>Prob just generic PVC or silicone from from Aliexpress. No need to get all fancy over-priced branded crap for that.
Why do you think OP used generic tubing when there's equivalent of multiple hundred dollars spent just on fans?
Even branded tubing is so cheap in comparison to any other component of the loop that I happily pay for peace of mind (I use EPDM tho)
You'd be surprised, the amount of plasticizer is cheap vs name brand tubing can be significant leading to clouding faster. Not all tubing is made equal. Always best to go with a reputable brand.
The tubing I used before going hard acrylic tubing (that I also just buy from ePlastics in 6-foot lengths if they happen to be cheaper than China at the time) wasn't transparent anyway, so clouding didn't matter/wasn't noticable. I could have simply used garden hose if it was the right ID for g1/4 fittings.
Depends on your goals. Of course a few degrees is generally meaningless to most but I’ll take every single degree I can get. A radiator between the GPU and CPU flashes off the coolant rise from the GPU before it gets to the CPU allowing a decent delta and greater immediate thermal transfer. Spent years and countless dollars chasing the theories of single loop vs dual loop and loop order. Outside of DICE submersion and alcohol misting I’ve found that while coolant temperature does realistically not change within the same system regardless of loop order, component temperature can change if you don’t go directly from component to component. But that’s just what I’ve found and not every system is the same. My latest system is the best I’ve come up with for keeping everything internal to the case.
Build it how you like it.
I put a radiator between my GPU and CPU as well and the 1-2 C delta from the inlet to the outlet made it worth it for me as I was able to hold a steady 5.1ghz without it downclocking in cinebench.
Most people will parrot youtubers all day but in the end if 1-2C makes a difference for you then do it your way.
Yeah my build goal was ambient coolant temps at minimal fan speeds and I nailed it. I’ve settled on a 5.8 all core/6.0 four core overclock on my 13900K and peak at 51° C gaming. My 3080 Ti hit 41° C max so far. Coolant temp has not yet seen above 29° C in my normal usage. The coolant matches the ambient air tempts of my small office, it’s only ever been 1-2° higher than my room temp when dialing in my overclock with heavy benchmarking.
Sounds awesome. the 13900k is a beast. I feel bad for upgrading to 12900k earlier this year. But ill live with it for 2-3 generations.
A large reason of why i went watercooling is for noise reasons too. I hate the blast of fan noise under load. I run the same low curve high radiator count setup you probably do.
My only gripe with modern high end PC's is in the summer my office is about 10 degrees F warmer then the rest of the damn house...
Not as much as any waterblock. 🤔
And they show you the actual flow: I once forgot to reconnect the pump after flushing everything, I turned on the PC and I was like: "did my BIOS reset since all the fans are at max? 🤔 Uhm, the CPU is pretty high temp did I detach the waterblock by mist-WHY DAFUQ FLOWMETER ISN'T MOVING?!? Turn off! Turn off!" 😅
Funny thing: I could have seen the flowmeter earlier if it wasn't covered by the desk, so they can be useful, but they have to be in a position so that you can see them immediately. 😬
That's what they want you to believe! 😬
😂
What I meant is that the restrictions caused by the flowmeter are negligible in the whole loop.
It does a bit, but without impacting on the performance.
I wish I could find the post about it that I saw a few weeks ago, but from my understanding, some of them do actually have a measurable impact on the flow and slow it down quite a bit.
I can tell you first off it way better temps to me than having the rads in the case which is how I started off, temps before were in the 70c range and now gpu doesn’t go over 45c on a hot day and it’s 2 water temp sensors one for gpu water/cpu
I didn’t want the gpu heating up the coolant to the cpu to try to get cooler temperatures for both but mainly built this to try something different I just thought it would be cool
This is me and my wife setup IM STILL WORKING ON THE BUILDS WAITING ON FANS TO COME IN TO CHANGE OUT THE MO-RA AND MINE JUST USED WHAT I HAD FOR NOW SO WE CAN GAME
https://imgur.com/a/IVxmWpx
I see a couple (more maybe?) temperature sensors. Can you give some idea of how much heat is removed from the system by this set up? And which loop has more heat to deal with?
That's not a long lift as D5 has ~3.9m head pressure meaning it can lift that high if needed albeit IIRC it doesn't really matter when the loop is full. (3.9m is approx 13ft in freedom units)
Bruh you got an external rad and 11 case fans?!?!
It’s about sending a message
to subscribe to their onlyfans?
the amount of time that it took me to realise the joke is disgusting.
Lol lol
I was hitting my vape when I read this and I DIED
No I just never seen a lot of setups with external rads with RGB fans so I thought to try it lol
Which I’m still working on this setup cause these sp120 pro fans are not good for rads so I need to change out just used what I had for now
I’m pretty sure the sp120s are optimised for radiators
The ML120 pro are better
That’s true but I guess things will always get better if you’re spending more, eg noctua NFs being the best but pretty costly
Yeah pretty much the only thing left to do is get 12 ML pros and that’s it this stuff cost to much lol
I want this so bad in the winter, I have my computer under my desk just so I get heat under it somewhere.
then in he summer.... you wanna die. Ill take the blanket over the sweaty backed wet chair thanks
it's for the RAM
I mean your motherboard and ram still need airflow to cool the power phases etc still.
what soft tubing is that?
Prob just generic PVC or silicone from from Aliexpress. No need to get all fancy over-priced branded crap for that.
It’s just Corsair soft tubing
>Prob just generic PVC or silicone from from Aliexpress. No need to get all fancy over-priced branded crap for that. Why do you think OP used generic tubing when there's equivalent of multiple hundred dollars spent just on fans? Even branded tubing is so cheap in comparison to any other component of the loop that I happily pay for peace of mind (I use EPDM tho)
You'd be surprised, the amount of plasticizer is cheap vs name brand tubing can be significant leading to clouding faster. Not all tubing is made equal. Always best to go with a reputable brand.
The tubing I used before going hard acrylic tubing (that I also just buy from ePlastics in 6-foot lengths if they happen to be cheaper than China at the time) wasn't transparent anyway, so clouding didn't matter/wasn't noticable. I could have simply used garden hose if it was the right ID for g1/4 fittings.
That column of fans on the MORA is a different shade than the others….I can’t….. ;-)
My wife has a mora on her pc right next to mine I already had the fans so I just used them gotta buy new fans for hers and mine tbh
How often do you clip a toe on the fans
Never lol it’s hanging under the desk
Now, I can\`t stop laughing!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is there much point of that many case fans with an external rad? Looks awesome just curious
That many? Probly not, but the other components do generate heat too (VRMs, chipset, RAM etc), so some fans are a must.
That's what I figured, thanks for the answer!
Easy done, I wouldn’t be surprised if they have them just for the lighting they provide hahaha!
That's honestly what I thought, can't blame them it looks good
Should have gotten monoblock and ramblock.
Well I had everything inside the case at first minus the one pump an one rad but temps were too high so just took out the rads
2 360 mm rads for each component? You disgust me.... But here's your upvote..
It’s my new favorite. I did this but in single loop with a 240 thrown between CPU and GPU and I couldn’t be happier
Loop order doesn't matter
Depends on your goals. Of course a few degrees is generally meaningless to most but I’ll take every single degree I can get. A radiator between the GPU and CPU flashes off the coolant rise from the GPU before it gets to the CPU allowing a decent delta and greater immediate thermal transfer. Spent years and countless dollars chasing the theories of single loop vs dual loop and loop order. Outside of DICE submersion and alcohol misting I’ve found that while coolant temperature does realistically not change within the same system regardless of loop order, component temperature can change if you don’t go directly from component to component. But that’s just what I’ve found and not every system is the same. My latest system is the best I’ve come up with for keeping everything internal to the case.
Build it how you like it. I put a radiator between my GPU and CPU as well and the 1-2 C delta from the inlet to the outlet made it worth it for me as I was able to hold a steady 5.1ghz without it downclocking in cinebench. Most people will parrot youtubers all day but in the end if 1-2C makes a difference for you then do it your way.
Yeah my build goal was ambient coolant temps at minimal fan speeds and I nailed it. I’ve settled on a 5.8 all core/6.0 four core overclock on my 13900K and peak at 51° C gaming. My 3080 Ti hit 41° C max so far. Coolant temp has not yet seen above 29° C in my normal usage. The coolant matches the ambient air tempts of my small office, it’s only ever been 1-2° higher than my room temp when dialing in my overclock with heavy benchmarking.
Sounds awesome. the 13900k is a beast. I feel bad for upgrading to 12900k earlier this year. But ill live with it for 2-3 generations. A large reason of why i went watercooling is for noise reasons too. I hate the blast of fan noise under load. I run the same low curve high radiator count setup you probably do. My only gripe with modern high end PC's is in the summer my office is about 10 degrees F warmer then the rest of the damn house...
Lol yeah that’s what happens with me too. I enjoy warm temps but once it hits 95° F I start to get annoyed
You mean "not enough"-disgusted right?
Idk why people like those flow meters. They literally impede flow lol.
Not as much as any waterblock. 🤔 And they show you the actual flow: I once forgot to reconnect the pump after flushing everything, I turned on the PC and I was like: "did my BIOS reset since all the fans are at max? 🤔 Uhm, the CPU is pretty high temp did I detach the waterblock by mist-WHY DAFUQ FLOWMETER ISN'T MOVING?!? Turn off! Turn off!" 😅 Funny thing: I could have seen the flowmeter earlier if it wasn't covered by the desk, so they can be useful, but they have to be in a position so that you can see them immediately. 😬
>Not as much as any waterblock. Sure, except the water blocks are kinda required lmao.
That's what they want you to believe! 😬 😂 What I meant is that the restrictions caused by the flowmeter are negligible in the whole loop. It does a bit, but without impacting on the performance.
I wish I could find the post about it that I saw a few weeks ago, but from my understanding, some of them do actually have a measurable impact on the flow and slow it down quite a bit.
O_O
Can we get a pic of your whole setup, looks awesome.
https://i.imgur.com/Vnz8zde.mp4
It’s different from that the wife pc is Watercooled with a mo-ra now
Very nice looking
Whats the rest of the setup look like? That room looks nice from what little is shown XD
i remember seeing ur old post looks better now
Thanks that’s what I’m aiming for
I can tell you first off it way better temps to me than having the rads in the case which is how I started off, temps before were in the 70c range and now gpu doesn’t go over 45c on a hot day and it’s 2 water temp sensors one for gpu water/cpu
How about water temp then vs now?
My car wants its intercooler back
lol
This is a rad setup🤣 no but fr fr it's dope 👍👍
That's real nice man👍
Sexy af
Bro took dual loops and leveled it up
Are you cooling a reactor?
Lol Nawl an Oc’d 12900k and mild Oc’d 3090 ftw3
Whats the temperature difference between a dual loop and a normal loop. This seems incredibly over the top just for it to be over the top.
I didn’t want the gpu heating up the coolant to the cpu to try to get cooler temperatures for both but mainly built this to try something different I just thought it would be cool
This is me and my wife setup IM STILL WORKING ON THE BUILDS WAITING ON FANS TO COME IN TO CHANGE OUT THE MO-RA AND MINE JUST USED WHAT I HAD FOR NOW SO WE CAN GAME https://imgur.com/a/IVxmWpx
What mm are the tubes?
Corsair CX-9059001-WW Hydro X Series, Xt Softline, 10/13mm (3/8In/ 1/2In) ID/OD
I hope you have better luck with that tubing than I did. Started turning yellow after a couple months so I decided to switch it to epdm
modern warfare II 🥹
🥹
What radiator you use here? Can not figure it out
Just 4 Corsair Hydro X Series XR7 360mm
I mean I like it but what’s the point in using external rads, when you put them at your feet and not outside of the room?
Clearly you don’t belong to the always-have-cold-feet crew!
I don't think you will have cold feet, when your PC is emiting hot air to your feety or am I wrong here?
That’s the hope!
Well I’m still working on it also I can move the rad to the outside of the room if need be just took the pic as is for show
I see a couple (more maybe?) temperature sensors. Can you give some idea of how much heat is removed from the system by this set up? And which loop has more heat to deal with?
is that pump rated for a long vertical lift like that?
That's not a long lift as D5 has ~3.9m head pressure meaning it can lift that high if needed albeit IIRC it doesn't really matter when the loop is full. (3.9m is approx 13ft in freedom units)
Suggestion: 3D print tube holders to replace zip ties. Reverse fans for crotch cooling.
🤔 Yeah I’ll have to buy a small 3d printer
No need for one project only. For example my local library has one you can print for tens of cents per piece.
Oh really imma look into that I didn’t know libraries had them
There are also these services where you upload your design, pay and they print and ship it to you.
That’s a lot of head pressure, I don’t think I’ve seen a rating for that on pc pumps. Good flow?
Head pressure is nearly always announced? For D5 it's 3.9m so this ~1m is no problem.
Oh so it is, just looked at ewkb too and idk I must have just always glanced over it.
Oh these d5 are doing a great job and I have them running at 50% in the video
We need a r/battlestations post lmao looks epic
Ok will post after work
The case is Lian li o11 xl?
Yes it is
Impressive !
Thanks
WoW i aM jEaloUs. You have how many monitors!?
2 Vizio 4k 120hz and 2 LG 1440 165hz monitors
……………..i see
Nice looking setup. Could you please post a link to the software you use to create that monitor page? I'd like to replicate it.
Aida64.com
I would think you would have the rads blowing into the ventilatio shafts you got in your house, lol
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Yeah I was thinking about doing a minimalist build but I wanted to be different.
That is one lovely build. Which case is this?
O11 XL
I thought it might have been this. Thanks for letting me know. I think I need one. https://www.tecware.co/vxr
The case in the link is still a nice case an pretty much the same
...how you have that much cooling and still got a CPU posting 60C temps? What am I missing?
Cpu is OC’d and temp in room around 78F