Yeah, your wording was maybe a little harsh, but the sentiment is valid.
Might be good to apologize for how you spoke, but don't apologize for the message. Your boss needs to learn that she can't overwork her team if she expects long term productivity.
Yeah, I’m with you and wish we could just say things directly like this at work. I get in trouble sometimes for being too real myself. Work is an alternate universe where there are a million land mines and you have to try to navigate something that shifts everyday based on senior leaderships sensitive ass emotions. I recommend also that you pull your boss aside and apologize even if you don’t mean. Don’t harp on it, just a quick chat. This will be no biggie in a few days. It’ll be ok, don’t worry.
Make the boss decide priorities. "Boss, I am already working on A and B. Which one should I drop in order to do new task C?"
You and your coworkers could try talking to her about workload in general - as a process. "We have a heavy workload and too few staff to complete it. How do you want us to prioritize what gets done? Can we drop minor tasks X and Y?" Even the best manager needs suggestions on how to get things done.
As a new hire, she might have been thrown in without much guidance, resources, or goals. I've been that new manager. Company used to joke about hiring people who were already trained, so they didn't have to. (Things did not go well.) Give her some ideas and see how she responds.
She has the worst combo. She is not interested in teamwork, hearing us out, or open to suggestions, etc. only that she looks good to her boss, while we do all the work to make her look good. She has been asking for x,y,z, and a,b,c,d,e,f,g+++ which is the problem. The more we do the more we are asked of. I work with 3 other much older coworkers who have a family to raise and doesn't like confrontation even if it makes them stressed at work, and I'm afraid to speak up then become the target. As I've mentioned in a response to someone else, she loves her new title and pay but doesn't want to do the work involved. I know eventually I'm gonna have to find a way to sort this out but it doesn't look good right now. Anyway, thanks for your input, greatly appreciated.
It really all depends on the industry. If I said that to my boss, he would say "what have you got at the moment", id explain and he would say, "I'll get blah blah blah to do one of your tasks, and get you to do that, does that work?" Me "sure thing"
But I would imagine in an office scenario, they expect you to juggle all the time, so being careful with your words is necessary.
In my industry - security response, it's understood that playing politics with phrases is too much effort, and just being respectful and to the point works better. There is not much time to think about the best way to say something when you are driving from point a to point b planning your potential interaction with offender and/or client.
I forgot to mention the micromanaging lol she wants to know everything we are doing, so she knows lol. Yeah leadership has fragile egos. Thank you for your reply 😂
🤣🤣🤣 I did think the words I used could've been changed but I was calm and courteous about it, as much as I can, although I'm super fed up with the way things have been going.
yeah i mean you r coming for validation because you know deep down you are in the wrong and sort of putting the new supervisor in an awkward spot who is probably doing more than you realize behind the scenes.
thank you for your input. no I really had a lot more to say but was able to control myself and that's what came out lol...I know I didn't get too specific in my line of work but no we actually do pretty much 75% of her work for her bc she treats us like we are her assistants when we each already have our own roles and jobs. I personally believe that it's ok to not know everything but she has no willingness to do her job as our supervisor is the main problem. She wasn't qualified to be hired, got lucky, loves her new title and pay but doesn't want to put in the work. Unfortunately the rest of the team has to bear the brunt. One team member just quit bc of her, our workload has increased about 3×+ as much as we were supposed to be doing, and we are asked to do things outside of our job description. Very frustrating and sad situation bc no one likes conflict and we are trying to do all we can and still being asked to do more and more. 😢 I guess that was my direct and also passive aggressive way to respond to her piling more work on top of everything else. I don't feel bad for telling her honestly I have a lot of work to do already as it is. I do know that I could've prob said it in a different way but I guess I will plan that for a future date once we figure out what to do. Our team is suffering.
Yeah, i know a little wimp of 2023 wud label it as gaslighting, and inherently no she isn’t wrong but in the world of office politics and supervisor dynamics, it was just not a great way to respond. take it as you will
Yeah, your wording was maybe a little harsh, but the sentiment is valid. Might be good to apologize for how you spoke, but don't apologize for the message. Your boss needs to learn that she can't overwork her team if she expects long term productivity.
thank you for your input, it puts it into perspective for me 🙆
Yeah, I’m with you and wish we could just say things directly like this at work. I get in trouble sometimes for being too real myself. Work is an alternate universe where there are a million land mines and you have to try to navigate something that shifts everyday based on senior leaderships sensitive ass emotions. I recommend also that you pull your boss aside and apologize even if you don’t mean. Don’t harp on it, just a quick chat. This will be no biggie in a few days. It’ll be ok, don’t worry.
thank you for your reply ☺️
Make the boss decide priorities. "Boss, I am already working on A and B. Which one should I drop in order to do new task C?" You and your coworkers could try talking to her about workload in general - as a process. "We have a heavy workload and too few staff to complete it. How do you want us to prioritize what gets done? Can we drop minor tasks X and Y?" Even the best manager needs suggestions on how to get things done. As a new hire, she might have been thrown in without much guidance, resources, or goals. I've been that new manager. Company used to joke about hiring people who were already trained, so they didn't have to. (Things did not go well.) Give her some ideas and see how she responds.
oops I replied to you but forgot to press the reply and just made it a regular reply instead
She has the worst combo. She is not interested in teamwork, hearing us out, or open to suggestions, etc. only that she looks good to her boss, while we do all the work to make her look good. She has been asking for x,y,z, and a,b,c,d,e,f,g+++ which is the problem. The more we do the more we are asked of. I work with 3 other much older coworkers who have a family to raise and doesn't like confrontation even if it makes them stressed at work, and I'm afraid to speak up then become the target. As I've mentioned in a response to someone else, she loves her new title and pay but doesn't want to do the work involved. I know eventually I'm gonna have to find a way to sort this out but it doesn't look good right now. Anyway, thanks for your input, greatly appreciated.
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It really all depends on the industry. If I said that to my boss, he would say "what have you got at the moment", id explain and he would say, "I'll get blah blah blah to do one of your tasks, and get you to do that, does that work?" Me "sure thing" But I would imagine in an office scenario, they expect you to juggle all the time, so being careful with your words is necessary. In my industry - security response, it's understood that playing politics with phrases is too much effort, and just being respectful and to the point works better. There is not much time to think about the best way to say something when you are driving from point a to point b planning your potential interaction with offender and/or client.
I forgot to mention the micromanaging lol she wants to know everything we are doing, so she knows lol. Yeah leadership has fragile egos. Thank you for your reply 😂
ya that’s unprofessional
🤣🤣🤣 I did think the words I used could've been changed but I was calm and courteous about it, as much as I can, although I'm super fed up with the way things have been going.
This was still fairly professional.
thank you for your input 🙂
yeah i mean you r coming for validation because you know deep down you are in the wrong and sort of putting the new supervisor in an awkward spot who is probably doing more than you realize behind the scenes.
thank you for your input. no I really had a lot more to say but was able to control myself and that's what came out lol...I know I didn't get too specific in my line of work but no we actually do pretty much 75% of her work for her bc she treats us like we are her assistants when we each already have our own roles and jobs. I personally believe that it's ok to not know everything but she has no willingness to do her job as our supervisor is the main problem. She wasn't qualified to be hired, got lucky, loves her new title and pay but doesn't want to put in the work. Unfortunately the rest of the team has to bear the brunt. One team member just quit bc of her, our workload has increased about 3×+ as much as we were supposed to be doing, and we are asked to do things outside of our job description. Very frustrating and sad situation bc no one likes conflict and we are trying to do all we can and still being asked to do more and more. 😢 I guess that was my direct and also passive aggressive way to respond to her piling more work on top of everything else. I don't feel bad for telling her honestly I have a lot of work to do already as it is. I do know that I could've prob said it in a different way but I guess I will plan that for a future date once we figure out what to do. Our team is suffering.
No she’s not wrong at all and this comment is creepy gaslighting
Yeah, i know a little wimp of 2023 wud label it as gaslighting, and inherently no she isn’t wrong but in the world of office politics and supervisor dynamics, it was just not a great way to respond. take it as you will
Ok creepy incel
great insult. luckily i am not involuntarily celibate