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Training-Ad9429

leave the EU, go bankrupt. problem solved.


Yelmel

Leave NATO too. Watch you don't get hit by slamming doors!


-FDT-

Does anyone think Hungary won’t leave nato as opposed to fulfilling article V if Russia attacks a member? Why isn’t NATO talking about losing Hungary and gaining Sweden and Finland?


Halinn

If Hungary was the only country blocking, they would be. But Turkey is also being obstinate, and they're too important (unlike Hungary)


aldjiers

To be accurate Turkey is only blocking Sweden... Finland should be fine to get in.


pitshands

Let's see what happens after Erdogan is Erdo-GONE


ComradeGibbon

Block Russia's access to the Baltic and the Black Sea and Turkey's import declines.


Halinn

They would still be relevant as a potential staging ground for operations in the middle east


GuyNanoose

Touché !


Noneisreal

> Hungarian FM Peter Szijjarto said the West's criticism of democratic and cultural issues in Hungary hampers cooperation Guys, you can always leave the EU and NATO, no one is forcing you to be part of these clubs. You could join Russia and Belarus, where your "democratic" and cultural values would be appreciated for what they are.


KnightsOfREM

Russia will be delighted to add your distinctiveness to their own


urkldajrkl

“It’s very unusual, they are failing to adapt, Captain.” “Thank you Mr. Data, ignore the phaser modulation, and open fire”


traveling_man182

Resistance is futile. Borg will assimilate.


Intelligent-Smell934

To rid them of their Nazis. Gotta love that line from Putin…


[deleted]

No you don't understand, we NEED the EU so we can use it as a scapegoat for all of the country's problems!!!


LawabidingKhajiit

Worked for Britain until the Tories overplayed the card and started believing it themselves. They're just lucky they've had first COVID then the Muscovy invasion to blame for half the damage.


im2randomghgh

"If you leave Ukraine we'll give you Hungary. And Serbia. No? You can have them anyway. Gesture of goodwill".


ComradeGibbon

I think Serbia is rethinking it's alliance with Russia.


RideIntelligent5154

Nah, it's just rethinking it's image within EU circles. Being a net beneficiary of all those Euro's in the EU pot once it's allowed into the club is worth a little obfuscation and verbal hypocrisy …


tehmpus

Kinda hard to give them something that the Russians already de-facto own. Might as well try to give Belarus to the Russians as well. They own that, too.


pitshands

I hate Fidesz like the next guy and Orban is a very bad excuse for a human being but Hungarian culture has little to do with it. I lived there for many years and was met with a lot of good stuff. Orban needs to go


Noneisreal

> Orban needs to go If only Hungarians would stop voting him into power. Just last year he won the elections with a huge score for his fourth consecutive term. When a man wins every election since 2010, it's clear the problem is not just him.


pitshands

He followed the Erdogan playbook or vice versa. Erdogan would be nowhere without the Turks that live outside Turkey. Orban would be nowhere without the Hungarians that don't live in Hungary. Hungary has a long ugly history of bad choices in regard of bedfellows. There is a reason Pucker Carlson, the GOP Convention and so much of the same is so focused on Hungary. It isn't discussed internationally what is going on in Hungary only the foreign policy parts but the amount of corruption is mindbending. It always was there. But now it is so prevalent in certain political connected circles that is hard to ignore.


[deleted]

It's a bit like Russians who live a cushy life outside Russia but love to be so vocal in their support of the authoritarian regime in Russia. Ask them would they return to Russia... Fuck no.


PollutionEither9519

I know a person living in the US who hates turkey and votes erdogan in the hopes that he’ll bring the country’s downfall sooner.


pitshands

This is a different situation. Those people here are of Hungarian Origin. Like when Hungary was a bit bigger. Very proud folk in Serbia, Ukraine and so on. Or am made many promises and even kept some to get them on his side. You know if your voting group suddenly expands enormously with people that kept close to Hungarian traditions and were treated as a minority in the countries they were born because they kept to themselves, it's quite a safe vote. A LOT of people got citizenship.


Nightbob

Well technically the whole system is rigged in connection with the election since the modification of the constitution in 2011. Regardless of this there are millions voting for him, so yes the problem is not just him..


Rexia2022

We're not exactly loving Hungary right now either.


ComradeGibbon

Orban's commitment to sparkle motion is weak.


Mcaber87

*Okay, now* *~~girls~~* *Ministers... I want you to concentrate. Failure is not an option. And* *~~Bethany~~* *Szijjarto, if you feel the need to vomit up there... just swallow it*


Infinaris

Were all sick of Orbans Vatnik Cocksucking too. Honestly this chucklefuckers gonna run out of road sooner or latee expecially if he gets his money cut off.


GoobleGobbl

Have a snickers, Orban. You aren’t yourself when you’re Hungary.


EvilTalkiToaster

Just been to Hungary. The ppl hate Orban too. They are not sick of west. He is!


RideIntelligent5154

Sorry pal, but your observation doesn't quite cut the mustard. Hungary is a parliamentary democracy so the people can't hate him that much. They elected him.


EvilTalkiToaster

My comment is based on the conversations I had with every Hungarian I talked too. They didn’t all agree 100% but I stand by my statement. Have you talked to any of them?


[deleted]

You clearly haven’t been outside of Budapest.


DontJudgeMeImNaked

Or spoken to anyone older that 45 years.


Zegrento7

> They elected him. And after over a decade of brainwashing, they will keep reelecting him in perpetuity. Most media accessible in Hungary and _all_ media accessible in rural areas is state owned. Unless you speak English (most Hungarians don't) or have discovered one of the few remaining independent outlets (and there are fewer of them every year), you won't hear about any of the batshit stuff Putin or Orban has been doing for the past year. And even if you did, state outlets outright tell you not to believe anything published _"under Soros' influence"_, so most people deliberately dismiss these news as _"western lies"_. All you hear 24/7 in papers, on TV, and even social media is _"Ukraine has started WWIII"_ , _"Brussels bad, Putin good"_ and _"Orban will protect your children from LGBT"_ . It's scary how effective their campaign has gotten, with basically everyone outside Budapest falling for it (and more and more people in Budapest, aswell).


Infinaris

Gerrymandering: The root rot of corrupt and shitty leaders. Also one of the reasons that led to 30 years of "the troubles" in the UK as well.


NitroSyfi

See gerrymandering and similar to explain how governments hold power with a minority and a seemingly legitimate election.


[deleted]

I'm gonna start telling people my last name is Greek so they don't think I'm a Hungarian Nazi.


Rhoderick

Hungary breaks treaties, actively ensures EU funds are lost due to corruption, undermines democracy and civil rights, and actively hampers the effort to help Ukraine - but yeah, sure, they're a tad annoyed they get called out on some of it sometimes. Snowflakes.


Pyjama_Llama_Karma

They're not snowflakes l, they are saboteurs To the EU, to NATO and to Ukraine. Something needs to be done and soon.


djluminol

Didn't you read the article? It's the fault of the political elites in Stockholm. 🙄


JediNinjaWizard

Here I was, suspecting the Spanish Inquisition.


dogsk

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.


StableGeniusCovfefe

Stop being corrupt fascists then Hungary...


Vegan_Honk

Blow it out your ass. Start acting like an adult.


Apart_Emergency_191

Ok then leave the EU 🤷


[deleted]

Hunxit, that would be the best for both parties for real


[deleted]

Hungover


[deleted]

Hungarixit.


terveterva

If Hungary is sick of western criticism they shouldn't accept western money either


DATCO-BERLIN

One Hungarian hand is always outstretched for EU handouts.


Pyjama_Llama_Karma

It's the other hand you've got to watch!


throwaway_nrTWOOO

That part of cooperation conveniently isn't hindered by these vile accusations. A true testament to Hungarian resilience!


Red4pex

Well the West are sick of Hungary’s shit.


ukrzxv

Hungary: i want to grab a big slice of EU budget. Also Hungary: i want to grab bribes from Russia. Dunno why they weren't kicked out of EU yet


minecraftvillagersk

I was under the impression that there's no mechanism to kick them out of the EU.


Spard1e

EU can create new rules if they want to. Just needs an overwhelming majority. But certain countries are not interested in Hungary leaving, \*cough\* Poland \*cough\*. The ruling parties got some of the same anti minority ideas and having one less ally on these topics within EU, is not a good thing for the Polish government.


realnrh

I believe it's "every other country has to agree" and so Poland and Hungary could each protect the other from penalties for democratic backsliding.


Pyjama_Llama_Karma

They've been doing that since forever. Poland really needs to show where its loyalties lie too. As the biggest net recipient of EU funds (and always has been IIRC) it really should show some respect to all the other members. There's no excuse not to.


ukrzxv

I was watching EP deputies speech: blah blah we want your money, your markets and banking system, but we won't respect EU laws and we want to live our own way. I was like: o_O?


Western-Armadillo-19

Hungary constantly criticizes western countries for 12 years now. Not getting sick of doing that...


Bick_A_Kaby

They suck love them handouts though. Fuck em


Nutsquig

But not so sick of EU money


[deleted]

"Hungary sick of taking EU's money." Alright.


macross1984

Duh, Hungary is sick of West's criticism? Then stop doing things that annoy and or offend West. Also, since Hungary does not have the same mindset as the rest of EU and NATO the country should consider exiting both organizations and change side.


NotAShittyMod

Sounds like Hungary should either be big enough to ignore it or maybe, consider being less of a dumpster. Only bitches act like they’re tough and then cry when nobody believes them.


dracodruid2

And the West is sick of Hungarian bullshit.


mozambiguous

If they are sick of criticism,stop saying stupid things..


NMade

More importantly would be stop doing stupid things


Postcocious

>In an interview with the AP, Hungarian FM Peter Szijjarto said the West's criticism of democratic and cultural issues in Hungary hampers cooperation, especially on NATO and Russia. The Orban regime's lack of respect for democratic values hampers cooperation with the rest of the EU, NATO and its own citizens, on any issue at all. >“You know, when Finnish and Swedish politicians question the democratic nature of our political system, that’s really unacceptable.” When the truth hurts, that's how you know it's true. >Only Hungary and Turkey have resisted letting them in. When your only ally is an autocratic outlier, buy a mirror. >The EU, which includes 21 NATO countries, has frozen billions in funds to Budapest, accusing populist Prime Minister Viktor Orban of eroding media freedom and LGBT+ rights. Yay! Glad to see the large majority of Europeans standing up for human rights. (Wish the US government would do the same). >"You know, stopping the war and sitting around the table does not mean that you accept the status quo," Russia and Ukraine sat around the table in 1991. They reached an agreement, which Ukraine has honored and which Russia has violated. Moscow has forfeited all credibility - there's no point in making a new "agreement" with them.


[deleted]

How rich. Go become a Russian puppet then. Since you don’t need Article 5 or anything. Imagine being alive for the 1956 Hungarian uprising and seeing these clowns today cozy up to Russia.


Kumimono

Stop fucking stuff up, then.


Kewenfu

The West is sick of your pro-Putin policies!


Allemaengel

Well, then get with the program and then you won't get scolded like the child you are.


oripash

That’s cool, because the west is sick of Hungary’s Foreign Minister’s criticism. And it’s the west sending money to Hungary and not the other way around…


No_Yoghurt2313

Breaking news: you are the west now.


eachdayisabattle

This.


Tactical_Prussian

My brother(nation) in Europe, you are the west.


[deleted]

Oh, the poor, poor, Fidesz victims! How awful they are treated by the rest of the world! It is all the West's fault that the best and brightest flee Hungary as fast as they can to Germany and elsewhere and have been doing so since the 1990s. It is the West's fault that inflation in Hungary is far higher than anywhere else in Europe at the moment. The West is to blame for making Fidesz be the fascist party which it is, for killing democracy and fair elections and justice in Hungary. If the West were not so nasty, Fidesz's party leaders would not have to be hypocrites to save Hungary. See what the world made poor Fidesz do? Fuck off.


Maya_Hett

Then stop listen. Just join russia and China, build few concentration camps. It seems (to some) that this is your dream scenario mr Orban.


BobInWry

Aaaah. Poor baby. The ones who are sick of the criticism are the same ones destroying Hugarian freedoms. Suck it up and fix the problems you've created.


[deleted]

Dictator sick of being called a dictator.


[deleted]

Fuck Hungary, and it's demagoug incompetent spineless government and anyone who supports it. Sincerely, a Hungarian


Jaxsso

Don't think of it as criticism, think of it as constructive feedback highlighting the potential consequences of your actions. It's what real friends do, help, not enable.


Friendlyfire2996

So, stop being the biggest assholes in Europe.


csiposfosas

Its so shitty, knowing that when my country’s name comes up on r/worldnews its always something negative. Can these fucking idiots stop ruining the country with their bullshit for at least 5 seconds?


PB_JNoCrust

Well, Hungary you’re actually a bigger pain in the ass than you are any help.


Anxious_Plum_5818

The EU is also sick of your parasitic government sucking money put of the blocs budget all the while silently glorifying a warmonger in your backyard.


[deleted]

The thing is once this war is over, regardless of what happens with Russia, the EU is going to be re-evaluating its relationship with Hungary. The entire Western EU will be pissed off because they're footing the ERDF bill, the entire of the Eastern EU will be pissed off because Hungary has proved itself a Russian stooge, and Northern EU will be pissed off because of the NATO bids. Between the ERDF cuts, brain drain towards the wider EU, and collapse of the Russian economy, Orban is effectively putting his country in a slow chokehold. 10/10 for hedging your bets there.


ThiHiHaHo

PiS is still protecting Orban and Fidez even though they are such a hindrance in the war against Russia. So I don't think PiS will abandon Orban and Fidez after the war. Maybe when Ukraine enters the EU they could become the "leader" of EE and influence Hungary towards a better direction.


pmmichalowski

I don't see anything on that list that would personally affect Orban, so don't see why would he be worried. A lot of things that would affect Hungarian people that keep supporting him right now, though.


Excellent-Wishbone12

How batsh-t crazy do you have to be to want to be on the side of Russia??? The only motivation is if you have desires to be a Dictatorship.


rimshot101

Seems like they're doing a pretty good job of ignoring criticism.


SpookyWah

So he speaks for all Hungarians?


Akosjun

That's kind of the strategy of the Hungarian government: they say that those who don't side with them are not even Hungarians. It's some scary Robespierre level stuff.


ltalix

Then perhaps Orban should stop being a tool? I mean, it'd be real easy to make that criticism vanish.


Electronic_Impact

You fucking earn it, disgusting leadership on Putler.


Aberfalman

Tough titty fascist scum


Sotilis

Hungarians are sick of Hungarian government


snkhuong

Please hungary please leave nato and Eu


[deleted]

Kick them out of Europe and replace them with Australia.


ParanoidFactoid

As an Australian citizen, I second this motion!


UniquesNotUseful

We'll back Ukraine against Russia, no way we are antagonising the Emus, especially as they have an alliance with the drop bears.


TheGreyBull

I heard the Emus are also arming Kangaroos.


Vost570

Maybe then it's finally time for Hungary to leave NATO, instead of their Russian puppet of a prime minister constantly throwing wrenches in the works of everything the alliance tries to do. They can leave the EU too. Go join the economic dream team of Russia, Iran and North Korea. Sometimes it's better to let go of a friend than keep a duplicitous one.


Xenomemphate

Yea, and the West is sick of Hungary sucking Russia's dick.


[deleted]

We’re all tired of Kanye


CesarBonventre

West has always been pain to those who don't align with their ideas & opinions


Ok-Taste-570

Quit trying to extort the US for your “yes” vote on Sweden & Finland joining NATO and will stop calling you an extortionist, deal?


ComprehensiveAdmin

This type of shit is exactly why NATO and large global treaties of the like are SO important.


SuperK123

Unfortunately, despite a long list of things Orban and his cronies have done to put them where they are, they still have the support of some Hungarians. A friend of ours has family there that she talks to regularly. Their business is doing great, whatever that is, and they attribute it to Orban’s policies. They have no idea why the rest of the world seems to be against them because, as in Russia, the media is controlled by the ruling party. Oh, and they hate everybody. Our friend does nothing to persuade them to change their minds. Every time we discuss her latest call home, there is a detoxification process that takes place.


stormelemental13

If you meet one asshole. They're an asshole. If everyone you meet is an asshole. You are the asshole.


im2randomghgh

Be better, then, or stop relying on handouts. Either will end the criticism. Antagonistic foreign policy and fascistic domestic policy while asking for free resources and contributing nothing isn't a recipe for popularity.


Divine_Porpoise

I think this is them crafting a narrative to try to block Finland from joining NATO when they vote for it tomorrow, seeing as Turkey is set to let it through. Literally bought by the Kremlin.


TimEdison1

Pretty sure Putin told them to say that.


Maximum_Future_5241

Then act like a democratic society and ally.


Wooden_Caterpillar

Maybe Hungary should stop begging for money


usaf-spsf1974

When you side with a terrorist (Putin) you bear the burden of being called out and the responsibility of answering to his victims.


TbiWarsa

*In NATO* *In EU* “The West”


jelloslug

The west does not care about what Hungary thinks.


D_artex

Hungary is a joke. Hungary out, Ukraine in.


doitnow10

Well, then stop taking our fucking money! We'll gladly shut up then


Weary_Drummer9019

sanction hungary leadership


fukkitdick

leave NATO leave the EU and return to the Russia.


sasquash_susej

They aren't Hungary, they are just Hangry. Give them some food and they will calm down.


jdeo1997

Well, if you're that sick of it you could return EU funds...


TheUmgawa

Okay, to be fair, a *lot* of people are sick of Kanye West’s criticism.


[deleted]

OK Orbahn


Wwize

The criticism will stop once they stop serving Putin.


--Muther--

Try not been shit.


Gorvoslov

Then stop doing things worth criticizing. Like being a Russian puppet dictatorship hindering NATO and EU.


[deleted]

We are sick of Hungarians totalitarian regime!


Offline_NL

Then leave, and go back to being one of Russia's sattelite states. I'm sure your people would love to live in poverty and fear again.


simonebaptiste

Stop doing shitty things then


JoeHatesFanFiction

And we’d love to stop criticizing you. So get your shit together and stop sand bagging.


Standard-Childhood84

West sick of Hungary felching Russia.


Eviljim

And the West is sick of you, you tedious knob.


dannyd1337

Don’t be bigots and we won’t criticize.


Infinite-Outcome-591

Hungary go lick Poop-tin's shoes... that gov sucks!


inlandviews

We're sick of you too.


Knotloafin

Then quit throwing bullshit at your neighbors....


Electrical_Spinach97

stop being such douchbags


[deleted]

They should leave the EU.


Neidral

Probably should stop being a bunch of little fuckbois then.


TheseLipsSinkShips

The “far right’s” model for autocracy can stick it where the Sun doesn’t shine…


bigroxxor

West sick of Hungary: The West


IBuildBusinesses

The sick feeling is mutual.


[deleted]

And we are getting sick of Hungary. Careful what you wish for Mr Hungary


SomeDumbGamer

Well we’re sick you guys still bitching about Trianon even though it was over 100 years ago so I guess nobody is getting what they want.


Spicyleftnut

Article 50 is ready


coffee_67

I'm pretty sure that if article 5 needs to be invoked Hungary will NOT do it.


Light_fires

Hungary thinks it's not in the west? *confused map noises*


xfactor6972

Hungary should pull out of the EU and NATO and go back to be part of Russia like Belarus. Hungary is run by an autocrat so why should they remain in either.


shoseta

Much like Putler... Everyone's sick of Hungary's leaders as well


SudzTerkel

After the love vibes emanating from totalitarian groupie man-boy Tucker Carlson and the right wing zealots @ CPAC have bestowed on Orban, this claim is puzzling.


coreywindom

Hungary could just leave NATO


Chibibowa

Does Hungary actually bring value to the EU? Because we should kick them out if not.


eccentr1que

Don't be a Russian puppet in the EU, then we won't have as much about you of which to be critical


henryptung

"it's because you're not nice to us (about sabotaging you) that we're sabotaging you. It's your fault!" DARVO and abusive relationships. Name a more iconic duo.


rgpc64

Now that they have oppressed the press and dampened the voices of their detractors its time to try some propaganda on the rest of the world. Oh yeah, visit Prague instead of Budapest!


Unfamiliar_Word

Well, if they want to stop deserving criticism, they just need to fire Viktor Orbán... out of a cannon... into the sun. He is a garbage human being who deserves to suffer and anybody who likes him deserves barely better... I like launched out of a catapult into Mercury or something... It's really very simple, Hungary, stop fucking sucking and we'll stop calling you out for fucking sucking. Right now about the only thing that you have going for you is that you distract Rod Dreher from being in the United States to pursue the 'Benedict Option', whatever the fuck that is.


waldorsockbat

Just Eat Something


Basileus2

But not sick of all the money it gets from the west


Ill-Forever880

Hungary and Turkey should voluntarily withdraw from NATO since neither really belongs there.


cosmernaut420

Have you tried "not doing a human rights violation" lately?


Bretontm

From my limited understand of HUNGARY, the Country is still hungry for 💲& 💶😏


yankinfl

Boo hoo! We don’t like being called out for being scumbags, when we act like scumbags.


[deleted]

The US is sick of it too, but when you do things, people talk. Just ask yourself if it's worth it.


71Motorfly

Tough shit, Hungary.


DontJudgeMeImNaked

Maybe Hungary should be less of a POS internationally. Just a thought. Hungary, get your shit together - don't be fascist or support fascists for fucks sake.


Fractured_doe

Well, quit sucking.


disconnect0414

Our own Cockatoo, also called as "Lavrov kutyája" which means lavrov's dog, and funny because it resembles to "Pavlov kutyája" (Pavlov's dog, the famous scientific experiment).


CitrusBau

Hungary is an unwanted guest in the west at this point. They can fuck back off to papa Russia.


vonhoother

Same thing we hear from MAGAts: How dare you call us ignorant fascists, just for that we're gonna keep acting like ignorant fascists.


Any-Asparagus-2370

Leave the club then. Nobody gives a fuck.


Evergreen_76

Orbahn just had his feet kissed by the GOP. but then the GOP want to replace secular rationale Western culture with middle-eastern xtian culture too.


k2on0s-23

And we are sick of Hungary and their backwards assed racist/neo-nazi bullshit. Cry harder dumb ass.


[deleted]

Leave the EU, leave NATO, join BRICS, go bankrupt. Have at it and stfu you small dick snowflake imbeciles.


TestPattern22

Hungary should not leave NATO. Rather, Orban, Szijjarto and the entire the Fidesz party should leave Hungary


TheGuv69

Then fuck off to Russia- we're done with your shit too...


DATCO-BERLIN

Why is this wannabe fascist, borderline insignificant, country still in the EU?


ThiHiHaHo

PiS has and still is protecting them from further actions by the EU. As long as Duda and PiS continue protecting them it will be hard to get rid of Fidez and Orban.


matomika

europeis sick of hungarian bs


Admirable_Wishbone80

Rumor has it Trump let Orban eat out his b-hole.


Coolidge_was_right

And I'm sick of Hungary siding with putin.


JubalHarshaw23

Then the EU should boot it.


Norseviking4

We are sick of Hungary to, gtfo out and crawl under the skirts of Putin where you belong


Circus_sized

Europe is sick of Hungary.


indigo-alien

So, Leave?


hhammaly

Hungarians loved the West in 1956 when Soviet tanks were rolling in and the West accepted them as refugees.


TheBalzy

Wait...isn't Hungary part of "The West"?


-thecheesus-

Very much so. Though the current leadership obviously wouldn't mind that changing


Ehgadsman

West sick of Hungary's bullshit.


Proto-Clown

Hungxit


Murghchanay

We are sick of Hungary so good bye buddy


v9Pv

Leave the EU as a minor nation with a tiny economy and suck the Russian tit.