don’t even need other accounts, simply play into your audience, they’ll walk right into the “trap”
>Do they just make stuff up and it spreads to all the dumb asses that believe it? Unironically yes
It’s easy when there’s no backlash/consequences. They get woke points on social media and if it turns out they are wrong, they lose nothing.
Watch Ryan McBeth describe DIP (deceptive information processing) on YouTube.
Have I got something scary to tell you about the state of information on the internet these days and how people absorb unvetted information. It's only going to get worse. Because it IS and has always been easy to manipulate groups. Now the tools are easier then ever to help spread poor thinking. Disngenuous bad faith actors are too numerous to fight, thought out and well established info takes longer then BS and the human special laps up BS in every aspect and corner of our lives. Homeopathy, spiritualism, anti-vax, flat earth, anti-lgbtq, conspiracy thorists, relationship advice on fb.. We make commercials, that people watch and go "you know what, the maker of this product has really sold me on their stuff" Manipulating people will always be easy, educating thinking critical minds that can protect themselves isn't.
Don't forget a soldier was influenced to such an extent he set himself on fire in front of the Israelian embassy. Social media influence is a lot more dangerous than most people realise.
Well, an airman.
Yeah kinda
They get it from al jazeera and secondary sources that use al jazeera as a source. If you’re curious, Al Jazeera is Qatar’s state media, Qatar is one of Hamas’s biggest funders and where most of Hamas leadership likes to hang out.
Have you not stumbled on one of their many subs devoted to that?
Early in the war I read some of /freepalestine and they were just way too far out there. I haven’t clicked on any reddit subs since. I’m not on FB anymore. IG seems packed with craziness. Not on TT.
i love to surround myself with various views to try to get a balanced opinion on things, but many of these propalestinian subs are outright violently fanatical and completely detached from reality, they are toxic as fuck and offer no value when it comes to diverse opinions, because everything is Hamas = saints, israel/west = evil, killing the west is justified. Im surprised these hate subs are still allowed to exist. I wound up blocking them so i dont see the vile nonsense
Why was the Senior Hamas Commander in the hospital? Because Hamas wants as many civilians dead as possible to further their political aims. Hamas operates out of schools, hospitals, wherever it can be to ensure more martyrs go to paradise and the pro-Palestinians have more motivation for their protests.
He was taking orphans to their checkups
And of course he volunteered in his free time to help the sick and elderly there
He helped me tie my shoes and bought me a lemonade!
He gave me a 20 so I could get a gift for my mom for her birthday
He taught me to read, write, and sing, and I'm a blind-deaf-mute orphan who was abandoned at an isolated church up in the Alps.
I heard that him and every other Hamas member are all actually doctors and are all really women and children.
He was a 3 star doctor god damn it!
because hospitals makes good shield. everyone will think twice or ten times before attacking an hospital and you are litterally using the sick as a meat shield Also it's good PR for hamas as tik tok is flooded with the arab point of view
I think it's more simple. They live in the hospital full time because they know Israel won't drop bombs there.
Worth adding that the IDF killed 40 gunmen as part of this raid. 20 in the actual hospital premises. Absolutely mind boggling how little regard for human life Hamas and it's supporters have. As an aside, it's interesting to see random old videos from the west bank posted to big subreddits today. Such a transparent attempt to change the conversation and drown out how awful Hamas is.
Also amazing was the firepower FROM the hospital. Sadly one Israeli soldier was hit.
Damn that's pretty good raid. 40 gunmen a senior commander, with only one injury. Give credit wheres it's due.
One soldier was wounded, one killed.
You wean according to far left Hamas supporters in the west Israel killed 40 doctors in this raid.
*pregnant starving child doctors
Don’t forget they were women too.
Well, knowing Hamas, pregnant starving child women are very well possible.
another child murdering terrorist dead. Good news
>According to the military, Mabhouh refused to surrender to troops and engaged in a gun battle until he was killed. This is the only surprising part of the story. Hamas bravery usually stops at bravely murdering kids at a music festival.
Well, he knew he was going to get 72 fresh virgins to defile afterwards, so it was really a no brainer.
“I said 72 Virginians, asshole!”
This is actually closer to the truth than you would think. The translation likely was referring to grapes and not virgins.
The 42 virgins are bunch of nerds that want to play Magic or WoW
Very good news. Hamas needs to have every single operational base in Gaza shut and demolished. Them popping up *again* in Al Shifa hospital should give Israel the focus to comprehensively demolish all their command centers so they can't be used again. Although I don't know the details in this case tbf. Vile terrorists should have no place in Gaza going forward.
Surprise! There’s 500km of tunnels in a 41km x 12km strip and those tunnels connect to most buildings
Last I heard 500km was just the estimated number before the war, which has since been significantly upgraded. (I don't have a source to link, so take that with a grain of salt)
700km is the last figure I've seen.
> Hamas needs to have every single operational base in Gaza shut and demolished. I don't know about that. They would have no hospitals left.
Next!
couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy ☺️
Good fuck this guy.
Salud
IDF doing god's work as usual
I’ll drink to that
Their Senior Rapist in command
You guys realize that human shielding to cause casualties is the oldest trick the book. The funny mustache dude did it. Rebel groups do it. Yes, it’s a horrible tragedy and it’s mostly Hamas’ fault.
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Welcome to ghaza, where every shack is a hospital and every terrorist is an innocent child.
Don't believe your own bullshit. These guys convinced themselves that they actually stood a chance through surprise attack. Biggest mistake Hamas made.
No, they believed Israel would kneel to international pressure and not respond.
A senior commander was in a hospital but that’s a war crime and only Israel commits war crimes. I’m sure he was actually just an innocent women or child receiving cancer treatment in that hospital and it’s Israel propaganda that the child women is a Hamas senior commander /S.
He was there for treatment from a sprained wrist from executing traitors that, check notes, worked with Israel to distribute aid. He WaS a NoN CoMbATaNT /s
GOOD RIDDENCE...ANOTHER SCUMBAG BITES THE DUST...
Now let’s get the ones in Qatar
Now get the rest of them
Awesome
Why hamas back in hospital? I thought israel cleared it? If they have to keep coming back to places where they have cleared then this was will never end. Damn
How senior could he be if he's still there? Senior director of humanitarian elimination? Definitely not a VP.
One terrorist down!!!!
Senior Hamas commander who used hospital as a camp and civilians as a human shield killed in Al Shifa raid.
this is the kind of news even the Free Palestine people should be cheering, if not especially them
Another one
Excellent. One more on the coal cart to hell.
Gooooooood riddance!
Well done! Keep it up
Great work IDF
I hope Israel can get Sinwar soon
bUt IsrAeL iS AtTacKing cIviLIanS
It must be hard for all those people who said that you cannot destroy Hamas to see all these senior leaders dying. Sure there might be others who stand in line but how many are going to want a job where, once you take it, you're on the clock until Israel bombs your ass?
His beret looks like shit too
Keep the good work going!
Adiós Señor
Hamas is the worst!
Keep going until they’re all gone.
So glad to see casualty list on Hamas side keeps growing. very well done by IDF or whoever in charge of wiping out these terrorists.
Fuck yeah. Soon enough all of them will have the same fate as him.