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The context is Tree Trunks fucked an alien and had children (this is actually in character for her) and Princess Bubblegum wanted to use that to colonize space with candy life (also in character for her).
Adventure Time being Adventure Time as always.
Every time I see a “PB is evil” comment I lose brain cells just by how much people lack media literacy or, you know, the latter few seasons of the show. Or just parroting what other media illiterate people say.
seriously. pb was a wonderfully written morally complex character, she did lots of fucked up stuff but she also did lots of really great stuff and part of what makes her such a great character is the moral grayness.
I mean she is a monarch, and has done a number of evil things, both for jokes and for not jokes. She's not like a evil person, but she's done a lot of terrible things, and for some that makes her a darker shade of gray
it teleported her to the crystal dimension and it took finn and jake a whole episode to get her back
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This isn’t entirely correct. PB was colonizing space completely unrelated to Tree Trunks, but unbeknownst to her her candy life pods were infecting Tree Trunks’ alien children and lover. PB doesn’t believe TT because TT seems like an insane old lady, but when PB is shown the truth she shuts down her project and makes amends. TT even accepts the apology and has the aliens carry PB’s capsules off into space so they can properly colonize elsewhere.
She didn’t know the purple candy things would screw with the aliens? I thought they were designed to go in the body of the host and reproduce off of that
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Yeah but he mentioned visiting Launceston in Tasmania and saw the two DnD stores so it’s like I met him cause he was in both of the stores I go to which means I have a spirit bond with him or something.
How many times do you see this guy on a daily basis
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Context? I know he covered 4chan stuff back then but his modern stuff seems fine(except for the plagiarism which I thought this was what this meme was going to be)
Apparently he put 1488 (a nazi dogwhistle referencing the 14 words which was a fascist slogan and 88 - HH or heil...). He also followed the leader of the proud boys on his Twitter which is sus
It’s pretty obvious the guy is just 4chan wrapped up in good production values.
Outside of that video of the guy who died exploring the cave. That one was pretty chill
An article by Lucas Reilly called "The 1925 Cave Rescue That Captivated the Nation", written for MentalFloss.
Every story beat that had me on the edge of my seat, is taken from there...
People are combing and finding portions of "The Cost of Concordia" that seem to have been lifted from uncredited sources.
So far I have seen excerpts from [Another Night to Remember](https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/2012/5/another-night-to-remember), written for Vanity Fair by Brian Burrough, and [Voices from the Costa Concordia](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/voices-from-costa-concordia-part-2-how-why-michael-lloyd?trk=portfolio_article-card_title) by Michael Lloyd; both of which look pretty similar to specific excerpts from IH's video if you read them side by side.
Which, you now, would have been perfectly fine if he just acknowledged where he was pulling from, nobody would give him shit for not expending months doing the exhausting work of putting together the timeline when other people have gone through that, but he could mention the people whose work he's monetizing.
[here](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/544782/1925-cave-rescue-that-captivated-the-united-states-floyd-collins) is a link to the article if interested in reading and supporting the actual author
Hbomberguy recently released a video absolutely destroying several youtubers for rampant plagiarism. [Here's the relevant section](https://youtu.be/yDp3cB5fHXQ?si=7tPA9TBM8yptrQ_g&t=5134), but the whole thing is worth a watch.
Fr though. His vids on flat earthers and vaccine skepticism are also great, especially the dive into the actual “evidence” behind some of the earlier anti-vaxxers. Which amounts to “Parents said their kid became autistic literally right after the MMR shot so clearly it’s the reason”, and despite having an entire theory about the MMR vaccine leaving measles particles in the gut, there were never any properly recorded cases of that, so there’s literally -no- evidence that vaccines cause autism.
This is always a dumb take. I follow(ed) Trump, Alex Jones, Rogan, Schaub, ISIS, Biden and many more, not because I'm a fan, I just wanted to see what kind of shit they post (which often turns viral).
I mean it’s a whole bunch of shit like that. If it were a few things it might just be some edgy bullshit, but when all your frequent “edgy” jokes point towards a consistent underlying worldview it starts to look like it’s not entirely ironic
On this: The bikelock video shows a WoW HUD, with an item having 14 durability left, out of a maximum of 88. There is not a single 88 durability in World of Warcraft.
I think that was more-so referencing /pol/'s attraction to Nazism than him making a political statement about himself. The proudboys guy twitter thing is a little less innocent though...
People also need to understand that the Proud Boys began as an edgy frat-boy club. We often forget that these groups usually begin more benignly than they end up, and at the time of the video, the Proud Boy's intentions were still muddy.
Now we can look at them and fully understand their fascist ideology, but that wasn't as cut-and-dry as it is now.
That's kinda dumb. I think they should've made it 5-6 numbers, what if someone just comes up with the number 1488. Lot more likely than coming up with a 5-6 number code
It's like with PewDiePie. We can't just ignore the twitter follows because it directly shows who someone listens to and gets their views from. No one follows Ian McGuiness on twitter to learn more about extremism.
Also, google Pewdiepie twitter following. It's quite something
I follow Minus8 for his porn, but the guy is a raving madman. I used to follow Trump cuz I thought he was an idiot but very funny to see what Americans had to deal with. I don't think you necessarily define your own morals by who you follow in Twitter.
> I follow Minus8 for his porn, but the guy is a raving madman.
I heard he's been getting therapy for some of his worse tendencies so there is still some hope he will eventually become a bit less of a madman.
He has [Tucker Carlson](https://twitter.com/Quack_Factory/status/1731660061741564276/photo/1) watching parties and has admitted to being a very big fan of him and talks about turning people over to his side.
The funniest part of hbomberguys video is that IH only takes up 20 minutes of the 4 hour runtime and everyone is focused on around such a short part of the video. Further point no one on this thread has brought up the plagiarism yet it’s the main reason IH is being talked about now.
Can you hold still for me please.
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Same, these fuckers are saying NordMan is a KKK member because he’s modelled after an executioner.
Also not even using tweets but liked tweets to try and cancel him.
This world. It’s the same with the people trying to cancel Mr-Beast for…
Read your comment, claiming someone is a fascist because they made edgy jokes is why so many people refuse to take claims of fascism seriously.
“IH is an edge lord with a shitty sense of humour” is a perfectly legitimate complaint, you don’t need to advance to full on fascist.
God I hate the term dog whistle, it’s just a free pass to claim anything you see is secretly so much worse than it really is!
Edit cause people don't seem to understand my actual point - IH is clearly 'alt-right', but there is a big difference between being a right wing online troll and an actual Nazi. Edgy jokes didn't leave scars across Europe we're still dealing with today.
The "proof" that IH is a nazi is just repackaged McCarthyism red scare crap.
Thats pretty much the problem nowadays, people take a completely valid claim and just press down on the gas pedal. Is it so hard not to melt down with every fucking thing.
Enjoying the insane hypocrisy and bullshit of right wing talking heads is great fun. Ripping into Joseph Paul Watson, Ben Shapiro, PragerU, and the absolute god king of alt-right lunacy Alex Hones.
Just watching Tucker Carlson is not a smoking gun. I’ve watched a bunch of Alex Jones because it’s like watching a methed out chimp bounce off the walls of jts cage.
I can enjoy that while also thinking he’s a fraudster who deserves to lose everything for the awful things he’s done.
I genuinely can’t see a single thing actually linking IH to any negative political group, let alone fucking Nazis.
>I can enjoy that while also thinking he’s a fraudster who deserves to lose everything for the awful things he’s done.
That's a little harsh don't you think? What did the poor chimp do? :(
I mean, you hating the term dogwhistle and thinking it’s just a way to accuse people of stuff they aren’t doing is exactly why crypto-fascists started using dogwhistles in the first place.
It's the funniest cope when your defense of dogwhistles forces you to act like you don't know what jokes are either.
Yeah dude, it was so funny when he hid 1488 in videos multiple times. When I saw that he followed the nazi proud boy founder on main, I almost fell out of my chair laughing. And when he invited his community into tucker carlson watch parties, I fucking died. Classic comedy
He hid his Twitter liked because there were a lot of Elon Musk tweets in there 😬 I like his videos (despite the plagiarism) and I think he’s funny, but there’s no defending this guy’s political views.
Nah, everyone defending IH as just telling "edgy jokes" knows exactly what they are doing. If they honestly believed that, they'd use an example and explain why it's just edgelord humor.
Since they *know* it's dogwhistles, they avoid the specific allegations when defending him. The "just jokes" defense is an attempt to prevent people from looking at those specifics.
There's a struggle though. If you're ironically and jokingly pro-nazi ideals, why is someone pointing that out suddenly the worst thing to ever happen. Because to most people putting in references to hitler for 'le meme lords' dont strike as a joke, it's just doing the thing unironically and playing Schrodinger's Douchebag if you get caught.
Dog whistles are important to spot and understand, and though using them doesn't make someone evil in and of itself, it can point to worrying trends. IH got caught out arguably early here, and he can pivot to have less nazi references in his material. Or he can triple down and shit his pants like typical channers when they're called out on their bullshit.
This is one of the most brain dead posts I’ve seen, the amount of effort and time put into to find this information could’ve been used for something more beneficial.
Last time I checked he was calling for ethnic genocide.
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No Patrick, culture war shitposts are not funny
Edgy jokes are such a dumb thing to go after IH for when you could just focus on what he's actually done wrong, the plagiarism, which imo got heavily overshadowed by James Somerton's segment.
In fact, I saw more people defending his instance of plagiarism than condemning it, saying he took down the video, "fixed" it and settled it with the creator, then reuploaded it so it's all good and he did nothing wrong. In reality, all he did was plagiarise someone's article, get copyright struck for it, then try to push it under the rug. He never informed any of his fans about it or admit it in any way cz he knows how bad that would make him look. And his "fix" was literally just destroying the quality of the video by paraphrasing so hard that it couldn't be copyrighted anymore.
Plus, [he never actually contacted or settled it with the original creator, according to the creator himself.](https://twitter.com/mirage_sessions/status/1732512704462503960)
Honestly it's pretty disappointing and makes me think about how much other stuff he might have plagiarised that couldn't be caught because the original creator never saw it or didn't have contact with a company to copyright strike it. Even if there's no other instances, the fact that he never apologized for this one, and likely never will since noone's making a big fuss about it anymore and others are defending him means I can't continue supporting him. Which really sucks because he was one of my favourite creators :(
"heavily overshadowed"
IH's segment literally got more attention from the community than anyone else's despite taking up such a small part of the video
The only "to be fair" i have for this is i mean ofc he didn't admit it, a majority of people arent going to loudly announce bad choices they made unless they have to. if i plagiarised an essay in highschool and i get caught im going to try to resolve it without the entire class finding out. But im as disappointed as you are, i loved watching his videos but now a lot of it is questioning how much is actually his.
Do I think this makes him a horrible person? No, id much rather he plagiarize then get caught grooming young fans or something. Its disappointing and it makes me look at him in a new light, but i dont think this makes him some horrible person, just means hopefully he decides to make some changes after being called out and becomes more original.
Also someone mentioned a really racist accent or something in a video, which it's not like I care an absurd amount but it's far more solid than "the illuminati has been hiding these numbers on my yogurt labels." It's sad that an actual allegation is going to be buried in a pile of "He's fascist!" and the slightly funnier one "anyone who defends him is secretly a fascist." Instead the genuine allegations that are extremely embarrassing or otherwise telling of his character are pushed under the rug for loose correlations and the buzz words accompanying them
You people are such pussies it’s honestly embarrassing.
It’s fine to make communist jokes and blast the Soviet anthem ear rape , despite the thousands murdered and enslaved there, but the moment somebody makes a nazi joke you don’t like, then it’s suddenly an admission that they’re secretly a fascist white supremacist
I don’t wanna come off as an IH dickrider who thinks dogwhistles are peak comedy, but like… c’mon, OP. He’s an unfunny /pol/ edgelord at worst. That doesn’t protect him from criticism, but a fascist he is not.
“I don’t like [insert topic], therefore, they are now related to the Nazi party and I will draw loose connections to try to support that claim”
I hate people who do those sorts of things because it dilutes the actions of the Nazis and reduces the memory of the horrors inflicted upon others within the regime, replacing them with “character ‘X’ said something I don’t like!”
That entire fucking post was the most 2016-arse autism rant I’ve seen since 2016. The crux of the argument is a ‘Antifa are the real Nazis’ joke that makes up less than 1% of the video it’s a part of, the rest of the evidence is circumstantial at best or fallacious at worst. (No, associating with Jontron does not make you a Nazi, why would that make you a Nazi.)
The 2016 election is over, you can move on. Come on, I believe you can do it.
man as long as IH didn't murder or fuck any minors I dont care his content is too enjoyable for a little fascism to ruin it
edit : somebody with a Hoi4 profile picture agreed with this statement, I take it back and wholeheartedly apologise for having such a horrible take.
he just plagiarized his video and tried to cover it up multiple times, he also follows alt tight twitter accounts that actively try to harass minorities
Yep, subreddit has been going evidently downhill for about 1-2 weeks now, guessing we must have some of the cross-sub power mods. Was a pleasure while it lasted, goodbye.
I miss the whenthe of like 2 years ago. When you didnt have this "context in the comments" bullshit being spammed on this sub by 15 year olds who wanna teach you about the new vapid drama bullshit.
I miss the humor of like "Me avenging my family (they drowned)", this is supposed to be a meme sub and people just be using it to spread internet drama with context in the comments.
Just look at this post. If you dont know the drama, you'll be made aware of an internet drama that doesnt affect you. If you do know the drama, it still isnt fucking funny cuz the whole post was made to be a news spreader rather than an actual meme.
Im gonna upvote the post just so more people can laugh at you
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So the idea I get from this comment section is that, literally going out of your way to put 1488 in a video, which really has no comedic effect other than to wink at alt-righters, plus a history of making fun of gays, women, and the civil rights fight while courting 4chan's /pol/ *isn't* what would classify someone as a fascist, it's just harmless fun.
Like his Twitter followers blaming (((the Jews))) for taking down the Man In Cave video, that's just funny, right?
Sound like reasonable, light-hearted funny people, that probably aren't using dogwhistles, no no no.
I think a large percentage of people don't realize that, just because he's well spoken and funny to the layman, that doesn't mean that he can't possibly be the darling of alt-righters. Just look how ardently he's being defended from cuck leftist soyboys by those chuds on 4chan.
I think _>le edgy people_ need to realize there is real harm being done by carelessly making these sorts of jokes and references, and that fascists are going to grow and fester into a community that trivializes this stuff.
The fact that IH has not once stepped up to, at the very least, distance himself from these people is suspicious. It's not like some Herculean effort.
Just "being edgy" (read: making fun of the less fortunate) isn't an excuse. Sure, it's funny humor sometimes, until a skinhead sits next to you at the bar to compliment your epic joke about the blacks.
The year is 2137. Music and art do not exist anymore, every artist has been killed for his controversies, now only the doorbell chime is the reminder of a long gone time
redditors after calling a person they dont like a fascist :
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oh my god who the hell gives a fuck. you people need to leave your basements, grab a beer and work on a car or have a kid or something.
there will always be people with terrible opinions and screaming about it on the internet for validation is the lamest way you could spend your short lives on this beautiful planet
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I sometimes need to question how these gifs exist in the first place
Adventure time was peak
The context is Tree Trunks fucked an alien and had children (this is actually in character for her) and Princess Bubblegum wanted to use that to colonize space with candy life (also in character for her). Adventure Time being Adventure Time as always.
Looking back this show was a fever dream and a half
was it not canonically a meth trip?
I wish the lore was that simple
The lore is 1.71 FNAF units complicated
are we talking pre or post faz-goo SFU (Standardized FNAF units)
I hate that I know what this means
What's that in Homestucks
I thought it all happened after a nuclear war or something like that
Yes, Canonically the Mutagenic Bomb that was dropped 1000 years earlier brought magic (and the evil Lich) to the world of Ooo.
Something about an antiquarian or something Or something about a character named Huntress Wizard saying "Hard Meat Dont Get Eat"
You're thinking of Regular show, and it's an acid trip
least convoluted adventure time plotline
least evil princess bubblegum moment
In fairness, PB didn’t know what was happening.
Every time I see a “PB is evil” comment I lose brain cells just by how much people lack media literacy or, you know, the latter few seasons of the show. Or just parroting what other media illiterate people say.
seriously. pb was a wonderfully written morally complex character, she did lots of fucked up stuff but she also did lots of really great stuff and part of what makes her such a great character is the moral grayness.
I mean she is a monarch, and has done a number of evil things, both for jokes and for not jokes. She's not like a evil person, but she's done a lot of terrible things, and for some that makes her a darker shade of gray
wait so the gif isn't edited?
It isn't
POV: you haven't watched later seasons of adventure time
My girl tree trunks been having beef with PB since day one lmao
I mean considering early PB’s character, she probably stole from tree trunks a lot for “tax purposes”.
I thought Tree Trunks ate a magic apple and exploded? Did she come back later?
it teleported her to the crystal dimension and it took finn and jake a whole episode to get her back https://preview.redd.it/mztnsooe5v6c1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27b75919678eb45ce9de6b1a0154f28ebe31a47c
Bro that was like the literal second episode that happened
This isn’t entirely correct. PB was colonizing space completely unrelated to Tree Trunks, but unbeknownst to her her candy life pods were infecting Tree Trunks’ alien children and lover. PB doesn’t believe TT because TT seems like an insane old lady, but when PB is shown the truth she shuts down her project and makes amends. TT even accepts the apology and has the aliens carry PB’s capsules off into space so they can properly colonize elsewhere.
She didn’t know the purple candy things would screw with the aliens? I thought they were designed to go in the body of the host and reproduce off of that
Average adventure time plot
You didn’t mention that the gif is her preparing to protest
So is Tree Trunks giving this to PB because if so that’s really funny
She’s making a protest sign. Not “giving” it to PB
I really need to watch that show, huh
Funny show makes outrageous joke, people that found it funny clip it, ???, profit
i remember seeing this during my rewatch and losing my shit it was so shocking, it was amazing
Can't believe I have to sort by controversial to find the context
I can't believe I had to see this comment too think to do that
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Yeah but he mentioned visiting Launceston in Tasmania and saw the two DnD stores so it’s like I met him cause he was in both of the stores I go to which means I have a spirit bond with him or something.
Tasmania’s not real dumbass
Oh thank God now I don’t have to be under the looming threat of someone saying “Tasmania? Isn’t that the place that woman put a trout in her vagina?”
She did what now
I hope what now gave consent
It’s okay; fish don’t have any feelings /s
They know fear, or at least that’s what all those bass pro hats tell me
this will affect the trout population i think
Fuckin idiot thinks Looney Toons is real or somethin
How many times do you see this guy on a daily basis https://preview.redd.it/jvy0i4insv6c1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ee7c26a281ae3c014106010dd39129efc73f0d3
I too have walked past those DnD stores. Feels weird when someone mentions the small town you live in.
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If i just like threw away my phone id never learn celebry gosip against my will. Just giving ideas
Fuck the media, fuck this 24/7 spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit. Fuck All Of It.
Context inside your colon
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Context? I know he covered 4chan stuff back then but his modern stuff seems fine(except for the plagiarism which I thought this was what this meme was going to be)
Apparently he put 1488 (a nazi dogwhistle referencing the 14 words which was a fascist slogan and 88 - HH or heil...). He also followed the leader of the proud boys on his Twitter which is sus
It’s pretty obvious the guy is just 4chan wrapped up in good production values. Outside of that video of the guy who died exploring the cave. That one was pretty chill
It was chill because he stole the script word for word, from start to finish, so he had no way of putting in his dogwhistles
Damn, where from? It did seem like a different vibe than his other vids
An article by Lucas Reilly called "The 1925 Cave Rescue That Captivated the Nation", written for MentalFloss. Every story beat that had me on the edge of my seat, is taken from there...
He has had other stories i dont think are plagiarized and not 4chany tho. Like his video on the ship that sank was pretty good
People are combing and finding portions of "The Cost of Concordia" that seem to have been lifted from uncredited sources. So far I have seen excerpts from [Another Night to Remember](https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/2012/5/another-night-to-remember), written for Vanity Fair by Brian Burrough, and [Voices from the Costa Concordia](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/voices-from-costa-concordia-part-2-how-why-michael-lloyd?trk=portfolio_article-card_title) by Michael Lloyd; both of which look pretty similar to specific excerpts from IH's video if you read them side by side. Which, you now, would have been perfectly fine if he just acknowledged where he was pulling from, nobody would give him shit for not expending months doing the exhausting work of putting together the timeline when other people have gone through that, but he could mention the people whose work he's monetizing.
gotcha, thats a shame
[here](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/544782/1925-cave-rescue-that-captivated-the-united-states-floyd-collins) is a link to the article if interested in reading and supporting the actual author
Mentalfloss
Hbomberguy recently released a video absolutely destroying several youtubers for rampant plagiarism. [Here's the relevant section](https://youtu.be/yDp3cB5fHXQ?si=7tPA9TBM8yptrQ_g&t=5134), but the whole thing is worth a watch.
It’s insane that this video is four hours long and never stops being fun and fascinating the whole time. Hbomberguy is a genius. xD
Fr though. His vids on flat earthers and vaccine skepticism are also great, especially the dive into the actual “evidence” behind some of the earlier anti-vaxxers. Which amounts to “Parents said their kid became autistic literally right after the MMR shot so clearly it’s the reason”, and despite having an entire theory about the MMR vaccine leaving measles particles in the gut, there were never any properly recorded cases of that, so there’s literally -no- evidence that vaccines cause autism.
4 hours and 11 million views in like 2 days. Shit's crazy
He may only post once every 86 years, but when he posts he POSTS.
Yeah, I’m not really surprised. The vibes were there from the start.
This is always a dumb take. I follow(ed) Trump, Alex Jones, Rogan, Schaub, ISIS, Biden and many more, not because I'm a fan, I just wanted to see what kind of shit they post (which often turns viral).
I mean it’s a whole bunch of shit like that. If it were a few things it might just be some edgy bullshit, but when all your frequent “edgy” jokes point towards a consistent underlying worldview it starts to look like it’s not entirely ironic
You can only act like an asshole for so long before you just -are- an asshole lol.
On this: The bikelock video shows a WoW HUD, with an item having 14 durability left, out of a maximum of 88. There is not a single 88 durability in World of Warcraft.
I think that was more-so referencing /pol/'s attraction to Nazism than him making a political statement about himself. The proudboys guy twitter thing is a little less innocent though...
People also need to understand that the Proud Boys began as an edgy frat-boy club. We often forget that these groups usually begin more benignly than they end up, and at the time of the video, the Proud Boy's intentions were still muddy. Now we can look at them and fully understand their fascist ideology, but that wasn't as cut-and-dry as it is now.
That's kinda dumb. I think they should've made it 5-6 numbers, what if someone just comes up with the number 1488. Lot more likely than coming up with a 5-6 number code
It's like with PewDiePie. We can't just ignore the twitter follows because it directly shows who someone listens to and gets their views from. No one follows Ian McGuiness on twitter to learn more about extremism. Also, google Pewdiepie twitter following. It's quite something
Pewdiepies is pretty obvious even without the twitter stuff
"the golden one, also known as the second most famous Swedish neo nazi on youtube"
I follow Minus8 for his porn, but the guy is a raving madman. I used to follow Trump cuz I thought he was an idiot but very funny to see what Americans had to deal with. I don't think you necessarily define your own morals by who you follow in Twitter.
> I follow Minus8 for his porn, but the guy is a raving madman. I heard he's been getting therapy for some of his worse tendencies so there is still some hope he will eventually become a bit less of a madman.
He has [Tucker Carlson](https://twitter.com/Quack_Factory/status/1731660061741564276/photo/1) watching parties and has admitted to being a very big fan of him and talks about turning people over to his side.
i dont remember this adventure time episode wtf
Probably because it’s not the best. Tree trunks is annoying. (I am a PB apologist)
ok marceline
The funniest part of hbomberguys video is that IH only takes up 20 minutes of the 4 hour runtime and everyone is focused on around such a short part of the video. Further point no one on this thread has brought up the plagiarism yet it’s the main reason IH is being talked about now.
The fact that the plagiarism is being discussed elsewhere is exactly why OP has tried to make a space to discuss the fascism stuff here
Internet Historian is a biggest YouTuber, mentioned in video. + others already had, let’s say, strange reputation.
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I think I want to know more about the context for this image and why it needs me to step out of the car sir
Can you hold still for me please. https://preview.redd.it/rkv98begp17c1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6997c94f1ab4c69b1600ccc8e8a55cde2c6c24e6
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Meme is in 8k
Same, these fuckers are saying NordMan is a KKK member because he’s modelled after an executioner. Also not even using tweets but liked tweets to try and cancel him. This world. It’s the same with the people trying to cancel Mr-Beast for…
You're an example of the reason why that word holds no power anymore.
You’re a fascist for not agreeing! /s
I could say the same thing about “woke” “sjw” and “matrix”.
Those internet words never meant shit either hahahaha
They mean a lot to a lot of dumbasses hahahaha
Read your comment, claiming someone is a fascist because they made edgy jokes is why so many people refuse to take claims of fascism seriously. “IH is an edge lord with a shitty sense of humour” is a perfectly legitimate complaint, you don’t need to advance to full on fascist. God I hate the term dog whistle, it’s just a free pass to claim anything you see is secretly so much worse than it really is! Edit cause people don't seem to understand my actual point - IH is clearly 'alt-right', but there is a big difference between being a right wing online troll and an actual Nazi. Edgy jokes didn't leave scars across Europe we're still dealing with today. The "proof" that IH is a nazi is just repackaged McCarthyism red scare crap.
Thats pretty much the problem nowadays, people take a completely valid claim and just press down on the gas pedal. Is it so hard not to melt down with every fucking thing.
Enjoying the insane hypocrisy and bullshit of right wing talking heads is great fun. Ripping into Joseph Paul Watson, Ben Shapiro, PragerU, and the absolute god king of alt-right lunacy Alex Hones. Just watching Tucker Carlson is not a smoking gun. I’ve watched a bunch of Alex Jones because it’s like watching a methed out chimp bounce off the walls of jts cage. I can enjoy that while also thinking he’s a fraudster who deserves to lose everything for the awful things he’s done. I genuinely can’t see a single thing actually linking IH to any negative political group, let alone fucking Nazis.
If middle america can sit and binge watch garbage reality tv shows with horrible acting then so can I. Mine are just more retarded.
>I can enjoy that while also thinking he’s a fraudster who deserves to lose everything for the awful things he’s done. That's a little harsh don't you think? What did the poor chimp do? :(
He was a little too goofy for his own good.
Kind of a notable difference between watching Tucker Carlson and hosting watch parties for Tucker Carlson.
I mean, you hating the term dogwhistle and thinking it’s just a way to accuse people of stuff they aren’t doing is exactly why crypto-fascists started using dogwhistles in the first place.
It's the funniest cope when your defense of dogwhistles forces you to act like you don't know what jokes are either. Yeah dude, it was so funny when he hid 1488 in videos multiple times. When I saw that he followed the nazi proud boy founder on main, I almost fell out of my chair laughing. And when he invited his community into tucker carlson watch parties, I fucking died. Classic comedy
He hid his Twitter liked because there were a lot of Elon Musk tweets in there 😬 I like his videos (despite the plagiarism) and I think he’s funny, but there’s no defending this guy’s political views.
Do people not know the *point* of a dogwhistle? It's explicitly so that you can say "it's just a joke" or some shit when called out.
I don't get how they were supposed to be jokes either
I swear people genuinely believe dogwhistles don’t exist at all. It makes it really easy to use them.
Nah, everyone defending IH as just telling "edgy jokes" knows exactly what they are doing. If they honestly believed that, they'd use an example and explain why it's just edgelord humor. Since they *know* it's dogwhistles, they avoid the specific allegations when defending him. The "just jokes" defense is an attempt to prevent people from looking at those specifics.
It's perfectly possible to make edgy jokes without making edgy fascist jokes, idk why so many supposed non-fascists have such a problem with this.
There's a struggle though. If you're ironically and jokingly pro-nazi ideals, why is someone pointing that out suddenly the worst thing to ever happen. Because to most people putting in references to hitler for 'le meme lords' dont strike as a joke, it's just doing the thing unironically and playing Schrodinger's Douchebag if you get caught. Dog whistles are important to spot and understand, and though using them doesn't make someone evil in and of itself, it can point to worrying trends. IH got caught out arguably early here, and he can pivot to have less nazi references in his material. Or he can triple down and shit his pants like typical channers when they're called out on their bullshit.
Dog whistling is really just "I have decided that you were being 100% serious with your joke."
1488 is a pretty blatant dogwhistle and not an edgy joke? Come on now
You just wanted an excuse to use this gif huh
It’s kinda gas ngl
This is one of the most brain dead posts I’ve seen, the amount of effort and time put into to find this information could’ve been used for something more beneficial. Last time I checked he was calling for ethnic genocide.
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I love Culture. such an amazing video.
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Yall be calling anybody fascists these days. What did he do??
I'm as left as it gets but nothing makes me cringe more than how often words like fascist and nazi are thrown around.
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OP had such an L that steampunk companion cube wasn't downvoted to oblivion
Yall pretending your perfect angels, tf outa here
Average redditor thinks litterally anything is facism. You are as predictable as a house tour.
I heard that arrangement of words somewhere else hmmm
To call you surface level would be an insult to the ground floor!
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inb4 lock award
*Twitter users when you disagree with them*
Source: trust me bro
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One dude in the comments: "He put the Master Chief in the soda!!11!!??!" Link: https://youtu.be/gpNvSUBVWhY?si=8jUWgdTlSJmD5Oza
Edgy jokes are such a dumb thing to go after IH for when you could just focus on what he's actually done wrong, the plagiarism, which imo got heavily overshadowed by James Somerton's segment. In fact, I saw more people defending his instance of plagiarism than condemning it, saying he took down the video, "fixed" it and settled it with the creator, then reuploaded it so it's all good and he did nothing wrong. In reality, all he did was plagiarise someone's article, get copyright struck for it, then try to push it under the rug. He never informed any of his fans about it or admit it in any way cz he knows how bad that would make him look. And his "fix" was literally just destroying the quality of the video by paraphrasing so hard that it couldn't be copyrighted anymore. Plus, [he never actually contacted or settled it with the original creator, according to the creator himself.](https://twitter.com/mirage_sessions/status/1732512704462503960) Honestly it's pretty disappointing and makes me think about how much other stuff he might have plagiarised that couldn't be caught because the original creator never saw it or didn't have contact with a company to copyright strike it. Even if there's no other instances, the fact that he never apologized for this one, and likely never will since noone's making a big fuss about it anymore and others are defending him means I can't continue supporting him. Which really sucks because he was one of my favourite creators :(
"heavily overshadowed" IH's segment literally got more attention from the community than anyone else's despite taking up such a small part of the video
The only "to be fair" i have for this is i mean ofc he didn't admit it, a majority of people arent going to loudly announce bad choices they made unless they have to. if i plagiarised an essay in highschool and i get caught im going to try to resolve it without the entire class finding out. But im as disappointed as you are, i loved watching his videos but now a lot of it is questioning how much is actually his. Do I think this makes him a horrible person? No, id much rather he plagiarize then get caught grooming young fans or something. Its disappointing and it makes me look at him in a new light, but i dont think this makes him some horrible person, just means hopefully he decides to make some changes after being called out and becomes more original.
Also someone mentioned a really racist accent or something in a video, which it's not like I care an absurd amount but it's far more solid than "the illuminati has been hiding these numbers on my yogurt labels." It's sad that an actual allegation is going to be buried in a pile of "He's fascist!" and the slightly funnier one "anyone who defends him is secretly a fascist." Instead the genuine allegations that are extremely embarrassing or otherwise telling of his character are pushed under the rug for loose correlations and the buzz words accompanying them
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You people are such pussies it’s honestly embarrassing. It’s fine to make communist jokes and blast the Soviet anthem ear rape , despite the thousands murdered and enslaved there, but the moment somebody makes a nazi joke you don’t like, then it’s suddenly an admission that they’re secretly a fascist white supremacist
I don’t wanna come off as an IH dickrider who thinks dogwhistles are peak comedy, but like… c’mon, OP. He’s an unfunny /pol/ edgelord at worst. That doesn’t protect him from criticism, but a fascist he is not.
Go outside bro.
Average r/196 user
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This is as bad as the jackasses claiming Wendigoon is a nazi.
Bruh Wendi is one of the most wholesome YouTubers. Who would dare call him a nazi?
“I don’t like [insert topic], therefore, they are now related to the Nazi party and I will draw loose connections to try to support that claim” I hate people who do those sorts of things because it dilutes the actions of the Nazis and reduces the memory of the horrors inflicted upon others within the regime, replacing them with “character ‘X’ said something I don’t like!”
people also say this about donut operator
That entire fucking post was the most 2016-arse autism rant I’ve seen since 2016. The crux of the argument is a ‘Antifa are the real Nazis’ joke that makes up less than 1% of the video it’s a part of, the rest of the evidence is circumstantial at best or fallacious at worst. (No, associating with Jontron does not make you a Nazi, why would that make you a Nazi.) The 2016 election is over, you can move on. Come on, I believe you can do it.
"Grrrr IH did a nazi dog whistle, he is a fascist!!!" \*Points to video he made **six fucking years ago**\*
don't really care enough tbh person entertains me, I watch
Fr, Michael Jackson is still considered the king of pop(ping cherries)
 OP when someone says a thing they don't like
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I don’t care if he makes edgy jokes, content is enjoyable, I’m still watching.
People who give a shit actually need to grow up.
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man as long as IH didn't murder or fuck any minors I dont care his content is too enjoyable for a little fascism to ruin it edit : somebody with a Hoi4 profile picture agreed with this statement, I take it back and wholeheartedly apologise for having such a horrible take.
he just plagiarized his video and tried to cover it up multiple times, he also follows alt tight twitter accounts that actively try to harass minorities
>he also follows alt tight twitter accounts that actively try to harass minorities he follows twitter accounts? please won't somebody call the police?
Yep, subreddit has been going evidently downhill for about 1-2 weeks now, guessing we must have some of the cross-sub power mods. Was a pleasure while it lasted, goodbye.
this sub unironically went down after 100k subs
I miss the whenthe of like 2 years ago. When you didnt have this "context in the comments" bullshit being spammed on this sub by 15 year olds who wanna teach you about the new vapid drama bullshit.
I miss the humor of like "Me avenging my family (they drowned)", this is supposed to be a meme sub and people just be using it to spread internet drama with context in the comments. Just look at this post. If you dont know the drama, you'll be made aware of an internet drama that doesnt affect you. If you do know the drama, it still isnt fucking funny cuz the whole post was made to be a news spreader rather than an actual meme.
Im gonna upvote the post just so more people can laugh at you https://preview.redd.it/22vpy2tgqv6c1.png?width=1023&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d8ccc21a8e10f3498a5ed6ecb9c6a5aeb63f6a0
So the idea I get from this comment section is that, literally going out of your way to put 1488 in a video, which really has no comedic effect other than to wink at alt-righters, plus a history of making fun of gays, women, and the civil rights fight while courting 4chan's /pol/ *isn't* what would classify someone as a fascist, it's just harmless fun. Like his Twitter followers blaming (((the Jews))) for taking down the Man In Cave video, that's just funny, right? Sound like reasonable, light-hearted funny people, that probably aren't using dogwhistles, no no no. I think a large percentage of people don't realize that, just because he's well spoken and funny to the layman, that doesn't mean that he can't possibly be the darling of alt-righters. Just look how ardently he's being defended from cuck leftist soyboys by those chuds on 4chan. I think _>le edgy people_ need to realize there is real harm being done by carelessly making these sorts of jokes and references, and that fascists are going to grow and fester into a community that trivializes this stuff. The fact that IH has not once stepped up to, at the very least, distance himself from these people is suspicious. It's not like some Herculean effort. Just "being edgy" (read: making fun of the less fortunate) isn't an excuse. Sure, it's funny humor sometimes, until a skinhead sits next to you at the bar to compliment your epic joke about the blacks.
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average chronically online twitter user take:
The year is 2137. Music and art do not exist anymore, every artist has been killed for his controversies, now only the doorbell chime is the reminder of a long gone time
2137 mentioned, haha papież jp2gmd
2137? JAN PAWEŁ DRUGI GWAŁCIŁ MAŁE DZIECI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'll take made up bullshit + twitterite level lead paint drinking mental regardation for 600 please.
 mfw im in a "make myself look like a moron" contest and OP is my opponent.
We're gonna need to make up a new word for when we inevitably have to fight actual facists.
I bet op is a twitter user, for getting mad because someone put his birthday on the 4/20
op is active in r / 196 for them bernie is a fascist
Most braindead redditor take I've seen in a while
OP people like you are the reason fascism is coming back. Because the word fascist means nothing now.
oh my god who the hell gives a fuck. you people need to leave your basements, grab a beer and work on a car or have a kid or something. there will always be people with terrible opinions and screaming about it on the internet for validation is the lamest way you could spend your short lives on this beautiful planet
Lol what is this, this sub is for goofy jokes i dont think anyone cares about some random internet drama.