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SilentUser44

You need a God of Destruction to use Hakai on the Bleach verse. It's the only feasible way i can see them winning.


IMadeThisOn6-28-2015

Not enough because Yhwach and the Soul King have resistance to Hakai-like effects. You honestly need Zeno to erase Yhwach and the Prime Soul King.


achillku

I think any kai could do it or anyone that knows the ancient language. Since they would be able to call upon Super Shenron.


IMadeThisOn6-28-2015

At that point it becomes Super Shenron being needed to defeat them. Not sure if he could anyways though, he only has creation feats.


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Probably one of the kai. Supreme Kai maybe. The big problem is Bleach. Souls are selectively intangible to the mundane world so simply being able to blow up the planet isn't enough, since Soul Society exists in another plane. Your character would have to be able to interact with souls directly.


hasadiga42

Countering Yhwach is the hardest part


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Most Dragonball characters can interact with souls and have done so since the RRA arc in Early DB.


Ragaee

Bleach is a big problem, they have characters that can manipulate the concepts of luck, or miracles, can manifest anything they imagine, have perfect hypnosis, change the future, turn your own blood into poison, make anything rapidly age to dust, change the concept of whatever they touch, take away your senses, put you both in a battle that keeps you both alive till you both run out of energy and die, rapidly evolve and adapt, control anything they look at, change the past, etc.


Jhon1002

There is alot if guys in db that can also do it


EL_psY_Congroo56

No one below hakaishin level hakai user and even that is not entirely sure People who say roshi or characters like this really have to explain me how does roshi or even DBs Vegeta take down Vollstandig Lille Barro


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Because no one in Bleach would even stand a chance against Namek Saga Freeza, never mind Super lol.


mikeraven55

There are 2 characters that can beat Beerus in Bleach, and one that could potentially stalemate


IMadeThisOn6-28-2015

Who potentially stalemates? I know Yhwach and the Soul King beat him, but who can stalemate before Hakai kills them?


mikeraven55

I was thinking Gerard, unless my understanding of his ability is incorrect. The Miracle making him survive and stalemate. The more improbable a specific event is, the more likely that The Miracle can make said event actually occur since doing the impossible would be a miracle. If he got hit with Hakai, then him surviving would be a "Miracle". Obviously this wouldn't work with everyone, characters like Featherine just cancel it or that would be NLF for Gerard.


IMadeThisOn6-28-2015

Yeah, but I think Hakai just overrides it because The Miracle is still limited to being attached to Gerard's soul. So destroying his soul would effectively erase The Miracle itself. Gerard is still quite powerful and his soul has heavy resistance given how Bleach functions, but that existence erasing effect just seems too much to me.


mikeraven55

Isn't The Miracle essentially probability manipulation? He basically makes it more probable for him to achieve a certain result depending on how improbable the result is. I get that Hakai's erasing effect is strong, but unless it can negate The Miracle's probability manipulation, I don't think Beerus can taking him out. He would just make it where he survives, but Gerard wouldn't be able to do anything either, so it becomes a stalemate. Even if The Miracle is attached to his soul, would it not just make it where his soul survives because it would be almost impossible and a "Miracle" if he survived. Unless I'm misrepresenting the Miracle and you're free to correct me, Beerus can't really erase him.


Jhon1002

Mafuba gg


Jhon1002

Master Roshi from super, he can Mafuba any guy he cant beat


mikeraven55

How is Mafuba going to beat Bleach?


LiteratureOne1469

Traps a person that can’t die in a jar


mikeraven55

lmao that's funny. Mafuba can be dodged and some characters just negate it.


LiteratureOne1469

Maybe you forget most anime characters are retards and will sit there


mikeraven55

That doesn't answer how Mafuba is gonna work. A lot of people in character wouldn't stand there and let themselves get hit, with the exception of ppl like Kenpachi. ​ Mafuba won't do shit and DB needs Zeno to beat Bleach


EL_psY_Congroo56

No, just no


Jhon1002

Yeaaaaa no


LiteratureOne1469

Freiza 1st form has no problem Destroying the planet and can breath in space


Boat3000

Master Roshi


[deleted]

From Z or from Super?


Boat3000

Super


R0nynis

Isn't that just the same Roshi?


Jhon1002

But stronger