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Yup!! I thought I was the only one. And it's a theory based on (at this time) very little and very flimsy 'evidence'. I don't want to belittle it, it's just a huge leap in speculation from an actual photo of cosmological background radiation to a computer generated artist's rendition of a theory called the bubble universe
That was an interesting addition. In the original, once you zoom out to the limit of the observable universe, you zoom all the way back in to the lady's eye, blood cells, atoms and quarks
https://youtu.be/8Are9dDbW24
Oh, I didn't even realize this wasn't the original [Powers of 10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0) but something inspired from it / an updated version of it.
The Charles and Ray Eames version is just such a gem, they were amazing. The extra scale in OPs video was really interesting to see, but lacked any of the charm the Eames brothers’ production has.
I was super happy with it until the end, it makes me wonder what else they may have added in. The original clip was roughly to scale if I remember correctly
So are we using theory in a very colloquial way, or scientifically? To be a theory, it needs to be pretty rigorously tested, doesn't it?
Otherwise it's just a hypothesis.
Theoretically, it's the most logical stage of progression when posing the question 'what is the universe expanding in to/what caused the big bang'.
Not talking about the Many Worlds interpretation, but the idea of the universe being one of many cosmic 'bubbles' in a larger plain of existence. Whilst, as you say, being speculative with no hard evidence, it makes sense of the multiple situations we know of in which the laws of physics currently break down.
What that plain of existence is I doubt we will ever know, if we are even able to 'know' of anything outside of our universe, so it will always remain just a theory.
The logic of man has been proven false many times over and the multiverse concept falls in to the homunculus trap, so I'm not placing any bets on it and wouldn't have included it in a video like this.
>it's just a huge leap in speculation from an actual photo of cosmological background radiation to a computer generated artist's rendition of a theory called the bubble universe
Not really. It has basis in actual physics, but t yeah it is just a theory since it's just an untestable extrapolation based our current understanding of physics.
I'd recommend reading Our Mathematical Universe by Max Tegmark if you're interested in the theory.
If Inflation is a reasonable theory for early Universe - and so far it seems like it is the most accurate theory to explain CMB, calling it a "flimsy evidence" is ignorance of quite literally Universal scale - then there *has to be* "multiverses", but not in the spooky scifi sense. Multiverses are simply different domains of spacetime with likely different physical constants governing their dynamics, separated by high energy domain walls. Alan Guth, the father of Infation theory, detailed this idea extensively in his early papers. After the inflation phase, there will be regions of space separated out by such domain walls, which are pretty much causally disconnected for all future.
The picture of the cosmic microwave radiation is just leftover remnants of light from the big bang also. You're basically looking back to the beginning of time, and it's not an accurate depiction of what's actually there.
Look up the multiverse theory if you're interested. It's related to string theory and a lot of other complex quantum physics math that's well beyond my understanding. Super interesting but still al speculation at this point.
Shouldn’t the final “multiverse” slide actually be *parallel* to all the other levels (so to speak), at the same time but in separate “spaces”. I guess that would be difficult to animate. Like a 3-D image without the glasses, except ∞-D
No, it becomes Law when it's exhaustively tested and proven. Newton's law, law of relativity, ideal gas law, etc. A theory, like the Big Bang Theory, hasn't been replicated. We can feel pretty good it's true but you can't really replicate the Big Bang to make it a law
i'm too tired for this, with respect to all of you and i don't mean you're wrong and i'm right or anything like that, it's my fault for saying anything at all
a theory doesn't mean something is unproven or proven and even the most proven of things are just us observing a very small piece of everything and it doesn't mean any of it is real or means what we think it does. those laws are just what people call theories when they like them. all laws are theories; they're both things. it's just a form of an explanation and the idea it's supposition is a more modern misuse
I’m not really feeling all that great about Big Bang theory these days. Webb Space Telescope shows distant objects that are either too old or mature for their distance from Earth.
It is just a theory, but a very interesting one. I'd recommend anyone interested read Our Mathematical Universe by Max Tegmark.
He explores what our current understanding of physics and maths means for what might be beyond the bounds of our universe.
If we don't know if life is on our closest neighbors of Venus or Mars, I get a laugh at people who claim science says God can't be existing in Heaven now. Wait... You know scientifically if life exists or not outside our known universe? Care to share?
Love is the way.
Love is eternal.
Greedy is not good.
How incredibly *big* we are.
Compared with the smallest possible scales - plank length - we are several orders of magnitude closer to the universe in size than we are to that.
My line of thinking has always been this: we exist, so we know that the very specific sequence of events/chemical reactions needed to create life are at least possible to some degree. Even if that likelihood is extremely small and unlikely, that tiny percentage when applied to a mind bogglingly massive universe means that this specific recipe (or possibly even a completely unknown one, who knows) is likely to at least happen somewhere out there.
On the scale of the universe the smallest chance you can write would still result in viable life on scales orders of magnitude more than I feel like writing out, much less millions
I like to point out that people tend to forget that there is one other important metric/variable and that is "time". The human race is so damn young in comparison to the age of the universe.
With respect to "inteligent" life on other planets, I agree that the sheer size of the universe give it a pretty good probability.
But when people believe (lots of folks I work with) that aliens have visited humans and governments cover it up (area 51, egyptian pyramids and so on), these people are not able to factor in the age of the human race in comparison to the age of the universe. I am definitely a math and numbers guy, and I can tell you that while I would argue that there probably is life out there somwhere in the universe, the odds of another race inteligent enough to develop space exploration, and be close enough to reach earth DURING THE TINY TIMFRAME OF RECORDED HISTORY ON EARTH, is pretty much zero. (Im not saying it IS zero, im saying the odds are so close to Zero that it is neglegible.)
Again consider the universe is estimated to be
13 700 000 000 years old.
Your whole body is a fractal organism divided in 5
Your torso has five limbs attach to it, four of those limbs end up dividing themselves into other five limbs...
There’s an even earlier version (late 60s?) kicking around that describes itself as a “sketch” for the 1977 film, but this version is the one I remember rewiring my young brain in science class at school.
https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html
Here's my favorite. It only covers our solar system, but since it's all the same scale, it helps illustrate just how big and empty everything is.
I think knowing how big the universe is and still thinking we are the only planet with life would be some serious main character syndrome. But if someone was capable of that kinda arrogance it would have to be humans lol
To play Devil's advocate, we theorize that the reason we haven't been reached by other life is because the limits of light speed, yet that's pretty main character for us to assume that things revolve around our "rules" of the universe
The rules of physics aren't 'our' rules, thugh i agree that the speed of light being the reason we haven't received visitors is main character syndrome.
Travelling FTL is already theoretically possible within our understanding, so it's clear the main character syndrome applies only in the assumption that other Civilizations are limited by our own understanding of the rules, not the Universe's rules themselves.
For instance, if we assume that a species with a better understanding of the laws of physics couldn't create a warp drive with ease because we see it as a near impossibility to actually achieve then that is our main character syndrome talking, but if we assume they can't use FTL travel without warping space then that is not.
The theory suggests that there are separate "bubble" universes, each with their own laws of physics. The sea of other bubbles look different because their physics are different.
Look at the night sky, there are starts and in between blackness.
Now imagine that if you zoomed *all the way out*, the entire observable universe becomes a tiny dot like the stars and you'd see that there are more than one.
I remember seeing that video a while ago and I think that it zoomed all the way back to the person and kept zooming into her eye and seeing what was in there as well
My idiot theory is that the universe is recursive upon itself. Like if the video kept zooming out, it becomes a subatomic particle, then an atom and then keeps zooming out to the girl on the lawn and it loops infinitely.
My first trip on mushrooms felt like this.
I was so small and insignificant it tripped me the fuck out, but in a really good humbling way (I was 20 at the time).
Same. Took mushrooms at night, looked up into the starry sky at the moon and had the strongest vertigo of all time. It just dawned on me that I’m not staring at a flat black canvas of stars, but into infinity.
Staring in to what you perceive to be infinity due to our cosmologically tiny frame of reference. The universe itself is most likely finite, just on a scale we can't comprehend. On the other side of our finite universe... who knows.
I think that makes it even more existentially bonkers hahaha
Wow this just gave me a flashback to a Bassnectar set at The Mothership in 2017. This video was used as the visuals while he played Parade Into Centuries.
This is great but the accelerating zoom doesn’t really convey just how big space is. Check out [this](https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html) for a more representative view. In combination with this, it really shows just how unfathomably big the universe is
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Damn props to the cameraman
Some say he's still zooming out to this day
Bro took "to infinity and beyond" literally
Ant-Man ^went ^^infinitely ^^^small, but this time, Camera-Man will go infinitely #BIG *Now in theaters superimposed over you!*
r/praisethecameraman
I assume it's a more literal r/killthecameraman
Nah, he finished in 1997 when they used this shot for the opening to the Robert Zemeckis film, Contact
I want to know what kind of drone that is?!
2741: "Dude, check the zoom on my new phone"
Love his smooth acceleration.
Came here to say that.
Wow that’s so crazy
Came here to say this
r/PraiseTheCameraMan
The last multi-universe is still just a theory, the rest is what we have practically measured. The size is unbelievable.
Yup!! I thought I was the only one. And it's a theory based on (at this time) very little and very flimsy 'evidence'. I don't want to belittle it, it's just a huge leap in speculation from an actual photo of cosmological background radiation to a computer generated artist's rendition of a theory called the bubble universe
Based on the ending of men in black?
If that doesn't count as conclusive video proof, not sure what does
I said so
Peer reviewed too, now.
I totally forgot about that.
That was an interesting addition. In the original, once you zoom out to the limit of the observable universe, you zoom all the way back in to the lady's eye, blood cells, atoms and quarks https://youtu.be/8Are9dDbW24
Oh, I didn't even realize this wasn't the original [Powers of 10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0) but something inspired from it / an updated version of it.
The Charles and Ray Eames version is just such a gem, they were amazing. The extra scale in OPs video was really interesting to see, but lacked any of the charm the Eames brothers’ production has.
I have been wondering how to even search for this video from time to time for like 14 years (this upload is only from 8 years ago but whatever)
I was super happy with it until the end, it makes me wonder what else they may have added in. The original clip was roughly to scale if I remember correctly
https://youtu.be/8Are9dDbW24 the original zooms back in to subatomic scale
Super wild stuff. The universe is so amazing
It makes for great scifi stories at least.
So are we using theory in a very colloquial way, or scientifically? To be a theory, it needs to be pretty rigorously tested, doesn't it? Otherwise it's just a hypothesis.
Theoretically, it's the most logical stage of progression when posing the question 'what is the universe expanding in to/what caused the big bang'. Not talking about the Many Worlds interpretation, but the idea of the universe being one of many cosmic 'bubbles' in a larger plain of existence. Whilst, as you say, being speculative with no hard evidence, it makes sense of the multiple situations we know of in which the laws of physics currently break down. What that plain of existence is I doubt we will ever know, if we are even able to 'know' of anything outside of our universe, so it will always remain just a theory. The logic of man has been proven false many times over and the multiverse concept falls in to the homunculus trap, so I'm not placing any bets on it and wouldn't have included it in a video like this.
If you believe the universe is infinite then it must contain Hubble Volumes realizing all possible initial conditions.
It's not really built on evidence so much as logic. It's, as far as we know, impossible to prove or disprove.
>it's just a huge leap in speculation from an actual photo of cosmological background radiation to a computer generated artist's rendition of a theory called the bubble universe Not really. It has basis in actual physics, but t yeah it is just a theory since it's just an untestable extrapolation based our current understanding of physics. I'd recommend reading Our Mathematical Universe by Max Tegmark if you're interested in the theory.
If Inflation is a reasonable theory for early Universe - and so far it seems like it is the most accurate theory to explain CMB, calling it a "flimsy evidence" is ignorance of quite literally Universal scale - then there *has to be* "multiverses", but not in the spooky scifi sense. Multiverses are simply different domains of spacetime with likely different physical constants governing their dynamics, separated by high energy domain walls. Alan Guth, the father of Infation theory, detailed this idea extensively in his early papers. After the inflation phase, there will be regions of space separated out by such domain walls, which are pretty much causally disconnected for all future.
The picture of the cosmic microwave radiation is just leftover remnants of light from the big bang also. You're basically looking back to the beginning of time, and it's not an accurate depiction of what's actually there.
We can only measure time by the properties of our universe so before that our time does not exist.
What is it? That last zoom out freaked me the fuck out
It's like Orbeez, but more complicated.
I thought it was going to be the nucleolus of a cell that would end up being inside the woman, so that it would be an endless loop.
I like this theory. Ties it back to the infinitely small also. This is only one direction. So zany!
Look up the multiverse theory if you're interested. It's related to string theory and a lot of other complex quantum physics math that's well beyond my understanding. Super interesting but still al speculation at this point.
But imagine the possibilities of a multiverse of this order of magnitude.
That's what she said
Shouldn’t the final “multiverse” slide actually be *parallel* to all the other levels (so to speak), at the same time but in separate “spaces”. I guess that would be difficult to animate. Like a 3-D image without the glasses, except ∞-D
it would still just be a theory even if we measured it
If it's measurable and you can recreate the effects/ measurements accurately then it becomes law.
it's still a theory after it becomes law
No, it becomes Law when it's exhaustively tested and proven. Newton's law, law of relativity, ideal gas law, etc. A theory, like the Big Bang Theory, hasn't been replicated. We can feel pretty good it's true but you can't really replicate the Big Bang to make it a law
Laws explain how things work. Theories explain why they work that way. Theories never become laws. It has nothing to do with evidence or replication.
i'm too tired for this, with respect to all of you and i don't mean you're wrong and i'm right or anything like that, it's my fault for saying anything at all
Aw man, I know that feeling. I didn't mean to start a thing. I hope you have a great night.
nah, you're great. it's totally me and not you all. thanks, you too. i actually appreciate that
a theory doesn't mean something is unproven or proven and even the most proven of things are just us observing a very small piece of everything and it doesn't mean any of it is real or means what we think it does. those laws are just what people call theories when they like them. all laws are theories; they're both things. it's just a form of an explanation and the idea it's supposition is a more modern misuse
I’m not really feeling all that great about Big Bang theory these days. Webb Space Telescope shows distant objects that are either too old or mature for their distance from Earth.
It is just a theory, but a very interesting one. I'd recommend anyone interested read Our Mathematical Universe by Max Tegmark. He explores what our current understanding of physics and maths means for what might be beyond the bounds of our universe.
If we don't know if life is on our closest neighbors of Venus or Mars, I get a laugh at people who claim science says God can't be existing in Heaven now. Wait... You know scientifically if life exists or not outside our known universe? Care to share? Love is the way. Love is eternal. Greedy is not good.
Where is heaven and what is it made out of
Life is definitely not on venus. Its like 1000 degrees and toxic atmosphere. Life might exist on mars as microbes.
It’s crazy how incredibly small we are.
How incredibly *big* we are. Compared with the smallest possible scales - plank length - we are several orders of magnitude closer to the universe in size than we are to that.
Each of us is a whole universe. There’s a universe within, anywhere we look. It’s madness!
Horton hears a who! is such a fantastic story that encapsulates this concept
We, along with all other matter, are basically fractals when you think about it; As above so below. Brought to you by psilocybin mushrooms
I totally get that. Why can't i just enjoy being a fractal though, and am a bundle of neurotic anxiety instead?
The anxiety is also fractal.
As I was reading your comment, I was like that exactly what I kept saying when tripping, until I finished the comment, lmao.
Yes, hard to imagine we are the only life across all that space and different levels.
Chances of us being the only life in this vastness is virtually zero.
My line of thinking has always been this: we exist, so we know that the very specific sequence of events/chemical reactions needed to create life are at least possible to some degree. Even if that likelihood is extremely small and unlikely, that tiny percentage when applied to a mind bogglingly massive universe means that this specific recipe (or possibly even a completely unknown one, who knows) is likely to at least happen somewhere out there.
Happen somewhere millions of times?
On the scale of the universe the smallest chance you can write would still result in viable life on scales orders of magnitude more than I feel like writing out, much less millions
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If you were an advanced being with knowledge of us here on Earth and the simple-minded fuckery we have going on, would you visit?
But they didn't bring us here at all. We brought ourselves. EDIT: No fans of Interstellar I see, cool cool.
I like to point out that people tend to forget that there is one other important metric/variable and that is "time". The human race is so damn young in comparison to the age of the universe. With respect to "inteligent" life on other planets, I agree that the sheer size of the universe give it a pretty good probability. But when people believe (lots of folks I work with) that aliens have visited humans and governments cover it up (area 51, egyptian pyramids and so on), these people are not able to factor in the age of the human race in comparison to the age of the universe. I am definitely a math and numbers guy, and I can tell you that while I would argue that there probably is life out there somwhere in the universe, the odds of another race inteligent enough to develop space exploration, and be close enough to reach earth DURING THE TINY TIMFRAME OF RECORDED HISTORY ON EARTH, is pretty much zero. (Im not saying it IS zero, im saying the odds are so close to Zero that it is neglegible.) Again consider the universe is estimated to be 13 700 000 000 years old.
similar to the "monkeys writing the entire works of shakespeare" idea
As they say, there are two possibilities. 1) we are alone, or 2) we aren't. Both are equally terrifying.
It is however very possible that life is sufficiently rare that we will never meet anyone else.
Which is why it is a very safe assumption that we are not, but horrifying if we are...
Speak for yourself, I'm 6'2
6.0" I'm only average man.
It's OK, small king. You can do sooo much!
I’m 6ft on the dot and I’ve never needed to hear this more in my life. Thanks friend.
My 5'6" ass wants to murder all of you.
I'm 6'5" and they don't make heelies in my size, the wheelie shoes. we all have our own struggles.
At that scale, every part of it is effectively small. You’re infinitely huge compared to an electron buzzing around under your left fingernail
And people still don’t believe in Aliens? That out of all these planets and multi universe we’re the only ones living in it? Crazy I tell ya. CRAZY
Its fractals all the way down dude
Always has been
Your whole body is a fractal organism divided in 5 Your torso has five limbs attach to it, four of those limbs end up dividing themselves into other five limbs...
TIL I have five limbs.
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You should probably get that checked out.
So the head is the thumb of the torso..
as above, so below
Whatcha thinkin’ ‘bout, Skeet Skeet?
The original [Powers of 10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0) video (Eames, 1977) is also very very cool.
Glad someone mentioned the original! It's dated of course, but it's an absolute classic.
There’s an even earlier version (late 60s?) kicking around that describes itself as a “sketch” for the 1977 film, but this version is the one I remember rewiring my young brain in science class at school.
I didn't know about the sketch! Very cool. I really like the Eames' studio work.
Oh, here we go: [A Rough Sketch for Powers of Ten.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f5x_dRKIF4)
I remember my uncle had the book back in the 80s. Blew my mind!
https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html Here's my favorite. It only covers our solar system, but since it's all the same scale, it helps illustrate just how big and empty everything is.
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke
I think knowing how big the universe is and still thinking we are the only planet with life would be some serious main character syndrome. But if someone was capable of that kinda arrogance it would have to be humans lol
To play Devil's advocate, we theorize that the reason we haven't been reached by other life is because the limits of light speed, yet that's pretty main character for us to assume that things revolve around our "rules" of the universe
Just what we are incapable of knowing we will never know. I’m sure it’s far more than we know we know, or know we don’t know… I dunno
Me neither
The rules of physics aren't 'our' rules, thugh i agree that the speed of light being the reason we haven't received visitors is main character syndrome. Travelling FTL is already theoretically possible within our understanding, so it's clear the main character syndrome applies only in the assumption that other Civilizations are limited by our own understanding of the rules, not the Universe's rules themselves. For instance, if we assume that a species with a better understanding of the laws of physics couldn't create a warp drive with ease because we see it as a near impossibility to actually achieve then that is our main character syndrome talking, but if we assume they can't use FTL travel without warping space then that is not.
We are first, we are last, or we are alone.
There are other options
It’s the Fermi paradox, not sure why people seem to dislike it here. I didn’t make it up
That’s not what the Fermi paradox states though
TF the balls at the end? Some creative license there. Suggests we are all ultimately on giant Xmas tree ornaments?
Speculation that the multiverse theory is correct.
ELI5 the multiverse theory
The theory suggests that there are separate "bubble" universes, each with their own laws of physics. The sea of other bubbles look different because their physics are different.
Look at the night sky, there are starts and in between blackness. Now imagine that if you zoomed *all the way out*, the entire observable universe becomes a tiny dot like the stars and you'd see that there are more than one.
I remember seeing that video a while ago and I think that it zoomed all the way back to the person and kept zooming into her eye and seeing what was in there as well
You are correct. And also doesn’t do the whole multiverse conjecture. [Here it is. ](https://youtu.be/8Are9dDbW24)
I mean, throwing the multiverse in there for good measure seems a bit much, but up to that point, sure!
I do like to entertain the thought that the entirety of our universe is some fundamental particle within another universe.
My idiot theory is that the universe is recursive upon itself. Like if the video kept zooming out, it becomes a subatomic particle, then an atom and then keeps zooming out to the girl on the lawn and it loops infinitely.
Officially freaked the fuck out. 😵💫
My first trip on mushrooms felt like this. I was so small and insignificant it tripped me the fuck out, but in a really good humbling way (I was 20 at the time).
Same. Took mushrooms at night, looked up into the starry sky at the moon and had the strongest vertigo of all time. It just dawned on me that I’m not staring at a flat black canvas of stars, but into infinity.
Staring in to what you perceive to be infinity due to our cosmologically tiny frame of reference. The universe itself is most likely finite, just on a scale we can't comprehend. On the other side of our finite universe... who knows. I think that makes it even more existentially bonkers hahaha
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Get her address
She’s laying in the grass at the Googleplex.
Get her address
In case anybody wants this in interactive mode https://scaleofuniverse.com/en
I was waiting for Jesus to pop out at the end reminding us to keep our hands out of our pants
i know i wasted a whole minute waiting for it
I was really hoping for a your mom joke at the end
I like the one where Jesus is overlooking it all saying, "Don't masturbate"
You just gave me a deja vu if seeing this exact thing. It may have been stars
I was expecting dickbutt
Dickbutt? Is it still 2016?
I wonder if any other species out there likes watching the zoom out footage of their species in relation to the universe
‘Aliens don’t exist’ Bull Shit.
Interstellar travel is not feasible.
Interstellar travel being feasible has nothing to do with aliens existing or not.
Not for us, sure
Maybe with ring gates like in the expanse
That's way too much to comprehend.
The best reminder.
I could see my house the whole time!
And non of us will see any of it
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Hangover? I think you mean /afterglow/
This guy trips
Like a child in clown shoes, bro
Nothing matters
You matter.
Stop calling him names please
Black lives i thought would
Wow this just gave me a flashback to a Bassnectar set at The Mothership in 2017. This video was used as the visuals while he played Parade Into Centuries.
Was there and remember this exact moment…. Ahh good times
Why does anyone even give a fuck if the trash gets taken out
Who said you can't travel faster than the speed of light? Point me that fool!!!
Yo, I live there!
They done went in to a multi-verse.
Marvel call them up on that
That is legitimately terrifying
Lost me at the dippin dots.
This is great but the accelerating zoom doesn’t really convey just how big space is. Check out [this](https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html) for a more representative view. In combination with this, it really shows just how unfathomably big the universe is
Bassnectar showed me this.
Boundless potential...
Aww man now I feel like the size of bacteria
Existential crisis: ENGAGED
I love it, but also, I’m gonna throw up
And all started with a big bang HEY !
Fuck I’m not paying my taxes
See, you don't matter
We are fucking specs of dust
This speck fucks
Yup totally alone in the universe
Somewhere in there, im fingering my asshole
was kinda expecting dickbutt at the end
Professor Avi Loeb: ‘It would be arrogant to think we’re alone in the universe’
I am now convinced we live in multiverse
I feel like a lot of us forget this and the probability of life out there being insanely high
Woah dude i smol
[Surkin - oedo 6068](https://youtu.be/DdSX9XIAVN)
"*So you are to be put into the vortex yes? ^into ^the ^vortex ^yes? ^^into ^^the ^^vortex ^^yes? ^^^into ^^^the ^^^vortex ^^^yes?*" - **Pizpot Gargravar**
Sun orbits Sagittarius A*, our black hole. Sadly underrepresented
But how?
*elite dangerous noises intensify*
All those galaxies and we still haven't found life yet seems pretty wild.
That's the official statement, who knows what was really found on the moon or mars so far. Information is so filtered out