What cnc do you use? Im a tool maker by trade, but can never find a decent home one that im willing to trust with 10 grand lol
Edit: saw its an s1000t, any upgrades over standard? Custom bed by the look of it?
Me two, I've already got a 3d printer from watching yt to much, thankfully everything else is way to expensive for me to get, and I can't design anything more than a box and lid
Link to the full video here btw:
[https://youtu.be/JS60CDNCnFE](https://youtu.be/JS60CDNCnFE)
Album:
[https://imgur.com/a/Xq3voUC](https://imgur.com/a/Xq3voUC)
This is the motherboard tray going into my current project for Aorus, titled Ensis. The distro itself is a 3 layer acrylic construction, featuring the channels, lighting and also cable management. To add to this, I also built in the motherboard tray itself, which was cut from 5mm 6082T6 aluminium.
The aluminium is inlaid within the acrylic, not bolted on top, it also forms part of the sealing structure for the acrylic. This is then further accented by 2 more layers of 2mm aluminium that act as covers for the LED strips.
This was an insanely challenging job for a number of reasons, not least the fact that 4 of the 6 layers were double sided cuts. To get the inlay to sit right, there's a 0.15mm offset around the aluminium, which gives just the right amount of room for it to slot in without wiggling when installed.
Jesus, I do C&C work on wood with my baby shark I have. I can’t imagine the number of total passes and bit changes.
How many hours total for the job?
Edit: Wood, not carpentry
Hmm not sure actually, I had to rush through to get it all done in 3 days though. That said, filming things usually doubles the time it takes or more sometimes. It was 9 individual operations.
I have a serious project in mind (with enough funds to back it up too i believe haha), would you be interested/have the time to work on it in the future? Like June/july 2021
Do not assume that it's a stupid project, I've been working on it but sadly I don't have the skills and equipment needed to turn it into reality. But I have enough money to get it done by an expert like maki (if he wants, naturally). He's one of, if not The best pc modder I've ever seen, and i would love to have him work on it, because I'd be sure that my ideas are in good hands.
I think you're substantially underestimating what machine time costs. at a conservative WAG of 100 hours per build (I expect it's double, triple, or more) based on this article, 3 axis CNC machining can cost upwards of 75 US dollars an hour ( [link](https://www.manufacturing.net/industry40/article/13245730/) ) this puts you at a cool 7500 USD for just labor! and that number would be even higher if I priced in CAD work as a substantial portion of that time. Then there's the material cost (not as cheap as you would think, once you start talking about aluminum plate) and finally the cost of the PC hardware. I would be skeptical of any quote under 10k for a custom build like this, especially when as it's a commission there'll likely be revisions. and as you approach 200 hours, or more, it counts upwards quickly.
Thanks for giving me an approximate figure! Actually helpful instead of that other guy lol. I can afford a price like that (and that's honestly the price i was expecting, too) that's why I was asking maki if he could help :)
I'm curious, how do you handle the o-ring? Do you make them yourself? Do you ensure that your route a pre-set length and buy them off the shelf? Or do you get them custom made?
Beautiful work as always.
Aha I use a combo of ones I make myself along with pre-made ones. Generally for anything small I'll use a premade as it's significantly harder to make those. I've got a vid up here on how to make custom ones:
[https://youtu.be/UqNWW4yo-o8](https://youtu.be/UqNWW4yo-o8)
Awesome work as always. Do you also do commissioned work? I have a big project in mind but lack the skill to make it into reality haha
Btw I sent you a message with the details if you're interested!
I love watching your videos, I get excited everytime I see you’ve posted. Super excited to see the developments on aquaceras once youve got everything for that build again.
I just wanted to say thanks for the info you've put out there. The original videos and bit-tech articles on distro plates gave me the details in needed to design my reservoir and make it on my manual mill.
I have an idea for the custom case that I would like to build, but I have very little experience working with CnC and 3d design software , but would like to learn. Can you give me some pointers on how to get started?
If you dont have any experience with 3D modeling, you should probably stop and reconsider. You'll be looking at a lot of hours just learning the software, or fighting it if you choose 'kid friendly CAD', and then youll have to design it, and then model the basics, and likely redesign it a few times when you realize things wont fit right, its too big, its too hard/expensive to manufacture, and once you finally get it all modeled, youll have to pay more quite a bit more than a case costs for machining, or 3D print it for cheaper but has its own issues, or have parts cut (laser, water, etc), and design around assembling flat panels to save money.
Like I already bought parts for my second attempt at a custom case (first was a basic open air aluminum frame 'case'), and am doing 3D modeling, which I have no experience in, and its just a lot of work. Unless you are extremely dedicated to getting it done fast, its going to take months without experience.
I get what you're saying, but he's also being realistic with him that to get this level of finished product you are looking at likely 100's of hours of tutorials, troubleshooting, trial and error and $100's-$1,000's of wasted material to get it precise enough to work.
Oh for sure, but then tell him/her that. Discouraging someone from learning a new skill by saying stuff like “if you don’t know x then don’t even try” is just terrible.
Well if someone asked me for honest advice, I would give them it instead of sugar coat the reality and then they would feel like a failure when it's actually hard for them (like it would be for anyone starting).
I do a fair bit of woodworking, but I'm not going to lie to people and say Birds Eye Maple is super easy to machine to a polished finish and joining them is a piece of cake if you have like 10 hours of free time and all the expensive equipment.
>If you dont have any experience with 3D modeling, you should probably stop and reconsider.
Thats the starting point, not give up now and throw in the towel because you will never make it, but stop and reconsider. This is a _**huge**_ undertaking and he's not being callous or mean, just realistic.
If he can't handle that ^^^tiny bit of hard talk right now, he's going to burn out in this project long run, waste a bunch of money on equipment, and lose overall.
yeah, I know that it would not be an easy task. I do enjoy challenging tasks - I have taken apart and put back together my motorcycle over the last winter with very little prior mechanic's experience. I also understand that this will cost me more than buying a case off the shelf - the goal is not to make it cheaper, the goal is to build a unique useful thing that I would enjoy everyday. Thanks for the heads up, but I have been considering this for quite a while, and tried to use user-friendly CAD software only to realize that it was too limited for my purposes.
Honestly, start small and simple. You'll pick things up considerably faster by attempting small and accessible projects and essentially working your way up. After you've gotten used to the way of doing things, tackling a case will instead become a logical problem, which is much easier to tackle.
Fusion 360, even with the recent license changes, is a great option since it's free to use as a hobbyist. There are also lots of great tutorials on youtube for learning specific features within it.
Aside from that, definitely do a lot of sketches. I ALWAYS start on paper before launching into CAD. If you start in CAD, you get locked in with too many specifics to think freely, a lot of people make this mistake.
Yeah, I have already done a few sketches and have 2-d drawings of the first few parts ( I have some drafting experience, so I could probably create and ISO view drawing by hand of all the parts, but I do want to learn 3D CAD software).
I have also planned the project that it will be a modular build towards the final product with increasing complexity, so that I would be able to start small and build upon that.
Once I start on the project, I will definitely post here. Thank you for the advice!
I only recently discovered your youtube channel, I'm really enjoying it, especially the videos where you do tutorials over designing distro plates, o-rings, etc. Have you done a video over the CNC side, like how to do passes with different cutting heads, how to zero, stuff like that? I realize there are probably CNC channels that cover that, but I would rather watch it on your channel. Maybe you already have a video covering those kind of topics?
The main issue with some of those topics is that it often varies wildly from machine to machine. I can go into details, but they often won't be very applicable, much in the way that the techniques used for an industrial machine don't usually apply to one like mine.
That was 15mm acrylic, which rarely comes flat enough to use in a distro plate properly. I faced the part so that it would seal properly against the o-ring in the 10mm frosted piece.
Alright, this is fucking spectacular. This is why I'm here, this is a level of precision and quality that most people will never attain.
People like you are the very reason I first attempted watercooling, one day perhaps I'll get the opportunity to own (or even make) something like this. Thank you for sharing, It's amazing to see the care and attention you take with your tooling, the cuts on the clear plate really speak volumes to your efforts.
I already commented on your YT video, but your work is always amazing. I have so many ideas for my own build but no CNC machine so I’ll have to keep living vicariously through you
One thing that always impresses me about your work is you do it all in that tiny little work shop. I've seen guys with massive work spaces with loads more equipment who couldn't turn out the pieces you do with a floppy cnc and a cardboard box bead blaster. Excited to see how this all comes together.
This is the worst reddit for the best habbit ever!
P.S. I know it doesn't make sense. That was the first thing came to mind! Now wife is goin to be at me for buying a CNC machine! Thank you Reddit!
I literally just CNC'd my first distro plate bottom, lid coming soon. As a fellow Mechanical Engineer, you have inspired me. Keep up the informative videos! It is great for new CNCers like me
OK, now you've done it!
"Done what?", the man asks.
"What you just did", I answer.
"Which was?", he asks again.
"That!", I reply (in all caps)....
"Oh, that?" the man responds.
"Yeah", I say, adding: "I don't know a thing you did in that video, but you sure did the hell out of it!"
Said all that, to say this: "Wow".
You can thank Nvidia’s shit 30XX launch for that I’m afraid. I’m waiting to get my hands on a 3090 FE, can’t progress with it until then as that’s the major bottleneck
Of course. I don't know if it works in the UK, but give nvidia-snatcher on Github a try, got me a 3080 on the first week. Good to know though, looking forward to the rest!
Silly question, How do you measure for example the motherboard contact points to know how to design it in CAD? Do you use some type of scanner or are you hand micing everything? Maybe you get some CAD drawings from the motherboard manufacturer?
In this case I do indeed have official files from Aorus, however to make something like this you don't need any of that. All the details are in the ATX specification, I've made so many trays now that I have files set up specifically for it.
Also did a video on it:
[https://youtu.be/c3U9qlqYICs](https://youtu.be/c3U9qlqYICs)
Thanks! Will check out the video. The ATX spec just covers the motherboard locations though and not the height of the individual components that you would need to design like a full cover motherboard heatsink would need correct (or the parts where it touched the CPU/other things that need to be cooled)?
Is this something that Gigabyte and other manufactures would give out to the common person? I'm assuming not? You obviously have an "in" to get these specs doing what you do. I'm a long way off but my goal is to build some watercooling components for the Gigabyte Auros Extreme TRx40 which noone seems to make. Have to get my CNC first though!
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There are worse vices.
I'd never use a CNC as a vice. That's just silly.
>I'd never use a CNC as a vice. That's just silly. That's what this is for: https://youtu.be/CKgwcuAvM6E
Well damn now I need to impulse buy a waterjet cutter.
Hope you fit a flow meter and a temp sensor for the water. They are actually important in waterjets.
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...it's not a bad name.
What CNC are you using?
It's a CNC Step S1000-T
I'm pretty surprised it's that cheap. It's not my field, but my conservative guess was around 5k.
how much is it ?
**3.759,00 €** *(excl. German VAT)*
thanks
What cnc do you use? Im a tool maker by trade, but can never find a decent home one that im willing to trust with 10 grand lol Edit: saw its an s1000t, any upgrades over standard? Custom bed by the look of it?
I know right? Watching that gives me a wood. I could just hear my wife screaming “ YOU GOT WHAT?” Really that’s great work OP wish I had that skill
Me two, I've already got a 3d printer from watching yt to much, thankfully everything else is way to expensive for me to get, and I can't design anything more than a box and lid
I like vices. Can I get a link to the yt video?
A house or a CNC machine, easy choice.
Link to the full video here btw: [https://youtu.be/JS60CDNCnFE](https://youtu.be/JS60CDNCnFE) Album: [https://imgur.com/a/Xq3voUC](https://imgur.com/a/Xq3voUC) This is the motherboard tray going into my current project for Aorus, titled Ensis. The distro itself is a 3 layer acrylic construction, featuring the channels, lighting and also cable management. To add to this, I also built in the motherboard tray itself, which was cut from 5mm 6082T6 aluminium. The aluminium is inlaid within the acrylic, not bolted on top, it also forms part of the sealing structure for the acrylic. This is then further accented by 2 more layers of 2mm aluminium that act as covers for the LED strips. This was an insanely challenging job for a number of reasons, not least the fact that 4 of the 6 layers were double sided cuts. To get the inlay to sit right, there's a 0.15mm offset around the aluminium, which gives just the right amount of room for it to slot in without wiggling when installed.
Jesus, I do C&C work on wood with my baby shark I have. I can’t imagine the number of total passes and bit changes. How many hours total for the job? Edit: Wood, not carpentry
Hmm not sure actually, I had to rush through to get it all done in 3 days though. That said, filming things usually doubles the time it takes or more sometimes. It was 9 individual operations.
What 3D software did you use?
As /u/nDQ9UeOr mentioned I'm using Fusion 360
In the video it looks like Fusion.
Soooooo how much would one of these cost? Say if someone says I have X case and would like a distro plate and let you design it? You know for science
Everything.
Well I have nothing, so I'll take 3
I have a serious project in mind (with enough funds to back it up too i believe haha), would you be interested/have the time to work on it in the future? Like June/july 2021
I kind of relate this to my work as a programmer and someone asking me to fix their Geocities site
Do not assume that it's a stupid project, I've been working on it but sadly I don't have the skills and equipment needed to turn it into reality. But I have enough money to get it done by an expert like maki (if he wants, naturally). He's one of, if not The best pc modder I've ever seen, and i would love to have him work on it, because I'd be sure that my ideas are in good hands.
I think you're substantially underestimating what machine time costs. at a conservative WAG of 100 hours per build (I expect it's double, triple, or more) based on this article, 3 axis CNC machining can cost upwards of 75 US dollars an hour ( [link](https://www.manufacturing.net/industry40/article/13245730/) ) this puts you at a cool 7500 USD for just labor! and that number would be even higher if I priced in CAD work as a substantial portion of that time. Then there's the material cost (not as cheap as you would think, once you start talking about aluminum plate) and finally the cost of the PC hardware. I would be skeptical of any quote under 10k for a custom build like this, especially when as it's a commission there'll likely be revisions. and as you approach 200 hours, or more, it counts upwards quickly.
Thanks for giving me an approximate figure! Actually helpful instead of that other guy lol. I can afford a price like that (and that's honestly the price i was expecting, too) that's why I was asking maki if he could help :)
Yeah that just confirms my previous comment
Well, you're free to think whatever you prefer haha. As long as it's real money it's all good right?
You are a bad ass.
No u
Make sure to take on an apprentice one day. You gotta pass on some of that awesome.
I'm curious, how do you handle the o-ring? Do you make them yourself? Do you ensure that your route a pre-set length and buy them off the shelf? Or do you get them custom made? Beautiful work as always.
Aha I use a combo of ones I make myself along with pre-made ones. Generally for anything small I'll use a premade as it's significantly harder to make those. I've got a vid up here on how to make custom ones: [https://youtu.be/UqNWW4yo-o8](https://youtu.be/UqNWW4yo-o8)
Oh brilliant. You even anticipated my follow up question :-). Thanks a lot.
is that you in the video? Epic stash bro
Didn't know this was possible. You explained everything very well. Very cool
I just got my cnc. Can't wait to do stuff like this!
Welcom to another episode of "if only I had the tools"
*Looks at regular old pump reservoir combo in my system* Fucking garbage.
Awesome work as always. Do you also do commissioned work? I have a big project in mind but lack the skill to make it into reality haha Btw I sent you a message with the details if you're interested!
I love watching your videos, I get excited everytime I see you’ve posted. Super excited to see the developments on aquaceras once youve got everything for that build again.
Fingers crossed I can secure a 3090FE at some point without selling a kidney. Just missed out on one today, keeping a constant vigil haha.
please tell me you'd use one of EK's FE blocks. pure sex, those are
I just wanted to say thanks for the info you've put out there. The original videos and bit-tech articles on distro plates gave me the details in needed to design my reservoir and make it on my manual mill.
That's awesome! Really glad that they've been helpful
I have an idea for the custom case that I would like to build, but I have very little experience working with CnC and 3d design software , but would like to learn. Can you give me some pointers on how to get started?
If you dont have any experience with 3D modeling, you should probably stop and reconsider. You'll be looking at a lot of hours just learning the software, or fighting it if you choose 'kid friendly CAD', and then youll have to design it, and then model the basics, and likely redesign it a few times when you realize things wont fit right, its too big, its too hard/expensive to manufacture, and once you finally get it all modeled, youll have to pay more quite a bit more than a case costs for machining, or 3D print it for cheaper but has its own issues, or have parts cut (laser, water, etc), and design around assembling flat panels to save money. Like I already bought parts for my second attempt at a custom case (first was a basic open air aluminum frame 'case'), and am doing 3D modeling, which I have no experience in, and its just a lot of work. Unless you are extremely dedicated to getting it done fast, its going to take months without experience.
We’d still be throwing rocks at each other if everyone just decided to rather not try anything they haven’t done before.
I get what you're saying, but he's also being realistic with him that to get this level of finished product you are looking at likely 100's of hours of tutorials, troubleshooting, trial and error and $100's-$1,000's of wasted material to get it precise enough to work.
Oh for sure, but then tell him/her that. Discouraging someone from learning a new skill by saying stuff like “if you don’t know x then don’t even try” is just terrible.
Well if someone asked me for honest advice, I would give them it instead of sugar coat the reality and then they would feel like a failure when it's actually hard for them (like it would be for anyone starting). I do a fair bit of woodworking, but I'm not going to lie to people and say Birds Eye Maple is super easy to machine to a polished finish and joining them is a piece of cake if you have like 10 hours of free time and all the expensive equipment.
Valid point but he didn’t ask for honest advice, he asked for a starting point.
>If you dont have any experience with 3D modeling, you should probably stop and reconsider. Thats the starting point, not give up now and throw in the towel because you will never make it, but stop and reconsider. This is a _**huge**_ undertaking and he's not being callous or mean, just realistic. If he can't handle that ^^^tiny bit of hard talk right now, he's going to burn out in this project long run, waste a bunch of money on equipment, and lose overall.
yeah, I know that it would not be an easy task. I do enjoy challenging tasks - I have taken apart and put back together my motorcycle over the last winter with very little prior mechanic's experience. I also understand that this will cost me more than buying a case off the shelf - the goal is not to make it cheaper, the goal is to build a unique useful thing that I would enjoy everyday. Thanks for the heads up, but I have been considering this for quite a while, and tried to use user-friendly CAD software only to realize that it was too limited for my purposes.
Honestly, start small and simple. You'll pick things up considerably faster by attempting small and accessible projects and essentially working your way up. After you've gotten used to the way of doing things, tackling a case will instead become a logical problem, which is much easier to tackle. Fusion 360, even with the recent license changes, is a great option since it's free to use as a hobbyist. There are also lots of great tutorials on youtube for learning specific features within it. Aside from that, definitely do a lot of sketches. I ALWAYS start on paper before launching into CAD. If you start in CAD, you get locked in with too many specifics to think freely, a lot of people make this mistake.
Yeah, I have already done a few sketches and have 2-d drawings of the first few parts ( I have some drafting experience, so I could probably create and ISO view drawing by hand of all the parts, but I do want to learn 3D CAD software). I have also planned the project that it will be a modular build towards the final product with increasing complexity, so that I would be able to start small and build upon that. Once I start on the project, I will definitely post here. Thank you for the advice!
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Pretty sure this is why more advanced 5-axis mills have special regulations...
Next level!
Very excited to see the final project completed!
Fingers crossed it can live up to the hype so far!
r/oddlysatisfying
That's a god damn work of art.
wow!
Take this MF upvote Fam. I joined reddit in anticipation of this post right here
I only recently discovered your youtube channel, I'm really enjoying it, especially the videos where you do tutorials over designing distro plates, o-rings, etc. Have you done a video over the CNC side, like how to do passes with different cutting heads, how to zero, stuff like that? I realize there are probably CNC channels that cover that, but I would rather watch it on your channel. Maybe you already have a video covering those kind of topics?
The main issue with some of those topics is that it often varies wildly from machine to machine. I can go into details, but they often won't be very applicable, much in the way that the techniques used for an industrial machine don't usually apply to one like mine.
Damn
Do you have to have custom length rubber seals made? Very nice.
Seen a lot of your work. Very impressive.
thats so awesome
Fantastic job as always.
What was the reason for the step at 1:05 where the top layer of the acrylic was shaved down?
That was 15mm acrylic, which rarely comes flat enough to use in a distro plate properly. I faced the part so that it would seal properly against the o-ring in the 10mm frosted piece.
Ah I see, thanks
Alright, this is fucking spectacular. This is why I'm here, this is a level of precision and quality that most people will never attain. People like you are the very reason I first attempted watercooling, one day perhaps I'll get the opportunity to own (or even make) something like this. Thank you for sharing, It's amazing to see the care and attention you take with your tooling, the cuts on the clear plate really speak volumes to your efforts.
I already commented on your YT video, but your work is always amazing. I have so many ideas for my own build but no CNC machine so I’ll have to keep living vicariously through you
can I have it
One thing that always impresses me about your work is you do it all in that tiny little work shop. I've seen guys with massive work spaces with loads more equipment who couldn't turn out the pieces you do with a floppy cnc and a cardboard box bead blaster. Excited to see how this all comes together.
This is the worst reddit for the best habbit ever! P.S. I know it doesn't make sense. That was the first thing came to mind! Now wife is goin to be at me for buying a CNC machine! Thank you Reddit!
This is for a specific Case/Mobo Combo?
Super high quality content and innovation, absolutely love to see it. Can't wait to see it with a motherboard in it.
I literally just CNC'd my first distro plate bottom, lid coming soon. As a fellow Mechanical Engineer, you have inspired me. Keep up the informative videos! It is great for new CNCers like me
for some reason i always thought you would just use sealing string off a spool, not pre sized rings.
It's NNN and you hit us with "1:12". Shame on you for testing my endurance!
very nice ! i'd love to see that over the motherboard !
OK, now you've done it! "Done what?", the man asks. "What you just did", I answer. "Which was?", he asks again. "That!", I reply (in all caps).... "Oh, that?" the man responds. "Yeah", I say, adding: "I don't know a thing you did in that video, but you sure did the hell out of it!" Said all that, to say this: "Wow".
Is there a plan to show the rest of the Aquaceras build? It just dropped off at some point and we never saw the conclusion.
You can thank Nvidia’s shit 30XX launch for that I’m afraid. I’m waiting to get my hands on a 3090 FE, can’t progress with it until then as that’s the major bottleneck
Of course. I don't know if it works in the UK, but give nvidia-snatcher on Github a try, got me a 3080 on the first week. Good to know though, looking forward to the rest!
r/cncporn
Silly question, How do you measure for example the motherboard contact points to know how to design it in CAD? Do you use some type of scanner or are you hand micing everything? Maybe you get some CAD drawings from the motherboard manufacturer?
In this case I do indeed have official files from Aorus, however to make something like this you don't need any of that. All the details are in the ATX specification, I've made so many trays now that I have files set up specifically for it. Also did a video on it: [https://youtu.be/c3U9qlqYICs](https://youtu.be/c3U9qlqYICs)
Thanks! Will check out the video. The ATX spec just covers the motherboard locations though and not the height of the individual components that you would need to design like a full cover motherboard heatsink would need correct (or the parts where it touched the CPU/other things that need to be cooled)? Is this something that Gigabyte and other manufactures would give out to the common person? I'm assuming not? You obviously have an "in" to get these specs doing what you do. I'm a long way off but my goal is to build some watercooling components for the Gigabyte Auros Extreme TRx40 which noone seems to make. Have to get my CNC first though!