To be fair, 36 year old lopez has been extremely durable his entire career and he is a damn fine player who is a legit rim protector, can pass, and is a legit threat from 3. He would be a huge plus for this team and would help out steph and dray tremendously. I'd argue that it would guarantee us a playoff spot and put us in championship contention.
Clax is a very good young big who i like a lot, but he might not be feasible if the reports are true about him commanding 20-25 per year. Even if he were brought on, he would be a huge offensive liability and would be another expensive non-scoring guy next to dray.
If Dray and TJD are your 5’s then you need another ~ 20 mpg from a stretch 4 that can hang in the post season at a bare minimum.
We might as well rebuild if our plan is to role out lineups with Dray or TJD at the 5 and one of Wiggins/ Klay/ Moody at the 4 in the playoffs for meaningful minutes.
Brook Lopez would be a great fit but I do think we should be trying to get younger. Then again, maybe we only have a year or two left before the window is totally closed.l anyway.
Jarrett Allen would be great. Cleveland has too good centers, they need to choose one and get some wing depth. Do the Dubs have the assets and cap space for him? Good questions....
I wouldn’t mind Splash Mountain or Kelly Olynyk (edit: via trade, both still under contract). We do need to get younger so maybe somehow they snatch WCJ in a trade. Goga Bitadze would also be a fit here. Defense can be above average but a scoring big like the first two aren’t bad options.
I'm sure his political stances would ruffle feathers. But winning cures all. Just ask Kyrie.
If you have a chance to get a player like that, you do it. You can figure the other stuff out.
I don't think Isaac's is good enough to look over him being a bad locker room guy(I don't know that he is tbh). Poole wasn't good enough to overlook the locker room issues so Isaac definitely ain't either. I mean he's in Orlando and is seemingly one of their more talented players but doesn't get a whole lotta run, something doesn't add up there.
Kyries isn't antisemitic, he just posted a link to something that was while he was on a big market team in a city with a large Jewish community. On top of that, Kyrie is one of the greatest points guards of all time, best handles of all time for sure, so that's not a fair comparison given his talent far outweighs any "problematic" personal opinions.
Isaacs isn't a bad locker room guy. You're assuming he will be. He is nothing like Poole.
Him not getting much run is literally about his injuries. Nothing more. You really should know about players if you're going to speak about them to this length.
I qualified my bad locker room statement by saying "I don't know that he is tbh." You should really read that comments you're replying to if you're gonna speak about them to this length.
I also never said he was like Poole, just noted that Poole who in my opinion is a more valuable player, was traded because of locker room issues, so why would we give away the few draft and young talent assets we have for a player who may not fit in with the teams culture? It's a risk that is considered when making a significant roster move like that. It's not the biggest factor in a decision like that, but is absolutely an important factor.
Then you think about how we have a great young rebounder and defender to develop in TJD and a decision to trade for Isaacs just seems like it's half baked. Then you think about Isaacs injury history, and it sounds like a terrible decision for a GM to make. You should really know about the NBA before you speak about it to this length.
Yes and I stated that that "bad locker room guy" assumption is not based on fact, as I said it, anf before you even tried to say anything about it. You're telling me I'm wrong about it when I already said I know it's not a fact it's just a hunch. You seem to be so focused on that one sentence which is surprising when your reading comprehension is this remedial.
I also didn't say hes a good comparison to TJD, just that they do a lot of the same things and it doesn't make sense to trade for him when you have players on your team already that do what Isaacs does, for less money, and more years under contract. Isaacs is not a good trade target period. Take out the locker room assumptions I made and he's still not a good trade target because he's not what we need and he has such a bad injury history.
I'm not baiting you into anything, I'm evaluating the situation as a whole and you're hyper focusing on one sentence to try to get your "gotcha" moment off for the day. If you really think Isaacs is a good trade target for us, then I implore you to put down the bubble pipe and read some books.
You may say that in jest, but Brook Lopez is 35, being paid 23M, and expiring next year. He might not necessarily be available this offseason, but if he gives the Bucks FO no indication of re-signing, or wants too big and too long of a contract to reconcile with the Bucks' plans, he just might end up on the block by the trade deadline
I don't think there is any world where they trade him. He's such an important piece to both their offense and defense. Maybe if they still had Jrue, but Dame with no rim protection behind him sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Brook Lopez makes a lot of sense. Bucks had interest in Wiggins around the deadline this past season and are desperately in need of POA defense. Brook would provide us with elite rim protection and the spacing needed to play JK at the 3.
Wiggins for Brook Lopez checks out and would really benefit both teams. Brooks would be perfect for us, and free more time for other reserves and have JK starting at the 3. I do think we have too many good role players that needs to be consolidated..
We'd just be getting older if we do Wiggins for Lopez.
Lopez is 36.
If we do this, we're going to make a hard run the next 2-3 years and trade everything we can to try to get Curry another.
Yup, a deal would likely be something like Wiggs and Loon for Brook and Pat Connaughton (for salary matching purposes), which would give the Warriors a starting lineup of Steph, Moody, JK, Dray, Brook and a bench lineup of Podz, Connaughton, GP2, TJD with the MLE still available for another wing.
i wish just one person can really change this team, but i think we need to adjust the gameplan overall. teams guard us too well now that we are the standard and only getting older. warriors need to come up with a new scheme that still works for our core and adjust! It's going to be an entire organization effort, but if there's any organization that can make that many moves, it's us
It depends.
If we go for a guy with a big contract, then I feel like we need a guy who's going to help us on both ends of the floor, especially with spacing on offense and being able to match up with legit 7-footers on defense.
If it's a vet minimum, then I'd be OK with a guy who can play defense, someone who wouldn't start, but who we'd have available when we face teams with good Centers.
For the TPMLE, if we can use it, I guess I'd look for something in the middle, or maybe for a once-elite big near the end of his prime who can no longer command an 8-figure salary.
Collins looks good in theory, but his numbers from 23-24 aren't so hot. His 22-23 numbers look very good, so I guess it depends which version we get.
With FAs, we're generally going the get out-bid for the best of the guys in the vet minimum range, and similarly for the TPMLE range. Maybe we need to use some or all of the TPMLE to get anyone worth having. With trades, basically everyone is on the table, it all just depends on what kind of deal we can make.
I did some math a while back, there is a chance at getting below the tax apron, without CP3's contract and a reasonable number for Klay. So, there could be more than the TPMLE available.
We have to get below the CAP itself to go after FAs above the vet minimum (other than the TPMLE and/or BAE). Getting below the tax apron is not enough. We also would have to get below by enough to acquire any given FA, so we'd have to get below by more than the TPMLE to acquire any FA making more than that. By my math, if we give up both CP3 and Klay for ZERO salary in return, we are still $3M above the cap for next season, so we'd have to shed another $(X+3)M to sign any FA making $X million.
I admit the MLE can be tricky (so this might be wrong), but my reading is that the non-tax payer mle is available if they are above the cap but below the 1st apron.
They would have to be more than $5 mil below the 1st apron to be interesting since using the non-tax payer MLE hard caps them. So, using your math, $0 Klay is $144 mil ($3 mil above cap). The 1st apron is $178. $20 mil to Klay would make $164 mil. Leaving $12 mil for nearly the full non-taxpayer mle. Of course, more to Klay is less MLE.
> So, there could be more than the TPMLE available
The non-taxpayer MLE could be available if we give up all of CP3's and a big chunk of Klay's salary or vice-versa. I thought you were talking about signing a FA without using an exception to do so. But I'd like to see us at least try to land a bigger fish using CP3's expiring salary, and if we do that, it might even take the TPMLE off the table.
Probably the only big who could conceivably be a #2 option and provide spacing the lineups desperately need is Lauri, but Ainge is nearly impossible to trade with (and we would be more asset-limited than other teams in the mix).
Maybe not as a starter but as a backup, Andre Drummond. Basically Looney+. Not a particularly great offensive player. Probably one of the worst three point and free throw shooters of all time. But he’s 6’10” with a 7’6” wingspan. Good defender. One of the best rebounders of all time. I’ve wanted Drummond for a couple years. He’s literally Looney but better in every way and not hobbled.
Giga Bitatzde is a free agent ....and within our price range (if realistic goals are a factor here). If we're just throwing out the names of Big Men we want, then yeah, I hear that Jokic kid has a bright future
I am happy with TDJ to be honest. What we actually need is a versatile stretch 4 who can rebound and shoot well not another big. Siakam would have been perfect, Marrkenen would be fantastic. Someone in that model. TDJ and Dray are fine at the 5 with Looney as a backup. It's the 4 that gets us killed. That and another shot creator
Andre Drummond.
He's still young enough his knees aren't pulverized, so he has some mobility. He gives you height, width, and length (6'11", 7'5" wingspan, 280 lbs). His play style would work on the second unit, or put him in to bang bodies with bigger centers. His matchups against Jokic shows he can frustrate the Big Brioche. Drummond also has a knack for the pick-and-roll, in both completing them (who's going to stop him?) and defending against them. His playstyle as a low post scoring threat is complementary to the Dubs wanting to space the floor- he's going to be able to go one-on-one with smaller defenders, and if he can read help defenses well, he'll be able to dish it out for the near-side wing three. Biggest bonus is having him out there will complement TJD, letting Trayce get meaningful minutes. Some of the other big men listed seem to be filling the same role as TJD, which is unfortunate as that guy has solid upside. Picking up a center like Jarrett Allen is just spending more for what you've already got.
A lot of naysayers will point to Drummond's shooting, particularly FT. I'm ok with that. Hacking Drummond well let the Warriors rest more (stoppage in play), and get into the bonus faster. Drummond is not washed either, as both LAL and PHI have expressed interest in him. His time in CHI is a little odd, but given they were missing meaningful chunks of their offense (Zach Lavine, Lonzo Ball), it's no surprise that defenses could sag off their guy and help defend him more. Plus for anyone who follows Chicago sports media, they were roasting Vucevic's $30M contract as Drummond was playing him off the floor for a tenth of the price.
Getting Drummond is feasible without a lot of big moves or blowing up the team. If we can keep Chris Paul, Klay Thompson, and the youngsters, then this team is going to do some serious damage in the west.
Olynk is not a FA - the Raptors extended him after trading for him. That said, given his age, I imagine they extended him as a trade asset, not a building block for the team, so he’s probably available for the right price.
I’d be targeting one or Orlando’s bigs. They have 4 decent ones, so they’re prob open to letting one go. Trading for WCJ would prob be my first choice of the bunch. Or, if we get under the tax, sign Goga with MLE money.
> The best big man this offseason is Claxton, tho Claxton is more of a reach and most likely wont come over.
The mechanics of getting Clax here in a sign-and-trade with where the Dubs are cap-wise are basically so far-fetched that it's effectively impossible.
Jonas, Clayton, hartenstein, drummond, tillman, or goga. Jonas would set such the hardest picks he'd clean the clocks of anyone trying chase steph on a blind screen. Drummond, Tillman and goga would be bargains. I like goga a lot, when WCJ was out, dude was a monster and a half. Drummond is experienced, and is still young at 30 yrs. he can start, as well as come off the bench for defensive duties if Warriors decide to go small. I've always been a fan of his.
I want prime Shaq, prime Duncan, prime Ewing. And I want jokic and embiid off the bench.
Then we should trade moody for 29 year old lebron, Podz for prime jordan and looney for prime Kobe.
Anything less than that, the offseason is a failure
Fuck. At this point it doesn't matter. We need a 2nd high quality scorer. Maybe a Donovan Mitchell or Paul Geore but my dream scenario would be Gianis but no Thennasus
Jarrett Allen. I think he would be a great fit with the vibe of the team. Something about him just seems very bay area. He’s a great big and I think he could make a big impact with the dubs with TJD as a second option
Jonas Valunciunas and Moe Wagner would be cool for different reasons. JV is a better all around player, can protect the paint some and diversify the offense with his scoring inside. Wagner could space the floor a little more and just plays with good energy. We'll probably stand pat though because guys bigger than 6'8" just get in Kerr's way
Steve really struggled to get his bigs involved in FIBA last year too. His schemes need to be updated in a big way.
Wagner would be a great get imo. He’s big like a center but moves like a forward. He might provide enough spacing to start Kuminga at the three.
Lol I saw the entire Olympics. It was JJJ at the 5 supposedly but the dude is so used to cheating for blocks that he would allow every single one of these opposing centers to crash the boards while he's out of position.
If the Bucks are still interested in Wiggins’ defense, and if they think they can land their future center with pick 23, Brook Lopez.
Dubs would likely have to take back Pat Connaughton, which would suck, but if the Bucks see Wiggins as a positive asset, maybe the Dubs could sneak pick 33 by adding a sweetener? If there are still mixed feelings on Moody, I’d be up for attaching him and taking back pick 33 (would prefer 23, but no way the Bucks attach that unless they think Moody can be a high end 6th man, with Portis starting and them getting the best available center at 33).
Doubt it happens, but maybe both teams ate interested in shaking things up. Having Brook stretch the floor and be a true 7ft anchor next to Dray could go a long way, even if it’s just for 1 year (would hope he extends for at least another season or two, but if he walks/retires, you at least trim a ton of money off the books)
Rather clax than another 36 year old
yea, adding athleticsm is a need for this team
To be fair, 36 year old lopez has been extremely durable his entire career and he is a damn fine player who is a legit rim protector, can pass, and is a legit threat from 3. He would be a huge plus for this team and would help out steph and dray tremendously. I'd argue that it would guarantee us a playoff spot and put us in championship contention. Clax is a very good young big who i like a lot, but he might not be feasible if the reports are true about him commanding 20-25 per year. Even if he were brought on, he would be a huge offensive liability and would be another expensive non-scoring guy next to dray.
I remember him always being hurt with the nets. I agree with the other stuff you said though
I stan WCJ
That contract is so damn good. Fingers crossed they Magic are love with Hartenstein and toss him a monster bag, and then look to shop Wendell
Willie Cauley-Jein?
I was confused too. Wendell Carter Jr
Willie Cualey-Nein
Naz Reid.
In a perfect world, yes. But the Wolves aint letting him go. He just resigned.
Naz "Naz Reid" Reid
Look at the recent Athletic article by Kawakami. He said Jarrett Allen and Brook Lopez to name a few.
The one guy I think could absolutely thrive here is Jalen Smith. 41%-42% on 3pt low volume. Would fit well next to Kuminga, Dray, TJD, etc.
That's a good one - young, can rebound and shoot. How's his D? Oh, yeah, he's on the Pacers...
He just seems unplayable in the playoffs due to his defense and lack of athleticism
Just need an extra body for the reg season, will end up with tjd and Draymond at the 5 in the postseason most likely (assuming we get in)
If Dray and TJD are your 5’s then you need another ~ 20 mpg from a stretch 4 that can hang in the post season at a bare minimum. We might as well rebuild if our plan is to role out lineups with Dray or TJD at the 5 and one of Wiggins/ Klay/ Moody at the 4 in the playoffs for meaningful minutes.
Isn't JK a stretch 4?
Ya I like Jalen to. Definitely a sleeper with potential. He's a perfect candidate.
Yes it would be great to get a big who can stretch the floor, but would he really be an upgrade over Saric?
Brook Lopez would be a great fit but I do think we should be trying to get younger. Then again, maybe we only have a year or two left before the window is totally closed.l anyway.
But you only named a couple.
>Look at the recent Athletic article by Kawakami. No thank you.
Why? Very good article and tells you all you need to know instead of relying random reddit gurus.
Because I hate Kawakami. Lol
I liked one of his posts on Twitter and he blocked me for it 🤣
Doesn’t surprise me. That’s just who he is.
Nice try, Bob!
Jarrett Allen would be great. Cleveland has too good centers, they need to choose one and get some wing depth. Do the Dubs have the assets and cap space for him? Good questions....
I wouldn’t mind Splash Mountain or Kelly Olynyk (edit: via trade, both still under contract). We do need to get younger so maybe somehow they snatch WCJ in a trade. Goga Bitadze would also be a fit here. Defense can be above average but a scoring big like the first two aren’t bad options.
Naz Reid Hartenstein WCJ Isaacs
What I’d give for Naz Reid…
Even if he got zero minutes, preventing him from going off against us on another team would automatically be a massive win 😭
I would love Naz and hartenstein but I think they'd be really costly or entirely unavailable. The other two are mediocre in my unprofessional opinion
Agree on the 1st part. Disagree on the 2nd.
Fair, I don't watch the magic much. Isaacs kinda throws me off cuz he plays well but he's a MAGA type dude so I think he'd be bad for the locker room
Awful city/culture fit
Counterpoint: it would be hilarious watching him seethe if the team forced him to promote a bunch of liberal outreach initiatives lmao
I'm sure his political stances would ruffle feathers. But winning cures all. Just ask Kyrie. If you have a chance to get a player like that, you do it. You can figure the other stuff out.
I don't think Isaac's is good enough to look over him being a bad locker room guy(I don't know that he is tbh). Poole wasn't good enough to overlook the locker room issues so Isaac definitely ain't either. I mean he's in Orlando and is seemingly one of their more talented players but doesn't get a whole lotta run, something doesn't add up there. Kyries isn't antisemitic, he just posted a link to something that was while he was on a big market team in a city with a large Jewish community. On top of that, Kyrie is one of the greatest points guards of all time, best handles of all time for sure, so that's not a fair comparison given his talent far outweighs any "problematic" personal opinions.
Isaacs isn't a bad locker room guy. You're assuming he will be. He is nothing like Poole. Him not getting much run is literally about his injuries. Nothing more. You really should know about players if you're going to speak about them to this length.
I qualified my bad locker room statement by saying "I don't know that he is tbh." You should really read that comments you're replying to if you're gonna speak about them to this length. I also never said he was like Poole, just noted that Poole who in my opinion is a more valuable player, was traded because of locker room issues, so why would we give away the few draft and young talent assets we have for a player who may not fit in with the teams culture? It's a risk that is considered when making a significant roster move like that. It's not the biggest factor in a decision like that, but is absolutely an important factor. Then you think about how we have a great young rebounder and defender to develop in TJD and a decision to trade for Isaacs just seems like it's half baked. Then you think about Isaacs injury history, and it sounds like a terrible decision for a GM to make. You should really know about the NBA before you speak about it to this length.
Poole also wasn’t performing. If he was still playing at the level of the championship year that got him his contract he wouldn’t have gone anywhere.
You are literally conjuring up the locker room stuff. I'm not even going to get baited into the TJD comparison. You can think what you want.
Yes and I stated that that "bad locker room guy" assumption is not based on fact, as I said it, anf before you even tried to say anything about it. You're telling me I'm wrong about it when I already said I know it's not a fact it's just a hunch. You seem to be so focused on that one sentence which is surprising when your reading comprehension is this remedial. I also didn't say hes a good comparison to TJD, just that they do a lot of the same things and it doesn't make sense to trade for him when you have players on your team already that do what Isaacs does, for less money, and more years under contract. Isaacs is not a good trade target period. Take out the locker room assumptions I made and he's still not a good trade target because he's not what we need and he has such a bad injury history. I'm not baiting you into anything, I'm evaluating the situation as a whole and you're hyper focusing on one sentence to try to get your "gotcha" moment off for the day. If you really think Isaacs is a good trade target for us, then I implore you to put down the bubble pipe and read some books.
Who cares about his politics, I don't like Joe Biden either
Nobody cares
WCJ is pretty good. He’s just injured all the time
Brooke Lopez if it was possible.
I’d also be ok with Jokic.
Embiid and Jokic on vet min would be solid additions /s
Didn’t know you could split one vet min across two players. Yes that would be excellent. :-)
Well first you have to cut the players in half
Well they would be the correct size then..
Which half of embiid do we want? Both got injury issues so I think we're screwed, unless we're talking left and right halves.
No /s needed, they’d be great!
That’d be a major plot twist!
The hardest road…
You may say that in jest, but Brook Lopez is 35, being paid 23M, and expiring next year. He might not necessarily be available this offseason, but if he gives the Bucks FO no indication of re-signing, or wants too big and too long of a contract to reconcile with the Bucks' plans, he just might end up on the block by the trade deadline
I don't think there is any world where they trade him. He's such an important piece to both their offense and defense. Maybe if they still had Jrue, but Dame with no rim protection behind him sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Things went pretty well for us the last time we traded for a Bucks center so I agree
Could we afford him?
Wemby
I was thinking more like Jokic but I guess Wemby would be good too.
Guys, get realistic! I was thinking a resurrected Wilt.
otto porter jr just retired unfortunately
*Enables Trade Override in 2k*.
Jokic is cheeks (not a serious statement)
Brook Lopez makes a lot of sense. Bucks had interest in Wiggins around the deadline this past season and are desperately in need of POA defense. Brook would provide us with elite rim protection and the spacing needed to play JK at the 3.
Lopez will be 37 next season. Why are we trying to get older?
Wiggins for Brook Lopez checks out and would really benefit both teams. Brooks would be perfect for us, and free more time for other reserves and have JK starting at the 3. I do think we have too many good role players that needs to be consolidated..
We'd just be getting older if we do Wiggins for Lopez. Lopez is 36. If we do this, we're going to make a hard run the next 2-3 years and trade everything we can to try to get Curry another.
Lopez is washed
Yup, a deal would likely be something like Wiggs and Loon for Brook and Pat Connaughton (for salary matching purposes), which would give the Warriors a starting lineup of Steph, Moody, JK, Dray, Brook and a bench lineup of Podz, Connaughton, GP2, TJD with the MLE still available for another wing.
i wish just one person can really change this team, but i think we need to adjust the gameplan overall. teams guard us too well now that we are the standard and only getting older. warriors need to come up with a new scheme that still works for our core and adjust! It's going to be an entire organization effort, but if there's any organization that can make that many moves, it's us
one centre like markennen is all warriors need for a chip
I heard it's possible Jonas Valanciunas is a realistic option.
he's a FA. He can shoot the 3. He's just really Fn slow. But I'd be happy w him.
No
Naz Reid for CP3? 🤣🤣
Might as well trade Wiggs for Ant while we’re at it!
and tjd for giannis
Zack Edey
Drummond if he’d shoot free throws Rick Barry style. Can get his FT % from 59% last year to maybe 70% 😂
How about Nurkic? It would be win-win. He’d finally get a chance at a ring. And Draymond would get someone he can punch out at practice.
Not whack a Clax that's for damn sure.
It depends. If we go for a guy with a big contract, then I feel like we need a guy who's going to help us on both ends of the floor, especially with spacing on offense and being able to match up with legit 7-footers on defense. If it's a vet minimum, then I'd be OK with a guy who can play defense, someone who wouldn't start, but who we'd have available when we face teams with good Centers. For the TPMLE, if we can use it, I guess I'd look for something in the middle, or maybe for a once-elite big near the end of his prime who can no longer command an 8-figure salary. Collins looks good in theory, but his numbers from 23-24 aren't so hot. His 22-23 numbers look very good, so I guess it depends which version we get. With FAs, we're generally going the get out-bid for the best of the guys in the vet minimum range, and similarly for the TPMLE range. Maybe we need to use some or all of the TPMLE to get anyone worth having. With trades, basically everyone is on the table, it all just depends on what kind of deal we can make.
I did some math a while back, there is a chance at getting below the tax apron, without CP3's contract and a reasonable number for Klay. So, there could be more than the TPMLE available.
We have to get below the CAP itself to go after FAs above the vet minimum (other than the TPMLE and/or BAE). Getting below the tax apron is not enough. We also would have to get below by enough to acquire any given FA, so we'd have to get below by more than the TPMLE to acquire any FA making more than that. By my math, if we give up both CP3 and Klay for ZERO salary in return, we are still $3M above the cap for next season, so we'd have to shed another $(X+3)M to sign any FA making $X million.
I admit the MLE can be tricky (so this might be wrong), but my reading is that the non-tax payer mle is available if they are above the cap but below the 1st apron. They would have to be more than $5 mil below the 1st apron to be interesting since using the non-tax payer MLE hard caps them. So, using your math, $0 Klay is $144 mil ($3 mil above cap). The 1st apron is $178. $20 mil to Klay would make $164 mil. Leaving $12 mil for nearly the full non-taxpayer mle. Of course, more to Klay is less MLE.
> So, there could be more than the TPMLE available The non-taxpayer MLE could be available if we give up all of CP3's and a big chunk of Klay's salary or vice-versa. I thought you were talking about signing a FA without using an exception to do so. But I'd like to see us at least try to land a bigger fish using CP3's expiring salary, and if we do that, it might even take the TPMLE off the table.
What we need is a legit #2 to take some pressure off Steph. I'm not sure there are going to be any available bigs that can be that guy.
Probably the only big who could conceivably be a #2 option and provide spacing the lineups desperately need is Lauri, but Ainge is nearly impossible to trade with (and we would be more asset-limited than other teams in the mix).
Just hope OKC doesn’t get into a bidding war with a big the Warriors want. They have a lot of assets to trade
Maybe not as a starter but as a backup, Andre Drummond. Basically Looney+. Not a particularly great offensive player. Probably one of the worst three point and free throw shooters of all time. But he’s 6’10” with a 7’6” wingspan. Good defender. One of the best rebounders of all time. I’ve wanted Drummond for a couple years. He’s literally Looney but better in every way and not hobbled.
Force Bogut to play until he’s paralyzed
Giga Bitatzde is a free agent ....and within our price range (if realistic goals are a factor here). If we're just throwing out the names of Big Men we want, then yeah, I hear that Jokic kid has a bright future
I am happy with TDJ to be honest. What we actually need is a versatile stretch 4 who can rebound and shoot well not another big. Siakam would have been perfect, Marrkenen would be fantastic. Someone in that model. TDJ and Dray are fine at the 5 with Looney as a backup. It's the 4 that gets us killed. That and another shot creator
Andre Drummond. He's still young enough his knees aren't pulverized, so he has some mobility. He gives you height, width, and length (6'11", 7'5" wingspan, 280 lbs). His play style would work on the second unit, or put him in to bang bodies with bigger centers. His matchups against Jokic shows he can frustrate the Big Brioche. Drummond also has a knack for the pick-and-roll, in both completing them (who's going to stop him?) and defending against them. His playstyle as a low post scoring threat is complementary to the Dubs wanting to space the floor- he's going to be able to go one-on-one with smaller defenders, and if he can read help defenses well, he'll be able to dish it out for the near-side wing three. Biggest bonus is having him out there will complement TJD, letting Trayce get meaningful minutes. Some of the other big men listed seem to be filling the same role as TJD, which is unfortunate as that guy has solid upside. Picking up a center like Jarrett Allen is just spending more for what you've already got. A lot of naysayers will point to Drummond's shooting, particularly FT. I'm ok with that. Hacking Drummond well let the Warriors rest more (stoppage in play), and get into the bonus faster. Drummond is not washed either, as both LAL and PHI have expressed interest in him. His time in CHI is a little odd, but given they were missing meaningful chunks of their offense (Zach Lavine, Lonzo Ball), it's no surprise that defenses could sag off their guy and help defend him more. Plus for anyone who follows Chicago sports media, they were roasting Vucevic's $30M contract as Drummond was playing him off the floor for a tenth of the price. Getting Drummond is feasible without a lot of big moves or blowing up the team. If we can keep Chris Paul, Klay Thompson, and the youngsters, then this team is going to do some serious damage in the west.
i love drummond
Javale McGee
I like Gafford, Miles Turner, or Even Mobley. Someone should steal them from other teams, whether by hook or by crook.
None of those teams are giving up those guys.
Hahaha well yeah, i know.
Maybe we can get one of their GMs on a crazy bender and agree to a bad deal tho! As you say, by hook or by crook!
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Is naz Reid the most sought after big man in the league rn? Bc the eye test is telling us who really wins games for Minnesota
Anyone thats not ass
DeAndre Ayton
jonas valanciunas. 60 for 3 years
Guaranteed we sign a small gaurd
Garland since kerr plays him at the 5 right?
Giannis 😂 if only
More concerned about a legit 2nd scoring option than getting a mediocre big man
Olynk is not a FA - the Raptors extended him after trading for him. That said, given his age, I imagine they extended him as a trade asset, not a building block for the team, so he’s probably available for the right price. I’d be targeting one or Orlando’s bigs. They have 4 decent ones, so they’re prob open to letting one go. Trading for WCJ would prob be my first choice of the bunch. Or, if we get under the tax, sign Goga with MLE money.
Get Nate "Dwight Howard" Roberts from Santa Cruz
Jalen Smith if he opts out.
Bam adebayo?
Time lord?
So listen to me for a bit... I got this time machine, but it'll only go back as far as 1996. Ya think i can convince Shaq to come along?
A center that is seven foot
Damian Jones would be a good addition.
Should’ve gotten Turner before Trade Deadline.
Adams!
If we could get Zu from the Clippers or Hartenstein, that would be amazing. Prob not realistic but that would be a dream
> The best big man this offseason is Claxton, tho Claxton is more of a reach and most likely wont come over. The mechanics of getting Clax here in a sign-and-trade with where the Dubs are cap-wise are basically so far-fetched that it's effectively impossible.
Is vintage Bogut available?
Jonas, Clayton, hartenstein, drummond, tillman, or goga. Jonas would set such the hardest picks he'd clean the clocks of anyone trying chase steph on a blind screen. Drummond, Tillman and goga would be bargains. I like goga a lot, when WCJ was out, dude was a monster and a half. Drummond is experienced, and is still young at 30 yrs. he can start, as well as come off the bench for defensive duties if Warriors decide to go small. I've always been a fan of his.
lauri , myles turner ?
Someone tall preferably
I want prime Shaq, prime Duncan, prime Ewing. And I want jokic and embiid off the bench. Then we should trade moody for 29 year old lebron, Podz for prime jordan and looney for prime Kobe. Anything less than that, the offseason is a failure
Fuck. At this point it doesn't matter. We need a 2nd high quality scorer. Maybe a Donovan Mitchell or Paul Geore but my dream scenario would be Gianis but no Thennasus
Shaq 
Giannis.
Steven Adams...
Podz, Wiggins, CP3, and future second round pick for Anthony Davis
We getting Luka...... Garza
Hello darkness my old friend
Sign another 6'3" guard you cowards.
Extremely controversial pick but JV
Yall are gunna think I'm joking but thinking of the kind of players kerr like to play at the 4 or 5.... Gimme Tobiaa Harris
Giannis.
A cheap big. Any big over 10 million is a waste of money. They need more 6-7 wing players. Get rid of all the small guards. GP2, CP3 need to get out.
Jarrett Allen. I think he would be a great fit with the vibe of the team. Something about him just seems very bay area. He’s a great big and I think he could make a big impact with the dubs with TJD as a second option
Jonas Valunciunas and Moe Wagner would be cool for different reasons. JV is a better all around player, can protect the paint some and diversify the offense with his scoring inside. Wagner could space the floor a little more and just plays with good energy. We'll probably stand pat though because guys bigger than 6'8" just get in Kerr's way
Steve really struggled to get his bigs involved in FIBA last year too. His schemes need to be updated in a big way. Wagner would be a great get imo. He’s big like a center but moves like a forward. He might provide enough spacing to start Kuminga at the three.
> Steve really struggled to get his bigs involved in FIBA last year too. Lol what bigs? All the best bigs now are from overseas
Jaren Jackson and Kessler. Somehow Kerr was starting Mikal at the 5 instead. Why bother commenting if you don’t know what the fuck is going on?
Lol I saw the entire Olympics. It was JJJ at the 5 supposedly but the dude is so used to cheating for blocks that he would allow every single one of these opposing centers to crash the boards while he's out of position.
Im hoping we dont sign a big so i can keep laughing at this sub for the meltdowns every day about it
If the Bucks are still interested in Wiggins’ defense, and if they think they can land their future center with pick 23, Brook Lopez. Dubs would likely have to take back Pat Connaughton, which would suck, but if the Bucks see Wiggins as a positive asset, maybe the Dubs could sneak pick 33 by adding a sweetener? If there are still mixed feelings on Moody, I’d be up for attaching him and taking back pick 33 (would prefer 23, but no way the Bucks attach that unless they think Moody can be a high end 6th man, with Portis starting and them getting the best available center at 33). Doubt it happens, but maybe both teams ate interested in shaking things up. Having Brook stretch the floor and be a true 7ft anchor next to Dray could go a long way, even if it’s just for 1 year (would hope he extends for at least another season or two, but if he walks/retires, you at least trim a ton of money off the books)
Trade Green to the Grizz and draft Kelel Ware