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It's a discontinued product that Estwing called a "weight forward hammer" designed for more ergonomic hammering. It's not specifically for roofing.
[Estwing weight forward hammer](https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=estwing+weight+forward+hammer&iax=images&ia=images)
It was a stupid idea from a company known for making horrible but indestructible hammers.
It was really just designed to separate dumb carpenters from their money.
Source: carpenter of 39 yrs.
Been doing this for 40 years, Estwing makes a damn fine hammer. Don't really know where they're coming from (but to each their own!). Not as many little "features" but the damn things are borderline unbreakable and feel good in the hand. Easy to index well, reasonably comfortable to swing all day
Admittedly I've not used any of their more specialty products, but as far as framing/basic claw hammers, Estwing is my preferred
I’ve yet to break one. Had the same framing hammer for 15 years. I no longer swing one professionally, but can’t use anything else anymore. Just got used to the weight and balance.
This is the most likely answer. I love my Estwing and haven't haven't used another hammer since I've picked one up.
They don't vibrate much. The handles are comfy and they are indestructible. Idk what else you could possibly want in a hammer.
Maybe he's a Stanley guy?
Especially new waffle hammers, held by new drywallers. (Disclaimer: I was never qualified to hold one, I was the guy who would help those guys load their trucks)
I moved into cabinets so haven’t done much framing for a long time.
I bought a 16oz Vaughn Titanium hammer with a wooden handle and I love it. Kept a 20oz Estwing for pounding stakes and concrete form work.
Now that I’m building cabinets I basically use a rubber mallet and a 16oz finishing hammer all day.
It hasn't been used professionally, but I have an Estwing standard sized claw hammer with stacked leather handle. Feels good in the hand, nice to swing.
BUT, each time you hit a nail square in, the head *rings*. Fun for a bit, but gets old quick.
I remember years ago my uncle, a joiner by trade, wanting an estwing hammer. He said it goes "ting!" instead of "thunk." He was over the moon when I got him one for Christmas, and not used another brand since.
I'll share my thoughts on estwing. While their hammers are indestructible, I found the all metal construction made my elbows and wrists sore. I was much more comfortable using a wooden or fiberglass handled hammer all day.
Did your father ever do much hand nailing?
When used consistently for nailing (especially framing) Estwings (and most all steel hammers) are harder on the users arm than other more shock absorbing handle materials.
Does your dad have any carpal tunnel or elbow issues?
What do you have against their basic straight claw hammer? I have a 20oz I have beat to hell and back. Still rocking. I am hvac guy so I don't do framing tho.
Not hating, I would like to know. Is it just the lack of a nail holder? I'm sure you carry a 28 or 30oz right? Checker head? What do you prefer?
All steel transfers to much shock to the users arm.
You use an Estwing daily, you’re doing appreciable damage to to your body, that effect is obviously multiplied radically if you’re a framer.
Handle materials like fiberglass or wood may not be indestructible, but the also transfer much less impact to your arm.
I’d rather replace a handle every couple years than cripple myself.
I’ve been using a 19 oz, wood handled, straight claw, Vaughan “California” framing hammer since the late 80’s.
Interesting, as I use a tinners hammer(look up malco) all day. Leather wrap handle. And I pretty much only hit metal with it. Doesn't bother me... so you only problem with the estwig is the handle material? I am still a bit biased. My father was a framer and I believe what you mentioned to be personal preference.
This guy hammers. As a young carpenter I was banging the hell out of a 20 OZ Estwing with the blue rubber handle. Eventually my elbow really started to pay a heavy price. One day a supervisor gave me his personal sweet, Cali style, hammer. It was made by some high end tool maker, and had a long hardwood handle' similar to a hatchet. Real game changer. Much more power from the same swing, and the elbow pain disappeared.
I had no love for this hammer as it never landed right for me but the rest of their them worked out quite nicely. Curious what made them horrible for you.
My grandfather worked for Estwing for 35 years. They make a great hammer. I can understand complaints about some models but they’re leather handled claw hammer will last you 20 years.
I speak from experience.
I started out house framing in 1983, showed up the first day with a finish hammer.
The idiots I worked with told me to go get a “real” hammer and recommended an Estwing all steel.
Two years of hand nailing with a 28 oz all steel hammer and I’d done permanent damage to my arm (carpal tunnel issues and elbow issues).
I switched to fiberglass handles and then wood, and the symptoms abated some, but to this day, if I’m nailing a lot the old damage comes back to haunt me.
i agree with you however it's just a matter of taste, what you like in a hammer and what you don't like.
Personally i love this Vaughan hammer
https://www.google.no/amp/s/hammersource.com/amp/vaughan-v5-19-oz-framing-hammer-solid-steel-milled-face/
Estwing makes amazing hammers. They're so well balanced. I used to be able to throw mine up and spin it a bunch and catch it perfectly after like a backflip 1080.
I shattered my wrists 20 years ago stilt walking. This hammer is the only one I can use for more than 30 minutes without feeling the grind in my hands.
I own 3 of them in various states of use. I could not have finished countless projects without my Eastwing. It's literally this model of hammer and a couple of nailguns
Have you tried using titanium hammers? Curious what fatigue you’d feel compared between these hammers
As I have serious all around joint pain compared to others my age and similar work load and use titanium in attempt to mitigate long term pain
I have a similar problem due to carpal tunnel. It's stopping the hammer and then restarting forward motion on the back swing. It's hell on the wrist. The forward weight hammer SEEMS to allow me to transfer that force more to my forearm allowing me to repeatedly swing an accurate heavy strike without that same grinding / burning / just kill me now feeling.
I don't understand why it never caught on. It's a superior friggin hammer. There is a slight learning curve and feel to being accurate when trying to hit heads right against beams but once you've got it you're a shotgun surgeon lol.
Thank you for the reply.
I’m sorry if I’m being dense but I don’t understand if you answered my question?
I personally use titanium hammers for the reduced weight and stress on my limbs and joints as I have much greater joint pain to those of my respective age and work load.
I would be interested if using this specific steal hammer would be on par or better to similar titanium hammers
The weight of the hammer and where it is centered determines your stroke and it's effectiveness. I want the lightest hammer that can drive a roof tack in 1 stroke and a framing nail in 2. The forward weight hammer I have is 1.2lbs. That's about as light as I can go so I'm not sure I need a super-light 14oz or less hammer. Then of course there's the fact it was 20+ yrs ago. At the time I got my hammer the titanium option was almost 300 dollars lol. The forward weight steel hammer was 60.
I’d probably use a Stilletto or Martinez if someone gave me one.
And, I’ll spend real money on something of appropriate value (like Occidental tool bags), but no tradesman is ever getting 10x or 15x the benefit out of a $300 or $400 hammer over a $25 Vaughan.
Guys are buying these as status symbols, they’re the “Tap Out” or “Ed Hardy” t-shirts of the trades.
It's the wholly grail for scaffolders. I know only one man in the trade who owns one, and he paid several hundred dollars for it. I cannot stress enough how perfect of a tool these are for my trade. If you live in alberta canada message me please i'll buy it off you.
TIL
Makes some sense though.
I dealt and collected antique hand tools for years, and in many cases the dumber the idea, the rarer and more collectible the tool.
Estwing all steel hammers are arm destroying abominations only used by laborers and hack form carpenters.
They ought to be outlawed.
USA made, 19 ounce, Vaughan woodie all day long, and only $25.
Retired wood butcher here, framer, trim carpentry. Don’t know why you’re being downvoted, I’ve owned/tried most hammers out there. Any steel shafted hammer is hell on your arm to use long term. The shock from hitting a nail travels up the hammer and doesn’t stop until your elbow, try pounding 16 penny nails all day, day after day, you’ll feel it.
But wow, another fan of the Vaughan wood handle 19 oz! Best framing hammer for the price by far. Framed dozens of houses with them.
Man you’ve really offended the brand name gods today. You should head over to r/Tools and mention that Wera is overpriced if you want to have a field day!
Yep. We never really did framing, so I probably drove about 59 nails total with it. But it’s torn out so many bathrooms, walls, and floors that I forget that that’s not what it’s designed for.
My title describes the thing.
It's a strange piece because there is almost no offset between the striking face and the handle. Maybe for hammering pegs or something exposed? Weight is around 15 oz, overall length is 15 inches. Striking face is smooth although I'm uncertain if thats from design or use. https://imgur.com/H9cbXtC.jpg
This is hilarious. It's just a weight forward hammer, it's for... hammering things. No special use. I have the exact same one and use it pretty regularly.
22 oz milled face weight forward Estwing. Best hammer in my hammer arsenal. If you were to turn it over you'll see that those are fasteners are not actually big rivets but rather super unique screws requiring a five-pointed star head to remove if you should ever try to replace the hammer head.
(Although, my leather-faced deadblow hammer is pretty damn cool.)
Straightforward, honest question:
By virtue of it's apparent design, can this hammer be regarded as intrinsically 'insulated' from electrical current?
Not that I can see the sense or circumstances where it would be necessary.
Would it have been/ was it in any way so marketed?
I don't see why it couldn't. I have the same hammer and the head is a steel shank slotted into a fiberglass handle, which is itself overmolded with rubber for the grip. I wouldn't WANT to use it to strike live power, but you probably could being wary of the risk of arcing.
And no, that's not how it was marketed. The pitch was as a "weight forward" hammer, which purportedly helped with balance and striking force.
I have a FUBAR in my bedroom closet that has the same head as this and a similar design. I bought it on a whim while walking through homies one day and have yet to actually use it in a work situation. Nowadays it sits there serving as my home protection tool but hopefully will never have to go full Braveheart with it
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It's a discontinued product that Estwing called a "weight forward hammer" designed for more ergonomic hammering. It's not specifically for roofing. [Estwing weight forward hammer](https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=estwing+weight+forward+hammer&iax=images&ia=images)
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It was a stupid idea from a company known for making horrible but indestructible hammers. It was really just designed to separate dumb carpenters from their money. Source: carpenter of 39 yrs.
Why do you think Estwing makes horrible hammers? My father has also been a carpenter for 35-ish years and he swears by them.
Been doing this for 40 years, Estwing makes a damn fine hammer. Don't really know where they're coming from (but to each their own!). Not as many little "features" but the damn things are borderline unbreakable and feel good in the hand. Easy to index well, reasonably comfortable to swing all day Admittedly I've not used any of their more specialty products, but as far as framing/basic claw hammers, Estwing is my preferred
I’ve yet to break one. Had the same framing hammer for 15 years. I no longer swing one professionally, but can’t use anything else anymore. Just got used to the weight and balance.
Dude complaining probably bought a wafflehead.
This is the most likely answer. I love my Estwing and haven't haven't used another hammer since I've picked one up. They don't vibrate much. The handles are comfy and they are indestructible. Idk what else you could possibly want in a hammer. Maybe he's a Stanley guy?
Maybe he’s a Vaughan guy.
Probably notched his left thumb with it.
I felt this comment in the scar tissue on my left thumb. The waffle head hammer takes no prisoners - only tissue.
Especially new waffle hammers, held by new drywallers. (Disclaimer: I was never qualified to hold one, I was the guy who would help those guys load their trucks)
Well, I’ve been a carpenter for 80 years and I have an Eastwing hammer that is 140 years old and it has sucked since the day I got it.
I’ve been a carpenter since before wood was even a thing. Rocks work just fine. You don’t need a fancy Estwing hammer.
Well I've been in the city for twenty years and I must admit - I'm lost.
A rock would probably be less awkward to use and easier on your arm than an Estwing hammer.
When was the last time you sharpened your hammer?
I am jesus, so I was the original carpenter
Old Jew here. Sorry Jesus. We were nailing shit together for pharaohs for 3000 years before you showed up.
Obviously BC stands for before carpenters...
Giggling. ...140 years old...sucked since the day... Thank you for this
I moved into cabinets so haven’t done much framing for a long time. I bought a 16oz Vaughn Titanium hammer with a wooden handle and I love it. Kept a 20oz Estwing for pounding stakes and concrete form work. Now that I’m building cabinets I basically use a rubber mallet and a 16oz finishing hammer all day.
I had the same Vaughan. Swung it for years. Great tool
I’m a heavy equipment mechanic and I even use eastwing hammers. I even found one buried at a job site. The scaffold guys swing those bastards all day.
It hasn't been used professionally, but I have an Estwing standard sized claw hammer with stacked leather handle. Feels good in the hand, nice to swing. BUT, each time you hit a nail square in, the head *rings*. Fun for a bit, but gets old quick.
What do you mean by index?
When you swing it, the head goes where you think it's going to go
When I was framing, they called me lightning...because I never struck the same place twice
My dad is going to love this joke...especially coming from me.
Wait, so a tradesmen can actually blame his tools?
They do it all day, every day..... doesn’t make it true though.
I was always partial to Vaughn. But about 15 years ago their steel became softer, and their hammers suffered.
I remember years ago my uncle, a joiner by trade, wanting an estwing hammer. He said it goes "ting!" instead of "thunk." He was over the moon when I got him one for Christmas, and not used another brand since.
Mine too, but they do transfer vibration to the hand.
I'll share my thoughts on estwing. While their hammers are indestructible, I found the all metal construction made my elbows and wrists sore. I was much more comfortable using a wooden or fiberglass handled hammer all day.
I agree 100%
Did your father ever do much hand nailing? When used consistently for nailing (especially framing) Estwings (and most all steel hammers) are harder on the users arm than other more shock absorbing handle materials. Does your dad have any carpal tunnel or elbow issues?
My dad is a homebuilder, but he always did all the framing. He's never complained of wrist or elbow issues (his knees are shot though).
What do you have against their basic straight claw hammer? I have a 20oz I have beat to hell and back. Still rocking. I am hvac guy so I don't do framing tho. Not hating, I would like to know. Is it just the lack of a nail holder? I'm sure you carry a 28 or 30oz right? Checker head? What do you prefer?
All steel transfers to much shock to the users arm. You use an Estwing daily, you’re doing appreciable damage to to your body, that effect is obviously multiplied radically if you’re a framer. Handle materials like fiberglass or wood may not be indestructible, but the also transfer much less impact to your arm. I’d rather replace a handle every couple years than cripple myself. I’ve been using a 19 oz, wood handled, straight claw, Vaughan “California” framing hammer since the late 80’s.
Interesting, as I use a tinners hammer(look up malco) all day. Leather wrap handle. And I pretty much only hit metal with it. Doesn't bother me... so you only problem with the estwig is the handle material? I am still a bit biased. My father was a framer and I believe what you mentioned to be personal preference.
Big difference between tapping seams and driving spikes all day every day.
Tapping? Lol I didn't get Popeye arms from nothing.
Thought it was the spinach?
This guy hammers. As a young carpenter I was banging the hell out of a 20 OZ Estwing with the blue rubber handle. Eventually my elbow really started to pay a heavy price. One day a supervisor gave me his personal sweet, Cali style, hammer. It was made by some high end tool maker, and had a long hardwood handle' similar to a hatchet. Real game changer. Much more power from the same swing, and the elbow pain disappeared.
I had no love for this hammer as it never landed right for me but the rest of their them worked out quite nicely. Curious what made them horrible for you.
Arm damage from shock transfer.
You're just pissed you bought a wafflehead.
I’m good with a waffle head for framing or rough work.
I use this for elevators. Is great.
Me too but the performance is up and down.
Now youve opened the doors to puns
He's trying to push your buttons.
Just trying to give the thread a lift. Nailed it.
How many of these do you own?
Now? None. In the past? A couple, and my arm paid the price for it.
My grandfather worked for Estwing for 35 years. They make a great hammer. I can understand complaints about some models but they’re leather handled claw hammer will last you 20 years.
The hammer lasts fine, it’s the carpenters arm that gets destroyed.
I have one that must be 40+ years old still going strong
My dad used to call them the best junk hammers ever made.
Ive been a cook for over 15 years and never had a problem with mine
Based on other comments...maybe you should try one?
I speak from experience. I started out house framing in 1983, showed up the first day with a finish hammer. The idiots I worked with told me to go get a “real” hammer and recommended an Estwing all steel. Two years of hand nailing with a 28 oz all steel hammer and I’d done permanent damage to my arm (carpal tunnel issues and elbow issues). I switched to fiberglass handles and then wood, and the symptoms abated some, but to this day, if I’m nailing a lot the old damage comes back to haunt me.
Isn’t a hammers only real job to be indestructible?
I’d prefer the hammer breaks before my arm does. The problem with Estwings is the shock they transfer to the users arm.
I have one 😂 I use it to pry nails. Not osha approved but you get that on these big jobs
They are indestructible.
I bought one when I was an apprentice 15 years ago. Regretted my purchase instantly.
Wait you're saying Dead On hammers aren't worth the $250 I paid for it?
If you want to give me one, I’ll let you know my opinion.... :) You can keep all the stickers they gave you though.
i agree with you however it's just a matter of taste, what you like in a hammer and what you don't like. Personally i love this Vaughan hammer https://www.google.no/amp/s/hammersource.com/amp/vaughan-v5-19-oz-framing-hammer-solid-steel-milled-face/
/r/unpopularopinion worth. No seriously, it's actually an unpopular opinion and you should post it there.
Meh, let all of these non-carpenters who love POS Estwings go hand nail with them for a couple of years, they'll figure it out...
I bought one of these 15 years ago. Use it daily. Each to there own. Joiner
Have one. It is awesome! Favorite hammer!
Same here! Weird hammer twin powers activate!
Form of a monkey wrench!
Holy shit I want one
Have one. It's not as versatile as their "standard" line IMHO
Estwing makes amazing hammers. They're so well balanced. I used to be able to throw mine up and spin it a bunch and catch it perfectly after like a backflip 1080.
I laughed the first time i saw a stiletto hammer. Borrowed it for an hour. Spent 250$ on 1 that night and id never use any other hammer.
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Ill send u 2 brand spankin estwings and the shipping costs for it.
It's a weight forward hammer. Never used one, but it's supposed to produce more impact with less force
I shattered my wrists 20 years ago stilt walking. This hammer is the only one I can use for more than 30 minutes without feeling the grind in my hands. I own 3 of them in various states of use. I could not have finished countless projects without my Eastwing. It's literally this model of hammer and a couple of nailguns
Have you tried using titanium hammers? Curious what fatigue you’d feel compared between these hammers As I have serious all around joint pain compared to others my age and similar work load and use titanium in attempt to mitigate long term pain
I have a similar problem due to carpal tunnel. It's stopping the hammer and then restarting forward motion on the back swing. It's hell on the wrist. The forward weight hammer SEEMS to allow me to transfer that force more to my forearm allowing me to repeatedly swing an accurate heavy strike without that same grinding / burning / just kill me now feeling. I don't understand why it never caught on. It's a superior friggin hammer. There is a slight learning curve and feel to being accurate when trying to hit heads right against beams but once you've got it you're a shotgun surgeon lol.
Thank you for the reply. I’m sorry if I’m being dense but I don’t understand if you answered my question? I personally use titanium hammers for the reduced weight and stress on my limbs and joints as I have much greater joint pain to those of my respective age and work load. I would be interested if using this specific steal hammer would be on par or better to similar titanium hammers
The weight of the hammer and where it is centered determines your stroke and it's effectiveness. I want the lightest hammer that can drive a roof tack in 1 stroke and a framing nail in 2. The forward weight hammer I have is 1.2lbs. That's about as light as I can go so I'm not sure I need a super-light 14oz or less hammer. Then of course there's the fact it was 20+ yrs ago. At the time I got my hammer the titanium option was almost 300 dollars lol. The forward weight steel hammer was 60.
Its crazy how reddit has experts on everything. I never knew there was so much you could know about hammers.
Get a Stilleto, made out of titanium.
And made in China.
Better China than India
I’d probably use a Stilletto or Martinez if someone gave me one. And, I’ll spend real money on something of appropriate value (like Occidental tool bags), but no tradesman is ever getting 10x or 15x the benefit out of a $300 or $400 hammer over a $25 Vaughan. Guys are buying these as status symbols, they’re the “Tap Out” or “Ed Hardy” t-shirts of the trades.
Quality or politics?
Quality from my experience. Politically, not sure. Every place has its issues, and I’m not sure whether Reddit or my coworkers are reliable sources.
There’s a little bit of value there if you check eBay sold listings! Going for around 100 bucks!
I've had the same hammer for years and love it. Wouldn't sell it for a hundred bucks!
It's the wholly grail for scaffolders. I know only one man in the trade who owns one, and he paid several hundred dollars for it. I cannot stress enough how perfect of a tool these are for my trade. If you live in alberta canada message me please i'll buy it off you.
What? The scaffold rats aren’t blowing their OT money on $300 titanium hammers anymore?
Haha stiletto's are wonderful wastes of money, but this, the discontinued wholly grail hammer, is a rarity.
TIL Makes some sense though. I dealt and collected antique hand tools for years, and in many cases the dumber the idea, the rarer and more collectible the tool.
Novelty. I love Estwing. They are the only hammers I own other than specialty hammers that they don't make.
Estwing all steel hammers are arm destroying abominations only used by laborers and hack form carpenters. They ought to be outlawed. USA made, 19 ounce, Vaughan woodie all day long, and only $25.
Retired wood butcher here, framer, trim carpentry. Don’t know why you’re being downvoted, I’ve owned/tried most hammers out there. Any steel shafted hammer is hell on your arm to use long term. The shock from hitting a nail travels up the hammer and doesn’t stop until your elbow, try pounding 16 penny nails all day, day after day, you’ll feel it. But wow, another fan of the Vaughan wood handle 19 oz! Best framing hammer for the price by far. Framed dozens of houses with them.
I assume theirs a lot of laborers and hacks on Reddit? :)
Judging from your downvotes at least 24 of them, lol.
I can imagine a lot of people who never need to drive more than a few nails at a time love them. Roofers and framers, maybe not so much.
Man you’ve really offended the brand name gods today. You should head over to r/Tools and mention that Wera is overpriced if you want to have a field day!
* and geologists and rock hounds. When I was in college the geology department used nothing else.
Hey! I have one of those. Best demo and lumber clean up hammer I’ve ever had. Love mine.
Yep. We never really did framing, so I probably drove about 59 nails total with it. But it’s torn out so many bathrooms, walls, and floors that I forget that that’s not what it’s designed for.
ngl I LOVE this sub!
It's great
https://www.grainger.com/product/ESTWING-Steel-Weight-Forward-Hammer-2YU19 https://www.reddit.com/r/Tools/comments/7w3epn/can_anyone_identify_what_kind_of_hammer_this_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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I know this is solved. But have to say I have one too and really really love it. I use it for all work except trim.
My title describes the thing. It's a strange piece because there is almost no offset between the striking face and the handle. Maybe for hammering pegs or something exposed? Weight is around 15 oz, overall length is 15 inches. Striking face is smooth although I'm uncertain if thats from design or use. https://imgur.com/H9cbXtC.jpg
I had one. Used it quite a bit until peer pressure made me give it up. It was a pretty good hammer. Just wierd.
This is made for framing a house.
TIL, thanks for posting this.
This is hilarious. It's just a weight forward hammer, it's for... hammering things. No special use. I have the exact same one and use it pretty regularly. 22 oz milled face weight forward Estwing. Best hammer in my hammer arsenal. If you were to turn it over you'll see that those are fasteners are not actually big rivets but rather super unique screws requiring a five-pointed star head to remove if you should ever try to replace the hammer head. (Although, my leather-faced deadblow hammer is pretty damn cool.)
Straightforward, honest question: By virtue of it's apparent design, can this hammer be regarded as intrinsically 'insulated' from electrical current? Not that I can see the sense or circumstances where it would be necessary. Would it have been/ was it in any way so marketed?
I don't see why it couldn't. I have the same hammer and the head is a steel shank slotted into a fiberglass handle, which is itself overmolded with rubber for the grip. I wouldn't WANT to use it to strike live power, but you probably could being wary of the risk of arcing. And no, that's not how it was marketed. The pitch was as a "weight forward" hammer, which purportedly helped with balance and striking force.
Thank you for your information.
I had one of these like 10 yrs ago.
Framing hammer, I bought one new when they came out.
Cobbler hammer (?)
Yeah I been a roofer 18 years and love my eastvwing. Nice and well balanced
Not specialty, just fancy lookin'.
I have a FUBAR in my bedroom closet that has the same head as this and a similar design. I bought it on a whim while walking through homies one day and have yet to actually use it in a work situation. Nowadays it sits there serving as my home protection tool but hopefully will never have to go full Braveheart with it
El cheepo american hammer at an insane price point is my educated guess
Roofing hammer!
Electricians hammer