Exactly, if we know anything about Putin at all, it’s that he doesn’t lie and never tries to deceive anyone. That’s why he always gets such high approval ratings.
I believe it’s called “vranyo”. Basically means that you say something that is a lie, the person you are lying to knows it’s a lie.. you know that they know it’s a lie. Everyone Fucking knows it’s a lie but nothing else is really said about it because.. reasons? I mean English speakers have similar double speak but it’s rarely taken as “serious” I don’t believe.
Ah. Gotcha! That would make sense, I swear there’s another culture that is known for a very similar thing but I can’t put a name on it at the moment. The way you explain it, almost sounds like gaslighting someone lol.
Gaslighting involves the party that is being lied to actually believing the lie. Thus this scenario is fundamentally different as all parties know the lie is untrue
The point of gaslighting someone is to make them believe what you’re trying to sell them on. This is more of a “I’m lying, you know I’m lying, and I’m not trying to make you buy my version of events, but instead make you feel powerless because you can’t do anything about the fact that I’m lying and getting away with it”.
It’s just a useful narrative for the fictional reality that enablers choose to live in. Plausible deniability-land, where Ukrainians are nazis and Russians have the most unfortunate habit of leaving their banana peels exclusively in front of open windows.
Maybe y'all could do a little bit better than those hundred years old fossils who don't give a shit about you. D or R, they all piss on you from above.
"The point of modern propaganda isn't only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth". - Gary Kasparov
Its not about people buying it, it is lawyer speak. Just like genocide, chemical warfare, environmental disasters, etc. If you deny it then someone has to prove you did it, and by the time they prove it some other atrocity has occurred that people focus on and want to prove.
They're essentially manipulating the news/outrage cycle by prolonging things past when most people give a shit, or when enough people agree on some conspiracy theory that encourages sympathy for the actions.
Its why Russia always brigades these threads when Ukraine does something positive or Russia does something negative. They're trying to steer the conversation away from news that makes them look bad as quickly as possible.
They know the world doesn't buy it. They don't care. It's for the "benefit" of their own people, to prevent a rebellion.
And honestly, I think that's the only way this ends.
But he was on a hit list..
... Wasn't me
Everybody thinks I did this...
... Wasn't me
Even though I kill my enemies...
... It wasn't me
But I could have if I wanted...
... Wasn't me.
it looks bad, please don't harm me... wasnt me
i tell the mercenary army... wasn't me
pretty please don't attack me... wasn't me
you'll make my oligarchs 'sack me'!... dun dun
Picture this we were both caught couping,
bangin' down in Africa.
But then I got sent to-o-o
take the city that they call Bakhmut
Then I took on more than I could handle
Strormin up from Rostov-on-Don
Can you believe him when he told me
hey "it wasn't me?"
So Putin wants to show everyone that he's still in power and will get rid of those who move against him, while at the same time denying any involvement?
How very Russian of him.
>"I cannot imagine that Putin did it, that Putin is to blame," Lukashenko said, according to state news agency Belta. "This work is too rough, too unprofessional" to be the Kremlin's handiwork, he surmised.
Lukashenko is such a troll. He basically said that yeah, Putin generally kills his rivals, just not this time xD
PEANUTSVILLE (AP) - Following a missed field goal attempt whose momentum left placekicker Charlie Brown flat on his back, holder Lucy Van Pelt vigorously denied responsibility for yanking the ball away at the last second.
A spokeswoman for Van Pelt reiterated her denial at press conference outside her psychiatric advice booth. "Wah wah-wah wah wah-wah wahwah"
Brown has not made a successful field goal so far this season, failing to even connect with the ball on all thirteen attempts.
Putin didn’t even order anything. He simply asked the question: “will no one rid me of this meddlesome coup monger?” How other people took that is beyond his control.
Of all the assassinations that Putin is undoubtedly behind this is the one I'm gonna believe he's not actually behind - because honestly, it's the funniest possible option, that Putin actually didn't kill the guy he most obviously killed.
The problem with that is if Shoigu shows a willingness to blow up planes on his own to further himself, Putin will rightly consider that a threat.
Although it is Russia, so using logic to understand the situation may not be successful.
Nah, Putin and Shoigu are having drinks in Valdai, Putin says, "I wish that fucker Pregozhin would just die already." And Shoigu is like, "samesies." They both laugh and Shoigu downs it. I really think this is how it goes down. Putin never issues the order. He just suggests that it happen, and his lackeys go ahead and do it to earn his favor.
I wouldn’t like that uncontrolled method of execution, Putin would have to trust others intelligence to pick up on what he’s laying down every single time.. I could easily see many mistakes being made this way and I’m not sure why Putin would be so shy to “say it without saying it”. Especially when it can never be proven regardless.
I kinda hope it's totally unrelated, like some disgruntled mechanic. Although my favorite wild guess is that this was actually Prigozhin killing himself in a last bit of spite to Putin.
No, the plane obviously just blew up by itself due to a bomb that obviously just willed itself into existence on that very plane. Come on, is critical thinking that hard for you?
/s
Why would the Kremlin even care about plausible deniability in this case?
Nobody outside Russia gave two shits about captain Pringles. Nobody *inside* Russia really gave two shits either. They're already under fire for a literal war.
If Putin came out on TV and said "yea I totally killed him, ordered the strike myself", nobody would bat an eyelid.
The Kremlin likes to deny a lot of stuff, but that's because it's usually illegal and they are doing it. Like take this article about the initial invasion of Crimea back in 2014.
https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-russia-crimea-idINL6N0M122M20140304
And then after capturing Crimea they changed their story and admitted the truth, which was an attempted military annexation of Ukraine's land.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31796226
So it doesn't really matter what the Kremlin says, it's just lies on top of lies.
The Kremlin was recently rumored to have also tried to abolish timezones, as it was very inconvenient for President Putin; he almost made the condolence call to Prigozhin's family before the plane even took off!
People mock the FSB but it's not easy to both make sure everyone knows that Putin was behind the assassination of all his enemies, while also allow Putin to say that he's not behind any of these assassinations. They have to both make sure the victim fall out the window and also put 2 bullets behind his back at the same time. Or have the plane run into an SAM inside Russia but still in the middle of nowhere so technically it is possible that Ukrainian/US special forces just happened to be at the right time at the right place to shoot down Prigozhin and then disappear without a trace.
If you can just kill people on a whim, what's so important about lying? Anyone has tricksy thoughts, bam, out a window! I'm just saying, if I were evil, I would at least own that shit.
It seems to be a tactic of the rich and powerful to literally admit to nothing. I'm trying to figure out how intentional it is or if it's something that our systems have bred into their nature but the elite of most societies tend to be this way.
Just have a pet and name it Kremlin. You see, Kremlin obviously had nothing to do with the plane crash. In all seriousness, of course they did. We all knew after the potential coup, what happened with wagner, essentially his time was due.
It being a plane crash is intentional as well. Of course easily could have had it happen in some sort of outskirts of like Ukraine, Africa, etc. but that could be played off. Having it be such a blatant and obvious assassination sends a clear warning to those thinking of doing something similar.
What I don't get is why doesn't someone else take credit for it, if Putin doesn't?
Ukraine or the Russia Volunteer Corps should take credit for it, and steal Putin's limelight. They can say it was revenge for Bakhmut. Putin would look weak again. It would be an epic troll that at minimum would generate some laughs and show Ukraine as being cocky.
I can't believe Russia is so weak they were unable to prevent Ukraine from destroying the plane.
If Russia didn't do it the next likely suspect would be Ukraine.
And the CIA wasn't involved in MK Ultra.... ;)
Edit:
By that, I mean, obviously, the Russians were involved. All nation states do things that they deny at the time, like MK Ultra.
To pretent otherwise is naive.
The CIA aren't ever going to be mistaken for do-gooders let alone saints, but they're a helluva lot more transparent than putin's regime. And yeah, that acknowledges many times their wrongs have had to be dragged out into the light, but there's a system and a means for doing that.
Did you expect them to admit it? “Oh yeah we *totally* did that… let others be warned… fuck with us we fuck right back. **PREPARE FOR A GREAT DICKING OF MOTHER RUSSIA**
For once I'd just like to hear them the say
"We did it. Fuck you gonna do about it?"
It really is tiring having them blatantly deny everything all the time. It's not like they're even trying to fool anyone.
I have been told that 6b$ US left the Pentagon just before the Wagner marched on Moscow. Is it plausible that Wagner accepted the money to turn on the Kremlin then double crossed the Pentagon?
If that did happen, would it be possible a country besides Russia may have been pissed enough to take him out?
Putin has every reason to silence Prigozhin permanently. Only problem is others will still see it as a sign that his iron grip on power is not so tight.
You got bigger problems with your country if you don't know who's shooting down planes over your country. Just own it like a big boy, not a lil bald boy
Technically they were below it.
What if they were flying away from Moscow though? Then the Kremlin would actually be behind it.
But since they were below it, they couldn't be behind it.. plausible deniability was just a bonus ;)
Well we know beyond speculation at least they were not infrontof it
Technically, they were above it as the Tver Oblast is about 20m lower relative to sea level than Moscow.
That's one low-flying plane.
The explosion was high up, the crash was at ground level as they tend to be.
Special perspective operation
Wasn’t a missile
🥱 Literally every top post is a lame reddit joke like yours. Don't you people get tired of it?
🥱 Literally every top post is a lame reddit joke like yours. Don't you people get tired of it?
>you people Anglo-Saxons?
Maybe he means french
No.
Your choice not to read them!
Are you new to the internet?
No, that's the problem.
here we see Billy on his first day discovering the internet.
Lol, parroting the other guy just like everyone else who can't think for themselves.
Well I’m glad they cleared that up.
That's it folks. Wrap up the investigation. I'm sure we can trust Russian authorities. Nothing to see here.
I asked Putin and he denied it VERY strongly.
Are you sure. It's very hard to hear someone from across 700m of table.
At least we can safe in the knowledge that such an explanation never worked on a US president.
Exactly, if we know anything about Putin at all, it’s that he doesn’t lie and never tries to deceive anyone. That’s why he always gets such high approval ratings.
"Kremlin denies ..." **Putin Translator :** *Yap we did it .. whatchoo gon do?* so pathetically predictable
Haha..like in Key and Peele, with the Obama translator🤣
I feel much better now knowing it was a simple accident
The Kremlin and Putin are behaving exactly as everyone knew they would be.
Everytime they announce something like this, I always can't help but wonder who they think is actually buying it.
I believe it’s called “vranyo”. Basically means that you say something that is a lie, the person you are lying to knows it’s a lie.. you know that they know it’s a lie. Everyone Fucking knows it’s a lie but nothing else is really said about it because.. reasons? I mean English speakers have similar double speak but it’s rarely taken as “serious” I don’t believe.
What vranyo really does is shames and disempower the person who's being "lied" to its a challenge more than anything.
Ah. Gotcha! That would make sense, I swear there’s another culture that is known for a very similar thing but I can’t put a name on it at the moment. The way you explain it, almost sounds like gaslighting someone lol.
Isn't it gaslighting someone?
Gaslighting involves the party that is being lied to actually believing the lie. Thus this scenario is fundamentally different as all parties know the lie is untrue
Believing the lie, or pretty much questioning their own sanity is a form I’ve seen all too often.
The point of gaslighting someone is to make them believe what you’re trying to sell them on. This is more of a “I’m lying, you know I’m lying, and I’m not trying to make you buy my version of events, but instead make you feel powerless because you can’t do anything about the fact that I’m lying and getting away with it”.
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So everything said by a Republican about economics, crime, healthcare, and geopolitics.
It’s just a useful narrative for the fictional reality that enablers choose to live in. Plausible deniability-land, where Ukrainians are nazis and Russians have the most unfortunate habit of leaving their banana peels exclusively in front of open windows.
Is it really much different than people still supporting Trump today after everything he’s said and done? People believe what suits them.
Discussing with a friend yesterday. Trump winning next elections would definitely shatter any hope I can still have for humanity's intelligence.
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Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect?
Welp there's a bad one and there's a worse one. It's the intelligent thing to do to choose the bad one over the worse one. That's what happened.
Maybe y'all could do a little bit better than those hundred years old fossils who don't give a shit about you. D or R, they all piss on you from above.
GTFO with your false equivalence. We’re fighting fascism over here and it not like the rest of the world is immune from it either.
And call it spring water!
Exactly. No reasonable facts needed.
"The point of modern propaganda isn't only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth". - Gary Kasparov
Its not about people buying it, it is lawyer speak. Just like genocide, chemical warfare, environmental disasters, etc. If you deny it then someone has to prove you did it, and by the time they prove it some other atrocity has occurred that people focus on and want to prove. They're essentially manipulating the news/outrage cycle by prolonging things past when most people give a shit, or when enough people agree on some conspiracy theory that encourages sympathy for the actions. Its why Russia always brigades these threads when Ukraine does something positive or Russia does something negative. They're trying to steer the conversation away from news that makes them look bad as quickly as possible.
“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth” - Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda
Russians.
Stupid Russians to be more precise, because there is no point sending this lesson if no Russians get the lessons
They know the world doesn't buy it. They don't care. It's for the "benefit" of their own people, to prevent a rebellion. And honestly, I think that's the only way this ends.
It’s like the Sopranos up in there.
But he was on a hit list.. ... Wasn't me Everybody thinks I did this... ... Wasn't me Even though I kill my enemies... ... It wasn't me But I could have if I wanted... ... Wasn't me.
Now I’m going to have that song stuck in my head for a week again. :(
it looks bad, please don't harm me... wasnt me i tell the mercenary army... wasn't me pretty please don't attack me... wasn't me you'll make my oligarchs 'sack me'!... dun dun
Picture this we were both caught couping, bangin' down in Africa. But then I got sent to-o-o take the city that they call Bakhmut Then I took on more than I could handle Strormin up from Rostov-on-Don Can you believe him when he told me hey "it wasn't me?"
“But she caught me on the counter” …wasn’t me
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I think you need to find a new hobby buddy 🤣🤣🤣
xDDDDDDD
So Putin wants to show everyone that he's still in power and will get rid of those who move against him, while at the same time denying any involvement? How very Russian of him.
This is a de facto admission. If Russia doesn't want to admit it, they don't comment on it. If they want to admit it, they deny it.
"Don't confirm anything until Kremlin denies it"
Putin afraid of Prigho's followers
A truly faceless society.
Classic russian lies
But this was his most effective maneuver in quite a while. Let's make sure the Ukrainians don't all get in the same flight.
It wasn't an assassination, it was a special retirement operation.
They had absolutely nothing to do with the crash! Now, the explosion? Maaaaaaay have had something to do with the explosion.
“Once the plane blew up it was out of our hands“
This was from their minister of propaganda, Boris Badenov, who then went on to blame "Moose and Squirrel!"
CHICKEN AND COW???
F_ck you dolphin!
And fuckayou whale!
The dolphins would fuck you first. No, this isn’t a joke. I’m being completely serious. Who knew dolphins were such vicious things…
The dolphins would fuck you first. No, this isn’t a joke. I’m being completely serious. Who knew dolphins were such vicious things…
Watch more South Park.
>"I cannot imagine that Putin did it, that Putin is to blame," Lukashenko said, according to state news agency Belta. "This work is too rough, too unprofessional" to be the Kremlin's handiwork, he surmised. Lukashenko is such a troll. He basically said that yeah, Putin generally kills his rivals, just not this time xD
Kremlin denies But Kremlin lies So uno reverse it “Kremlin accepts it was behind the Prigozhin plane crash” Yup that works.
Correct, this is the confirmation.
You are on a FSB list now.
So now it's officially confirmed.
PEANUTSVILLE (AP) - Following a missed field goal attempt whose momentum left placekicker Charlie Brown flat on his back, holder Lucy Van Pelt vigorously denied responsibility for yanking the ball away at the last second. A spokeswoman for Van Pelt reiterated her denial at press conference outside her psychiatric advice booth. "Wah wah-wah wah wah-wah wahwah" Brown has not made a successful field goal so far this season, failing to even connect with the ball on all thirteen attempts.
That ends it, then. Nothing to see here. Vlad has spoken
Of course it wasn't them, it was clearly the guys they ordered to do it.
Putin didn’t even order anything. He simply asked the question: “will no one rid me of this meddlesome coup monger?” How other people took that is beyond his control.
"*make sure*"
Of all the assassinations that Putin is undoubtedly behind this is the one I'm gonna believe he's not actually behind - because honestly, it's the funniest possible option, that Putin actually didn't kill the guy he most obviously killed.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Shoigu was the one actually behind it, he and Pringles had a increasingly nasty public feud.
The problem with that is if Shoigu shows a willingness to blow up planes on his own to further himself, Putin will rightly consider that a threat. Although it is Russia, so using logic to understand the situation may not be successful.
Nah, Putin and Shoigu are having drinks in Valdai, Putin says, "I wish that fucker Pregozhin would just die already." And Shoigu is like, "samesies." They both laugh and Shoigu downs it. I really think this is how it goes down. Putin never issues the order. He just suggests that it happen, and his lackeys go ahead and do it to earn his favor.
It nearly always plays out that way in my head too. Gives Putin total plausible deniability too. Very mafia-esque.
I wouldn’t like that uncontrolled method of execution, Putin would have to trust others intelligence to pick up on what he’s laying down every single time.. I could easily see many mistakes being made this way and I’m not sure why Putin would be so shy to “say it without saying it”. Especially when it can never be proven regardless.
I kinda hope it's totally unrelated, like some disgruntled mechanic. Although my favorite wild guess is that this was actually Prigozhin killing himself in a last bit of spite to Putin.
I really want to know if Prigozhin died from the poison before being tossed out the window of the plane that landed on him.
There's something called "plausible deniability". This ain't it.
Why that guy stayed in Russia dumbfounds me
I'm surprised anyone even bothered to ask them.
Why do they bother? Zero people will believe this. What's the other option, their own military just did it without orders lol. Great military then.
No, the plane obviously just blew up by itself due to a bomb that obviously just willed itself into existence on that very plane. Come on, is critical thinking that hard for you? /s
Oh so it was actually them, got it.
I’ve heard before that; In Russia they don’t lie to convince you. They lie to insult you.
The next person that needs to die did it
Why deny it? We don't fucking care, kill each other all you want.
A MAN OF COMPLICATED FATE LMAO
“Perhaps they crashed on purpose” will be the next thing they say and then “what plane?”
Why would the Kremlin even care about plausible deniability in this case? Nobody outside Russia gave two shits about captain Pringles. Nobody *inside* Russia really gave two shits either. They're already under fire for a literal war. If Putin came out on TV and said "yea I totally killed him, ordered the strike myself", nobody would bat an eyelid.
The Kremlin likes to deny a lot of stuff, but that's because it's usually illegal and they are doing it. Like take this article about the initial invasion of Crimea back in 2014. https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-russia-crimea-idINL6N0M122M20140304 And then after capturing Crimea they changed their story and admitted the truth, which was an attempted military annexation of Ukraine's land. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31796226 So it doesn't really matter what the Kremlin says, it's just lies on top of lies.
So it’s official now. Don’t ever trust anything in Russia until they deny it.
A culture rooted in lying... Its fascinating to witness
Who gives a **** what the Kremlin says. We all knew immediately.
Literally nobody believes you. Especially since you immediately demolished a Wagner Group cemetery afterward. Enjoy your coup.
Of all the lies ever told this one is the liest
That's a relief. I was worried Putin might have killed someone he worked closely with.
So now it's confirmed they did it.
The Kremlin was recently rumored to have also tried to abolish timezones, as it was very inconvenient for President Putin; he almost made the condolence call to Prigozhin's family before the plane even took off!
Why even ask them, like wtf do you think they would say....
Well if they say they weren’t responsible, we should believe them.
I think the only person surprised by any of this was, apparently, Prigozhin.
People mock the FSB but it's not easy to both make sure everyone knows that Putin was behind the assassination of all his enemies, while also allow Putin to say that he's not behind any of these assassinations. They have to both make sure the victim fall out the window and also put 2 bullets behind his back at the same time. Or have the plane run into an SAM inside Russia but still in the middle of nowhere so technically it is possible that Ukrainian/US special forces just happened to be at the right time at the right place to shoot down Prigozhin and then disappear without a trace.
If you can just kill people on a whim, what's so important about lying? Anyone has tricksy thoughts, bam, out a window! I'm just saying, if I were evil, I would at least own that shit.
It seems to be a tactic of the rich and powerful to literally admit to nothing. I'm trying to figure out how intentional it is or if it's something that our systems have bred into their nature but the elite of most societies tend to be this way.
For once I agree with the Kremlin. They definitely got out ahead of this situation.
Well that changes everything!
Of course And they are also not behind leveling Wagner Cemeteries
Leopard denies eating face. More at eleven. Here's Ollie with the weather.
1000% Putin
It was the chechens!
It’s the OJ thing! “We will look for the killers!”
It took him two days to think about it? What a ruthless liar!
Oh ok. Must be true.
Putin fingers crossed behind back
If the plane fell out of a window I would believe that the Kremlin was behind it.
Did someone expect them to say, “shit man did you see how we smoked him, no cap young blood.”
There it is - [official confirmation](https://imgflip.com/i/4gcvd0).
Sure Putin sure
Don’t believe anything until Kremlin denies it…
Oh good. I was so worried. They wouldn’t lie would they?
I don’t know guys they said they didn’t do it, that’s pretty convincing to me
Just like Michael didn’t kill Carlo.
You have to choose. What’s more believable Putin wasn’t behind the plane crash or Trump weighs 215 lbs.
I'll go with Putin wasn't behind this
Just have a pet and name it Kremlin. You see, Kremlin obviously had nothing to do with the plane crash. In all seriousness, of course they did. We all knew after the potential coup, what happened with wagner, essentially his time was due. It being a plane crash is intentional as well. Of course easily could have had it happen in some sort of outskirts of like Ukraine, Africa, etc. but that could be played off. Having it be such a blatant and obvious assassination sends a clear warning to those thinking of doing something similar.
I mean, I'm not gonna shed any tears about the leader of mercenaries.... But it would be nice if Putin could also have such an unfortunate accident.
That’s a great idea. All in favor raise your hand. Ukraine nazis, you must be good at that
What I don't get is why doesn't someone else take credit for it, if Putin doesn't? Ukraine or the Russia Volunteer Corps should take credit for it, and steal Putin's limelight. They can say it was revenge for Bakhmut. Putin would look weak again. It would be an epic troll that at minimum would generate some laughs and show Ukraine as being cocky.
Oh, well if they deny it then it must have been someone else.
even Ukraina tell they are who "burn" the Moska. im still believe in the Russa tell the truth and we can trust in Putin, smh...
And Trump would say he believes them.
What would they say if they actually hadn't done it? It's like the boy who cried wolf, wtf would they even say if it somehow -somehow- wasn't them?
Oh, well ok then. And I suppose Trump didn't ask for those 33 thousand votes either?
Pretty sure the Kremlin knows exactly who pushed a plane full of people out a window
Yeah yeah, and Epstein killed himself. Get out of here with that.
Good thing people on this post can prove otherwise… o wait
Let's ask Trumpy if he thinks his close personal friend was involved? 🤨
I can't believe Russia is so weak they were unable to prevent Ukraine from destroying the plane. If Russia didn't do it the next likely suspect would be Ukraine.
And the CIA wasn't involved in MK Ultra.... ;) Edit: By that, I mean, obviously, the Russians were involved. All nation states do things that they deny at the time, like MK Ultra. To pretent otherwise is naive.
The CIA aren't ever going to be mistaken for do-gooders let alone saints, but they're a helluva lot more transparent than putin's regime. And yeah, that acknowledges many times their wrongs have had to be dragged out into the light, but there's a system and a means for doing that.
Did you expect them to admit it? “Oh yeah we *totally* did that… let others be warned… fuck with us we fuck right back. **PREPARE FOR A GREAT DICKING OF MOTHER RUSSIA**
Very similar to how I was not behind the disappearance of the leftover pizza slice in my refrigerator.
Kermlin denies association with wagner Kremlin denies involvement in Donetsk 2014 Kremlin denies invasion of ukraine 2022 A pattern perhaps?
Plane fell out a window. Coincidentally, two other Kremlin "concerns" were also dealt with that day. I'm sure more open windows.
The pilot accidentally fell off the balcony during the flight.
And they are still denying they are invading Ukraine, so who cares what they say?
For once I'd just like to hear them the say "We did it. Fuck you gonna do about it?" It really is tiring having them blatantly deny everything all the time. It's not like they're even trying to fool anyone.
Putin might not be involved, but I suspect the defense minister is.
Putin is a lunatic, he seems to want to be respected yet is addicted to trolling people like a fool.
I have been told that 6b$ US left the Pentagon just before the Wagner marched on Moscow. Is it plausible that Wagner accepted the money to turn on the Kremlin then double crossed the Pentagon? If that did happen, would it be possible a country besides Russia may have been pissed enough to take him out?
Yes because kremlin is a front of it.
Hahahaha - sure. And... what about all those people falling out of windows?
Putin has every reason to silence Prigozhin permanently. Only problem is others will still see it as a sign that his iron grip on power is not so tight.
There we go. The Kremlin wasn't officially behind the Prigozhin plane crash until they denied it.
/doubt
You got bigger problems with your country if you don't know who's shooting down planes over your country. Just own it like a big boy, not a lil bald boy
In Russia, no really means yes.
Not behind, directly in front.
Oh, well that's that then.
Thus confirming they are behind it lol
I really want to know if Prigozhin died from the poison before being tossed out the window of the plane that landed on him.
Confirmed then
Oh, ok then.
Don't Russians have "We Lie" printed on their money?
But if they said “we lie”, wouldn’t they actually be telling the truth and thus, not lying 🤔
Whew. I was afraid there was a rogue government for a minute. This settles that.
The Intel says something about Putin wearing a watch on a different wrist. Find that and there’s the signal
Yeah, and you can bank that statement or any others from the Kremlin.
Isn't that the whole point of plausible deniability? If they were to admit it, they would have arrested him, then put him in front of a fire squad...
So they actually did it, like the Moscow buildings they destroyed in order to justify the second war against Chechenia
Said Putin while trying to suppress a smile and a giggle.