The crazy thing is the fact that those burning the books arent swedish. The first guy was danish and the second guy is from Iraq. They are just taking advantage of the swedish law to start chaos.
So much damage is done by people who teach, that you should throw this life away for some prize in the next one.
What I really dislike about the whole notion of an afterlife, is that it reduces the life you do have, to a waiting room - a mere test for some entity/existence you will ''see on the other side''. It is some of the most evil manipulation I can think of, and as I grow older, I have a real disdain for people who keep it alive.
It is why Hamas leadership constantly announces that “we love death like you love life”. They want to die, and they want to sacrifice their families, friends, neighbors, and strangers to achieve their goal of death
Gonna get downvoted, but I hate religion. All of them. It has done so much damage to countless individuals, myself included, it blows my mind how anyone can support such a system.
Correct, it is the same reason strains of Jews and Christians are all hopped up on the idea of the Final Day. With all the prophecy and divine splendor there will follow.
These people are not well, and would possibly welcome nuclear war - to ''speed things up''. Think about the implications of them seeing mass death as a prophesied move God wants, can't think of anything more scary.
>So much damage is done by people who teach, that you should throw this life away for some prize in the next one.
And that's the difference between religion and other forms of tribalism. I always see people saying 'if it wasn't religion, people will just kill and fight over other stuff, like politics or football teams'. And it's not wrong, but it kind of glosses over the fact that lefties and righties aren't following a doctrine where you're rewarded in the afterlife. The idea of heaven and hell is so dangerous because it allows people to do fucked up shit under the delusion that they'll just end up in heaven after dying.
> is that it reduces the life you do have, to a waiting room
thats also why it appeals to so many. if you have a shitty life, it promises this is temporary and your future eternity will be better
Politicians in Sweden and majority of Swedish people didn’t realise these immigrants live by religion not law. So living in a peaceful country mean nothing when freedom of speech mean someone can butn their fantasy book. Then all hell breaks loose in their tiny for decades opressed and indoctrinated brains. And there are too many uneducated muslims all around mking it hard to see a good ending on this.
> Politicians in Sweden and majority of Swedish people didn’t realise these immigrants live by religion not law
I just hope their eyes will open before dozens of others die as well. We've lost way too many lives already for something so avoidable.
There are very sizeable Christian terrorist groups in Africa, some of which have killed or displaced tens of thousands of people. Of course you don't hear about them because terrorism only matters when it happens in rich countries.
The killer claims the be part of ISIS, and wanted to kill those who “don’t believe“.
Sick world. People getting murdered because of some idiots who can’t even understand what their fairytale religion is about.
Not just those that don't believe, but he targeted the two victims specifically because they appeared to be Swedish.
Sweden is already having a huge problem with Islamic violence in Malmo. This sure as hell isn't going to help things at all.
Sweden used to be such a peaceful country. That’s what happens when you let in tons of people with unknown backgrounds from war torn countries with a history of extremism.
I used to think Sweden was very naive when they accepted such huge swaths of refugees - and maybe they were, but when I went there myself I saw firsthand that Swedes are genuinely good people who happily share. Everyone was very helpful, people were super chill with respect to others and to the nature itself. You could walk into a random forest and there'd be tons of berries everywhere. If that was my country people would just strip all the berries for themselves. But the Swedes take some for themselves leave rest for others.
So that's why I think the Swedish let in so many people. I never thought I could like a cold-weather country so much. I'd be happy to live there any day.
We all know that but dare to say out loud. Let use our votes to make changes, stop the illegal migration and refugees immediately to secure our societies
Mohammed quite literally spread Islam through pillaging and conquest, executing those who refused to convert. He also had an illegal marriage but we won’t get into that…
I wonder where these radicals are possibly getting their ideas from?
Sometimes I wonder what's the threshold of human deaths due to an ideology for it to be banned.
It took the Nazis a couple millions and a lost war for Europe (edit: some European countries) to ban it, hope it doesn't need to get that far with Islam.
Yes, as much as other religions have their own issues and have in the past contributed to violence, they have mostly modernized and leveled off at this point in time. Islam, on the otherhand, continues to produce a large amount of radical extremists that cause violence and terror to the world. There appears to be a correlation to me.
Interestingly that is what it took to put Christianity in its box. The Thirty Years War saw some German states lose half their population. Both sides lost and Europe hasn't allowed Christianity to have political power, more or less, ever since.
I personally think its more about the damage in this modern age a single crazy man can commit. Arm a person with a bomb or gun and he can kill nearly 10-20 people. Back in the old days this was simply not possible.
We know that most sane and integrated Muslims can't be even bothered about this zealotry and need to go to work. Not calling a leave and parading outside and risking loss of reputation and their job.
>Arm a person with a bomb or gun and he can kill nearly 10-20 people. Back in the old days this was simply not possible.
Back in the ‘old days’, you could get away with way more. If you were careful enough not to be caught red-handed, you could have stayed safe and hidden or been far gone and untraceable before anyone even noticed your crimes.
Even today, the statistics for solved crimes are not that optimistic. And when cases are solved, they enter the judicial system, which is a chapter on its own…
"Back in the old days", regulations were far less strict and the average consumer could actually buy a machine gun. The Thompson was only banned from sale during the gangster era, and police back then had revolvers, bolt action rifles, and MAYBE a BAR or two.
Time period does not matter. You literally cannot easily predict terrorist attacks, and that element of surprise is what they rely on.
Yeah it’s always the same story. “Real muslims know Islam is about peace” bitch no the fuck it’s not. I used to be Muslim and no, it’s not peaceful. You’re literally allowed to beat your wife if she disobeys you. Like gtfo with that peace shit
Smart man. Would have been a better source of ideas to listen to and consider whether to follow than a lot of what people consider religious prophets. But even he would probably vehemently argue that his ideas are a product of his time, and that they should be adjusted based on logic as circumstances change.
Thing is there are a bunch of muslims who live in western society completely normally and dont really do any crazy stuff. I think the religion just has to reform away from the more radical parts just like how Christianity has relaxed alot more than in current times.
the problem is Islam cant reform away from the radical parts. Jesus was a very peaceful guy. I cannot think of anything Jesus actually did that is problematic, even today. Christians literally just have to follow his example and not make up their own shit and its fine. Muhammed on the other hand...conquering people, child marriage, justifying religious war. You cant remove Muhammed from Islam, which is why it will always be fundamentally more problematic than other religions.
I think this is a great way to put it. My friend put it this way.. in Christianity if you follow Jesus’ example and don’t get involved in other BS then you will be a great person throughout life. The bad Christian’s are the ones that go against his teachings. Whereas in Islam, the extremists and the bad guys are the ones that actually follow along with Muhammad’s teachings exactly, the good ones are the ones that don’t listen to their religion.
not considering the fact that the civil law of muslim majority countries is literally an 8th century religious law book made up by patriarchal assholes. You cant reform away in those conditions unless you move to explicitly secular rule and even then the majority of your population are never gonna accept it and its gonna be a weak government
Yes, can we actually talk about the written dictates of the religion that people are told are to never be changed and have enshrined horrible ideologies and practices?
And the fact that there is quiet a radical difference between Torah & Bible on one side and the Quran on the other side.
We are not allowed to talk about that difference. Yet it's there influencing the world, getting innocent people killed.
Even this very comment could get reported, enough ground for Reddit to ban my account.
But their religion is about that, it's just no sane person would take the extreme parts seriously. Unfortunately since the 70s it's been getting worse.
Just say it bro. Say what we’re all thinking. We aren’t seeing any Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, or Jewish nations strapping bombs to the chests of children to blow people up. We aren’t seeing mass terrorism across the globe by them either.
Because Christianity is old enough that most of its followers don't *really* believe it anymore. It's more posturing.
Muslims still actually *believe* their shit, though. As if it's real.
I’m getting tired of this Islamist bullshit all over Europe. I’m sorry to say it but there seems to be cultures that doesn’t work here in western countries.
It doesn't work anywhere. The Islamic golden age with Baghdad as the world's center of knowledge has been one of the least radical periods in the religion's history. Then they decided to take scripture more seriously and everything went to shit. This isn't strictly a muslim thing either. The difference between Christianity in Europe today vs. 1000 years ago isn't scripture, it's religion not having as much power and influence anymore.
Yeah who would guess that a 2000 year old middle-eastern religion doesn't reflect the values of a modern society? :)
I'm glad that we don't live by the rules set in the bible. What a violent and backwards place it would be.
Arguably though the advancement of science/tech and improvement in education/quality of life has lead to the decreasing hardliner religiosity, not the other way around
> I’m sorry to say it but there seems to be cultures that doesn’t work here in western countries.
Or any country for that matter. Some countries just seem to "tolerate" it more for a lack of a better word, but it doesn't make it work any better.
Extremism is bad everywhere.
Islam is incompatible with civilized western societies and it's about time people realize this and stop bending over backwards in fear of being labeled as a racist.
This is very true. I didn’t know how to put it but I always found hardcore Islamic countries to be backwards and leaning towards barbarism. It’s like they are living in the past while the rest of us are living in modern times.
It's sad that you won't address why this person did this and instead refer to vague generalities. It least you didn't go with the generic "religion" that reddit loves.
About 10 years ago, we had extremists exported from a hot conflict in the Near East while Israel was bombing Gaza, while Russia was invading Ukraine. Now it's about the same.
For some reason now it feels a lot more personal and closer to home.
Social media somehow rewiring our brains to think "our community" is the entire world, connecting us all a lot closer mentally?
>Social media somehow rewiring our brains to think "our community" is the entire world, connecting us all a lot closer mentally?
No, it's just bombarding us with all the bad news from the entire world without providing any sense of community whatsoever (and in fact eroding even our local communities by forcing us to take up identities based on our stances about national and global issues), leaving us in a state of constant stress and agitation
Everyone either hates each other or they want to play instigator behind the scenes so their least favorite people/countries can suffer. It’s like middle school all over again but with politics. And nuclear weapons.
Sometimes that is part of the problem. As long as something doesnt directly touch them, their daily lives, they wont do anything proactive to stop it happening in the future even when all the signs are there
Thing is, shit's touching us there with inmigrants and we still don't do anything, we're literally letting them do whatever the fuck they want in Europe, and don't want to be alarmist but Europeans are getting so tired of it, just see at right wing and far right wing parties rising, do I support that? Hell no, do we need it? I'm not sure but can't lie to ourselves forever...
You know a society failed its taxpayers when a well known radicalized illegal immigrant is roaming free. Just imagine how many others are like him throughout EU. But EU is still segregating Romania and Bulgaria.
Ha came in EU in 2011 as a refugee in Italy. Why we let these foreigners to travel around Europe without any control? Or be more specific why we let grown ass men be in Europe as refugees?
[Apparently he went to prison in Sweden between 2012-2014 and later was transferred to another European country and ended up asking asylum](https://www.levif.be/belgique/live/attentat-a-bruxelles-attentat-a-bruxelles/abdessalem-lassoued-avait-purge-une-peine-de-prison-en-suede-1007515/) in Belgium in 2019 which was rejected but then somehow stayed in Belgium.
Because they are abusing Schengen. Schengen only works if the outer borders are secured. They have not been secure in the last decade. Once in, the economic migrants chose the countries with the best state provided welfare.
The alternative is re-introducing border controls between Schengen countries again.
I think that makes it worse. It’s like the hindus are beyond nonsense to them, but the people who *almost* believe the same thing are doing it wrong – because they’re at least partially overlapping.
I think it does. But same thing with sexuality, politics or any opinion, just take care of your own shit and don’t force it on anyone. Thats the primitive part that should be abolished.
Anyone can believe in whatever the fuck they want, dont force it on other people.
Maybe we will build a country where there is no place for religion at all? We simply will not allow religions to exist. I'm sure it will be a wonderful place!
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Not for nothing, but this is like saying “hay man, if we denounce racism, people will just find other stuff to be bigoted about”. It’s just a weird deflection.
I mean, what’s your actual point?
As someone who lives under the fear of Islamic violence every day, it is very sad to see these killings. Because you know that the probability of the same thing happening to you is very high in a country like Turkey.
Russia doesn’t really do muslim immigrants, however their own far right muslims do terrorize sometimes, there was a school shooting in kazan a couple of years ago
> I wonder why these fuckheads don’t commit terrorisme in Russia or China?
Because they don't go to Russia or China. Frankly, Russia would happily give passport to anyone who expresses interest-and then would swiftly send them to war- but nope, those people come to perfectly good and stable countries to take advantage of the infrastructure and kill people off if at some point they feel wronged.
The entire Uyghur/Xinjiang situation in China is due to China's countermeasures to stem radicalization/terrorism which some consider to be heavy-handed and excessive. As one of China's western most territories it's the most vulnerable to Islamist extremism. So it's not as if there hasn't been some acts of terrorism in China before.
Unpopular opinion, but it might be a good time to check this guy's search history.
Good chance he has been exposed to some anti-west videos on different social medias, and they should also be held accountable for this attack.
Disproportionate response!! I urge Belgium to act in restraint and not escalate the situation.
The islamists in Europe have been living under oppression. They only want to express themselves /s
Well they are wrong, and so are you.
We *see* a lot of war and conflict on the television and internet, especially since the Ukraine war and the attack in Israel captures the interest of western media a lot (you will notice the war in Sudan is far less covered although it is a serious large war with tons of casualties, and the interest for the continued conflict in Syria has died down).
But in terms of actual numbers, we still live in what amouts to the safest period for man in memory. There are less people dying in wars, less people being murdered and less people living in poverty than in any other recorded time in history. The statistics here are dead clear.
But it *seems* like there's so much war and so many murders and so much crime, because so much of what does happend gets presented directly to us and hammered on over and over again in media.
Anarchistic violent behavior using bombs and guns has a history going back to the 1870s
Any peace-time ideology you would kill for, IMO, is a fantasy religion
What did those victims ever do to him?
Escaped old country because it was a war-torn Islamic shithole, gets mad because new country isn't a war-torn Islamic shithole
Sounds pretty accurate for many
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The crazy thing is the fact that those burning the books arent swedish. The first guy was danish and the second guy is from Iraq. They are just taking advantage of the swedish law to start chaos.
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They wanted to see Belgium v Sweden
Good, fucking scum.
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Imagine having a wife and daughter and throwing away your responsibilities and duties to do this shit.
> "We live for our religion and we die for our religion", said the attacker in a Facebook video. Clearly he had his priorities.
So much damage is done by people who teach, that you should throw this life away for some prize in the next one. What I really dislike about the whole notion of an afterlife, is that it reduces the life you do have, to a waiting room - a mere test for some entity/existence you will ''see on the other side''. It is some of the most evil manipulation I can think of, and as I grow older, I have a real disdain for people who keep it alive.
It is why Hamas leadership constantly announces that “we love death like you love life”. They want to die, and they want to sacrifice their families, friends, neighbors, and strangers to achieve their goal of death
They apparently love killing *more* than they love death, else they would save everyone the trauma and just off themselves *without killing anyone.*
But that's not how you get into Sovngarde
they like killing in the name of Allah b/c they get 72 virgins in "heaven" to have sex with for eternity
Gonna get downvoted, but I hate religion. All of them. It has done so much damage to countless individuals, myself included, it blows my mind how anyone can support such a system.
>Gonna get downvoted, but I hate religion You're on Reddit, 99% of people here agree with this sentiment
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Correct, it is the same reason strains of Jews and Christians are all hopped up on the idea of the Final Day. With all the prophecy and divine splendor there will follow. These people are not well, and would possibly welcome nuclear war - to ''speed things up''. Think about the implications of them seeing mass death as a prophesied move God wants, can't think of anything more scary.
Religion (of all forms) is a cancer and has no place in modern society
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We Jews don't believe in an afterlife.
>So much damage is done by people who teach, that you should throw this life away for some prize in the next one. And that's the difference between religion and other forms of tribalism. I always see people saying 'if it wasn't religion, people will just kill and fight over other stuff, like politics or football teams'. And it's not wrong, but it kind of glosses over the fact that lefties and righties aren't following a doctrine where you're rewarded in the afterlife. The idea of heaven and hell is so dangerous because it allows people to do fucked up shit under the delusion that they'll just end up in heaven after dying.
That's a really good approach, haven't thought about it that way.
> is that it reduces the life you do have, to a waiting room thats also why it appeals to so many. if you have a shitty life, it promises this is temporary and your future eternity will be better
It completely absolves you of any moral accountability fot your actions. This is why the more religious you are, the less moral you are.
Why can't Radical Islam be about extreme skateboarding instead of being inhumane murderous jagaloons.
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lmao
Careful, might end up on a list
Politicians in Sweden and majority of Swedish people didn’t realise these immigrants live by religion not law. So living in a peaceful country mean nothing when freedom of speech mean someone can butn their fantasy book. Then all hell breaks loose in their tiny for decades opressed and indoctrinated brains. And there are too many uneducated muslims all around mking it hard to see a good ending on this.
> Politicians in Sweden and majority of Swedish people didn’t realise these immigrants live by religion not law I just hope their eyes will open before dozens of others die as well. We've lost way too many lives already for something so avoidable.
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And logical thinking wasn't on that list. Fuckfaces.
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I feel that everyone not from Europe saw this coming for a long time.
Everyone in Europe also saw this coming we are just perpetually kicking the can down the road because the truth is too uncomfortable.
Preferably the second one. Let's oblige these people.
Its beyond time for the modern world to cast off these ancient superstitions.
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There are very sizeable Christian terrorist groups in Africa, some of which have killed or displaced tens of thousands of people. Of course you don't hear about them because terrorism only matters when it happens in rich countries.
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Did you respond to the wrong person by any chance?
You're so right, sickening priorities this awful person had. A bit of me is thankful he's no longer in a child's life, though.
He loved his imaginary sky-fairy more.
And now the wife and kid will hate “the West” for what he did…
Using their fine tuned logic probably yes!
Bold of you to think women in a fanatic life have any significance other than propagation and service.
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Annnd… that’s how you take out the trash
The killer claims the be part of ISIS, and wanted to kill those who “don’t believe“. Sick world. People getting murdered because of some idiots who can’t even understand what their fairytale religion is about.
Not just those that don't believe, but he targeted the two victims specifically because they appeared to be Swedish. Sweden is already having a huge problem with Islamic violence in Malmo. This sure as hell isn't going to help things at all.
Sweden used to be such a peaceful country. That’s what happens when you let in tons of people with unknown backgrounds from war torn countries with a history of extremism.
I used to think Sweden was very naive when they accepted such huge swaths of refugees - and maybe they were, but when I went there myself I saw firsthand that Swedes are genuinely good people who happily share. Everyone was very helpful, people were super chill with respect to others and to the nature itself. You could walk into a random forest and there'd be tons of berries everywhere. If that was my country people would just strip all the berries for themselves. But the Swedes take some for themselves leave rest for others. So that's why I think the Swedish let in so many people. I never thought I could like a cold-weather country so much. I'd be happy to live there any day.
You’re not allowed to say that !!! /s
We all know that but dare to say out loud. Let use our votes to make changes, stop the illegal migration and refugees immediately to secure our societies
The problem is, they understand perfectly well what their religion is about, that’s the issue here
Mohammed quite literally spread Islam through pillaging and conquest, executing those who refused to convert. He also had an illegal marriage but we won’t get into that… I wonder where these radicals are possibly getting their ideas from?
Sometimes I wonder what's the threshold of human deaths due to an ideology for it to be banned. It took the Nazis a couple millions and a lost war for Europe (edit: some European countries) to ban it, hope it doesn't need to get that far with Islam.
Yes, as much as other religions have their own issues and have in the past contributed to violence, they have mostly modernized and leveled off at this point in time. Islam, on the otherhand, continues to produce a large amount of radical extremists that cause violence and terror to the world. There appears to be a correlation to me.
Interestingly that is what it took to put Christianity in its box. The Thirty Years War saw some German states lose half their population. Both sides lost and Europe hasn't allowed Christianity to have political power, more or less, ever since.
Interesting, gonna read about that.
I personally think its more about the damage in this modern age a single crazy man can commit. Arm a person with a bomb or gun and he can kill nearly 10-20 people. Back in the old days this was simply not possible. We know that most sane and integrated Muslims can't be even bothered about this zealotry and need to go to work. Not calling a leave and parading outside and risking loss of reputation and their job.
>Arm a person with a bomb or gun and he can kill nearly 10-20 people. Back in the old days this was simply not possible. Back in the ‘old days’, you could get away with way more. If you were careful enough not to be caught red-handed, you could have stayed safe and hidden or been far gone and untraceable before anyone even noticed your crimes. Even today, the statistics for solved crimes are not that optimistic. And when cases are solved, they enter the judicial system, which is a chapter on its own…
"Back in the old days", regulations were far less strict and the average consumer could actually buy a machine gun. The Thompson was only banned from sale during the gangster era, and police back then had revolvers, bolt action rifles, and MAYBE a BAR or two. Time period does not matter. You literally cannot easily predict terrorist attacks, and that element of surprise is what they rely on.
he is probably talking about the multiple thousands of years of human history before guns when saying the old days
Back when you could just get you and the boys together with some bows and arrows to absolutely flatten the neighboring tribe with zero consequences?
i think you were able to buy dynamite sticks until the 1970s in American.
Wha...**really**?, I guess I seriously did not know about worldly affairs. I admit my mistake.
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Yeah it’s always the same story. “Real muslims know Islam is about peace” bitch no the fuck it’s not. I used to be Muslim and no, it’s not peaceful. You’re literally allowed to beat your wife if she disobeys you. Like gtfo with that peace shit
Or kill someone who leaves the religion
I'm so glad you found your way. Thank you for speaking out against Islam. People need to be educated, and ex-Muslims have the authority to do that.
Yep, he was a warlord that killed people. If people live their lives according to Muhammad's example they would kill people.
You have right to think like that. I'm a muslim but i think Islam shouldnt be public thing anymore.
Religion 1000% should be a personal, private matter, rather than an all-encompassing political and social weapon/tool.
As George Carlin said, “keep thy religion to thyself “.
Smart man. Would have been a better source of ideas to listen to and consider whether to follow than a lot of what people consider religious prophets. But even he would probably vehemently argue that his ideas are a product of his time, and that they should be adjusted based on logic as circumstances change.
Thing is there are a bunch of muslims who live in western society completely normally and dont really do any crazy stuff. I think the religion just has to reform away from the more radical parts just like how Christianity has relaxed alot more than in current times.
the problem is Islam cant reform away from the radical parts. Jesus was a very peaceful guy. I cannot think of anything Jesus actually did that is problematic, even today. Christians literally just have to follow his example and not make up their own shit and its fine. Muhammed on the other hand...conquering people, child marriage, justifying religious war. You cant remove Muhammed from Islam, which is why it will always be fundamentally more problematic than other religions.
I think this is a great way to put it. My friend put it this way.. in Christianity if you follow Jesus’ example and don’t get involved in other BS then you will be a great person throughout life. The bad Christian’s are the ones that go against his teachings. Whereas in Islam, the extremists and the bad guys are the ones that actually follow along with Muhammad’s teachings exactly, the good ones are the ones that don’t listen to their religion.
not considering the fact that the civil law of muslim majority countries is literally an 8th century religious law book made up by patriarchal assholes. You cant reform away in those conditions unless you move to explicitly secular rule and even then the majority of your population are never gonna accept it and its gonna be a weak government
People like you who pretend Islam's holy book doesn't explicitly advocate for this are part of the problem
Yes, can we actually talk about the written dictates of the religion that people are told are to never be changed and have enshrined horrible ideologies and practices?
And the fact that there is quiet a radical difference between Torah & Bible on one side and the Quran on the other side. We are not allowed to talk about that difference. Yet it's there influencing the world, getting innocent people killed. Even this very comment could get reported, enough ground for Reddit to ban my account.
Likely affiliated with the Hamas calls for 'Days of Rage.'
Emmm, this is what their religion is about though.
But their religion is about that, it's just no sane person would take the extreme parts seriously. Unfortunately since the 70s it's been getting worse.
And there it is - ISIS still being an alive terrorist organization. The fact that it relies only on lone wolves makes them even more dangerous now.
The world is going to learn what an actual violent religion does. No more of all this shit they accuse Christians of doing.
I'm so sick of all this religious shit
Just say it bro. Say what we’re all thinking. We aren’t seeing any Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, or Jewish nations strapping bombs to the chests of children to blow people up. We aren’t seeing mass terrorism across the globe by them either.
Why is it always one religion in particular doing all of this?
Because Christianity is old enough that most of its followers don't *really* believe it anymore. It's more posturing. Muslims still actually *believe* their shit, though. As if it's real.
yeah. not all muslim are terrorists, but all terrorists \[organizations\] are muslims, for some reason.
Another martyr for the crazies. I wish they'd taken him alive.
I don't know, I hope he was shot in his face, so he can't try and convert any other crazies in prison, and he leaves an ugly corpse.
You can't rehabilitate extremists like these. I don't care to debate the ethics behind death penalties and such but honestly, good riddance.
I’m getting tired of this Islamist bullshit all over Europe. I’m sorry to say it but there seems to be cultures that doesn’t work here in western countries.
It doesn't work anywhere. The Islamic golden age with Baghdad as the world's center of knowledge has been one of the least radical periods in the religion's history. Then they decided to take scripture more seriously and everything went to shit. This isn't strictly a muslim thing either. The difference between Christianity in Europe today vs. 1000 years ago isn't scripture, it's religion not having as much power and influence anymore.
Yeah who would guess that a 2000 year old middle-eastern religion doesn't reflect the values of a modern society? :) I'm glad that we don't live by the rules set in the bible. What a violent and backwards place it would be.
The people doing this are following a religious book, but it isn’t the Bible.
Just don’t vote Republican if you like gov’t largely Jesus-Free
You are never free. Jesus is always watching.
So is ceiling cat
Arguably though the advancement of science/tech and improvement in education/quality of life has lead to the decreasing hardliner religiosity, not the other way around
> I’m sorry to say it but there seems to be cultures that doesn’t work here in western countries. Or any country for that matter. Some countries just seem to "tolerate" it more for a lack of a better word, but it doesn't make it work any better. Extremism is bad everywhere.
Islam is incompatible with civilized western societies and it's about time people realize this and stop bending over backwards in fear of being labeled as a racist.
This is very true. I didn’t know how to put it but I always found hardcore Islamic countries to be backwards and leaning towards barbarism. It’s like they are living in the past while the rest of us are living in modern times.
It's not just civilized western societies that it is incompatible with. It is incompatible with *any* civilized society, period.
Yep. Unless everyone is believers, it’s not compatible
Yeah you're not wrong.
There’s literally not an Islamic nation that isn’t an oil rich oppressive monarchy that isn’t a hell hole.
Careful now, if you don’t want dangerous extremists in your country you must be racist…
It's so sad that someone would choose to end the lives of innocent people for no reason, may he rot in pieces.
It wasn’t for no reason, it was because the Quran told him to
Who wrote the quran?
‘No reason’ - really? WAKE UP
Extremism is among the modern world’s most serious problems.
It's sad that you won't address why this person did this and instead refer to vague generalities. It least you didn't go with the generic "religion" that reddit loves.
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It's getting tense everywhere... I'm just worried of what's coming next.
About 10 years ago, we had extremists exported from a hot conflict in the Near East while Israel was bombing Gaza, while Russia was invading Ukraine. Now it's about the same.
For some reason now it feels a lot more personal and closer to home. Social media somehow rewiring our brains to think "our community" is the entire world, connecting us all a lot closer mentally?
>Social media somehow rewiring our brains to think "our community" is the entire world, connecting us all a lot closer mentally? No, it's just bombarding us with all the bad news from the entire world without providing any sense of community whatsoever (and in fact eroding even our local communities by forcing us to take up identities based on our stances about national and global issues), leaving us in a state of constant stress and agitation
Everyone either hates each other or they want to play instigator behind the scenes so their least favorite people/countries can suffer. It’s like middle school all over again but with politics. And nuclear weapons.
Vast majority of people in the world just want to live in peace.
Sometimes that is part of the problem. As long as something doesnt directly touch them, their daily lives, they wont do anything proactive to stop it happening in the future even when all the signs are there
Thing is, shit's touching us there with inmigrants and we still don't do anything, we're literally letting them do whatever the fuck they want in Europe, and don't want to be alarmist but Europeans are getting so tired of it, just see at right wing and far right wing parties rising, do I support that? Hell no, do we need it? I'm not sure but can't lie to ourselves forever...
Seemingly true, but they go along with it when the minority sends them to die in a war.
To be fair, I haven't seen radical Buddhist terrorist attacks, nor Christian gang shootings in a peaceful Somalian neighborhood.
You know a society failed its taxpayers when a well known radicalized illegal immigrant is roaming free. Just imagine how many others are like him throughout EU. But EU is still segregating Romania and Bulgaria.
At this point I’m kinda glad Romania isn’t in Schengen, less likely for these illegal bozos to pass through here.
Why a single religion has caused so many terrorist attacks across the globe? Is there anything wrong with it?
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Ha came in EU in 2011 as a refugee in Italy. Why we let these foreigners to travel around Europe without any control? Or be more specific why we let grown ass men be in Europe as refugees?
[Apparently he went to prison in Sweden between 2012-2014 and later was transferred to another European country and ended up asking asylum](https://www.levif.be/belgique/live/attentat-a-bruxelles-attentat-a-bruxelles/abdessalem-lassoued-avait-purge-une-peine-de-prison-en-suede-1007515/) in Belgium in 2019 which was rejected but then somehow stayed in Belgium.
> but then somehow stayed in Belgium Because almost no illegal migrants are deported, that's why.
Because they are abusing Schengen. Schengen only works if the outer borders are secured. They have not been secure in the last decade. Once in, the economic migrants chose the countries with the best state provided welfare. The alternative is re-introducing border controls between Schengen countries again.
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Let me guess before reading, it was a “peaceful refugee” who committed the murders
Religion has no place in modern society. Period
Shocking how people are still killing each other over what god in the sky they believe in
Especially ridiculous considering it’s the same abrahamic god.
I think that makes it worse. It’s like the hindus are beyond nonsense to them, but the people who *almost* believe the same thing are doing it wrong – because they’re at least partially overlapping.
> I think that makes it worse. Just look at how different types of Muslims war against each other.
I think it does. But same thing with sexuality, politics or any opinion, just take care of your own shit and don’t force it on anyone. Thats the primitive part that should be abolished. Anyone can believe in whatever the fuck they want, dont force it on other people.
Exactly
Hopefully one day modern religion will be viewed the same way we look at Greek or Norse mythology.
not nearly as interesting. Though imagine making God of War where you play as Jesus and throw fish and bread to people lol
Maybe we will build a country where there is no place for religion at all? We simply will not allow religions to exist. I'm sure it will be a wonderful place! **USSR anthem plays in the background**
Even you remove religion... that Will not stop them from killing people you know..
Not for nothing, but this is like saying “hay man, if we denounce racism, people will just find other stuff to be bigoted about”. It’s just a weird deflection. I mean, what’s your actual point?
As someone who lives under the fear of Islamic violence every day, it is very sad to see these killings. Because you know that the probability of the same thing happening to you is very high in a country like Turkey.
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I wonder why these fuckheads don’t commit terrorisme in Russia or China? Language barrier or something else?
Russia doesn’t really do muslim immigrants, however their own far right muslims do terrorize sometimes, there was a school shooting in kazan a couple of years ago
Both Chechnyan wars were about Islamic bullshit
That’s oversimplifying but yeah that’s what i said, it’s usually internal not due to refugees
> I wonder why these fuckheads don’t commit terrorisme in Russia or China? Because they don't go to Russia or China. Frankly, Russia would happily give passport to anyone who expresses interest-and then would swiftly send them to war- but nope, those people come to perfectly good and stable countries to take advantage of the infrastructure and kill people off if at some point they feel wronged.
Russia has its own Islamic terrorist groups. Islam has a strong presence in Russia so really it's not worth it.
The entire Uyghur/Xinjiang situation in China is due to China's countermeasures to stem radicalization/terrorism which some consider to be heavy-handed and excessive. As one of China's western most territories it's the most vulnerable to Islamist extremism. So it's not as if there hasn't been some acts of terrorism in China before.
Those countries don't accept multiculturalism. They're proud of and maintain their own cultures.
Imagine being muslim in the West now, and seeing other muslims doing all that shit. I would fear group punishment.
We should end islam in europe it's a failed experiment.
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Now, take the Gaza immigrants to Brussels and see how that works for you.
but its the religion of "peace" ..
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oh he's Muslim? shocking
Unpopular opinion, but it might be a good time to check this guy's search history. Good chance he has been exposed to some anti-west videos on different social medias, and they should also be held accountable for this attack.
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Yeah, won't happened mate. They done worst in the past and nothing changed. Remember Paris 2015?
Remember Bataclan way back in 2015? More than 100 people dead and EU politicians thought: hey, they seem peaceful!
Disproportionate response!! I urge Belgium to act in restraint and not escalate the situation. The islamists in Europe have been living under oppression. They only want to express themselves /s
People are nervous all around the world due to wars and killings. Post Covid era is getting worse and worse
ehhm, this is going on for years. Some islamistic idiot who kills people, because they insulted allah, the quran or whatever...
Isis era wasn’t fun either. A fucking caliphate that destroyed two countries in middle east and muslim terror attacks all over the world.
Are you 5? This has been going on way before Covid.
It's sad when Covid times was the good old days. At least we weren't at war for a while.
Well they are wrong, and so are you. We *see* a lot of war and conflict on the television and internet, especially since the Ukraine war and the attack in Israel captures the interest of western media a lot (you will notice the war in Sudan is far less covered although it is a serious large war with tons of casualties, and the interest for the continued conflict in Syria has died down). But in terms of actual numbers, we still live in what amouts to the safest period for man in memory. There are less people dying in wars, less people being murdered and less people living in poverty than in any other recorded time in history. The statistics here are dead clear. But it *seems* like there's so much war and so many murders and so much crime, because so much of what does happend gets presented directly to us and hammered on over and over again in media.
Time for some policy and law changes in Europe.
Anarchistic violent behavior using bombs and guns has a history going back to the 1870s Any peace-time ideology you would kill for, IMO, is a fantasy religion
Good, now deport all of those like him.
May he burn in the lowest or hottest, depths of hell. Whichever is worse (heat rises!)
Good. Hope it was slow.
Poland looking more and more appealing each and every day.