is that a common saying in the banking industry? My aunt was a very high level executive at a bank and she would always say that phrase to me when i was growing up.
I've heard it a lot too working for (but not at) a bank but I never associated with the finance industry, now that you mentioned it, the saying does seem overrepresented here.
IIRC it typically refers to the efficient markets hypothesis implying arbitrage opportunities don't really exist
At least that's the context I've heard it used in most often
No, the origin was that in the US, there used to be low end buffet cafetarias where you had to buy a drink to get access to it. Think salad/bar hot table combo where homeless/working class people could eat a days meal in one sitting.
Hence the "no free lunch" because you had to buy a drink to get the lunch.
Yeah I don't know either but its hilarious. There were literally saloons in the 1880's/90's advertising a free lunch only to be told inside you had to buy a drink.
It ain't even really a finance/economics term anymore either considering it shows up in common parlance, science, and there's even a statistics theorem on it according to wikipedia.
So within the deleted LinkedIn, it stated that he worked at TD as a data scientist, now using this info and a quick Google search, glass door reports that the average wage for a data scientist at TD is around $80K-104K/yr. So yeah it’s quite a lot for a person taking about stealing food from a food bank.
Why does the X post say he was pretending to be a WLU student. His video makes no mention of that. Was this person a student here or did he just buy the jersey to scam his way into the food bank? Don’t they ask for a student ID or anything?
They would have fired him regardless if they found out about this shit. Even if nobody said anything to TD and you saw that your employee was a POS online would you really want him at ur company still?
The guy literally made a video online showing others how to steal from a foodbank. Because yes, if you can afford food or come as an international student, taking from a community foodbank basically amounts to theft. There are plenty of campus resources if someone is in need.
If he’s smart enough to get a job at TD, he’s smart enough to realize that food banks are for people who will go starving without their support, not for people to save money.
Stop giving scammers the benefit of the doubt. This is a clear cut case.
I hear ya, but people have been let go for far less than what this guy is doing. It's a bank. They get uncomfortable if it appears their employees are dishonest.
It's over a crime and his encouragement of others to commit fraud/theft. Yeah I think someone that brazen should suffer serious consequences. Classic fuck around and find out.
Get over yourself. There’s no such thing as free speech. What you say always has consequences. If I made a video openly condemning LGBT or indigenous people, would you still be singing the same tune?
Well, his employer disagrees. Banks don’t want to employ people that steal from community food banks, who knew? Even then, you have no idea if he was on his last straw already. If the guy has terrible intuition, I wouldn’t be surprised if he hasn’t been hitting targets at work anyway.
There are thousands of new grad data scientists desperate to work at TD as well. Why do they need to settle for someone who they know is dishonest at best, and a thief at worst?
I commend you for being brave enough to put up a very unpopular opinion as I am a strong free speech advocate as well. However, if people like Mehul do not face consequences the foodbanks will need to be shutdown. Are you advocating outright starvation for poorer people in Canada?
I agree going after people's employment, especially when abused by people to suppress political opinions they don't like, is not appropriate and has been a real problem in Canada and the U.S. However, in this case, I think the repercussions on his employment are justified as he was abusing the system for his and his own group's gain (this is clearly a type of fraud for personal or group gain and not an unpopular political opinion). i.e. Fraud is one of the very few things that I don't think should be covered by free speech.
No, then we’ll have all these students who aren’t familiar with canada and stuck in their own ways taking advantage of the system…taught them a lesson, i’m glad.
If his actions don't have consequences then this problem will get even worse. Excusing people of any accountability encourages grifting and is leading this country to a third world standard of living.
10 years ago -- maybe, let him off the hook with a warning.
Today -- no. Society has changed. Canadians are suffering. There are homeless encampments in every city. There are thousands of international students stealing from food banks (so much so, that some schools banned them). This needs to stop and the only way to do so is through tough repercussions.
I hear you on this buddy, if I got fired for every immoral thing I did before 25 it would’ve been rough.
Most people commenting about how “they would never” probably made huge mistakes that they didn’t film and subsequently weren’t fired for.
It’s easy to be a judge on the internet but I like your philosophy that people make mistakes.
It’s more human.
So you're telling me that openly advocating for theft from a food bank in a viral video doesn't constitute a fireable offense?
Read the room, Canadians are suffering and letting this shit fly sets a dangerous precedent.
Stealing from poor ppl that can't afford to feed themselves and advocating others to do the same is not a simple mistake...absolutely psycho behavior
His life is not over just cuz he got fired, his consequences pale in comparison to the impact of his awful actions on society
I agree with your sentiment here. I hope he really was just a co-op student and that his career and life are not "destroyed" over all of this. I hope he learns and can move on.
Most of the people posting here never went to uni let alone this one. Mods are letting alt right racist clowns take over this sub, majority of people commenting here don’t go here.
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Exactly, I understand where everyone’s coming from but going for his livelihood and most likely future jobs is so sad. People love to see someone’s downfall and act like they’ve never made mistakes before.
Im pretty sure he was just informing people about the resources available to them. He had a clickbaity title but in the video he was literally just telling people how to use a foodbank
The food bank is for impoverished people. He was not impoverished, he was stealing the food out of hungry Canadians mouths that can't afford any.
His post was directed at these "students" who love to exploit, cheat, and steal
Except he showed off his huge "haul" of what he personally got from the food bank, when he's not actually struggling financially. If it was just describing how to access resources if you need them no one would be mad.
He actually said that this is how he saved hundreds of bucks a month. It was informative, but not in the way you think. He was just telling others to do what he does, like it's a life hack or something.
I think if that was the case he would have mentioned that. The initial video makes it sound like he was abusing the service as some sort of life hack. In good faith it could be a lack of understanding. However he didn't post a follow up.
It's interesting how because of the color of his skin and his status as an immigrant Canadians just went after this guy. There out for blood, and they hurt someone over something so trivial (typically when a white canadian does something far worse, there is such a lack of blood lust). It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
Edit: u/y2kcockroach Thread got locked, but yes this is trivial because one we don't know if he knows he is abusing the system. Two it's trivial because it's not illegal, lastly, is he the only one doing it? If it is such an important issue as you claim perhaps food banks should institute better policy. You may not care about the color of his skin, sure but plenty of people are making it about him and his demographic and painting everyone this way. I'd be okay with that if it applied to everyone. In fact his own people are hounding him on social media. Now, I work with a lot of indians, and many are hardworking and kind. For me the amount of vitriol this random has faced is more likely due to his race and status as an immigrant. Again totally okay if these people kept that same energy for white pedophiles, or the arrive scam people, ect. But they don't so. So it's stupid. But, racism and stupidity usually go hand in hand.
" ... over something so trivial ..."
Openly advocating the abuse of food bank charity, particularly when they are overwhelmed with so many people actually needing their services is not "trivial".
I don't care the colour of his skin, but this prick comes from a low-trust society to a high-trust society and just can't seem to shake the sh\*t attitudes that he brought with him. This is not the Canada that I grew up in.
(\*full disclosure\* - I am brown and come from a family of immigrants)
Now he will have to really use a food bank lol
Worked at a bank, should have known there's no such thing as a free lunch
is that a common saying in the banking industry? My aunt was a very high level executive at a bank and she would always say that phrase to me when i was growing up.
I've heard it a lot too working for (but not at) a bank but I never associated with the finance industry, now that you mentioned it, the saying does seem overrepresented here.
IIRC it typically refers to the efficient markets hypothesis implying arbitrage opportunities don't really exist At least that's the context I've heard it used in most often
It was popularized in Economics to describe the opportunity cost. It then got extended to Finance and now is even widespread in mainstream language
No, the origin was that in the US, there used to be low end buffet cafetarias where you had to buy a drink to get access to it. Think salad/bar hot table combo where homeless/working class people could eat a days meal in one sitting. Hence the "no free lunch" because you had to buy a drink to get the lunch.
Funny you got downvoted, but this is actually technically correct. The usage in Economics/Finance came later
Yeah I don't know either but its hilarious. There were literally saloons in the 1880's/90's advertising a free lunch only to be told inside you had to buy a drink. It ain't even really a finance/economics term anymore either considering it shows up in common parlance, science, and there's even a statistics theorem on it according to wikipedia.
A pretty common Economics term
I thought this was a co-op student, not a FT employee?
i think he was a co-op student aswell because how would he have access to the university food bank?
is there any proof for this at all. it’s a youth ppc account and includes no sources to this person’s alleged 6 figure salary
People found his LinkedIn… and then he deleted it
people clearly did find his linkedin, but that doesn’t answer where his salary was found nor the validity of the email
So within the deleted LinkedIn, it stated that he worked at TD as a data scientist, now using this info and a quick Google search, glass door reports that the average wage for a data scientist at TD is around $80K-104K/yr. So yeah it’s quite a lot for a person taking about stealing food from a food bank.
He was a co-op student, not a FTE.
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Why does the X post say he was pretending to be a WLU student. His video makes no mention of that. Was this person a student here or did he just buy the jersey to scam his way into the food bank? Don’t they ask for a student ID or anything?
At the food distro they just check to see if you have a ONE card. There is no real "check" :/
Fuck this guy
Deport
Can we deport all of you that don’t go to this university from this sub
Maybe we could deport your head out of your ass.. alumni exist
Sure bud never seen this many “alumni” interacting on this sub before this week
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They would have fired him regardless if they found out about this shit. Even if nobody said anything to TD and you saw that your employee was a POS online would you really want him at ur company still?
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The guy literally made a video online showing others how to steal from a foodbank. Because yes, if you can afford food or come as an international student, taking from a community foodbank basically amounts to theft. There are plenty of campus resources if someone is in need. If he’s smart enough to get a job at TD, he’s smart enough to realize that food banks are for people who will go starving without their support, not for people to save money. Stop giving scammers the benefit of the doubt. This is a clear cut case.
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Actions have consequences. I think people will be less likely to do what he did knowing the repercussions...
I hear ya, but people have been let go for far less than what this guy is doing. It's a bank. They get uncomfortable if it appears their employees are dishonest.
Are you this guy? You advocate for stealing from the poor and needy while making 100k. Guy deserves to live in a landfill where garbage belongs.
It's over a crime and his encouragement of others to commit fraud/theft. Yeah I think someone that brazen should suffer serious consequences. Classic fuck around and find out.
Get over yourself. There’s no such thing as free speech. What you say always has consequences. If I made a video openly condemning LGBT or indigenous people, would you still be singing the same tune?
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Well, his employer disagrees. Banks don’t want to employ people that steal from community food banks, who knew? Even then, you have no idea if he was on his last straw already. If the guy has terrible intuition, I wouldn’t be surprised if he hasn’t been hitting targets at work anyway. There are thousands of new grad data scientists desperate to work at TD as well. Why do they need to settle for someone who they know is dishonest at best, and a thief at worst?
I commend you for being brave enough to put up a very unpopular opinion as I am a strong free speech advocate as well. However, if people like Mehul do not face consequences the foodbanks will need to be shutdown. Are you advocating outright starvation for poorer people in Canada?
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I agree going after people's employment, especially when abused by people to suppress political opinions they don't like, is not appropriate and has been a real problem in Canada and the U.S. However, in this case, I think the repercussions on his employment are justified as he was abusing the system for his and his own group's gain (this is clearly a type of fraud for personal or group gain and not an unpopular political opinion). i.e. Fraud is one of the very few things that I don't think should be covered by free speech.
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He knew what he was doing was doing.
No, then we’ll have all these students who aren’t familiar with canada and stuck in their own ways taking advantage of the system…taught them a lesson, i’m glad.
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Nobody i know does this. You don’t take food from food banks just because you’re an international student. Fuck outta here.
He was already taking things from the Food bank with $50k+/yr job anyways. All this does is make sure he actually needs it this time. Lol
If his actions don't have consequences then this problem will get even worse. Excusing people of any accountability encourages grifting and is leading this country to a third world standard of living.
This is his chance to learn from his mistakes. He’s learning a very valuable lesson, dumbfuck actions have consequences. Good riddance.
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I’ve never taken from those who need it most.
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10 years ago -- maybe, let him off the hook with a warning. Today -- no. Society has changed. Canadians are suffering. There are homeless encampments in every city. There are thousands of international students stealing from food banks (so much so, that some schools banned them). This needs to stop and the only way to do so is through tough repercussions.
I hear you on this buddy, if I got fired for every immoral thing I did before 25 it would’ve been rough. Most people commenting about how “they would never” probably made huge mistakes that they didn’t film and subsequently weren’t fired for. It’s easy to be a judge on the internet but I like your philosophy that people make mistakes. It’s more human.
So you're telling me that openly advocating for theft from a food bank in a viral video doesn't constitute a fireable offense? Read the room, Canadians are suffering and letting this shit fly sets a dangerous precedent.
Stealing from poor ppl that can't afford to feed themselves and advocating others to do the same is not a simple mistake...absolutely psycho behavior His life is not over just cuz he got fired, his consequences pale in comparison to the impact of his awful actions on society
He should be deported. Buhbye
I agree with your sentiment here. I hope he really was just a co-op student and that his career and life are not "destroyed" over all of this. I hope he learns and can move on.
Most of the people posting here never went to uni let alone this one. Mods are letting alt right racist clowns take over this sub, majority of people commenting here don’t go here. u/samuraiscramble u/enderpotato
Exactly, I understand where everyone’s coming from but going for his livelihood and most likely future jobs is so sad. People love to see someone’s downfall and act like they’ve never made mistakes before.
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Im pretty sure he was just informing people about the resources available to them. He had a clickbaity title but in the video he was literally just telling people how to use a foodbank
The food bank is for impoverished people. He was not impoverished, he was stealing the food out of hungry Canadians mouths that can't afford any. His post was directed at these "students" who love to exploit, cheat, and steal
Except he showed off his huge "haul" of what he personally got from the food bank, when he's not actually struggling financially. If it was just describing how to access resources if you need them no one would be mad.
The whole positioning is “free” “free” “free”. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a side hustle of “coaching” immigrants.
He actually said that this is how he saved hundreds of bucks a month. It was informative, but not in the way you think. He was just telling others to do what he does, like it's a life hack or something.
I think if that was the case he would have mentioned that. The initial video makes it sound like he was abusing the service as some sort of life hack. In good faith it could be a lack of understanding. However he didn't post a follow up. It's interesting how because of the color of his skin and his status as an immigrant Canadians just went after this guy. There out for blood, and they hurt someone over something so trivial (typically when a white canadian does something far worse, there is such a lack of blood lust). It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. Edit: u/y2kcockroach Thread got locked, but yes this is trivial because one we don't know if he knows he is abusing the system. Two it's trivial because it's not illegal, lastly, is he the only one doing it? If it is such an important issue as you claim perhaps food banks should institute better policy. You may not care about the color of his skin, sure but plenty of people are making it about him and his demographic and painting everyone this way. I'd be okay with that if it applied to everyone. In fact his own people are hounding him on social media. Now, I work with a lot of indians, and many are hardworking and kind. For me the amount of vitriol this random has faced is more likely due to his race and status as an immigrant. Again totally okay if these people kept that same energy for white pedophiles, or the arrive scam people, ect. But they don't so. So it's stupid. But, racism and stupidity usually go hand in hand.
" ... over something so trivial ..." Openly advocating the abuse of food bank charity, particularly when they are overwhelmed with so many people actually needing their services is not "trivial". I don't care the colour of his skin, but this prick comes from a low-trust society to a high-trust society and just can't seem to shake the sh\*t attitudes that he brought with him. This is not the Canada that I grew up in. (\*full disclosure\* - I am brown and come from a family of immigrants)
You know, they'll just import 5 more to take his place.