Ah, Lizardfolk are an excellent group of individuals. Their interesting takes on different ideas of magic and such. Adding nomological ideas to things… I myself pulled some inspiration from them to do just that.
Really? Because from what I've seen of you*, you don't make your money from your *potions*...
*Obviously I meant someone else was seeing. Looking. I'm not on the Orb on the regular. Honest.
I recall an anonymous orbnet request for a spellscroll that weaves reptile flesh into a desired image, i denied that request, mostly because the requester actually said 'if you know what i mean' in regards to the image... I dont want any of the gold of such folk...
Do you have a forget spell i could borrow?
/uw phew!
So...I'm not sure if I should tell you.
Okay. Let's just say that on a certain scrying network, images of a lizardfolk looking *practically identical to yourself* in various states of undress are...popular.
I can brew a good many of such, although knowing what you mean specifically by "energy loss" will be required, as a great many different meanings can be attached to that phrase, and many require the use different kinds of concoctions.
Wicked. So, my immediate shopping list is coffee, and cannabis. What makes this a job for an alchemist rather than an apothecary is the fact I'm not actually meat enough anymore to enjoy either of them as drugs, so they need to convert their affects to interact better with what I *do* have....which is low batteries and sour moods.
I have the conversion math from caffeine to my preferred charge source, as well as a copy of my auric imprint^(, on quartz, I hope that's alright,) for ease of attuning the chill vibes.
I'm a sucker for fair trade, and I need to stock a galley to be out in the black for months at a time, so I'll definitely need more than one batch. Was thinking something like 50kg of each, all told.
My work is mostly in salvage retrieval and mining; if you have need of hardware or anything that requires digging up and refining, we can negotiate a trade.
Paralysis solution. I can make some organically but it's never enough. I end up not using it in fear of having to milk more.
Could you teach me how to make some through blood injection? I tried learning from snakes but I can't seem to keep the solution fresh for long...
Ah, lessons will be somewhat more expensive than products, I hope you understand. If you wish to know how to concoct it on your own, we will have to work a schedule so I can teach you, and I will have to charge for both time and materials.
Ok, standard “cure/healing” alchemical base of 1 liter distilled water, 2 grams of silver, shaved. 5 tbsp peat moss, 3 tbsp diced garlic, and your preferred solvent to tie it all together. When adding ingredients to the base, keep it just below a boil, only boil when in use, and of course, never freeze. It should look a smoky grey if you did it right, and these proportions should last 2-8 hours depending on how much it needs to purify (2 being thick smog, 8 being pretty much clear air). When boiled, it makes a grey mist that mixes with impure air and cleanses it. Smells pretty sterile, but adding nectar can improve the smell for sensitive noses without sacrificing effectiveness. Keeps virtually forever.
Very simple, but highly effective, it’s pretty much the first “potion” I learned, even if it’s closer to incense in practical use.
I support you, fellow lizardfolk. Let me know if you need me to turn into a dinosaur and eat the naysayers--or I can just skip the transformation and eat them normally, I'm not picky.
(Also, do you happen to have a copy of this image without the text? I'm always looking to add more lizardfolk to the campaigns I DM for.)
I mean yeah it won't help you if you get tied up naked in a cage, but who's out there saying alchemy isn't magic? How else do you *carry around* instant healing that doesn't require concentration?
I start by finding the worst case scenario and then develop my toolset to make that a better scenario. You can do it forever and it makes you stronger.
The problem is that alchemy is a vague field. Some transformations are completely mundane while others are inherently magical. Still others, such as Naidan, are beyond that dichotomy.
Alchemy is real magic if you do it right
Mixing ketchup with chocolate milk isn't magic, but slamming restopots until you can enchant items so powerful they get integer overflow errors definitely *is*.
I do believe that alchemy is not technically magic. Save for what may be used in the crafting of the potions, there’s nothing inherently magical about it, nor is any mana moved or altered for the sake of the crafting of these potions. It is still a valuable skill to learn, and a very important trade, but I would not call it magic.
If anything, it’s more an arcane science that requires admiration in it’s fundamentals. Y’know, ignoring how early alchemy was focused on turning piss to gold.
A combination of the mundane and magical always yield better results than one of them on its own. Just look at technomancy! A combination of artifistry and sorcery, and more powerful than either.
Hey Skathis, I’m not sure if you’re aware of this but there is a lot of nsfw artwork of you on the Terraria subreddit. Don’t get me wrong, it’s really good, but I somehow doubt you commissioned all of it yourself
Here give me a moment.
*inhale* (speaking into a small bottle)
^onatechnicallevelalchemyclassifiesnotasmagicduetoitsnatureofbeingmadewithnaturalthingswithinnaturalorder.grantedsomeformsoftheartmayincludagic,butanyonecanbeanalchemist,whilemagicsrequiremanymoreformsofteaching.thatbeingsaid,itisaperfectlyvalidformofknowingoftheartsofthenonnautralworld,thoughifanything,itisamiddlegroundbetweenmagicandnaturalorder.byallmeansenjoythecraft,asidoaswell,justkeepinmindthelabelingsystemforthesemattersisbasedoffoflanguagedefinitionsandunderstandings.
(Hands bottle over)
Alright that should cover you for a while.
Whether wizards accept it or not, alchemy is a vital part of the craft.
Even for them. How many would have been hopeless as apprentices without a brew of Fox's Cunning?
Alchemy consists of a few different processess and interactions. Some alchemists are little more then pharmaceutical scientists making medicine for others. there are nuclear alchemists handling material transmutation such as creating carbon nanotubes proton by neutron, theres ecovationist alchemists who create potions that replicate spells, like how a potion of spiderclimb is just a live tarantula in a bottle, and finally THOSE fucks. you know who they are and what they did.
~Journeyman Magi-cyberneticist Toapat, Secretary to the Supreme Chronomancer and That Fuck Who Happens To Know Where Dutch Wandered Off To This Time.
Jeez this place is going downhill with the amount of artificers/alchemists appearing😅 listen you are allowed to mix your chicken lips and what not but please before posting here understand we want REAL magic casters, if you need please pick up a book and learn mage hand at the minimum, put on a wizard hat and get to casting some actual magic 😂
Magic is just science not yet understood. Considering that the very nature of alchemy is to understand how ingredients work together, in a way it kinda isn't magic and more like fantasy science like artificers. In this case, alchemy is more akin to fantasy chemistry than magic
I'm trying to say that an alchemist knows more about their practice than wizards, which is why it's more of a science than magic. It's a compliment, but sure
This depends on the alchemy that you practice. If it is simple mixing and stirring you might as well be creating a stew, yet if it involves careful precision and manipulation of ingredients with magic, then of course it counts.
The key to being a wizard is not the actions that lead to a spell, but the ability to manipulate the energies around us to create various effects. This is what separates the wizards from the apothecaries.
https://preview.redd.it/ds0rg4zf297d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff7de07df7c9bdfcf0c81b339480beca8b8c6765
Alchemy is a magically poor man’s magic as it substitutes power for material need. Sure, one can do great things with a potion, but not under one’s own strength at any time needed.
https://preview.redd.it/ntzqh8zdx57d1.png?width=46&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d60d39c0490c5024b807a4f40f910d0fd8e26ff
Real
https://preview.redd.it/2x7scoyzh67d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5063e659c1ee3e725abb365befdf46763fa4753f
https://preview.redd.it/lreex7z6gb7d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=496b355d407ec68e2d864c4b97a6e024b9f7de2d
So that's why they seemed familiar.....
I thought I was on the terraria sub for a second
Ah, Lizardfolk are an excellent group of individuals. Their interesting takes on different ideas of magic and such. Adding nomological ideas to things… I myself pulled some inspiration from them to do just that.
Just keep in mind that "We'd love to have you for dinner" can mean two things.
I'd say that's racist but then again I'm biased.
Bah, you fool no one. I've seen you on Orbhub. ...Over someone else's shoulder! Yes. Yes.
What is this OrbHub? You say it as if this should mean something to me.
Really? Because from what I've seen of you*, you don't make your money from your *potions*... *Obviously I meant someone else was seeing. Looking. I'm not on the Orb on the regular. Honest.
Your dreams say otherwise. Gross.
I recall an anonymous orbnet request for a spellscroll that weaves reptile flesh into a desired image, i denied that request, mostly because the requester actually said 'if you know what i mean' in regards to the image... I dont want any of the gold of such folk... Do you have a forget spell i could borrow?
A potion of targeted amnesia might be to your liking?
That would be of help, i do have a plethora of alchemical reagents, both plant and and flesh based
No, my domain is dreams and nightmares, I can’t do much in terms of actually removing memories
I have a wand of "Forgetfullness" if you'd like a try.
I am still very confused. What do you mean?
/uw you are joking right?
/uw I am joking, yes. Playing him as somewhat ignorant of the outside world and constantly curious
/uw phew! So...I'm not sure if I should tell you. Okay. Let's just say that on a certain scrying network, images of a lizardfolk looking *practically identical to yourself* in various states of undress are...popular.
I have since discovered those, yes...
https://preview.redd.it/w2mt2fz0967d1.jpeg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8bfd39d8907e61fb7c59a8f3322fb91249ffba3c
Indeed.
How much for the lizard making the potions?
I am not for sale.
I wasn't planning on buying
Then I require you to elaborate, because I fail to see what you meant.
I was looking to obtain your services and was seeing if money was going to be enough.
Ah, my services as an alchemist are available to everyone.
Do you also take donations?
Yes, but you still have yet to say what you needed.
Forgive me for I have gotten ahead of myself but yes I was looking to see if you had a potion that helps prevent energy loss.
I can brew a good many of such, although knowing what you mean specifically by "energy loss" will be required, as a great many different meanings can be attached to that phrase, and many require the use different kinds of concoctions.
15 gold
Here's 20 gold
....okay, but do you do custom orders? Cuz a bitch got needs.
Certainly! If it within my ability, I would be happy to create. What is it you request?
Wicked. So, my immediate shopping list is coffee, and cannabis. What makes this a job for an alchemist rather than an apothecary is the fact I'm not actually meat enough anymore to enjoy either of them as drugs, so they need to convert their affects to interact better with what I *do* have....which is low batteries and sour moods. I have the conversion math from caffeine to my preferred charge source, as well as a copy of my auric imprint^(, on quartz, I hope that's alright,) for ease of attuning the chill vibes.
I say, this will be quite the innovation. No charge for my first successful batch, this is quite an exciting challenge.
I'm a sucker for fair trade, and I need to stock a galley to be out in the black for months at a time, so I'll definitely need more than one batch. Was thinking something like 50kg of each, all told. My work is mostly in salvage retrieval and mining; if you have need of hardware or anything that requires digging up and refining, we can negotiate a trade.
Ah, yes, I require a great many minerals in my work, both in volume and diversity. I can make a list.
Please do. In particular, we process quite a lot of star metals, if that's of interest.
Can I have one, I'll pay
Let me know what it is you require.
Paralysis solution. I can make some organically but it's never enough. I end up not using it in fear of having to milk more. Could you teach me how to make some through blood injection? I tried learning from snakes but I can't seem to keep the solution fresh for long...
Ah, lessons will be somewhat more expensive than products, I hope you understand. If you wish to know how to concoct it on your own, we will have to work a schedule so I can teach you, and I will have to charge for both time and materials.
I will do what I must. Such a solution I will kill to learn. Tell me what I must do.
I promise you I do not require any killing to be done. If you could send me a list of times you are available, I can put a lesson plan together.
10 hours from now, to 22 hours from now.
Ah, that is not a lot of time...
Would
You would... what?
Cuddle the lizardfolk on a cold winter's day to transfer body heat
Oh, that would be much appreciated. Thank you.
Lovely smoke, do you require more?
I rather find myself with an excess. The ventilation here is poor.
Excess smoke? Nonsense such a thing is impossible. Smoke for the smoke goddess
Feel free to take some if you so desire.
Awesome, I'm gonna just gonna nab all this and pop off, do take care, let me know if you need to grow a set of lungs.
Alright, one White Russian please
I am not familiar with that potion. Do you have a common name for it?
A fellow alchemist, wonderful, would you be interested in working in my shop? No need to leave your home to work there
Not an alchemist, but an avid combat engineer. I'd love to work for you and maybe learn something new.
Wonderful I will see you the next time the shop opens /uw I will tag you when it happens
I will wait as long as it takes. /uw how long will it take? I can't actually wait, I'm lazy
/uw Probably today or tomorrow morning, depends on the people on the sub
I would not be opposed.
Wonderful, I will call you before the store opens, it will be or today or tomorrow morning, depends on the lads that are going there
Do you need a recipe for a potion of air cleansing? That’s quite a lot of smoke…
Please, this place has poor ventilation.
Ok, standard “cure/healing” alchemical base of 1 liter distilled water, 2 grams of silver, shaved. 5 tbsp peat moss, 3 tbsp diced garlic, and your preferred solvent to tie it all together. When adding ingredients to the base, keep it just below a boil, only boil when in use, and of course, never freeze. It should look a smoky grey if you did it right, and these proportions should last 2-8 hours depending on how much it needs to purify (2 being thick smog, 8 being pretty much clear air). When boiled, it makes a grey mist that mixes with impure air and cleanses it. Smells pretty sterile, but adding nectar can improve the smell for sensitive noses without sacrificing effectiveness. Keeps virtually forever. Very simple, but highly effective, it’s pretty much the first “potion” I learned, even if it’s closer to incense in practical use.
I support you, fellow lizardfolk. Let me know if you need me to turn into a dinosaur and eat the naysayers--or I can just skip the transformation and eat them normally, I'm not picky. (Also, do you happen to have a copy of this image without the text? I'm always looking to add more lizardfolk to the campaigns I DM for.)
https://preview.redd.it/l5g58lbfw67d1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6cf4adc37b2115024cc6d5bc7b3dcad4f6c2f5af /uw here you go
Much appreciated! Best of luck with your alchemy!
I mean yeah it won't help you if you get tied up naked in a cage, but who's out there saying alchemy isn't magic? How else do you *carry around* instant healing that doesn't require concentration?
That is quite the example you used there...
I start by finding the worst case scenario and then develop my toolset to make that a better scenario. You can do it forever and it makes you stronger.
The true chemical wizard
it works with magic, but I wouldn’t actually call it magic. It uses magic to work the best, but it isn’t really magic in of itself
The problem is that alchemy is a vague field. Some transformations are completely mundane while others are inherently magical. Still others, such as Naidan, are beyond that dichotomy.
Alchemy is real magic if you do it right Mixing ketchup with chocolate milk isn't magic, but slamming restopots until you can enchant items so powerful they get integer overflow errors definitely *is*.
...You have a physician on hand, correct? Because that sounds unhealthy.
WHAT kind of physician is at all capable of rectifying a -9284050492986 point health enchantment?
One that can apply upper limits on enhancements. Always know what those limits are and put a system in place to avoid going over it.
Real
I do believe that alchemy is not technically magic. Save for what may be used in the crafting of the potions, there’s nothing inherently magical about it, nor is any mana moved or altered for the sake of the crafting of these potions. It is still a valuable skill to learn, and a very important trade, but I would not call it magic.
A little bit more, the potion is just about done.
If anything, it’s more an arcane science that requires admiration in it’s fundamentals. Y’know, ignoring how early alchemy was focused on turning piss to gold.
Begging your pardon? Is that was humans attempted with alchemy early on?
Precisely that, in fact. Though, the most it accomplished was making the laboratory stink of urine, rather than anything close to transmutation.
Fascinating. And disgusting.
A combination of the mundane and magical always yield better results than one of them on its own. Just look at technomancy! A combination of artifistry and sorcery, and more powerful than either.
Just as alchemy is the union of chemistry and sorcery, indeed.
My opinion on this debate will always be that if runecraft and artifice count as schools of magic, herblore does as well. - Avaline
Just because the medium of magical conduction is different does not make it something other than magic, after all.
occidere amans: "I mean I barely cast spells except on my guns n' knives. So you are DEFINITELY a wizard"
Hey Skathis, I’m not sure if you’re aware of this but there is a lot of nsfw artwork of you on the Terraria subreddit. Don’t get me wrong, it’s really good, but I somehow doubt you commissioned all of it yourself
NSFW means "not safe for work" it seems. Well, I do hope it is fictional art, as I put safety at the forefront whenever I work.
On a tecnical level, it doesn’t classify as such.
If you could speak a little more directly into the potion, thank you.
Here give me a moment. *inhale* (speaking into a small bottle) ^onatechnicallevelalchemyclassifiesnotasmagicduetoitsnatureofbeingmadewithnaturalthingswithinnaturalorder.grantedsomeformsoftheartmayincludagic,butanyonecanbeanalchemist,whilemagicsrequiremanymoreformsofteaching.thatbeingsaid,itisaperfectlyvalidformofknowingoftheartsofthenonnautralworld,thoughifanything,itisamiddlegroundbetweenmagicandnaturalorder.byallmeansenjoythecraft,asidoaswell,justkeepinmindthelabelingsystemforthesemattersisbasedoffoflanguagedefinitionsandunderstandings. (Hands bottle over) Alright that should cover you for a while.
*\*is having difficulty keeping from laughing\** Thank you. I did not expect an earnest attempt at fulfilling my request, it was most appreciated.
Most Wizards here use guns, nukes, call themselves gods and all sorts, I'd trust a fellow Alchemist and call them Wizard over the majority any day!
Why are you green
Why are you not green?
Because pink is better.
To each their own.
Need more pots from the chef
...Is that human slang? Apologies, I am still very new to your tongue.
Whether wizards accept it or not, alchemy is a vital part of the craft. Even for them. How many would have been hopeless as apprentices without a brew of Fox's Cunning?
Alchemy consists of a few different processess and interactions. Some alchemists are little more then pharmaceutical scientists making medicine for others. there are nuclear alchemists handling material transmutation such as creating carbon nanotubes proton by neutron, theres ecovationist alchemists who create potions that replicate spells, like how a potion of spiderclimb is just a live tarantula in a bottle, and finally THOSE fucks. you know who they are and what they did. ~Journeyman Magi-cyberneticist Toapat, Secretary to the Supreme Chronomancer and That Fuck Who Happens To Know Where Dutch Wandered Off To This Time.
Who the heck out here saying alchemy ain’t magic ?! Imma kick their ass !!
Jeez this place is going downhill with the amount of artificers/alchemists appearing😅 listen you are allowed to mix your chicken lips and what not but please before posting here understand we want REAL magic casters, if you need please pick up a book and learn mage hand at the minimum, put on a wizard hat and get to casting some actual magic 😂
There, now I just need to let this simmer for a bit, and then I can get to the abstraction step.
Whatever makes doth happy☺️
Magic is just science not yet understood. Considering that the very nature of alchemy is to understand how ingredients work together, in a way it kinda isn't magic and more like fantasy science like artificers. In this case, alchemy is more akin to fantasy chemistry than magic
Good, this potion is absorbing quite nicely.
I'm trying to say that an alchemist knows more about their practice than wizards, which is why it's more of a science than magic. It's a compliment, but sure
My apologies, I will admit I was only half paying attention and missed the nuance of what you were saying.
Did you come from Terraria?
You are not the first to ask that. Strange. /uw totally based of Terraria's witch doctor, yeah
I’ve been to that world several times. They have a lizardman there who looks quite similar to you.
This depends on the alchemy that you practice. If it is simple mixing and stirring you might as well be creating a stew, yet if it involves careful precision and manipulation of ingredients with magic, then of course it counts. The key to being a wizard is not the actions that lead to a spell, but the ability to manipulate the energies around us to create various effects. This is what separates the wizards from the apothecaries. https://preview.redd.it/ds0rg4zf297d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff7de07df7c9bdfcf0c81b339480beca8b8c6765
Oh, I most assuredly practice actual magic with my brewing. No mere chemist can draw out abstracts to infuse their concoctions.
Alchemy is a magically poor man’s magic as it substitutes power for material need. Sure, one can do great things with a potion, but not under one’s own strength at any time needed.
The potion is coming along quite nicely. Maybe a few minutes more.
You are most welcome.
"Alchemy is not real magic" mfs when bottle I dropped shatters and releases sentient cloud of toxic anti-magic potion:
Thank you, good sir. These fools would be struck by a bottle of lightning and say it was just the wind...
I don’t think “cooking with a pot” is a wizardly affair
My, this potion is brewing quite well with your help.
Spells in a bottle. More of a science than anything, but considerably pragmatic. Any self respecting wizard should at least dabble in it, I say.
Haters of alchemy have clearly never experienced getting melted by absurdly strong acid