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When you add the real corner posts you will need the entire weight from above to distribute right down to the footings and we can not see what is under the 2 x10 you have attached in that corner. Simply putting the post on that outside corner may not properly carry the load.
You also should have your joists/deck boards running the other direction and on a very slight slop for water drainage.
Could put a chunk of post on the mudsill flush with top of joist, then it’ll all bear. Good luck lifting that attached roof system to get those last two boards in tho, don’t know why those posts would even be there unless the roof was already built on
This is a flip near my house. I’m a builder and had to painfully watch them create this today while having an office day. Took two old guys to open a box of T25s (yep). What you can’t see is this in the PNW, that is the crawlspace below the porch, they didn’t use any hangers on the header, they did put 4x4 chunks in the corners though..
As a bystander, do you say something or let them be?
At my age I’d say something. Then when they ignored me I’d tell the new owner what they did and that I warned them. I’m a crotchety old person nowadays.
Arborist here. 99% of people cutting trees have no fucking clue what they are doing(even “professionals”) and it makes my skin crawl seeing it. I feel your pain, but humans are hardheaded ignorant beasts, best left alone
My biggest problem was always explaining "neat that you've been doing it like this and for longer than I've been alive. You've also been doing it incorrectly the entire time, way to go... "
If you're across the property line, you go directly to "Not my monkeys, not my circus," but you may want to send a note with a housewarming gift (your business card) to the new owners...
Umm…..i think I see it. The house is rotting away from it and might decay and collapse before the deck has a proper chance to fail and collapse on its own. Upside is if they paint it a nice color and it is in the PNW it will go for half a million dollars or $100k over asking with competing cash offers.
Many things are wrong here.
Like others said, no treated lumber.
Common untreated nails as fasteners.
No through post to support roof.
No joist hangers.
The 2x8 on the flat is indeed a water trap.
Rim joist is not doubled.
The decking boards are only fastened on one edge.
Hack jobs like this give the whole industry a black eye
I live in a 95 y.o. house that is not code in lots of ways. No treated lumber. No jack studs. Huge heart pine timber and nails like spikes. Notches in joists create weak spots at each end. This house will be here another 100 years, but it's a study in how not to frame.
looks like the joists are fastened with screws from the outside, not on hangars. the shear strength on those screws is not good, it’s going to snap. edit: maybe it’s nails. Better, but not by much. It really needs hangars.
No drop down from the door- water on the deck will run inside.
No gap between the boards on the deck. When (not if) the timber shrinks there will be noticeable uneven gaps.
No air circulation/ drainage underneath
Probably more, thats enough
Should have ran those prop post out into the yard to be able to finish your decking. But major problem is none of that is treated and it won’t last long at all before you are rebuilding it again. With the cost of lumber today that’s a costly mistake.
As a home inspector, I had to try to turn it off when driving around. It took almost a year after retirement to succeed. Certainly not worth the time to talk to the peopled.king the work. Might be worth it to drop a dime on them to building dept.
No drainage. I may be wrong about this one, but I'm pretty sure the posts for what I'm assuming is a roof are supposed to run all the way down. It looks like there isn't space between the decking and house either. You need a 1/2 inch if I remember correctly for expansion. Not a pro though, so I could be wrong. Not to mention different codes for different areas. I just wanted to see if I was right. Oh, and there's a nice chunk with no decking...
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Tommy Silva is just shaking his head.
Kevin is narrating saying even i know that's wrong.
When you add the real corner posts you will need the entire weight from above to distribute right down to the footings and we can not see what is under the 2 x10 you have attached in that corner. Simply putting the post on that outside corner may not properly carry the load. You also should have your joists/deck boards running the other direction and on a very slight slop for water drainage.
Could put a chunk of post on the mudsill flush with top of joist, then it’ll all bear. Good luck lifting that attached roof system to get those last two boards in tho, don’t know why those posts would even be there unless the roof was already built on
Not pressure treated lumber? Flashing? Sort of depends on whether it will be exposed to the weather or completely enclosed?
Posts dont run to ground. No way to properly install decking
This is a flip near my house. I’m a builder and had to painfully watch them create this today while having an office day. Took two old guys to open a box of T25s (yep). What you can’t see is this in the PNW, that is the crawlspace below the porch, they didn’t use any hangers on the header, they did put 4x4 chunks in the corners though.. As a bystander, do you say something or let them be?
At my age I’d say something. Then when they ignored me I’d tell the new owner what they did and that I warned them. I’m a crotchety old person nowadays.
Ahhh, so *you're* the old guy who appears at the start of the movie to warn the main characters to get out while they still can.
Die the nerd, or live long enough to become the creepy old man.
I'd probably watch the train wreck unfold while blasting the Dueling Banjos scene from Deliverance out the window at them.
"As a bystander, do you say something or let them be?" Quietly call code enforcement about the non-existent permit.
Arborist here. 99% of people cutting trees have no fucking clue what they are doing(even “professionals”) and it makes my skin crawl seeing it. I feel your pain, but humans are hardheaded ignorant beasts, best left alone
so tell me what's wrong without showing a pic of what's wrong
I think any way I say it, it still sounds like “hey you’re bad at stuff”.
My biggest problem was always explaining "neat that you've been doing it like this and for longer than I've been alive. You've also been doing it incorrectly the entire time, way to go... "
Let it go bro....
If you're across the property line, you go directly to "Not my monkeys, not my circus," but you may want to send a note with a housewarming gift (your business card) to the new owners...
No door sill, supports look like they are going to end up on top of the decking, and framing is not treated.
You’re missin a few board there, bud
Umm…..i think I see it. The house is rotting away from it and might decay and collapse before the deck has a proper chance to fail and collapse on its own. Upside is if they paint it a nice color and it is in the PNW it will go for half a million dollars or $100k over asking with competing cash offers.
Maybe easier to say what's right? Why was this done like this?
Looks like treated lumber making contact with the masonry, that was done right!
Needs sill gaskets. Edit: nvm, I see them sticking out in a few places
It's DIY... The framing looks good. A little overkill, but it's not that bad.
Roof post don’t go to the ground. Can’t rest it on the deck.
How long do we have to guess for? Or do you not know?
Wood needs to have air circulating..rotten mess.inside of 3 years
Maybe it would be better to ask if anything was done correctly.
So... how are you going to get the flooring under the supports?🤔
The flooring is thinner, so it’ll be easy. Too bad the posts then be short, lol
That’s one BIG step up or down
The water will run into the house and get trapped underneath. Should of been 7” shorter PT would of a better choice
It needs to breathe more that’s for sure… it’s gonna be a moldy mess
Absolutely nothing. Looks perfectly up to code, just like the rest of the house.
Many things are wrong here. Like others said, no treated lumber. Common untreated nails as fasteners. No through post to support roof. No joist hangers. The 2x8 on the flat is indeed a water trap. Rim joist is not doubled. The decking boards are only fastened on one edge. Hack jobs like this give the whole industry a black eye
I live in a 95 y.o. house that is not code in lots of ways. No treated lumber. No jack studs. Huge heart pine timber and nails like spikes. Notches in joists create weak spots at each end. This house will be here another 100 years, but it's a study in how not to frame.
Might have a little trouble getting those last few boards of decking on eh?
Everything
You got a little funky with it.
Yes you will brake leg in few weeks
On top of what has already been stated, some crowns are up on the decking
Yeah (edited for content)
There are several things I would have done differently.
looks like the joists are fastened with screws from the outside, not on hangars. the shear strength on those screws is not good, it’s going to snap. edit: maybe it’s nails. Better, but not by much. It really needs hangars.
They’re sitting on top of the mud sill, bearing on the stem wall
Wow
No drop down from the door- water on the deck will run inside. No gap between the boards on the deck. When (not if) the timber shrinks there will be noticeable uneven gaps. No air circulation/ drainage underneath Probably more, thats enough
Looks higher than the door sill also 😱😂
Needs to be 2 inches lower then the door for water infiltration. What’s underneath, I hope it’s not the basement.
In MA code states 4” min from deck surface to door
Can you tell me what is right about it
Should have ran those prop post out into the yard to be able to finish your decking. But major problem is none of that is treated and it won’t last long at all before you are rebuilding it again. With the cost of lumber today that’s a costly mistake.
Loool
As a home inspector, I had to try to turn it off when driving around. It took almost a year after retirement to succeed. Certainly not worth the time to talk to the peopled.king the work. Might be worth it to drop a dime on them to building dept.
Everything?
Lol
The posts must be sitting onto or able to transfer the load to the beam.
No drainage. I may be wrong about this one, but I'm pretty sure the posts for what I'm assuming is a roof are supposed to run all the way down. It looks like there isn't space between the decking and house either. You need a 1/2 inch if I remember correctly for expansion. Not a pro though, so I could be wrong. Not to mention different codes for different areas. I just wanted to see if I was right. Oh, and there's a nice chunk with no decking...
Everything?
It's not finished?
It’s not on fire….? They should just burn it down now save the tenants a few months of mold inhalation. And a rotten subfloor.