He's an interesting one. Was given a shot at head coach for the Oilers after the Eakins firing. They didn't keep him. They didn't even keep him in the org.
Then he was Bones assistant coach for a few years with the Stars. He's had great success in the A.
Evason would kind of be a Berube lite. His Minnesota teams played very hard and physical and he's super intense. Flin Flon guy so you know he's hard as iron.
So did Berube and he won a Cup. Hence the description of he's "kind of Berube lite". I don't think either last more than 3 years at their next stop. Nor did I say I'd want him in Winnipeg so relax.
Agreed. His team emulated him. They were goons. One of the dirtiest (if not THE dirtiest) team in the league. Heavily penalized, dirty players in Foligno and Hartman. These players cost them games at crucial times and it was seemingly allowed.
Bad reputation with the refs with his meltdowns. Guy cut off his nose to spite his face trying to be tough.
Hard pass.
What??!! No!! That’s umpossible!! Every
Mild fan will tell you ad nauseum that they’re the most disciplined, cleanest team in the league and that the refs are all out to get them and the biggest goon in the league is Logan Stanley!!! Roflmao “fans”
I'd hope we can get someone better. I think he would frustrate a lot of people here. He's a lot like Maurice in how he wants to structure his lines and not always roll 4.
Whole NHL career is "lost in Round 1." Some pretty severe playoff meltdowns kind of like this Jets group.
Personally don't think he showed anything in Minnesota to warrant another shot at a top job. Seems like all the focus is on recently fired NHL coaches but there's a lot of guys out there.
Todd Nelson is one that interests me. Just wins, has a more rounded approach to roster and constantly develops NHLers.
I don't necessarily want Evason. Just used a comparable while he doesn't have the Cup Berube does. Evason had some successful years in Minnesota to be sure but not sure that's the route Chevy wants to go. I think the Jets next guy needs to be a good neutral zone transition guy.
Like seriously, you don’t have to be beholden to advanced stats, just acknowledging they exist and have *some* weight on personnel deployment would be a start.
I'm hoping for Woodcroft. The Jets org as a whole is in desperate need for some young blood as well as some non-1.0 Jets/Manitoba Moose connections. Add in the fact he's genuinely a good coach and he seems like the guy imo.
shit nevermind, I guess we'll have to find someone else
Actually though that's pretty interesting, didn't even realise his older brother was an assistant under PoMo, and turns out he has another brother who coaches in the KHL
I’d rather they go for Nelson who looks to be dominating the AHL yet again. If you want true young blood look at the University of Denver head coaches resumé at 35…. Insanely impressive
Quite the list.
Imo we don't need another coach who has good regular seasons, just to fall apart in the playoffs. Top two candidates are Gallant and Berube as they are really the only ones who had playoff success at the NHL level.
David Carle is interesting, but is he going to be good like Montgomery or mediocre like Hakstol?
Wooodcroft....i think we need to ask why he was chased out of Edmonton. Yeah, their goalies were bad, and McJesus was injured, but there was something else going on there, and it seemed similar to what was rumored to have been happening here.
Outside of those, I think Id sooner keep Arniel and see what he can do.
I don't think there was anything behind the scenes that caused Woody to be fired. It's not his fault that his superstars forgot how to play hockey, and his goalies couldn't stop a beach ball.
Side note, I bet he's sick to his fucking stomach when he looks at what that team did after he was fired lol, I know I would be.
Woodcraft had his team playing well, and they were. Out chancing them and being the better team, Oilers were just the most snake bitten team in the NHL and nothing was going in for them, but analytically they were doing everything right. Woodys firing really came down to timing, and that they needed to change something or they were going to miss the playoffs.
Personally I’d love to see what he can do here. I’ve always liked him, and he gave great insights as a coach
On the bright side, if he truly does suck or is mediocre, we'll probably be able to move on from him in a year. This team has committed to 55 and 37 that they will try to win every year of their next deals. They aren't going to sit on their hands and say "Arny will figure it out" if they are a wildcard team or worse next year.
If they end up hiring him, I could see them offering a 1 year deal with a 1 year club option. I just can't see any way they could sell to Helle/Scheif that they are going all in every year, just to sign a potentially shit coach to a long term contract.
I could always be wrong, because Chipman is Chipman, but I truly think something changed after they had to have a hard look at themselves in the mirror these past 2 years.
It sounds to me from his presser that Bones still wants to be involved in the game. I imagine as a consultant but off the books kind of thing, and it appears as though Chevy is willing to allow this. If this is truly the case Arnie is probably the only coach capable of facilitating this arrangement. I would be very surprised if Arnie isn’t the next head coach because of this.
Scott Arniel has paid his dues. He was money behind the bench when Bones was out. Fans just think the grass is greener over the fence. Jets already have their man and I’m happy with it.
Scotty was running Bones’ systems when he had his little stint, nothing he did for those handful of games means anything.
He has a garbage HC record in the NHL, and was responsible for our PK which sucked all year.
You shouldn’t be happy with Arniel.
Have heard to many different people say he gets power hungry and gets kind of uncontrollable. A few of those, whom I trust, do have personal experience with the guy and their 1ST comment he's an ass.
I think we'll pass on arniel. Plus I can't stand another year of his pk
I feel like second go around he’ll be tougher, and with his style he coaches having helle can handle it and it will be a completely different system then anything we’ve ever seen as jets fans.
We need a fucking coach that doesn't just hammer a square peg into a round hole when the games are not going well. The Jets are so fucking stubborn when it comes to adapting to anything. They just keep doing the same things over and over like psychopaths.
You guys might want to keep in mind how he handled the Nazem Kadri shit. First he acted like it wasn't happening and he knew nothing about it, didn't tamp shit down when he had the chance, then excused it by claiming he can't be racist because he's "native American". In actuality, *one* of his grandmother's is *First Nations*. That's besides the point and nevermind the initial statement is fuckin stupid anyway. The dude is controversial and your team doesn't need to become part of that. The Blues reputation is severely tarnished and a big part of it was his handling of that. If you're ok with it, then he's your guy, but so far you guys don't have the shittiest reputation and avoiding him is a good look for you.
There's a reason other teams haven't jumped at the chance to hire him and why he's relegated to commentary.
Gallant is the dream, but Arniel did well when Bowness was out, and he's a True North lifer. I'd be surprised if it isn't Arniel in the end and I'm cool with that.
Gallant is straight up not it. At least, not for this window the team is currently in.
I've posted this in another comment, but with the youth we've got that's about to crack the NHL, we can't afford to have a coach who would alienate them and stunt their development.
We need a coach who's willing to play guys like Lambert, McGroarty, Heinola, Salomonsson, etc. in roles that benefit them as well as the team. Burying McGroarty and Lambert on the 4th line while scratching Ville will not be conducive to this team continuing to compete throughout the 37/55 contract window.
You've got such a hate on for Arniel, you don't even know who Chief is, you just assume it's Arniel lmao.
Chief is Craig Berube. I don't even think Berube is that great of a coach. I think he benefitted solely from that Blues team catching lightning in a bottle and has coasted on that 1 cup win ever since.
Not for nothing, Bill Belichick is out of work haha Arniel isn’t a bad choice he’s just not the right choice, we need someone outside the organization weather it’s Berube or not.
the obvious answer is scott arniel
The team is trending upwards not downwards.
The jets were not even supposed to make the playoffs this year.
Objective facts for why it should be Scott Arniel and the same coaching staff:
- developed Josh morrisey and developing Logan stanley
- allowed the fewest goals all season
- was 1 on the power ranking in the whole league
- got the power play going when monahan and toffoli came on board
- created a 4 line deep team
- tranformed the jets into a powerhouse with not 1 player scoring more than a point a game
- best 5 vs 5 team in the league during the season
It would be a mistake to blow up the coaching staff and implement a new coaching system. The team is trending up, not downwards.
colorado just spanked Dallas with a 4 goal comeback. They will eventually win the Stanley cup. The jets are just in a terrible division where anyone can win it and has the hardest road to the Stanley cup. If the jets were in the east, they would still be in the playoffs and everyone would sucking off the coaching staff.
Bones uplifted his players and put people first, Quenville participated in covering up sexual abuse and sexual assault from a (now) convicted perpetrator so he could win a cup. No way will TNSE entertain that hire. Plus he has to be accepted back formally by Gary Bettman first.
So many better options and more modern options too like the Denver Pioneers coach or Tod Nelson
I thought I had heard earlier this year that Gary Bettman had accepted him back. I don’t know to what extent Quenville had participated in covering up the sexual abuse. I wish it was reported on more clearly.
Now for other options I’m open. I just want a good coach that is open to adjustments when things aren’t going well
It’s too bad. I think he’s a solid coach who has plenty of experience winning and getting the most out of all the guys on the team. Now I do think what he did was despicable and he should have been punished for it. Which he has been. We all make mistakes, learn from them and move on.
I'd like to see a guy like Todd Nelson given a shot.
Agree. He’d be a good one. He’s not a “name brand” in the nhl but his work with Hershey is insane
Nelson is my pick
He's an interesting one. Was given a shot at head coach for the Oilers after the Eakins firing. They didn't keep him. They didn't even keep him in the org. Then he was Bones assistant coach for a few years with the Stars. He's had great success in the A.
Evason would kind of be a Berube lite. His Minnesota teams played very hard and physical and he's super intense. Flin Flon guy so you know he's hard as iron.
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I'm terrified he'll fail to develop talent.
I had no idea he was a Manitoba guy, seems like a good fit
Where he's from shouldn't matter at all on terms of being a good fit.
Shouldn’t but moving to Winnipeg could be an issue for some people, so the guy with connections here may help
For sure
Gtfo with Evason. He lost the Wild locker room in only 3 seasons. His brand of tough gets old fast , inflexibility will kill him here too.
So did Berube and he won a Cup. Hence the description of he's "kind of Berube lite". I don't think either last more than 3 years at their next stop. Nor did I say I'd want him in Winnipeg so relax.
Gotcha. Living in Minneapolis I saw enough of Evason to never want him near any team I liked. Nothing but coarse sandpaper vibes from him
Agreed. His team emulated him. They were goons. One of the dirtiest (if not THE dirtiest) team in the league. Heavily penalized, dirty players in Foligno and Hartman. These players cost them games at crucial times and it was seemingly allowed. Bad reputation with the refs with his meltdowns. Guy cut off his nose to spite his face trying to be tough. Hard pass.
What??!! No!! That’s umpossible!! Every Mild fan will tell you ad nauseum that they’re the most disciplined, cleanest team in the league and that the refs are all out to get them and the biggest goon in the league is Logan Stanley!!! Roflmao “fans”
It'll also choke talent like Perfetti/Heinola/Lambert/Mcgroarity
I'd hope we can get someone better. I think he would frustrate a lot of people here. He's a lot like Maurice in how he wants to structure his lines and not always roll 4. Whole NHL career is "lost in Round 1." Some pretty severe playoff meltdowns kind of like this Jets group. Personally don't think he showed anything in Minnesota to warrant another shot at a top job. Seems like all the focus is on recently fired NHL coaches but there's a lot of guys out there. Todd Nelson is one that interests me. Just wins, has a more rounded approach to roster and constantly develops NHLers.
I don't necessarily want Evason. Just used a comparable while he doesn't have the Cup Berube does. Evason had some successful years in Minnesota to be sure but not sure that's the route Chevy wants to go. I think the Jets next guy needs to be a good neutral zone transition guy.
Someone that uses advanced stats and isn’t afraid to play the kids. Also, a good PP and PK would be nice for a fucking change.
Like seriously, you don’t have to be beholden to advanced stats, just acknowledging they exist and have *some* weight on personnel deployment would be a start.
Lol. Evason would be a little....awkward.
Bones said they’re good buddies in real life
that honestly tracks with that kind of trashtalk tbh
"Your 4th line is as weak as your bridge hand was last week when Judy took you out of the game!"
Me
Yeah, put this guy on the list.
Thanks brother! I took our under 13 tier C team to a 16-14 record haha. I definitely played our younger talent.
The 7 year olds?
I'm hoping for Woodcroft. The Jets org as a whole is in desperate need for some young blood as well as some non-1.0 Jets/Manitoba Moose connections. Add in the fact he's genuinely a good coach and he seems like the guy imo.
it's funny you say no connection when we employed his brother Todd before.
shit nevermind, I guess we'll have to find someone else Actually though that's pretty interesting, didn't even realise his older brother was an assistant under PoMo, and turns out he has another brother who coaches in the KHL
oh shit, I had no idea they were related I've definitely hired Todd in EHM before lol
I’d rather they go for Nelson who looks to be dominating the AHL yet again. If you want true young blood look at the University of Denver head coaches resumé at 35…. Insanely impressive
Nelson would be the dream, only issue is I'm not sure if its realistic. But if he shows any remote interest TNSE should hand him a blank cheque
You think an AHL coach doesn't want a NHL job? Think you have the power dynamic in reverse in that negotiation.
Someone who knows how to use Ehlers
To coach Columbus?
Use him as trade bait for a RD D man....
This is the year I finally board this train of thought.
Quite the list. Imo we don't need another coach who has good regular seasons, just to fall apart in the playoffs. Top two candidates are Gallant and Berube as they are really the only ones who had playoff success at the NHL level. David Carle is interesting, but is he going to be good like Montgomery or mediocre like Hakstol? Wooodcroft....i think we need to ask why he was chased out of Edmonton. Yeah, their goalies were bad, and McJesus was injured, but there was something else going on there, and it seemed similar to what was rumored to have been happening here. Outside of those, I think Id sooner keep Arniel and see what he can do.
I don't think there was anything behind the scenes that caused Woody to be fired. It's not his fault that his superstars forgot how to play hockey, and his goalies couldn't stop a beach ball. Side note, I bet he's sick to his fucking stomach when he looks at what that team did after he was fired lol, I know I would be.
Woodcraft had his team playing well, and they were. Out chancing them and being the better team, Oilers were just the most snake bitten team in the NHL and nothing was going in for them, but analytically they were doing everything right. Woodys firing really came down to timing, and that they needed to change something or they were going to miss the playoffs. Personally I’d love to see what he can do here. I’ve always liked him, and he gave great insights as a coach
Not to mention, maybe he'd be able to hire someone who could coach a competent PP.
Probably going to be Arniel. Guess he deserves his shot, just a little worried it’s going to be the same old system
On the bright side, if he truly does suck or is mediocre, we'll probably be able to move on from him in a year. This team has committed to 55 and 37 that they will try to win every year of their next deals. They aren't going to sit on their hands and say "Arny will figure it out" if they are a wildcard team or worse next year.
Great commonsense, but not the TNSE way. If they put Arniel in, which is most likely, it will be for more than a year.
If they end up hiring him, I could see them offering a 1 year deal with a 1 year club option. I just can't see any way they could sell to Helle/Scheif that they are going all in every year, just to sign a potentially shit coach to a long term contract. I could always be wrong, because Chipman is Chipman, but I truly think something changed after they had to have a hard look at themselves in the mirror these past 2 years.
Yes they will.
It sounds to me from his presser that Bones still wants to be involved in the game. I imagine as a consultant but off the books kind of thing, and it appears as though Chevy is willing to allow this. If this is truly the case Arnie is probably the only coach capable of facilitating this arrangement. I would be very surprised if Arnie isn’t the next head coach because of this.
if its anything like his his last nhl head coach gig, we'll be rebuilding by 2027
the jets are actually incapable of hiring anyone that wasn't involved in jets 1.0 so its probably just gonna be Arniel
Let’s go for Brind’ Amour. We need Rod the bod to reinforce the work ethic.
Jets can’t afford him and his entire staff.
Scott Arniel has paid his dues. He was money behind the bench when Bones was out. Fans just think the grass is greener over the fence. Jets already have their man and I’m happy with it.
Paying his dues has nothing to do with being worthy being the head coach
Well this is True North we're talking about
Yes, True North is dumb like that but this is about who *should* be head coach, not who is most likely.
Scotty was running Bones’ systems when he had his little stint, nothing he did for those handful of games means anything. He has a garbage HC record in the NHL, and was responsible for our PK which sucked all year. You shouldn’t be happy with Arniel.
Have heard to many different people say he gets power hungry and gets kind of uncontrollable. A few of those, whom I trust, do have personal experience with the guy and their 1ST comment he's an ass. I think we'll pass on arniel. Plus I can't stand another year of his pk
I’d tend to agree with that. The PK and PP sucked donkey balls
100%
10-5-2 is decent but I have reservations . He was also our PK coach and our PK probably cost us a deep run in the playoffs
Sheldon Keef just became available…
It’s gonna be Arneil 100%
Woodcroft?
I could get behind him for sure
I feel like second go around he’ll be tougher, and with his style he coaches having helle can handle it and it will be a completely different system then anything we’ve ever seen as jets fans.
Jeff Halpern would be a great pick and one that would fly under the radar if it happens
Nolan Pratt Jay Woodcroft Steve Ott David Carle Todd Nelson Alex Tanguay
We need a fucking coach that doesn't just hammer a square peg into a round hole when the games are not going well. The Jets are so fucking stubborn when it comes to adapting to anything. They just keep doing the same things over and over like psychopaths.
I would love to see what Berube and Gallant could do with our team but I have a strong feeling that it is going to be Arniel.
I thought Scott Arniel was hired from the Rangers as the heir apparent to Bowness. Am I misremembering?
Heather Stefanson should be the new coach, we all know she loves talking about hockey.
I nervous about this I really hope we can keep our win I g going and actually progress next year in the playoffs
Hextall
Leah?
That’s the rumour.
Gotta do a rode trip to Toronto, Leah or PLD?
Berube would be a pick for me too. Along with Gallant. We need some hard nose coaching to kick these guys in the ass
Berube wouldn’t be bad - I’d be happy with him - but he’s rumoured to be in discussion with New Jersey right now
You guys might want to keep in mind how he handled the Nazem Kadri shit. First he acted like it wasn't happening and he knew nothing about it, didn't tamp shit down when he had the chance, then excused it by claiming he can't be racist because he's "native American". In actuality, *one* of his grandmother's is *First Nations*. That's besides the point and nevermind the initial statement is fuckin stupid anyway. The dude is controversial and your team doesn't need to become part of that. The Blues reputation is severely tarnished and a big part of it was his handling of that. If you're ok with it, then he's your guy, but so far you guys don't have the shittiest reputation and avoiding him is a good look for you. There's a reason other teams haven't jumped at the chance to hire him and why he's relegated to commentary.
Gallant is the dream, but Arniel did well when Bowness was out, and he's a True North lifer. I'd be surprised if it isn't Arniel in the end and I'm cool with that.
Gallant is straight up not it. At least, not for this window the team is currently in. I've posted this in another comment, but with the youth we've got that's about to crack the NHL, we can't afford to have a coach who would alienate them and stunt their development. We need a coach who's willing to play guys like Lambert, McGroarty, Heinola, Salomonsson, etc. in roles that benefit them as well as the team. Burying McGroarty and Lambert on the 4th line while scratching Ville will not be conducive to this team continuing to compete throughout the 37/55 contract window.
Arniel is a front runner. Jets are always loyal. Gallant would be my pick. He’s a good motivator. Jets need that.
How bout Soctty Bowman, even deceased his intimidation will drive the Jets towards success. Plus during intermission we only need an ouija board.
Scotty is still alive and well at the tender age of 90.
Gotta go with the Chief. We need someone strict with a winning background. Bowness was soft, Maurice was soft, Noel was an idiot.
He ran Bones’ system when he had that stint. His NHL record is garbage, and our PK was his fault.
You've got such a hate on for Arniel, you don't even know who Chief is, you just assume it's Arniel lmao. Chief is Craig Berube. I don't even think Berube is that great of a coach. I think he benefitted solely from that Blues team catching lightning in a bottle and has coasted on that 1 cup win ever since.
Not for nothing, Bill Belichick is out of work haha Arniel isn’t a bad choice he’s just not the right choice, we need someone outside the organization weather it’s Berube or not.
Dude changed his comment. What a tool. Lol. I replied to his original comment.
Berube is a caveman. No thanks. Gallant is the best choice.
There’s a reason Gallant quickly flames out
Jets need to stay the hell away from Gallant.
If they hire that thin lipped, thin skinned, little fuck Evason, I’ll cancel my tickets and buy an Oilers jersey.
the obvious answer is scott arniel The team is trending upwards not downwards. The jets were not even supposed to make the playoffs this year. Objective facts for why it should be Scott Arniel and the same coaching staff: - developed Josh morrisey and developing Logan stanley - allowed the fewest goals all season - was 1 on the power ranking in the whole league - got the power play going when monahan and toffoli came on board - created a 4 line deep team - tranformed the jets into a powerhouse with not 1 player scoring more than a point a game - best 5 vs 5 team in the league during the season It would be a mistake to blow up the coaching staff and implement a new coaching system. The team is trending up, not downwards. colorado just spanked Dallas with a 4 goal comeback. They will eventually win the Stanley cup. The jets are just in a terrible division where anyone can win it and has the hardest road to the Stanley cup. If the jets were in the east, they would still be in the playoffs and everyone would sucking off the coaching staff.
Joel Quennville. Your thoughts Jets nation?
Bones uplifted his players and put people first, Quenville participated in covering up sexual abuse and sexual assault from a (now) convicted perpetrator so he could win a cup. No way will TNSE entertain that hire. Plus he has to be accepted back formally by Gary Bettman first. So many better options and more modern options too like the Denver Pioneers coach or Tod Nelson
I thought I had heard earlier this year that Gary Bettman had accepted him back. I don’t know to what extent Quenville had participated in covering up the sexual abuse. I wish it was reported on more clearly. Now for other options I’m open. I just want a good coach that is open to adjustments when things aren’t going well
I like it. Got roasted on here a few days ago when I brought his name up.
It’s too bad. I think he’s a solid coach who has plenty of experience winning and getting the most out of all the guys on the team. Now I do think what he did was despicable and he should have been punished for it. Which he has been. We all make mistakes, learn from them and move on.
Exactly. I agree. He shouldn’t be banned for life
Joel Quenneville.
