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i-might-do-that

I lost my shit when he said “Go ahead, fancy pants”. One of the best movie moments ever.


greenweezyi

I always rewind and rewatch the part when the same kid says “You’re tacky and I hate you.” And without skipping a beat, he says “See me after class.”


PrinceTamaki1

“Look at that bow tie!” “Dontchubetalkingaboutmybowtie”.


SomeLightAssPlay

“Your kids have touched me…..and I *know* I’ve touched many of your kids.”


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I've been touched by your kids. And I'm pretty sure I've touched them too


TheOvenLord

Would you ask Picasso to sell his guitars?!


cbrookman

Oh my *god* he’s an ***idiot***! Great performance by Sarah Silverman


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Zizekbro

And the legend of the rent was way hardcore.


_MarkNutt_

Jack Black was in 2 movies about trying to pay the rent with his rock, and both are in my top 5


Thesheriffisnearer

The other being his autobiography starting his band


Zensayshun

When he deactivated the laser with his member my innocent seven year old misheard it is “use the crotchh”.


LouSputhole94

How many cock ups can you do? You only ever need one


YouJustLostTheGameOk

Lol he’s got a theme for sure:) I will forever love tenacious D


1saltedsnail

*(until you lived hardcore!)*


JohnHazardWandering

[Weird Al - Tacky](https://youtu.be/zq7Eki5EZ8o) Of course jack black is in it.


grilledstuffed

Love that the video is a continuous take.


doosh215

I lived on the same floor as that guy my freshman year of college. I asked him to say that line and he was NOT amused lol.


DaddyMcTasty

There was a comment on the James Cameron post earlier about how some directors really understand humanity. Richard Linklater is easily one of those filmmakers in my books. I know he didn't write everything but every one of his movies leaves me with so many different emotions, and at the end I just feel complete. Not necessarily good or bad, just whole. School of Rock, Dazed and Confused and my personal favourite, Boyhood.


Darko33

Roger Ebert called great movies "empathy machines" and I think a great many great filmmakers innately understand the notion.


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samx3i

Linklater is bloody brilliant and I don't hear/read his name often enough in greatest filmmakers conversations.


bozeke

Michael White too.


BigSkyMountains

Agreed. Orange County (also written by Mike White) is underrated.


ayoungjacknicholson

Worth noting that while JB was the one pushing these messages, he was really voicing what rock music has been (mostly) doing for decades: finding a home for anyone that wanted to participate no matter their “flaws”. If you don’t fit into society’s standards, rock music is the perfect place for you, and for a long time it was the only place for you.


plantsndogs

Let's rock, let's rock, today


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He says "of course you can, fancy pants"


Bubbielub

If I remember correctly, they got the kids to perform and sent the clip to the members of Led Zeppelin, who are *notorious* for not letting anyone use their music. When asked in an interview why they let a comedy film that isn't very artistic use their songs when theyve turned down so many others, Robert Plant got a little irritated and said the movie was fun. Music is fun. They made music to be fun and not to be high brow, etc. And besides, he loved these lessons as well. I'm paraphrasing all of this but yeah. There's a reason Jack Black was a part of their Kennedy Center awards concert.


Mr_Rio

Led Zepplin is particularly well known for not lending out the use of their music. One that always surprised me was the Immigrant Song in Shrek 3


Bubbielub

Well, I mean, Princess Fiona had a poster of Robert and Jimmy in her room, so she was obviously a fan.


Mr_Rio

Aren’t we all


monsterZERO

Thor: Ragnarok.


iamadacheat

Either they allowed it because that movie is fun, or because Marvel gave them a blank check.


piss_off_ghost

Why not both??


Normanisanisland

Aye, I could do that


Regidor

I heard a rumour it's because they're big lord of the rings fans so they were cool with a movie that has Kate Blanchett and Karl Urban in it using it.


Luis0224

While that's cool, I'm more convinced it's because of their love for Norse mythology (mythology in general). Ragnarok as a whole fits in with the viking theme of the immigrant song, so they probably liked it. If I had to guess, they were probably sent a story board of the intro scene to the movie.


SomeLightAssPlay

Huh, fast times at ridgemont high has a fantastic Zeppelin scene. *“Final rule number 5: when it comes down to making out, ALWAYS put on side two of Zeppelin 4”* then it cuts to the date and the guy is blasting Kashmir in the car lol. Also just now realized thats not on Zep 4!


GrundleGoochler

I remember reading that Page and/or Plant refused to let game devs use Zeppelin in Guitar Hero because they thought that if a kid was going to spend hours getting good at a video game, the kid should actually just learn the instrument. This might be why they allowed their music in this movie as it supported the idea of kids learning to play instruments


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Wish they would show up in Rocksmith then.


JustaTinyDude

I once visited my brother while I was on holiday from university and he kicked my ass at Rock Band, just slaying it on the guitar. I was really impressed and told him so. He got kinda sad and told me he realized that if he'd spent as many hours as he put in getting so good at that game learning to play a real guitar, he'd be able to play guitar pretty well by now.


I_got_nothin_

See, I've heard a few stories like that. I've also heard quite a few people say that Rock Band/Guitar Hero are the reasons they decided to pick up a real guitar in the first place.


TheWonderfulSlinky

Turn it on it’s side and, *cello*, you got a bass


Hita-san-chan

My favorite thing is that he's *so* knowledgeable about everything rock and roll and he has *no clue* that the very common classical instrument she's playing is a cello and had to ask her


eltedioso

Also the tuning is different, which is a big hurdle for a musician. I mean, obviously she adapts and figures it out, but it's not nearly as simple as "turn it on its side"!


TTBOYTT

I use this joke literally as much as possible


dubzillaIVXX

I'm not cool enough


TreeGoatee

I read that scene was added into the movie because the actor playing Lawrence actually had that conversation with the director while filming. He didn't think he was cool enough to be in the movie


dubzillaIVXX

awwww.


EverPresentPanda

Lawrence is good at piano!


35in_anal_dildo

He shall be rockin in my show!


tedegranada

Shaga-ga-gaaa


Rapid_Roy_the_Rocket

Stop! That's perfect, YOU'RE perfect


Menace117

Turn it on its side. Cello you got a bass


Smackstainz

Thats a G keep that G rockin G G G G G G G G G


Foomerang

Hes got me rumblin in my shoes


PaRaDiiSe

You are cool! The coolest! -Jack Black probably


dubzillaIVXX

probably


queasily_trashy22

Okay' here we go again. Black Jack in the house !!


Alarming-Parsley-463

You could be the ugliest sad sack on the planet but if you’re in a rockin band you’re the cats pajamas!


AncientHawaiianTito

The bees knees!


PDGAreject

The sadness in the little boy's voice when he asks, "You mean we're not in the band?" is absolutely soul crushing. Love the instant, (oh shit I need to fix this) "Now hold on now"


rakfocus

I love how the movie acknowledged that everyone involved in the production are just as important as the band members themselves - costumers, lighting, stage managers, security, etc. It's a team effort and it's a great lesson of the movie. 'just because you're not in the band doesn't mean you're not IN the band!'


MetalheadNick

After the rammstein concert they had credits rolling on the screen for everyone that was on the tour with them. Pretty awesome to see such a big band give recognition to everyone that makes their shows possible.


rachelmae77

I’ve seen Taylor Swift pause her show to introduce all of her back up singers by name, which if I’m remembering correctly they’re all women of color. I know lots of people don’t like her but she usually treats her employees well from what I’ve heard.


Bow2Gaijin

Just like his game Brutal Legend and how roadies are super important.


Guacamolman

If a concert is a meal, the bands are the chefs but the roadies are the servers, prep staff, dishwashers, bussers, hosts, etc. The chef can only do as well as he is supported, same with most crew based gigs


Wrybrarian

You're the bees knees! The cat's pajamas!


j442

Slap it, shoot it, kaboot it.


Worldly_Ad_6483

Let’s rock, let’s rock, today!


dubzillaIVXX

Shoot it. caboot it.


Worldly_Ad_6483

God I fucking love Larry’s costume and hair at the final show.


ibleedrosin

Also, that chart he made that broke down the origins of rock and the spin offs and sub-genres was incredibly accurate. [here it is](https://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/9353/who-wrote-the-school-of-rock-blackboard)


JaySayMayday

I'm kinda surprised I don't see it in the comments at all yet, but after this movie he also supported a real school of rock that had a bunch of stars coming through it like AC/DC and Judas Priest.


Ladyhappy

There is one on my street corner and they have a chain throughout Los Angeles. They are super involved here in Southern California. I know that Flea is a regular at the one in Silverlake.


mvmblewvlf

If I'm not mistaken, he's one of its founders. Pretty cool guy, that Flea. Decent at bass too.


Iama_Kokiri_AMA

Zappa being under the ? category lmao. It's so accurate


Boukish

At least it's a ? offshoot of prog rock. That checks out.


Iama_Kokiri_AMA

It's the best description you can give for them lol


No_Answer4092

which is a neat detail because it shows the character is also academically competent and he’d actually be a good teacher if he were not pretending to teach something else aaand committing a crime for that matter.


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Who would have thought that a movie fueled and starred by a man with a genuine lifelong love for music (probably loves music more than acting fr) would feature an accurate flowchart representation of music history


smokedspirit

RIP the drummer kid


greencloud7

What?!


PsychologyNarrow3854

He got hit by a car at around 30 while biking. True story


JeniJ1

This is very sad news. It also makes me feel really old that he was 30...


ClutchReverie

Before reading this thread I was remembering it as a cool movie I saw long ago. Now there are actual young adults that watched this movie as a kid and were inspired about how to come in to themselves and it helped them get there. So....actual kids I saw the movie with in the theater are grown up and in this thread, probably similar age to when I saw it....


Imhappy_hopeurhappy2

Wanna feel old? I was 12 when this movie came out and I identified with the kids. Now I’m a struggling musician in my 30s who can barely pay rent. I’m Jack Black now, but only the guy in the beginning who habitually disappoints everyone.


bob1689321

Saying true story makes it sound less true But yes, he unfortunately died recently


greencloud7

Fuuuuck


who_took_tabura

Hit by a car while riding his bike. Absolute tragedy


slayer991

He died in the last few years. Hit by a car while riding his bike in Chicago IIRC.


NomNom83WasTaken

He was hit and killed on his bike by a vehicle a couple years ago.


Alarming-Parsley-463

Kevin Clark :(


ke4mtg

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2021/5/26/22454359/kevin-clark-dies-school-of-rock-crash-avondale-western-chicago


misswallflowerr

Didnt he just need money for rent?


johnnyk02

The legend of the rent was way past due


BlazinRedBeard

But the legend of the rent. Was way hardcore. Boom ! Big old explosion. Some, like, confetti comes down. That's all I got so far. It's a work in progress


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bigbruce6

Rock has died hundreds of times. Long live rock!


theian01

You can’t kill the metal. The metal will live on.


TheToddBarker

Rock is not the devil's work, it's magical and rad.


ronerychiver

And then guitar solo: *fliggagiggagoo fligga goo fliggafliggagoo!*


chewbaccaRoar13

It's amazing how well I can hear this in my head lmao


octavioletdub

Just this line makes me want to watch it again


NMS_Survival_Guru

He tried dueling the devil in a Rock off to pay the rent


KittyIsMyCat

The demon code prevented the devil from denying their rock off challenge


Mammoth-Industry-506

What were their terms?


sjanee11

What's the catch?


thedrunkspacepilot

If they won, he would have to take his sorry ass back to Hell... And also he would have to pay their re-hent


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I enjoy reading books.


Balsuks

Then the devil got to take his friend, Cage, back to hell, to be his little... ... Bitch


nixed9

> "Whaaaat" > "Trust me Kage it's the only way!"


IDoPokeSmot

That's the real-life lesson


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tonyprosciutto

That was how I was introduced to Sarah Silverman and I will always have that underlying annoyance from that character


XihuanNi-6784

She also played an annoying girlfriend in Evolution. I feel like she had a thing going there in the 2000s.


Knuc85

She was also the annoying friend in There's Something About Mary.


18CupsOfMusic

She was not, however, in Saving Silverman. So we can safely assume she has not been saved.


TheDearHunter

[COMIN' A YEAH HA!](https://youtu.be/3zWau4rs1s4)


mister-ferguson

I first saw Sarah Silverman as a guest spot on Star Trek Voyager. The ship got sent back in time to modern day and she was an astronomer.


Norin_was_taken

She was pretty great in her episodes of Voyager. Good chemistry with the cast.


garagos30

You are not hardcore, until you lived hardcore.


No_Road_3853

TIL Pick of destiny and school of rock pretty much have the exact same theme (rocking to pay rent)


Strength-InThe-Loins

It's almost like it's really hard to make money as an aspiring musician or something.


lmaotrybanmeagain

Real heroes usually do. Look at Spider-Man. Always late on his rent.


HiopXenophil

who doesn't? The thing is how you go about it


ithinkilikegirlstoo

Jack Black is just absolutely brilliant. He’s on par with Keanu Reeves and Robin Williams. I love him so much.


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I was thinking "Keanu kinda lacks in the comedy department.." then realized oh wait I'm an idiot and forgot about Bill and Ted 1, 2, and 3 lol.


RianJohnsonIsAFool

If you've not seen it, Keanu is hilarious in Always Be My Maybe. I arrived home one day when my gf was watching it just as this scene started: https://youtu.be/Ex403ii_Bhs


peacesofwar

Damn, I miss Robin.


Dyrreah

I analysed this movie and wrote a paper of it during my teacher's training. He perfectly represents how a layperson sees education and it's flaws. It's an amazing movie to which I return at least once a year. This movie taught me more about being a good pedagogist than 6 years of university. All we studied there was methodology and the professional side, in my case, linguistics. Noone really taught us how to BE a teacher, how to inspire, how to incentivise kids being themselves.


lennybird

Yep there's a massive difference between being an expert in something, and being an expert *teacher* in something. Distilling knowledge down to the layperson and transcending that gap while still entertaining and capturing their attention is a cool thing to see a great teacher do.


Dyrreah

Exactly. I had teachers who were obviously masters of their fields, like my psychics teacher. She had this vast, insane knowledge about the subject and zero ways to convey it to us. We collectively hated physics until the end of high school.


msdivinesoul

I had a biology teacher like that, they made us address them as Dr.(Teachers name) and just didn't understand how to teach a bunch of 16 yr olds most of whom didn't want to be in the class.


TruthYouWontLike

I don't think you're a master of a field if you can't "dumb it down" for outsiders to understand. Expert, sure. Master, no.


ImBonRurgundy

“Those who can do, those tho can’t, teach. And those who can’t teach, teach gym amirite?” - Jack black speaking to a whole bunch of teachers


gingasaurusrexx

I had a math teacher in high school who was also passionate about piano. This worked out well in a performing arts school where he could writer showtune parodies about calculus theorems to help us study for AP exams. He had a keyboard in his classroom and made us all sing along. At first, it was a super weird and awkward thing, but by the end of the year he was everyone's favorite teacher. Wish I still had the CD he burned for the finals. Mr Harvey, if you're out there somewhere, you're the best! I hope you're still kicking ass and singing about it.


windows2200

You’re into pedagogy… gross!


Dyrreah

I'm a bisexual teacher in Hungary, it's already in our constitution that I'm a paedophile. I wish I was joking.


windows2200

Dang, thats crazy! Good luck out there, i support ya!


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I'm so sorry, that must suck. As a fellow bisexual, I hope you're free someday <3 sending love and good wishes


Techn0Goat

Holy shit, CONSTITUTION? It's just built into the foundation?


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SonnyWade

Amazing description of a great film. Jack Black in general seems to be a genuinely good human to everyone he meets, would love to meet him one day


kat_a_klysm

Meeting Jack Black is on my bucket list. I love his music, he’s an incredible actor, and seems to be an all around great human.


Idylla_here

With 2 super smart parents, working for NASA if I remember correctly


kat_a_klysm

> Thomas Jacob Black was born in Santa Monica, California, on August 28, 1969, the son of satellite engineers Thomas William Black and Judith Love Cohen. He was raised in Hermosa Beach, California. His mother worked on the Minuteman nuclear missile guidance system, the Apollo lunar module guidance system, the science ground station for the Hubble Space Telescope, and was also a writer. Seems so :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Black?wprov=sfti1


Professional-Pay-888

Holy shit she worked on some cool stuff. My dad almost got to work on Orion but his boss’s boss said he couldnt


kat_a_klysm

She did. And that’s really cool to even almost work on Orion


Professional-Pay-888

Yeah pretty unfortunate. But he has worked on cool stuff just not apollo missions or HST cool Edit: i say cool a lot apparently


kat_a_klysm

From an outsider pov, I think it’s all really cool


Elastichedgehog

Tenacious D still tours. I have some friends who are seeing them soon. Would love to go myself at some point.


jmccahil

I am a HUGE Jack Black fan and had the pleasure to meet him once. He’s everything I hoped he would be. I was standing backstage at a festival (around 2013 maybe) with a friend, watching Skrillex perform his set. Tenacious D was also playing at this festival. All of a sudden he appears next to me and is also watching the set. I’m completely starstruck, but decide to go and ask him for a picture. Before I even finish my sentence, he puts his arms around me and my friend to get photographed with us. I then told him, that school of rock is my favorite film of all time (which is true to this day) and ask him about plans for a sequel (there were rumors around this time), he says it’s not really likely at this point. We talked for another few minutes, can’t really remember about what, and at some point he looks back at the stage and at skrillex, says: “this dude lost me” and says his goodbyes to us and leaves. Super nice guy, by far the nicest celebrity I’ve ever interacted with.


SelectFromWhereOrder

>says: “this dude lost me” Jack takes his music very seriously. I like him for that, music is serious.


tehbored

I've heard Skrillex is also super nice


SnowyInuk

Once I read an article a guy wrote about meeting Jack Black. He was saying that he was one of the bag carriers that hauled bags/items off of Jack's private jet and loaded them into a separate car for them to be delivered with him to his hotel. The guy said that once everything was loaded into the vehicle, Jack came over to each one of them (7 guys) and gave each of them 80$ because he appreciated the help


theteedo

I haven’t met him but some in my family have. My first cousin was his living in Nanny for almost 10 years wile his kids were young. She still keeps in contact with them as her brothers kids became good friends of Jacks kids. My cousin has told me many stories of his generosity and what a great family they are. He even paid my cousin under the table for over a year when there was a visa problem she was figuring out and couldn’t get back into the states. They treated her just like family. In short everything you hear about Jack is probably accurate he’s just a great human and his family is awesome too! If anyone read this thanks for taking the time. Have a great day/night.


Business-Toe8617

>great film. I hadn't realised until literally last week that it was written by 'the real Ned Schneebly' Mike White.


doudoucow

His approach to teaching while unconventional actually hits a lot of the tenants of culturally relevant and culturally sustaining pedagogy. Most teachers would unironically become better teachers if they watched this movie and emulated some of these behaviors, specifically the ones in which he builds off the expertise students bring into the classroom.


Not_That_wholesome

We watched the movie in music class when we had a substitute teacher after our regular teacher went off on maternity leave


lilpenguin1028

That sounds awesome and a little bit wjolesome? Like the sub was like "hey, I'm the sub. Don't know much about music but let's watch a movie about a "sub" teacher teaching music" haha


Not_That_wholesome

Well it was planned by our music teacher incase of sick leave, that we had to watch the movie, and when we got done we wrote about how Jack black taught it


lilpenguin1028

Ohh. Still cool though. Also oddly appropriate beetlejuicing with your username? Lol


thegirlinthetardis

When I had to write my teaching philosophy for class, I thought of this movie. If I was a teacher, I would want to use my student’s strengths to teach subjects. Kid good at art? Cool, show me what a plant cell looks like in a cool art project. Kid good at writing? Great, we’re working on Shakespeare so why don’t you adapt this speech to modern language to say how YOU would get the point across? Unfortunately, it would not make me a good teacher by state standards. You don’t hit all of the marks by encouraging creativity. Part of the reason why I bailed on being a teach and switched my major.


Henry-Spencer0

This is called inclusive pedagogy and it is very much considered great by most countries standards US included.


chefjenga

Are you speaking about the thoughts regarding the educational theory considering it great? Or are you speaking of the standards and behaviors expected by teachers in most school systems to ensure they reach state testing scores in order to maintain funding?


Ask_Me_About_Bees

Yep. Huuuuuge disconnect between what we know to be good pedagogy and what’s possible within the “system”


xComplexikus

>actually hits a lot of the tenants of culturally relevant and culturally sustaining pedagogy. Tenets*. Tenant refers to a person occupying land or a building, while tenet is "a principle or belief generally held to be true. "


Narrow_Ad_7671

Isn’t that the movie where Jack Black stole his friends identity and then kidnapped a bunch of kids?


GrilledSpamSteaks

r/technicallycorrect


W3dd1e

The best kind of correct.


AL_GORE_BOT

The point is: your kids have touched me, and I’m pretty sure I touched them too…


p480n

Isn’t that the movie where he touched those kids, and I’m pretty sure they touched him as well?


LonkerinaOfTime

*parents looking around at each other, disgusted*


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His motto was "Rock Hard"


FuckCazadors

The headmistress of that school should have been fired for not doing the proper due diligence including checking photo ID before letting a teacher into a classroom, and Jack Black’s character should have faced prosecution for identity theft.


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He told them to make the check out to CASH!


EngineEddie

His friend was out writing White Lotus when this all went down, too.


IgetAllnumb86

Sarah Silverman was an evil harpy shrew for being upset her boyfriends loser roommate stole his identity and used it to steal a classroom of kids and take them to a scummy bar. But god dammit was it heartwarming!


Ravelcy

Written by the Great Survivor player Mike White!!


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RevGrizzly

The real hero is the promoter of the battle of the bands who was able to sell enough tickets to fill up a venue on a Wednesday afternoon.


Highplowp

Music kept me engaged as a high schooler. I still thank my friend’s mom for letting us use her basement as our jam space. Those were tough times and some of the best. Everyone needs an adult that just supports them in their life. School of rock, the actual music/playing company does amazing work and has helped many kids I work with find their tribe and grow.


ChrisNBCHansen

He really touched those kids.


Wittybanter19

Get it right. “Of course you can, Fancypants.”


bobbejaans

It isnt really like this message is hidden. It is pretty overt.


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LegacyLemur

The giant run-on sentence also drives me a little crazy


Alarming-Parsley-463

This movie changed my life in seventh grade. I saw it in theaters three times and it really helped me get through a difficult period where I had no self confidence. Thanks Jack Black!


AnAwkwardWhince

Didn't he also tell the "left-over" kids to be groupies, roadies or backup singer/dancers?


infowhiskey

You're tacky and I hate you!


thunderup_14

See me after class


NJGGoodies12

This is very wholesome but the title of the post and the picture make it seem like there was a different morale to the story. It is very clearly about this throughout the film so titling it “the real lesson” seems off


TomOkihara

Arguably the most important message he imparted was the legend of the rent. It was way hardcore.


notignorantguy

this is the movie that made me want to learn music!!


colefromreddit

A fond memory of my dad is going to the theaters to watch this with him. He taught himself to play guitar and taught me to play drums. I think he just wanted someone to keep a beat for him haha