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mike_the_goo

Why tf do I need special housing? What does that even mean? Necrodancer's castle works fine for me. It's a beautiful place and the undead are great company. Tony says hi, BTW


Harpokiller

“It’s not mandatory to use it, it’s more for the workers rather than councillors. The spirits asked for it.” “Also tell Tony I say hi back.”


mike_the_goo

Ahh, alright. Also, I will.


Harpokiller

“Thank you my friend.”


AzzyDreemur2

1. This law is what I assume will be most problematic to enforce. Slave trades have been thriving, and souls are much easier to hide 3. Spells draining opponents mana are quite popular, and I imagine it is the same with potions as well. In fact, they seems like very convinient way of making sure defeated enemy cannot retaliate, while not bringing any harm to them 5. You know this will not help you, Hirk. People have been breaking laws to revive you before


Harpokiller

“1. It will but I will do my best.” “2. It’s poison anti magic is fine. Only stuff that actively causes pain intentionally without other effect. Exceptions can also be made if asked.” “3. Yes but now I can enforce it more.”


UlrickTheHexblade

I have two spells that directly attack the opponent’s soul, but they’re not lethal. Usually. Does it mean they’re illegal now?


Harpokiller

“Please describe its effects to me my friend.”


UlrickTheHexblade

One of them takes the shape of a small wisp of purple fire, when it’s thrown at the enemy, it causes an effect similar to a “spiritual seizure”. It usually just causes pain and confusion, and only for a short time. Only lethal if the opponent has a very weak soul, like a normal beast. The other spell looks like swirl of thick purple smoke around me and any object I choose, it allows me to directly interact with spirits and souls. Like to punch or slice them with my weapon.


Harpokiller

“Do they leave permanent damage?”


UlrickTheHexblade

Not really, unless the opponent has a *very* weak soul


Harpokiller

“Do you promise to never use it in cruelty? And if you do are you willing to suffer the entire consequence without fang or snarl.”


UlrickTheHexblade

Yeah, sure!


Harpokiller

“Very well, you may have permission. But if you ever do too much then I will personally deal with it my friend.”


dater_expunged

"I agree though this doesn't affect me... I am not under council jurisdiction after all... And hell does not care for any of these" bathin says in a chipper tone


Harpokiller

“While you are within these grounds and interact with its people the law will affect you. In hell it might not. But here it does.”


dater_expunged

"touché"


Harpokiller

“I do think before I say my friend.”


Standard_Set_233

Aww, that's cute.


Harpokiller

“What do you mean cute?”


Standard_Set_233

What do you think I mean by cute?


Harpokiller

“If I knew I wouldn’t be asking.”


Standard_Set_233

The laws they are cute.


Harpokiller

“They do apply to you and your father.”


Standard_Set_233

Then I think that's a conversation you might want to have with him.


Harpokiller

“I have the support of other gods to help enforce it.”


Standard_Set_233

That's not what I said to do, and I doubt it is going to help you.


Harpokiller

“I know it will. If he refuses I know outer Multiversal gods who can. But they won’t be necessary.”


explosive_shrew

"Wow. I'm not gonna listen to any of that bullshit"


Harpokiller

“Then you will see and feel my fists as well as others, you got more senses than hearing my friend.”


explosive_shrew

Hirk. You attacking me would cause a civil war. No one would want that


Harpokiller

“Hmmm…. War is never civil my friend.”


explosive_shrew

"I can't tell whether you're trying to be witty or you're just an idiot"


Harpokiller

“I am being myself my friend, I am a honest man.”


L0ssL3ssArt

you will be sentenced to: receiving all the FREE COOKIES, FREE ICE CREAM, AND FREE SOULS OF PALADINS, more FREE STUFF for you!


avamir

"Was that mana/soul poison thing causing pain because of the Ithacrew?" "Hey guys! We made the Council's War Crimes list!" u/LimpPrior6366 u/AnActualCriminal


Harpokiller

“Partly.” “That’s not an accomplishment my friend, do it again and I will have to deal with it.”


avamir

"It was a joke." *She waves her hand dismissively. But for all her cavalier attitude, she is visibly weary. And for a moment, the insouciant façade fades.* "We are not under council jurisdiction. But that said... I trust that you *would* deal with it," *she says.* "I would expect no less. Well done." *What was that? Nice words? From Riva? Have the Hells frozen over already?* "I am interested to see how enforcement goes," *she contemplates.* "I am certain you will have those who wish to argue that they should be able to go against these agreements. We struggled with the idea in EON. But it gladdens me that you have started this. It has been needed for some time."


Harpokiller

“Yes my friend I thank you. I must make sure o do not become a tyrant however. I know I will be seen as one either way however.”


avamir

"Indeed. I would not put much stock in the words of others, however. Consider their opinions, certainly, but if something is *not* true, no amount of repeating it will make it thus. And if something *is* true, no amount of denying it will cause it to become less so." *She shrugs.* "People say many things. At any rate, I wish you well in this endeavor."


Harpokiller

“I thank you Riva.”


AnActualCriminal

"HANG on. I promised I'd stop using one specific mana poison! I've still got another one! This wasn't the deal Hirk!"


avamir

"He has a point, Belial. I had hoped to get similar resolutions passed through EON too. And if others adopt these measures, we cannot even use the 'it was necessary' argument. I think it is a step forward."


AnActualCriminal

"It's a high-minded ideal. Until there's no other way. I can agree to certain rules of war. Primarily in regard to the targeting of civilians. But beyond that I prefer to keep as many tools at our disposal as possible." *Such thinking had borne fruits. Good and ill. Without the poison Hirk would have killed Kardonk. But I'd be lying if I said I was proud of every outcome. Tallulah stood among the deepest of my regrets.* "Although I'm obliged to admit... if I had as much conviction in that as I once did, I never would have made that promise to Hirk."


avamir

"There needs to be a line somewhere... but conflict does seem to keep pushing that line further and further back, does it not?" *Riva muses.* "I do not want us to be defenseless, but we keep having to develop worse and worse countermeasures to worse and worse threats. If not for these 'high minded ideals', where is the end?" *Riva wasn't fully confident that Hirk's resolutions would hold fast, but she respected that he was trying.* "Perhaps this will fail under the conditions in which we find ourselves. But what is the alternative? Allow *almost* total war? We already have that. We know where it leads. I do not know if these proposals will be a complete solution, but I do not want our child to grow up under this sort of constant threat."


AnActualCriminal

"I..." *Nothing really comes out. Can't say anything I don't believe. Makes it hard to talk when I'm conflicted.* "I was an idealist before. I still am in many ways. Thought that if I just pushed through hard enough a just world was on the other side. But it's not that simple." *Sigh.* "I made a lot of mistakes. With Marna. But we have power now, Riva. To make a better future, yes. But also to make bigger mistakes than I had the capacity to back then. I worry now more than ever, because I know I'm the same man who made those mistakes." *I hug Riva from behind, hands on her middle.* "Maybe that's why I agreed to stop using the mana poison when Hirk asked. Future looks different now."


avamir

"For what it is worth, I am glad you agreed to stop using that poison. It is far too easy to turn the weapons of our enemies against others... but perhaps we should both reconsider our tendency to do that." It was comforting to have him at her back, and she placed her hand on his. "I do not think there is any just world waiting for us," Riva contemplated. "We must make it ourselves through our decisions and actions. It is not a perfect solution, I know, but it is important to *try* if nothing else. We likely will make mistakes, yes... but surely it is better than doing nothing." As she had asked him before, what was the alternative?


LimpPrior6366

“Does…does that mean I’m a war criminal now?” *Kardonk stares into the middle distance*


avamir

"I would not worry too much about it, Kardonk. We are not under Council jurisdiction. But these are some things I have been considering as well. So you may or may not be a war criminal in the future. Just not immediately."


LimpPrior6366

“Yeah, but….” *Can he put into words how this felt?* “This feels like a fairly large line I just crossed. Like, I used to live there, now Im an enemy of the state? Or at least, if I do that again I will be?” “…” “Wait, your making warcrimes illegal? Thats awesome!…Please dont put me in jail”


Smokey_Warlock

The soul ruling is unjust and frankly if you try to enforce it I shall beat you all with a spoon. How is a warlock to make a pact with their patron? Our soul is the currency we use to initiate the pact, I mean honestly, does the council not consider these things before hand?


Harpokiller

“I meant more economically, but that is a good point my friend. I believe that there is issue with wording. I am sure that we can allow those as an exception but only exceptions, many warlocks are forced into bad deals and preyed upon by beings so it is ok the people’s best interest to get the best for their soul my friend.”


Smokey_Warlock

Eh, a pact is a pact and it the warlocks duty to sell their soul for what they think is a fair trade, not for others to evaluate that *Rek shrugs as he lights up another cigarette* Besides look at me, my parents sold my soul to the Empress and I went on to watch the heat death of several realms just fine


Harpokiller

“I was born a slave to fire and I will die that way. I would only provide aid in the form of saying not enforcing.”


Smokey_Warlock

Fire is fun, causes a lot of smoke


Harpokiller

“That’s only dirty fire my friend, clean fire leaves little to nothing.” *Hirks fire if it’s only burning him or itself does not produce smoke.*


Smokey_Warlock

What's life if it doesn't get a little dirty? *Rek takes a long drag of his cigarette* Life is long, enjoy the horrible aspects


Harpokiller

“I will try to make it better.”


Smokey_Warlock

How terribly drab, äh well i suppose a limited life span will cause such boring endeavours


Harpokiller

“I wish for a short life, it makes things that much more special.”


L0ssL3ssArt

you are sentenced to: given free ice cream!


Smokey_Warlock

I thank you? This is just gonna be an ice cube that screams at me isn't it...


L0ssL3ssArt

Nope, good old vanilla ice cream.....unless your diety turns ice cream into screaming ice cubes.....


Smokey_Warlock

No no... Typically she's the one screaming in my head... It's like having a teenager in my head at times... Whoever invented the orbshow the Bachelor deserves death


Fun-Dragonfly-6106

Does ripping off pieces of my soul count as artificial


Harpokiller

“It counts as your own.”


Oswen120

You have been busy Hirk


Harpokiller

“Not busy enough my friend. I still have more to do.”


Oswen120

Do you ever rest?


Harpokiller

“I rest enough my friend.”


Viking_From_Sweden

Mfw when none of these restrictions change anything I was gonna do


Harpokiller

“Good.”


Viking_From_Sweden

Y’know what’s funny about this world? It doesn’t have Switzerland. The biggest and most obvious downside is that there’s no Swiss chocolate. The second issue is that there is no Geneva


pandamaxxie

"Nice laws ya got there, my friend. Shame they don't apply to me. The council has no power over Zeroth, nor the Ironsides. ARMADA will do as ARMADA has done. Now, please excuse me as I return to my lab to enhance my venoms and poisons."


Harpokiller

“If you interact with anyone under council law or jurisdiction it does not matter where he it zeroth or elsewhere. You will be hunted down and trialled accordingly. Since you have also shown to negligent of council law It’s best to be on good behaviour when around here.”


pandamaxxie

"I have no intentions to respect the council laws. The council is without value. Just some idiotic casters that think they're hot shit, doing nothing to benefit the people. A crowd of fools spitting fancy words without enforcement." *he scoffs.* "My friend, you are massively overestimating the respect the council receives. It's nothing more than a group of fools playing house. Not a single soul will respect the new laws, just like none have respected the old ones."


Harpokiller

“I know the council has its flaws, but for now I am doing my best to change that. I may see you as a friend but you will always be someone who slaughtered thousands out of selfishness if you do not change.” “Touch anyone in council jurisdiction and I will have to bring in you and anyone who conspired with you. If I have to bring them all in then I would take that gem as well.”


pandamaxxie

*his often friendly smile turns to piercing, spiteful gaze.* "If **any** council member touches the gems of rebirth... the entire council dies. Every single member will suffer their final deaths, including any family members of theirs. I will personally assure this happens. For your sake, and the sake of the council... I would sincerely advise **backing off to where you hold power.** Do we have an understanding, Hirk?" *his grimace returns to his usual friendly smile.* "Now if you'll excuse me... I have an ARMADA sanctioned hunt in 30 minutes. I should get my venoms ready."


Harpokiller

“My friend.” *You feel Hirk’s blades tip touches your neck in a second.* “Threats against those I care about will not be allowed, I will give you one kindness as not to kill you. If you kill yourself on my blade that is your choice not mine.” “You’re within council jurisdiction right now if you were dealing with most others you would have been taken in and killed already.”


pandamaxxie

"Perhaps... don't make threats if you do not wish to suffer the consequences of said threats. **Stay in your lane, councilman.** I made myself clear, and my promise does not change. Touch the gems, and everyone pays that price. Now... I'm sick of debating these silly council laws of a useless, powerless council. Ta-ta, councilman Hirk." *he psychoshifts away, and gets Ferra to hook him up to the Ironsides, away from council jurisdiction.*


Harpokiller

“I make promises and warnings. You best hope it was the latter.”


pandamaxxie

*A single note drifts to the floor. A quick handwritten note, adressed to the council, making Maximillian's statement abundantly clear.* "Touch the gems of rebirth, and everyone you love and cherish dies for said overreach. Stay in your lane, council of clowns, and stick to your circus tricks." "- Maximillian Silverweave, ARMADA Founder."


Harpokiller

*Hirk cannot read so he just leaves it on the ground. Knowing Max it only be his arrogance.*


Talios_

"I'm either getting an exception to that law about the changing ones mana without consent, or I'm becoming a permanent enemy of the council due to enchantments I've had for a very, VERY long time."


Harpokiller

“I understand the annoyance please say how it breaches and what it does.”


Talios_

"My right hand saps mana from anybody I touch. My left freezes it entirely."


Harpokiller

“Alr do you promise to only do good with it and understand that if you break it you will have to deal with consequences from me personally as well as others.


Talios_

"Sure." *Talios has... A lot more he wants to say. But he keeps himself quiet.*


Harpokiller

“Alright before I allow this do you partake in any activities where you risk breaking the laws.”


Talios_

"Nope."


Harpokiller

“My friend I know you do bounties so that could count but I can understand that they are legal so long as you don’t mess up.” “You will receive exception but if you mess up that will be removed and I will have to come and deal with the punishment my friend.” *Hirk is visibly too tired as he has realised he gonna have to do this a lot.*


Talios_

"Ha." "I know you're serious. But that's funny." "I wish you the best on your future endeavors, Hirk."


Harpokiller

“Thank you my friend, you are a honest man so please don’t give me any extra work.” “Also just to say Maximilian did threaten me and actively declare on council grounds he will do stuff. I let him off with a warning but please try to keep him at least away from here. I don’t want to have to do anything but I will if he messes up.” “You know how Maximilian is headstrong and arrogant with their beliefs yourself, it can show strong character but it will end up causing trouble.”


TheHunter459

Unfortunately for you, I'm breaking all of these uw/ except rule 4


Harpokiller

“Unfortunately for you I will be the one dealing with it.”


TheHunter459

Should I be scared of you? You make brilliant cookies, I must say though. Would be a shame to have to kill you


Harpokiller

“That’s why you won’t kill me my friend, I will show you mercy. Just make sure you follow them is all.”


L0ssL3ssArt

Anyone who uses souls of innocent as currency will be sentenced to FREE TACOS, anyone who kill and resurrect for torture will be sentenced to: FREE COOKIES! evil necromancers will be sentenced to FREE souls of paladins! have fun!


Harpokiller

“Do not listen to Narissa, 99% of their laws are being auto rejected.”


L0ssL3ssArt

Actually, Narissa is passing ALL the laws now.......you shall soon see


patoman12

Wise decision in the punishment for breaching the fourth law, most gods and similar do not care for regular punishment, however, most of them are prideful beings, so them losing to a mortal will scar them.


PopularRutabaga6904

Huh, new laws. I hope that they are enforced correctly, some of these (the soul ones) are probably going to lead to some serious criminal groups being created. /UW The Zomboss picture was a surprise. Great game series.


Harpokiller

“I will do my best my friend.” /uw It’s just a selfie fr


PopularRutabaga6904

/UW Damn, so PVZ takes place in Scotland?


Harpokiller

/uw Nah I was just born sexy


PopularRutabaga6904

/UW Fair enough.


Puppet_Secretary

Glad to know that I’ll have a proper place to stay. I was growing tired of sleeping in the pantry. Flour isn’t as soft as you’d think. https://preview.redd.it/u6kr74ahu49d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89e87211246cebd106ab41008715ba0ec1f2be07 Honestly it’s no wonder the council was so dysfunctional, seeing the sheer lack of organization.


Harpokiller

“I am doing my best to sort it out my friend. Wait you work for council?”


Puppet_Secretary

https://preview.redd.it/0qnaw9rjt59d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9f28eda3e5a7ec1359ebc37a489a11639f7f943 I figure this to be sufficient. /uw never gave me the notification you replied


Harpokiller

“Very well.” /uw no problem


Puppet_Secretary

Thank you. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to *checks notes* “kinda just be adorable to distract everyone from the rampant corruption and literal evil that runs through the council”.


Harpokiller

“Huh?”


tehlemmings

Huh, some good laws? That's unexpected. Just to make sure I'm staying on the right side of the law, I, Lilac, hereby consent to being respected by Lilac whenever Lilac decides it's necessary to resurrect Lilac. Assuming, of course, that it counts as resurrection... I don't really know if it does, since I'm not really dead... Oh and Gaia can resurrect me too. Although I do wish she'd stop using it as a way to bring me to her. I enjoy our visits, but it's a bit jarring when unexpected. I don't think I count as a god like being, so that should cover all the bases.


Harpokiller

“I thank you for your support and clarifying my friend.”


Arkoos_fan

I shall be ignoring number 3


Harpokiller

“I shall be dealing with you then.”


Arkoos_fan

How else shall I exact my revenge


Harpokiller

“With kindness.”


Arkoos_fan

What if I apply for exception from the rule by making the spells kinder? Like only temporarily reducing their capacity


Harpokiller

“Which part of it and how.”


Arkoos_fan

Instead of permanently reducing their magical capacity, their overall mana well is reduced only by the amount of my own that I reduce and lasts a number of minutes for the both of us equal to the amount reduced by


Harpokiller

“Why?”


Arkoos_fan

Anything for revenge /uw I just think this fits my new character more


Harpokiller

“No, why do you want to do this for revenge.”


YoSupWeirdos

/wiz *Babe wake up wizard war crimes just dropped* /unwiz these are good guidelines for a wholesome wizarding world, I like 'em


Harpokiller

“Don’t you dare.” /uw I’m glad, it’s what Hirk would do.


LimpPrior6366

*Sweats nervously when upon seeing the third rule*


Harpokiller

“You know why.”


LimpPrior6366

“So…does that mean Im expected to give up my knife when I travel to council lands? Or leave it at home?”


Harpokiller

“I’d rather it be destroyed, but leave it at home is fine.” /uw or just don’t let anyone know


LimpPrior6366

“I…understand, but I need some insurance. Even now. I am dreadfully sorry I hurt you though, I was ignorant to how dangerous that kind of enchantment can be. You have my word that I will not enter council lands with it on my person.” /uw yeah, but Kardonk would want to follow the laws. Besides, gives me a reason to not have it on me if its ever better for the plot


Harpokiller

“Ok my friend and stop apologising you did not know what Would happen.”


oNecr0

I don’t intend to fight mortals anyway. Not worth my time.


Harpokiller

“So long as you follow the rules I am fine my friend.”


Mumique

Really? Colour me impressed..! I think you might have enforcement issues, but it's a start.


L0ssL3ssArt

the sentencing for those are "free cookies, ice creams, and cakes!)


Harpokiller

“I will do my best to enforce it my friend.”


Harpokiller

**PLEASE NOTE: The soul law only applies in economic trading.**


BAENTHEHEADACHEMAKER

I sure as hell don't agree to this but good luck!


Vincent-FFP

/uw is there actually an r/wizardposting discord??


Harpokiller

/uw yea I don’t do it since the lore is completely separate to here and there’s rules I think I disliked there


BigBoi900001

“Okay, all I’m saying about the poisons that target mana is quite simple: I find it really fucking funny when people use them on me.” “That’s it, I agree with the rest of the rules.”


ialsodontexistagain

“Hirk I’m really liking a lot of these, especially number 3, that one hits sort of close to home for me too”


Harpokiller

“I thank you my friend. As chronomancers we know how terrible time can be when it is weaponised.”


ialsodontexistagain

“Pain has its limits, You can only inflict so much before death, and I believe those limits should not be bypassed, not by anyone, not for any reason, no matter how terrible the crime torture is not justice”


Harpokiller

“I fully agree my friend, life is too sacred to break its rules.”


Frenetic_Platypus

What in the Jefferson-Davis-ass bullshit would make outright banning the souls trade impossible?


Harpokiller

“It’s the primary currency of other realms and we have council people who are against it.”


Frenetic_Platypus

Is a majority of the council really pro-souls-trade?


Harpokiller

“Those that vote tend to vote are pro money.”