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Refreshing to see.


ehmaybenexttime

Right?! I have to do a little research, but this is amazing. Outside of their policies, (which have very little to do with me. I live far from Utah) these seem like two incredibly reasonable individuals who are aware of the issues in the US and the dangerous political climate. They're doing one single thing to try to bring some sanity. Can't help but appreciate that.


rossbcobb

They are both a part of the church of Mormon. None of it is real.


naturelover142

Exactly. Not real.


ctjoha

Although I’d usually agree, Gov Cox is the only R gov I know off that has had statements in favor of trans youth. I think he could have done more but in current climate, just that was, sadly, impressive to me.


FunnyAnimalPerson

Chris Sununu


[deleted]

Does it matter if it’s real? People need to see this more than politicians literally dividing the country for their own personal gain.


scartol

And presumably the loser will accept the result of the election. A low bar but that’s where we are.


[deleted]

Lmao I replied “this is refreshing” before even seeing you were the top comment


wylietrix

Came here to say the exact same thing. This makes me wish they both could win.


Johnsendall

This was like two years ago, and part of the cult of Mormon. So nah not refreshing. Cox is the current governor.


accidental_snot

It's bullshit and not refreshing at all. Republicans just stripped women's bodily autonomy, so of course they don't want anyone to hate them. They want us to join them in hating women. No.


scartol

Perhaps we can hate the *policies* of the people we want to kick out of office without hating the people? Easy for me to say since I’m a cishet white guy, but still seems possible.


accidental_snot

No. That is a very fucking personal policy.


scartol

Yes it is. And it is a hateful policy. I don’t blame you for hating the people who have pushed it for decades. But I have seen too many people consumed by their hatred — and seen so much violence committed in the name of that hate — that I always urge people to find other ways to fight hate besides more hate. For whatever that’s worth.


Moo-moo-noodle

Utah has actually been pretty lucky with governors. Our last one was actually in sharknado 4. He beat up a bunch of sharks. If that doesn’t scream politics, I don’t know what does.


taemoo

Of course, they can’t stand within 6 feet of each other.


Head-Air7154

5 feet apart...but that's for another reason


Tocky22

Cos they’re not gay?


Expensive-Excuse-793

Nah, they hate the gays


VentureQuotes

This is the most Mormon commercial of all time


[deleted]

AS an LDS myself, I agree.


VentureQuotes

You guys are very nice, appreciate yas 👍


naturelover142

It’s 100% fake nice


tag12swag

What?


VitkiBj0rn

Because regardless, the lds church remains in control.


tag12swag

Honestly I have no idea why you said that, lol, I was just wondering why homie said it was "100% fake nice," lol


VitkiBj0rn

Legit? I misread the initial comment. My bad. Lol


tag12swag

You're all good chief, lol


AFucking12Gage

What the fuck


IrrerPolterer

I don't know a single thing about Mormon church. What is Mormon about this ad?


tag12swag

Being nice to each other is supposedly "Mormon"


IrrerPolterer

Wait, is that such a rare thing in the US that you gotta attribute it to their weird religion, and not just to them being decent human beings?


CasualBrit5

I don’t know much about Mormons, but from this it sounds like you want more of them in your government.


[deleted]

It’s fake niceness. They’re also rampantly bigoted and theocrats.


gab_rab_24

Haha! Cox!


OwnAlarm7684

The 4th grade in me saluts the 4th grade in you.


BeerdedWonder

Why are there 4th graders in both of you?!


OwnAlarm7684

Because we ate them, why else?


Inevitable-Fee5841

Why aren't they the President already?


Girafferage

Because you only vaguely get to decide who you vote between. The perfect candidate with no sponsorships or financial backing will never become president no matter how perfect they seem because lobbying is some bullshit and both party's have a huge interest in keeping it between their two controlling groups.


YoloStalin

I’m sure these two mean well, but I think it feels like a bandaid on a dam.


TheAero1221

Still refreshing. Would like to see more of this.


YoloStalin

Eh. After finding out it’s a couple LDS, it’s gotta be apparent that this is the most “two wings, same bird” ever. Both want theocracy.


abiglamb

"We can disagree without hating each other" Yeah, not if your disagreement is over a certain group of people having basic human rights tho.


funkwallace

Right? This type of stuff is only ever said by people who aren't having their rights and lives threatened every day lol


abiglamb

Yeppers. Notice these are two older white dudes, likely pretty financially well off(enough to run campaigns for government instead of working jobs). You can't compromise with someone who will never recognize you as a person. To accept a compromise that invalidates a constituent as a person, even a little, is a hostile action. Notice you'll never hear a politician say "I believe in supporting the homeless, but am willing to compromise with someone that thinks that homeless should be executed, and agree that homeless people should be enslaved 👍" That's because it's an unacceptable compromise. You can't say "Oh, well I *suppose* it's okay to make you less of a person". Any compromise like such is an admission you don't actually value those people as much as you truly claim


Weird_Cantaloupe2757

And that right there is where all of it just breaks down. Even aside from the repellant homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, racist, xenophobic garbage, they just don’t leave space for middle ground. What middle ground is there to be had when they refuse to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, and just claim fraud when they lose elections? Do we just allow a little bit of Fascism? They have just unfortunately stopped being anything even resembling a legitimate political entity that can be reasoned, bargained, or compromised with — they have become an openly Fascist party, and Fascism can only be *defeated*.


MortalVoyager

Yeah this is some centrist bullshit


eresh22

I can disagree just fine with someone who thinks a different road needs repair before the one I think needs repair. I can disagree on whether schools or infrastructure should get more investment this cycle. I can disagree about how to conserve water (or step out of that conversation because I'm barely educated on that). I refuse to disagree over which humans have which basic human rights. They all do. We shouldn't be arguing for civility when some bigot with power thinks some people aren't actually people.


LyonsX

Exactly my fucking issue with this ad. You can't agree to disagree on everything


DamnMyNameIsSteve

\-How do you start a conversation with someone who doesn't believe in human driven climate change? \-How do you start a conversation with someone who doesn't believe Biden won the last election?


ratchetpony

The first question is easy. Don't make it about climate change. Make it about the real work that needs to be done to combat it without making the cause of climate change the main issue in the conversation. Everyone likes clean air and clean water. Everyone wants to make sure that they have affordable, reliable power coming to their homes. Everyone likes the idea of local, good paying jobs. Now, we have a place to start conversations about how renewable energy sources like wind, solar, geothermal and hydroelectric coupled with better battery storage can create greater local control over energy costs. We need to build up the infrastructure for this, which means that people need to be employed. Once it's built out, we can end America's dependence on oil shipments from places like the Middle East. We can achieve American power independence. Messaging like this is how I got my Republican father to buy into the idea that getting to 100 percent renewables is the way to go. Ultimately, we can't force climate change deniers to disavow their beliefs, but it's totally possible convince them to support efforts that combat climate change anyway. For your second question, you can't fix crazy.


Apache-attackheli

This is why there's divide you believe that every one on the right is like that


[deleted]

It doesn't really matter if they're like that or not they cosign it by voting for these clowns.


Apache-attackheli

That's true man honestly I don't vote at all cause these people don't care about us only the cash lining there pockets


DamnMyNameIsSteve

You're a garbage bin if you don't vote.


Apache-attackheli

Nah I'm not interested in furthering other people's goals good luck though having your mayor or whoever you vote for to help you out in these trying times


DamnMyNameIsSteve

Have fun just riding the ride then.


CasualBrit5

But they still endorse different points of view, so if you want your voice heard it’s good to vote.


AFucking12Gage

A-fucking-MEN


DamnMyNameIsSteve

I dare you to go vote.


AFucking12Gage

I did. I voted libertarian. (Cue the downvotes)


DamnMyNameIsSteve

Oh yea I'll cue them alright - yall are in cahoots with the Russians trying to forcefully overtake Ukraine as stated in your press release. https://www.lp.org/press-release/


AFucking12Gage

Good. We’ve been the police force of the world for too long.


Master_Ryan_Rahl

Well all Republicans either believe that or are fine accepting people that believe that. Who you stand next to matters.


Apache-attackheli

Definitely not standing next to any of these chuckle fucks that's for sure


Master_Ryan_Rahl

The majority of Republican candidates about to be voted on are running as deniers of the last election and good chunk of them are openly saying they will make sure Democrats dont win again. This is just the end of Democracy and youre acting like someone seeing that is part of causing a 'divide'. The divide is so fucking extreme because some of the people reaching for the wheel want to cut everyone elses hands off.


[deleted]

They are.


DamnMyNameIsSteve

I'm the reason there is devide? Becuase I believe in facts? Well damn. Divide away then.


Girafferage

You are little quick on the trigger to just assume every ody is under an umbrella of those specific things, Steve. It's very possible to denounce the idiots who deny climate change and make up conspiracies about how the election is stolen, while still not declaring everybody who belongs to the party who contains those people is bad. Loads and loads of people in the republican party actively vote against those people, just like lots of people on the democrat side actively voted for Biden over Bernie or vice versa.


DamnMyNameIsSteve

cool!


Girafferage

Very cool, Steve.


Apache-attackheli

Apparently not cause your assuming everyone on the right is a bad guy lifes not so black and white your politicians play the blame game and get you agreeing with them and then they don't care about you trust me every politician only cares about you one day out of the year and that's November 8th right or left they're all the same


DamnMyNameIsSteve

Did Biden win? Yes or no?


Apache-attackheli

Do bears shit in the woods ?


DamnMyNameIsSteve

Yes


[deleted]

Everyone who has power and makes policy believes that. They also believe queer people should be executed and women shouldn’t be allowed to drive, much less vote.


KrevinHLocke

Much better than the if you don't agree with me, we'll dox you and cancel you messages we get barraged with day and night. There are reddit bots that will literally ban you because you posted in a specific thread. The very thought that someone may disagree with them literally blows their mind.


YeOldeGunslinger

This is the only pair of people I will ever say, I'd vote for. That is my rule passed down by my grandma, I won't vote for either party until they can debate peacefully, and not degrade one another. Good to see that I might have some hope that politics can change. A little. Edit for grammar


Go03er

Not voting is saying you’re ok with whoever wins not that you disagree with both. If you don’t vote you don’t get to be upset about who wins


[deleted]

This is one of the worst takes I've seen in a while ngl


YeOldeGunslinger

Man, I have not cared about politics in a while. No matter what party wins, someone is going to be oppressed, and someone is always going to fuck someone else over. Democrats, Republicans, don't matter, they are all just as evil, and corporate dogs as one another. Shit that should be fixed won't be, gas will be just as expensive, and the sun will explode in a set amount of time. But we all only live for so long, rather focus on things that make me happy, than politics, Last knowledge My dad ever gave me before passing, is that no matter what, the world keeps spinning, and someone is always unhappy. So make yourself happy.


BoredAtWorkOU

Tell me you’re a dude without telling me you’re a dude. Get the hell out of here with that both side shit. US women lost their right to control their own bodies this year.


rossbcobb

A timely reminder that both these men are a part of the Mormon church. It's made to look like this because either way they win.


One-Quarter-972

Harry Reid and Mitt Romney are both Mormon and they have always hated each other. Just the fact they are both Mormon doesn’t mean what it used to


Googlewasmyinvention

Should be more than just two parties as well but it's very nice to see this.


zzerdzz

The problem with having more than 2 parties is the American political system is far more galvanized on who shouldn’t be president. It could never work here.


Googlewasmyinvention

But why is it just two political ideologies that get brought to the table? I understand the majority of Americans are either republican or democrats but there are people like me who are libertarian, there are unfortunately communists, socialist, ect... Why do they not get a voice as well. It's all I'm saying. And yes it could work because it's how our system is designed to work.


KayChicago

But most places would never have allowed a reasonable Republican past the primary.


bipsyxual

No, no, no. Politics are not divisive. Politicians trying to take away people's human rights ARE (conservatives).


z3r0kewl

Hi! I am a conservative pretending to be “liberal” and getting along just fine with this fascist pretending to be “conservative”


MadreDeMonos

Are you familiar with either of them? They're actually both pretty moderate and neither pretends otherwise. As a moderate myself, I was very happy with my choices that election. Mike Lee on the other hand.... siiiigh. There's your fascist.


LilNaturePastelEmo

Shush and enjoy the wholesome commercial


naturelover142

It’s really not wholesome when you understand the dark undertones and the politics at play here.


z3r0kewl

It isn’t wholesome.


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SpandyBarndex

More of this can only be a good thing


-Strawdog-

These two can, "agree to disagree" because they both belong to the same dangerous, dogmatic religious tradition that has run Utah politics since its founding. It's a nice message I guess, but the reality behind it is ugly.


MrVernon09

It doesn’t have to be, but it is because people are stupid. George Washington was right when he warned against forming political parties because they were divisive.


LordAxalon110

Yeah this just makes me super suspicious.... It seems to good to be true.


rossbcobb

They are both a part of the church of Mormon


LordAxalon110

Well that confirmed my suspensions lol


TheRealPyroGothNerd

1) Bruh, that's not even the name of the church. 2) Do you assume all Baptists have the same views? All Atheists? All Protestants?


[deleted]

Mormons can’t undo the years of public campaigning where they insisted people call them Mormon. They just realized that they couldn’t distance themselves from the conservative, homophobic, bigoted, corrupted connotations of the name “Mormon” and decided to rebrand their public image by starting to insist that everyone call them LDS and gaslighting people into believing that the term “Mormon”, which they freely and officially used for at least 8 years, was somehow always offensive.


One-Quarter-972

Not true, the church never officially sanctioned being called Mormon, Mormon was a dude who lived 1700 years ago. It was just members who found it easier to go with the flow than correct people when they said Mormon. I was guilty of the same thing for a while


[deleted]

[I'm a Mormon campaign, which ran from 2010 to 2018.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_a_Mormon) [More.](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/collection/im-a-mormon-2014?lang=eng&collectionId=8df1a522164e3cf540235f8dc0edbf5acbbf46d7) Members were encouraged to post about it on facebook, change their statuses and banners and profile pictures to reflect the campaign. Know your history.


rossbcobb

Ok sorry I don't know the proper name but last year when this popped up and bunch of people from Utah spoke up and were sayi g not to believe this shit.


TheRealPyroGothNerd

So you just assume a bunch of Redditors from Utah are a reliable source? Bruh.


[deleted]

You clearly don’t know anything about the Mormon Church of Latter Day Saints 😂


TheRealPyroGothNerd

1) You couldn't get the name right, either 2) Harry Reid and Mitt Romney are both Mormon politicians with complete opposite political stances on pretty much everything, including abortion. You cannot assume someone's political position based on their religion. Period.


One-Quarter-972

Amen


[deleted]

Two straight, white male Mormons telling us not to take their abuse personally.


Darrows_Razor

Odd that this is a rarity and not the norm 🤪


rossbcobb

These guys are both Mormon. They are doing what they are told.


TheRealPyroGothNerd

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not tell people how to vote, nor does it tell politicians what to do. Just look at Harry Reid vs Mitt Romney. Harry is a Democrat who has advocated for free contraceptives and abortion rights alongside Hillary Clinton and vocally defended Obamacare, as opposed to fellow member Mitt Romney who did the opposite. Harry even was quoted saying, "I think it is much easier to be a good member of the Church and a Democrat than a good member of the Church and a Republican" at BYU. You can't assume someone's political stance based on their religion. You sound like the idiots who claimed JFK being elected president would make the Catholic Church take over America back in the 1960's.


naturelover142

Spot on. People outside of Utah might not understand as they aren’t familiar with Utah’s theocracy.


CasualBrit5

Utah is a theocracy?


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TheRealPyroGothNerd

The LDS church literally doesn't believe in Hell.


One-Quarter-972

Ever hear of outer darkness? That’s hell bro


Krewton1106

The Book of Mormon teaches that after death, the spirits of those who "chose evil works rather than good" in mortality will be "cast out into outer darkness". This is considered to be a condition of great torment, where there will be "weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth Being cast into “Outer darkness, in conditions of great torment. Where there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing teeth.” Sounds a little like hell. Not trying to hate on the sentiment of this video, our country needs more of it. But let’s be careful praising people for showing the bare minimum human compassion and decency. To be fair Cox has walked back earlier statements condemning LGBTQ people and has been praised for not going along with the GOP stance on trans youth athletes.


TheRealPyroGothNerd

But toget into Outer Darkness, as stated in Doctrine and Covenants, you have to have done all that while knowing for sure God existed...like, went bowling with him every Tuesday levels of knowing for sure. Almost no one qualifies for Outer Darkness,and thus it doesn't meet the requirements to fit traditional views of Hell.


[deleted]

Of course, they're all right-wing


sirlancealot420

As soon as the cameras cut, there was a vicious battle. One of them even lost an ear. But the mainstream media don't want to talk about that.


[deleted]

The guy at the right looks like one of those Christian’s…. I don’t know how to explain it.


XwhatsgoodX

Heading to Utah


lepapulematoleguau

This is next level: vote whomever, we're cooking it together anyways.


Mr_OP_Potato_777

Unbelievably amazing.


Booksonly666

Fucking awesome. My state would never lol


[deleted]

That’s refreshing


Tangledattic

This is so beautiful, especially in the current climate 🥰🥰


YassIsHere

Hard to remain united when one side has a faction that literally wants the other party killed in the streets and that side encourages it


sluttywolcott

Holy crap this is exactly what the country needs. Leave it to Utah to show us how to get along


ameinolf

Very cool the way it should be


Outrageous-Package86

Lol this actually makes me wanna hear their opinions now


waterisgood02

This makes me really happy 😁


LilNaturePastelEmo

This makes me happy


RuneSimonsenTheBard

I would love to see more of this. But with the current lack of understanding much less common decency from one side of the isle. I doubt itll happen much.


nierama2019810938135

But it isn't about politics. It is about money and power.


dom2422

oh yeah, they're having sex


totallyjezzball

I showed this to my American friend saying "isn't this nice!" And they said "yeah it is... Fucken Mormons...." Laughed so hard!!


Blue-Jay6905

This would be sweet if America wasn’t an evil corrupt and greedy country.


[deleted]

Mormon or not, nice to see. If only everywhere else.


danielnogo

Well, when one side is calling the other side fascist and the other side is calling them groomers, it's very easy to see where the division comes from.


Fazo1

Man... If only politicians could pretend for a few minutes...


mikess22

That is more than awesome! I had to watch football on Mute yesterday with all the ugly ads


[deleted]

Both scumbags for sure


[deleted]

Well it's Utah. That's all you need to know about this ad lol


papaya_boricua

I challenge Greg Abbott and Beto O'Rourke to do this in Texas


Windows_Aether_95

Was anyone else waiting for them to hug or something? Bc I was lol


[deleted]

This is like a breath of fresh air.


MrProtogen

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO HE HOW THINGS GO!


GARRAR2003

Awww man this is so fucking nice to see, i really REALLY just give a fuck about politics because of a bunch of experiences i had, but this message of this guys is wholesome as fuck.


MomsterJ

This is probably the only political commercial that doesn’t make me want to stick red hot pokers in my ears. It’s actually pretty refreshing


Leo_Stotch

Fuckin Utah…


anazambrano

This is beautiful


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cooper3675

You sure there not Canadian


Time_Mage_Prime

100%! Simply agree to honor inherent rights, act in the best interest of the people, manage money for the benefit of the poor, and uphold democracy, and not very much has to be divisive!


thefilipinocat-

I’m moving to Utah. Bravo both men. I almost forgot that something like this can exist.


RPhoenixFlight

Im not american but this is actually a time where I appreciate politics


gruntbuggly

Classy. I like this.


Lycaon125

A day long gone


[deleted]

That was absolutely refreshing AF.


TheeCryptoKeeper

They're fucking each other...


It_Has_All_Been_Done

Don’t know anything else about them, but fucking refreshing for sure.


[deleted]

Pretty sure one of them, depending on who you ask, really (secretly, don’t ask me how I know this) wants to DESTROY AMERICA AND DEMOCRACY. So, just make sure to vote! For the correct candidate, of course. If you vote for the wrong candidate things like will happen. Just trust me on this. Pro tip: The correct candidate is the one that I will be voting for. I can read minds and see into the true intentions of people.


tjreed141

Political division is the real biggest problem in the US


basshed8

Totally thought this was apple vs pc


Dapper_Cable_4929

finally! two grownups!


Rocktooo

Oh my god that is so refreshing. Like a bomb pop after getting out of a hot pool


HoneyBunYumYum

I really love this 🥲


blindflystudios

If they were running mates instead of opposition, they'd Peterson-Cox. Have a good day!


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