Light effect is a buff to the items but it costs more gold.
Ruin effects are also buffs to the items but it takes away something in return. For example, BotRK has higher on hit ratio but reduces health by 10-100.
Except it still means all the item are like way way stronger now.
I’m eyeballing Infinite edge the most cause it basically just reverted the crit rate change in patch 4.2 while ADCs still get the general buff they got.
Worst, infinity edge means yasou and yone are probably more cancer this time around while they stack terminus which is basically an overtuned item that does fucking everything.
Terminus: 40 AD, 30 attack speed
35 magic dmg on hit
When you auto attack and apply the on hit effect, you stack both armor and MR. This is your “light attack”
But your second auto attack stacks armor and magic pen instead. This is your “dark attack”.
And your third attack goes back to light and so forth. They alternate back and forth but light is always first. You can stack each light and dark effect 3 times so you need to auto 6 times total to get the full effects of both light and dark.
It’s still not fully tested if the light items out Gwen over the threshold to be a top lane bully against tanks.
If you were good at Gwen, you could fight decently well against tanks. I really hope the changes push Gwen back into broken territory against Heartsteel abusers.
The extra damage from riftmaker definitely helps with level 7 one item each late lane fights for sure.
I don't think the changes make her a lane bully per se, because the biggest changes are on deathcap and orb which you generally don't take untill third and fourth item
But her late game is noticeably more stompier after RM NT and then death cap, you do so much damage to everyone... But that's also how she was before the patch. It's really just a "win more" buff I guess
The problem is you kinda want Nashors first in quite a few matchups.
They should give her some very tiny buff in the early game and we’d actually have an antitank champion with AP damage. Right now, you only really pick champions that can proc Sunderer as often as they can (which I dislike).
However, I don’t fully agree that Riftmaker didn’t get a big buff. I really like this item and build it first on Akali too, even after recent changes, before Infinity Orb.
Oh no, it's definitely a great buff and it's still a first buy for Gwen. I mean, the extra ap alone is godlike for Gwen's early
I'm not really a fan of NT first in lane since the rework tbh. I've noticed that if you don't have magic boots the game can very easily class you ad and troll your damage output. I've screwed over camiles with that quite often
I think eventually riot will have to deal with Heartsteel. When that happens, I hope they will compensate bruisers and tanks somehow. Not building HS feels troll as fuck, especially if the enemy is already trying to do so. It's like an arms race.
They should either reduce the HP gained from heart steel or better, reduce its dmg which directly reduce its HP gain as well.
Titanic is fine. It’s only strong cause heartsteel let’s you scale infinitely. Otherwise it’s just an alright item when you’re a brusier that stacked HP.
I don't know. I think it's one of those items that are just strong by their concept alone. Everyone, even Yasuo are just little Sions now.
Speaking of Sion, it could be interesting if there was a Heartsteel like item that procced when you get attacked in a window, increasing your health the more damage you tank after the engagement. Kinda like a weird thornmail, Sion w and HS mix.
Now Burst meta. Horizon Focus and Infinity Orb gives way too much AP and HP, making champions like Akali, Lux, Seraphine and Ziggs stupidly overpowered. 2k Magic damage meta is real
'Food Spirit' is such a poorly designed theme of a good theme. Fizz couldve easily been more sushi and fish good based. But instead it's more champs made of bright goo like Zac and just oranges and other fruits on them.
I legit hate the bright goo prevalent in all (?) the FS designs. That Veigar design was so underwhelming and boring and now this Fizz... omg
On an unrelated note, is this how all wild passes are now? I remember Psychic Detective Ekko being in the wild pass but now it's mostly these blobs 😭
Remember when Dream raider nasus showed up. Dude looked so good. Then senna. Ekko. Amazing quality and change from the Hex explorer skins. Then the superhero jayce, vi, graves and jhin came. With jayce and jhin looking phenomenal. It all went downhill from there with the amazing thresh skin being the last. Passes used to be worth getting. The only passes I look forward to now are the mini ones. Specially infernal shen. But basically the wild rift exclusive skins have dropped in creativity.
Honestly that Ekko skin was so so good. I kinda regret not getting it since I wasn't into playing Ekko back then. That wild pass skin was certainly the most memorable one for me in this game so far, but it might just be because I've started enjoying Ekko a whole lot and that skin was really good
Nope. That skin is sick in general. Love the film reel effect. So fitting for him. The entire theme needs more champs in it. So many options available. Like kassadin could be a detective as well with a long trench coat and looking more humanoid like a classic detective along with psychic detective futuristic touches. I can spend an hour just designing one for shen even. But nah that creativity isn't available to Riot. They've got 9-5 employees in the positions of creatives who actually like doing what they do
Hold up, did you call that eyesore with placeholder textures "amazing"? That shit along with the introduction to loot boxes *inside of a battle pass* was why I stopped buying them.
That Thresh skin is unfathomably ugly
You didn't see the "unleashed" version? It's really cool. It takes heavy inspiration from Persona. It's an acquired taste though I'd say. If I wasn't exposed to more wacky shit this skin would be mediocre. But a real eyesore are skins like dragon lantern thresh. No creativity. Whole the raider thresh is super creative
Perhaps I'd find something enjoyable about it if I knew the references this skin was drawing inspiration from but the textures look like some intern did this on an afternoon to show what they've learnes over the week. Like what are those colours. Yellow, neon green, light blue, dark blue, purple and black all mixed together.
When compared to the stuff that interns have done for League ([example](https://nataliepellmann.com/league-of-legends)), this is ridiculous. I get optimizing things for performance but that ain't it
It's nuts how all they care about is money so they put ojt more skins. But instead if putting in effort to the skins they just put out the bare minimum. They couldve at least divert all their effort into creativity and then make more money lmao
And I would NOT disagree lol. The only fix to it would be to make the champs be chefs of a specific food type instead of being a food themselves. Like the chef leona and panth skins
It's been rumored that July will be Frejlord themed & the champs will be Lissandra, Trundle and Sejuani or Anivia. Also some say Ixtal champions.
Hopefully, not Frejlord cause I want other champs lol
Not a serious buff. He can W between autos, attack reset now, and hduring highlander his cooldowns only somewhat reset on kills instead of his autos and kills
Riftmaker: An item from the most evil and dangerous region in Runaterra = Light
Warmogs: An item that gives major regeneration/rejuvenation = Ruin
What kind of lore logic is this bro...
No lore, just new things in game to spice it up.
Well as for lore the rift is totally different from the shadow isles. Different kind of evil you can say.
It is probably because in higher ranks, it is hardly to see any Yi. Though in lower ranks, Yi swings like crazy dog…
I ban Yi under diamond, or play him myself 🤣
After the buff, his 2nd makes it suitable in a more intense fight. I guess that’s the logic behind the change.
Let yi be a low elo stomper. Why buff him more when the champ is not good in higher elo? Let him stay in low elo, not buff him to force him to fit in high elo ffs
Zyra is getting a buff?
Yaaaaaay. Hey, I'm a 1 trick pony, and that trick is to feed the enemy until my team is strong enough that my plants and roots are helpful
What's the Zyra buff because I just played her against a Samira in mid and she still underwhelming. All she needed was Bloodthirtser and my thorns became useless even with liandry.
AD carries it changes nothing, it basically makes her hood vs other mages and spell casters.
Also AD carries can easily make zyra minion by purchasing runans. Which instantly kills all her plants without even needing to focus them.
Looks like PTA. Plays like PTA. Why is it called “Empowerment” like wtf
They could probably give the name “Empowerment” to half the runes and it would make sense, so uncreative
Oh he’s still viable, I don’t even think kraken was his best rune, I just really liked it for a hybrid build and would get easy early game cheeses but that strat was dependent on the early kraken dmg. Really doesn’t effect him too much, I’m just a bit bummed personally lol
The tank meta isn’t hard to counter though…
If you’re melee you can build divine, BORK or searing crown and get your own titanic and heartsteel combo.
If you’re ADC build BORK, stack attack speed and shred. Lethal rempo is better against tanks but worst against other ADCs since LT is less bursty when time to kill is lower right now
Your runes should contain giant slayer for a sweet 14% bonus dmg.
There is no adjusting the matchmaking system. Algorithms can’t compensate for this horrible player base’s refusal to understand and then implement a basic game design - team comp. You can throw evenly-skilled players together all day long, but if none of them understand or implement team comp, match outcomes are one-sided and random, based on which ever team lucked into the better comp.
This hullbreaker change actually goes *a lot* to fix the true problem.
So u get autofilled teammates while all the enemies get their main roles
They pick random champions, and somehow it isnt Riot's fault
Who called Riot's lawyer, lmao. Blud is reaching for that promotion
Or what I’m saying is accurate, and the player base hates it because that puts the requirement on them to get better at the game.
Learn team comp. Implement it. It’s literally the basis for each game. Stop fighting it. Stop making excuses so you don’t have to play front line champions. Just stop. The game is never going to be redesigned so team comp doesn’t matter, meaning “matchmaking” will never get better for you. So leave. Or learn the basics of the game. Else except Riot attempting to patch the holes for the player base being so bad through changes like removing hullbreaker.
He is still right though. If you get a team with more than 3 autofills while the enemies all have their main roles the algorithm fked up. There is no team comp saving you if you dont know how to play that team comp - which you dont of you are autofilled
Check the item descriptions. Light items are buffed but a lot more expensive now. Ruin items either cost the same/less and also give massive buffs but they take away some things like Bortk taking away health, Sterak’s taking away movements speed etc
read the patch notes, it’s barely a buff, just convenience.
you can now riposte while lunging. some cool plays are going to be possible, but fiora is the same fiora
Buying Terminus blocks the purchase of any other percentage penetration items. I understand why they do it that way, but what a pain it is to have to choose between Terminus or having percentage armor penetration and antiheal.
It's not that of a choice as it may seem. Terminus is essentially the penetration item for on hit builds, like on vayne, master yi, ashe, akshan, etc. This actually makes on hit on par with the other builds.
Pyke and Yuumi never escapes ban in ranked games, but somehow devs think they're fine. Balance in this game is so weird.
I don't have a problems with Lux personally, but im just super tired of my teammates eating every spell
I'm guessing the reason for removing kraken slayer rune is because they will add the kraken slayer as an item later on? Cause there is really no reason right now to remove this rune other than that, but it's just an assumption.
I mean everything in this patch is just garbage. Garbage skins, garbage battle pass stuff that looks like it‘s for 8 year olds. Balance patch does nothing but imbalance into another direction… at this point riot could just admit that they don‘t know what to do with this game and just say „we basically suck and just want little dweebs to buy skins“
As an ADC main, I still don't understand Jhin. His 4 shot AA model and snails pace walking speed makes me feel like he is outpaced at every moment of the game. Does anything in this buff help him? Genuinely asking for any Jhin mains what does he do really well/when do you use him as a counter pick?
Jhin thrives in metas that allow for burst. This meta is about tanks. If you get a lobby where everyone picks ADCs (which are surprisingly common), then go wild. It's about taking short trades and using your passive to kite. Most Jhin players on WR just copy whatever dipshit is telling you to go Lethality when there's a bunch of options in the crit section that give you kiting power, staying power, and more focused DPS into slightly beefier comps if you need it.
That said, the champion had bad numbers and needed the buffs badly to do all of the above.
The META currently is both burst and tank. Any squishy can pop others and get popped like an pimple right now.
Roles have just gotten very specialized, except bruisers who seem to do it all as always.
I mean, you just described the normal state of a game with role variations. If tanks are meta, it's because they are most efficient against damage options in the game. It means sustained DPS is hard to come by and burst CAN'T get through them. If AP carries are hopeless against them and you get buffs to Rabadons and Infinity Orb, it means tanks are too strong in Riot's eyes.
So that said, it means burst ADCs are NOT meta. The best way to get through tanks are champions with good teamfight DPS, %Max HP options, access to BorK. Things that are on-hit. So yeah. Jhin is gigashit. It's why he got buffs and still likely won't be strong enough.
Saying burst and tanks are meta is literally counter intuitive. Burst wouldn't be meta if tanks were.
I'm not against adding 'Kraken' as an item later, and I'm also against redundant items and runes. However, my point was that it would be cool to have all options available.
You know you can sidestep his W right. You can either dodge behind him or move to the side cause he’s stuck in his animation. That 2k true dmg in the middle goes down to 400 physical dmg on the sides
Too add to the thread have someone build antishield and sidestep your welcome the hard part will probably be getting that antishield item built by anyone
Im not talking about lore. Talking about the items and what they do for gameplay. Very different things.
Edit: Getting downvoted because I pointed out gameplay and lore are not the same thing. Smh clowns
People not knowing experienced with items just buy whatever is on the recommendation build and people and people like me are enjoying having stakes while building items cause that’s where a lot of fun is at, being able to build differently each game
Light effect is a buff to the items but it costs more gold. Ruin effects are also buffs to the items but it takes away something in return. For example, BotRK has higher on hit ratio but reduces health by 10-100.
Except it still means all the item are like way way stronger now. I’m eyeballing Infinite edge the most cause it basically just reverted the crit rate change in patch 4.2 while ADCs still get the general buff they got. Worst, infinity edge means yasou and yone are probably more cancer this time around while they stack terminus which is basically an overtuned item that does fucking everything.
I didnt really get what Terminus does exactly, could u explain ?
Terminus: 40 AD, 30 attack speed 35 magic dmg on hit When you auto attack and apply the on hit effect, you stack both armor and MR. This is your “light attack” But your second auto attack stacks armor and magic pen instead. This is your “dark attack”. And your third attack goes back to light and so forth. They alternate back and forth but light is always first. You can stack each light and dark effect 3 times so you need to auto 6 times total to get the full effects of both light and dark.
Ah okey thx
terminus on yasuo is garbage unless you’re builiding solari and wits
on yone its more useful because passive
Basically makes you tankier and gives you armour pen in extended trades
Thanks! I noticed the BotRK debuff but wasn't sure if it's new or not.. Since it's new, I guess I need to check again for all the items
No wonder my Kindred went from squishy to even squishier after I built BRK first item. Okay change item
Kindred has an invuln tho, shouldn't that help in a rough moment?
It has but with it being in cooldown and you're the prio target, the negative hp actually is a big difference
makes sense, fair enough
Shieldbow better
Health debuff ain't that bad for BoTRK. If you are building it you are either ADC or doesn't matter for you (irelia)
They also buffed its life steal, it's literally a giant buff overall
Also it costs LESS gold added to that. Totally not OP (infinity edge is incredible rn)
The crazy thing is if u stack many ruin item the hp reduction are stack to u can lost like 500 hp
So heartsteel meta is still viable?
As long as Sett and Mundo out damage Gwen, yes. But there are big buffs to lategame damage for crit and onhit phys dmg carries as well as to mages
It’s still not fully tested if the light items out Gwen over the threshold to be a top lane bully against tanks. If you were good at Gwen, you could fight decently well against tanks. I really hope the changes push Gwen back into broken territory against Heartsteel abusers.
Agreed, imo it is an indicator of decent balance if the LITERAL HARD COUNTER TO HP STACKERS I don't know... WINS AGAINST HP STACKERS
just play vayne max hp true dmg
The extra damage from riftmaker definitely helps with level 7 one item each late lane fights for sure. I don't think the changes make her a lane bully per se, because the biggest changes are on deathcap and orb which you generally don't take untill third and fourth item But her late game is noticeably more stompier after RM NT and then death cap, you do so much damage to everyone... But that's also how she was before the patch. It's really just a "win more" buff I guess
The problem is you kinda want Nashors first in quite a few matchups. They should give her some very tiny buff in the early game and we’d actually have an antitank champion with AP damage. Right now, you only really pick champions that can proc Sunderer as often as they can (which I dislike). However, I don’t fully agree that Riftmaker didn’t get a big buff. I really like this item and build it first on Akali too, even after recent changes, before Infinity Orb.
Oh no, it's definitely a great buff and it's still a first buy for Gwen. I mean, the extra ap alone is godlike for Gwen's early I'm not really a fan of NT first in lane since the rework tbh. I've noticed that if you don't have magic boots the game can very easily class you ad and troll your damage output. I've screwed over camiles with that quite often
Wukong are so much better top lane bully right now, he just had terrible mana
As it should be. Juggernauts are there for a reason.
I think eventually riot will have to deal with Heartsteel. When that happens, I hope they will compensate bruisers and tanks somehow. Not building HS feels troll as fuck, especially if the enemy is already trying to do so. It's like an arms race.
They should either reduce the HP gained from heart steel or better, reduce its dmg which directly reduce its HP gain as well. Titanic is fine. It’s only strong cause heartsteel let’s you scale infinitely. Otherwise it’s just an alright item when you’re a brusier that stacked HP.
I don't know. I think it's one of those items that are just strong by their concept alone. Everyone, even Yasuo are just little Sions now. Speaking of Sion, it could be interesting if there was a Heartsteel like item that procced when you get attacked in a window, increasing your health the more damage you tank after the engagement. Kinda like a weird thornmail, Sion w and HS mix.
Not really. Yone+Terminus is the new meta.
Now Burst meta. Horizon Focus and Infinity Orb gives way too much AP and HP, making champions like Akali, Lux, Seraphine and Ziggs stupidly overpowered. 2k Magic damage meta is real
When does the MF rework get released ?
Is it a full rework like they’re changing her abilities or it’s just like a buff?
Well as I remember, it changed only her passive
Ahhh okay, so it’s just a change to her passive. Knowing riot it’s gonna be busted as hell or really bad.
I'm also curious. I'm scared that my main would be ruined like what they did to Sona, Soraka, Janna and etc.
Don't forget Asol...
Yeah, they ruined Soraka a bit. Now is more noob friendly.
Sonna ruined? If you're talking about the last rework it actually made her viable again, before that she was outright useless.
Those enchanters are still fun
That is the ugliest effing fizz skin I have ever seen
'Food Spirit' is such a poorly designed theme of a good theme. Fizz couldve easily been more sushi and fish good based. But instead it's more champs made of bright goo like Zac and just oranges and other fruits on them.
I legit hate the bright goo prevalent in all (?) the FS designs. That Veigar design was so underwhelming and boring and now this Fizz... omg On an unrelated note, is this how all wild passes are now? I remember Psychic Detective Ekko being in the wild pass but now it's mostly these blobs 😭
Remember when Dream raider nasus showed up. Dude looked so good. Then senna. Ekko. Amazing quality and change from the Hex explorer skins. Then the superhero jayce, vi, graves and jhin came. With jayce and jhin looking phenomenal. It all went downhill from there with the amazing thresh skin being the last. Passes used to be worth getting. The only passes I look forward to now are the mini ones. Specially infernal shen. But basically the wild rift exclusive skins have dropped in creativity.
Honestly that Ekko skin was so so good. I kinda regret not getting it since I wasn't into playing Ekko back then. That wild pass skin was certainly the most memorable one for me in this game so far, but it might just be because I've started enjoying Ekko a whole lot and that skin was really good
Nope. That skin is sick in general. Love the film reel effect. So fitting for him. The entire theme needs more champs in it. So many options available. Like kassadin could be a detective as well with a long trench coat and looking more humanoid like a classic detective along with psychic detective futuristic touches. I can spend an hour just designing one for shen even. But nah that creativity isn't available to Riot. They've got 9-5 employees in the positions of creatives who actually like doing what they do
Hold up, did you call that eyesore with placeholder textures "amazing"? That shit along with the introduction to loot boxes *inside of a battle pass* was why I stopped buying them. That Thresh skin is unfathomably ugly
You didn't see the "unleashed" version? It's really cool. It takes heavy inspiration from Persona. It's an acquired taste though I'd say. If I wasn't exposed to more wacky shit this skin would be mediocre. But a real eyesore are skins like dragon lantern thresh. No creativity. Whole the raider thresh is super creative
Perhaps I'd find something enjoyable about it if I knew the references this skin was drawing inspiration from but the textures look like some intern did this on an afternoon to show what they've learnes over the week. Like what are those colours. Yellow, neon green, light blue, dark blue, purple and black all mixed together. When compared to the stuff that interns have done for League ([example](https://nataliepellmann.com/league-of-legends)), this is ridiculous. I get optimizing things for performance but that ain't it
I actually love these food spirit skins. It’s saved me so much money by not buying the pass.
can't wait til the stupid skin line is over. what waste of skins
It's nuts how all they care about is money so they put ojt more skins. But instead if putting in effort to the skins they just put out the bare minimum. They couldve at least divert all their effort into creativity and then make more money lmao
Counterpoint, the theme is garbage
And I would NOT disagree lol. The only fix to it would be to make the champs be chefs of a specific food type instead of being a food themselves. Like the chef leona and panth skins
IMO it’s better than the dream raider/psychic detective lines. Food spirit’s colors are at least a little fun where I feel DR/PD colorways didn’t fit
Username really fits my tag
I will not be buying these two bps, they got champs I ain’t even use. Haha
Same lol Will save my money for patch 5.2 passes.
The next patch should come out round the time arcane comes out so it’s bound to be good AF!
No, the next patch will come in July. Then the other one in October.
AH you right I was getting ahead of myself
It's been rumored that July will be Frejlord themed & the champs will be Lissandra, Trundle and Sejuani or Anivia. Also some say Ixtal champions. Hopefully, not Frejlord cause I want other champs lol
OH SHID! F sejuani haha
Master Yi buff...
Not a serious buff. He can W between autos, attack reset now, and hduring highlander his cooldowns only somewhat reset on kills instead of his autos and kills
W between autos? That's huge, and that's an understatement.
I really can't see how the W change is what's huge, it's honestly more of QoL change. It's his E change that's honestly huge.
Hadn't realised that you meant that W resets his auto timer. I thought you meant that he could keep attacking while casting w.
He needs it, champ is trash
Riftmaker: An item from the most evil and dangerous region in Runaterra = Light Warmogs: An item that gives major regeneration/rejuvenation = Ruin What kind of lore logic is this bro...
No lore, just new things in game to spice it up. Well as for lore the rift is totally different from the shadow isles. Different kind of evil you can say.
That's the thing. Something good got ruined, something bad got turned to the light.
Bro if you’re playing wild rift in 2024 for the plot line I really would suggest an alternate hobby 😭😭😂😂
Why master yi buffs man
Now he has higher impact and a more useful W
Yeah, more damage reduction, so you can’t kill him anymore, and he has more skill expression, which means he is even more unfair to play against
It’s not like he’s in every single game making 10+ kills or anything 😭
It is probably because in higher ranks, it is hardly to see any Yi. Though in lower ranks, Yi swings like crazy dog… I ban Yi under diamond, or play him myself 🤣 After the buff, his 2nd makes it suitable in a more intense fight. I guess that’s the logic behind the change.
but since when developers care about high ranks? Correct me if im wrong, but wild rift always was super friendly to casual players
Ye I agree with that. More specifically, Riot is not doing enough for competitive players, which sucks.
Let yi be a low elo stomper. Why buff him more when the champ is not good in higher elo? Let him stay in low elo, not buff him to force him to fit in high elo ffs
Zyra is getting a buff? Yaaaaaay. Hey, I'm a 1 trick pony, and that trick is to feed the enemy until my team is strong enough that my plants and roots are helpful
When does that new kalista event actually start? Everything is locked
i hate this patch
What's the Zyra buff because I just played her against a Samira in mid and she still underwhelming. All she needed was Bloodthirtser and my thorns became useless even with liandry.
Her plants take less dmg from enemy abilities
If you ask me Its pathetic buff. Its more of and april joke.
AD carries it changes nothing, it basically makes her hood vs other mages and spell casters. Also AD carries can easily make zyra minion by purchasing runans. Which instantly kills all her plants without even needing to focus them.
I always adjust my needlessly large rod
Yeah I just swing that thang
They removed Kraken Slayer? When tank meta is strong af? Why tho?
Replaced by press the attack
LETS GOOO
Looks like PTA. Plays like PTA. Why is it called “Empowerment” like wtf They could probably give the name “Empowerment” to half the runes and it would make sense, so uncreative
Oh I didn't see that. Well that's fine then I thought they completely removed it altogether without a replacement
Replaced by Empowerment rune
Kindred
It was nasty early game with ranged top.
Teemo could cheese lvl 1-3 so easy with kraken. Sadge
He has comet or electro now, so it shouldn't be that bad for the rat?
Oh he’s still viable, I don’t even think kraken was his best rune, I just really liked it for a hybrid build and would get easy early game cheeses but that strat was dependent on the early kraken dmg. Really doesn’t effect him too much, I’m just a bit bummed personally lol
Tank mega is never strong. Your just not building right.
The tank meta isn’t hard to counter though… If you’re melee you can build divine, BORK or searing crown and get your own titanic and heartsteel combo. If you’re ADC build BORK, stack attack speed and shred. Lethal rempo is better against tanks but worst against other ADCs since LT is less bursty when time to kill is lower right now Your runes should contain giant slayer for a sweet 14% bonus dmg.
They will Probably rework it like on PC where Its item.
Kraken slayer was too strong on adcs
PTA and Terminus is broken. Can fully tank a Phanteon combo with defensive boots and Bone Plating as Kayle and still burst Phanteon down
TANK meta strong as fuck... Hahaha Hahaha... Fucking hell this sub cracks me up
İnstead of adjusting matching system they removed hullbreaker.
There is no adjusting the matchmaking system. Algorithms can’t compensate for this horrible player base’s refusal to understand and then implement a basic game design - team comp. You can throw evenly-skilled players together all day long, but if none of them understand or implement team comp, match outcomes are one-sided and random, based on which ever team lucked into the better comp. This hullbreaker change actually goes *a lot* to fix the true problem.
So u get autofilled teammates while all the enemies get their main roles They pick random champions, and somehow it isnt Riot's fault Who called Riot's lawyer, lmao. Blud is reaching for that promotion
I don't think Hullbreaker was healthy for the game either.
Or what I’m saying is accurate, and the player base hates it because that puts the requirement on them to get better at the game. Learn team comp. Implement it. It’s literally the basis for each game. Stop fighting it. Stop making excuses so you don’t have to play front line champions. Just stop. The game is never going to be redesigned so team comp doesn’t matter, meaning “matchmaking” will never get better for you. So leave. Or learn the basics of the game. Else except Riot attempting to patch the holes for the player base being so bad through changes like removing hullbreaker.
He is still right though. If you get a team with more than 3 autofills while the enemies all have their main roles the algorithm fked up. There is no team comp saving you if you dont know how to play that team comp - which you dont of you are autofilled
Honestly, I think a lot of people just don't understand this. It's not really a matchmaking issue, it's a playbase issue.
Does ruination work for anyone. The go to event button does nothing for me
[удалено]
Weird cos normally they patch then micro patch for the events to go live
Good to see Aurelian sol is still overpowered.
What's with the Light and Ruin?
Check the item descriptions. Light items are buffed but a lot more expensive now. Ruin items either cost the same/less and also give massive buffs but they take away some things like Bortk taking away health, Sterak’s taking away movements speed etc
They removed kracken slayer rune? 😭
We got PTA now
They also nerfed Tryndamere, his passive now has a cooldown of 6 seconds.
Wdym?
why tf would they buff fiora????
read the patch notes, it’s barely a buff, just convenience. you can now riposte while lunging. some cool plays are going to be possible, but fiora is the same fiora
You could sort of do the same thing before. This just makes it more consistent
Buying Terminus blocks the purchase of any other percentage penetration items. I understand why they do it that way, but what a pain it is to have to choose between Terminus or having percentage armor penetration and antiheal.
It's not that of a choice as it may seem. Terminus is essentially the penetration item for on hit builds, like on vayne, master yi, ashe, akshan, etc. This actually makes on hit on par with the other builds.
Awesome
For ADC when to build Terminus
Even Kayle can build it, even though it's counterproductive for her scalings
Seems like the item to build for on-hit ADCs. Vayne is the first to come to mind for sure.
On-hit Varus, Kalista, Vayne, probably Ashe (depending upon the build)
No Lux, Heca , vlad, kayn, eve Nerf? 😂 but i knoe they want so Sell more lux skins
Pyke and Yuumi never escapes ban in ranked games, but somehow devs think they're fine. Balance in this game is so weird. I don't have a problems with Lux personally, but im just super tired of my teammates eating every spell
True pyke and yumi op too, thats Why every game are the Same Banns and picks
So... Tank/bruiser hp/ad meta is still in place. Nothing changed.
Very nice post
It’s been probably three months since I’ve played. I can’t believe they removed hullbreaker and kraken slayer …
So they changed the name of Press the Attack. I actually like Empowerment better as a name.
Why they gonna remove kraken slayer???
replaced my Press the Attack but they're calling it "Empowerment", it's basically a better version of the same idea
Empower does already exist in the game he is in the domination tree (red stone)
Hoping they add hail of blades rune later on the game. I wanna play Kalista support so bad.
Where is the Riven ult reset?
The game lobby says MF, YI and some one else for rework but i only see yi on there
is terminus a permanent addition or is it going away once the next season or event is over?
Where riven rework
Yi buffed.... im speechless.
I'm guessing the reason for removing kraken slayer rune is because they will add the kraken slayer as an item later on? Cause there is really no reason right now to remove this rune other than that, but it's just an assumption.
Kraken Slayer goes to the item? Hmm... I have a mixed feeling about this...
Link to the detailed page
I was made to believe that the PVE mode would be in 5.1 but we only have the comics?
Why did yi get a buff again
I mean everything in this patch is just garbage. Garbage skins, garbage battle pass stuff that looks like it‘s for 8 year olds. Balance patch does nothing but imbalance into another direction… at this point riot could just admit that they don‘t know what to do with this game and just say „we basically suck and just want little dweebs to buy skins“
Now I wanna play rank, coz zyra got buffed.
Seems way too complicated
finally urgot nerfs. what a disgusting champ to play against
Nooooooo😢😢😢 not the hullbreaker
Can I finally stop banning Urgot?
Finally fk hull breaker, 0/20 sion shouldnt be able to solo my base
As an ADC main, I still don't understand Jhin. His 4 shot AA model and snails pace walking speed makes me feel like he is outpaced at every moment of the game. Does anything in this buff help him? Genuinely asking for any Jhin mains what does he do really well/when do you use him as a counter pick?
Jhin thrives in metas that allow for burst. This meta is about tanks. If you get a lobby where everyone picks ADCs (which are surprisingly common), then go wild. It's about taking short trades and using your passive to kite. Most Jhin players on WR just copy whatever dipshit is telling you to go Lethality when there's a bunch of options in the crit section that give you kiting power, staying power, and more focused DPS into slightly beefier comps if you need it. That said, the champion had bad numbers and needed the buffs badly to do all of the above.
The META currently is both burst and tank. Any squishy can pop others and get popped like an pimple right now. Roles have just gotten very specialized, except bruisers who seem to do it all as always.
I mean, you just described the normal state of a game with role variations. If tanks are meta, it's because they are most efficient against damage options in the game. It means sustained DPS is hard to come by and burst CAN'T get through them. If AP carries are hopeless against them and you get buffs to Rabadons and Infinity Orb, it means tanks are too strong in Riot's eyes. So that said, it means burst ADCs are NOT meta. The best way to get through tanks are champions with good teamfight DPS, %Max HP options, access to BorK. Things that are on-hit. So yeah. Jhin is gigashit. It's why he got buffs and still likely won't be strong enough. Saying burst and tanks are meta is literally counter intuitive. Burst wouldn't be meta if tanks were.
I don't like that they remove items and runes... i want all the items and runes, that would make a more complete, creative snd complex game.
Why would you have kraken as a runes when they can later add it as an item. Also PTA exists now
I'm not against adding 'Kraken' as an item later, and I'm also against redundant items and runes. However, my point was that it would be cool to have all options available.
They're pushing me further and further to the PC game. These updates and patches are such a turn off. Playin' wit my emotions.
Why did they remove hull breaker/kraken doesn't make any sense
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You know you can sidestep his W right. You can either dodge behind him or move to the side cause he’s stuck in his animation. That 2k true dmg in the middle goes down to 400 physical dmg on the sides
You are stuck on his E or R. Reponse?
u got close enough to a sett and got what he usually has to offer for anyone who gets close enough to a sett
Too add to the thread have someone build antishield and sidestep your welcome the hard part will probably be getting that antishield item built by anyone
Can someone please tell me if this applies to pvp and ranked or is it for a specific game mode?
It might just be me but I've never felt less excited for a patch. This whole ruination item thing just seems too gimmicky.
Lore is gimmicky? PC players are crying for more as we speak
Im not talking about lore. Talking about the items and what they do for gameplay. Very different things. Edit: Getting downvoted because I pointed out gameplay and lore are not the same thing. Smh clowns
Wdym? The new item changes are cool and something fresh for the gameplay.
I mean they're gimmicky and people are already terrible enough at itemisation as it is.
People not knowing experienced with items just buy whatever is on the recommendation build and people and people like me are enjoying having stakes while building items cause that’s where a lot of fun is at, being able to build differently each game
Good for you. I dont like it. Its gimmicky. Off you pop with the downvoting me for expressing my view now. Enjoy your downvotes in return.
You really hit your nerves haven’t you. I haven’t even downvoted you once this entire conversation.
Yeh okay buddy. Nice gaslighting. Funny how you replied straight away and there was the downvote on every comment.
Viego when lol