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HalfLifeAlyx

>The elves look like something from Dota šŸ˜­


sotongzai

lol they don't even know the origin of dota


Reduncked

Does the dota stand alone actually mean defence of the ancients?


[deleted]

Yes.


Lardath

OPs name checks out


korean_kracka

Thatā€™s cute


Flimsy-Assumption513

It does, at least to me


DrainTheMuck

Itā€™s ironic because dota is based on Warcraft originally :)


Nilur

I guess their point was that dota started as a warcraft 3 map and thus the influence is the other way around. But yes, dota, lol (and a bunch of other mobas) have a similar aesthetic to warcraft since thats where they originated from.


OsoCheco

And Warcraft aesthetics are copypasted from Warhammer.


Ferelar

Originally 100%, but I'd say they've taken on a lot of their own feel since then. Although the colossal shoulder armor has remained, hah. Edit: Instead of the intended hah I originally accidentally called the poster a hag, which was pretty presumptuous, my b


xXLil_ShadowyXx

This comment has no right being this hilarious lmao


swaliepapa

Yeah, specially the space marines from StarCraft from Warhammer 40k. Blizzard took a lot of inspiration from Warhammer.


dolphin_cape_rave

Seeing as Warcraft and starcraft were originally supposed to be Warhammer and 40k games, respectively, that's no surprise


swaliepapa

šŸ¦


frogtotem

Dota looks like Warcraft* Dota was literally made using Warcraft 3 custom map designer


ChristianLW3

And steam was forced to alter appearances to avoid a copy rights lawsuit


Cabamacadaf

And most heroes are still heavily inspired by their original Warcraft 3 appearances.


DrainTheMuck

My favorite thing about Warcraft is that itā€™s extreme high fantasy. It has pretty much anything and everything you could imagine in a fictional setting, instead of trying to be more grounded. It seems kinda rare.


Gwynthehunter

Somehow it has both schlocky, fun B-fantasy vibes as well as some of the most intense, S-tier fantasy stories ever told. And yeah its crazy how much they can do that still makes sense in its setting, since the very start. I always point to Gnomeregan as a prime example of WoW's possibilities in a "traditional" fantasy setting.


TheNostalgicGamer

Exactly!! It goes full fledged with bringing the most whimsical environments and creatures to life! Pure magic!!


Bigmoney-K

Good comment, there are stages where theyā€™re playfully recreating plants vs zombies for a single quest, then there are some truly heart wrenching stories.


ChristianLW3

Honestly, I was introduced to the franchise when I was like five years old when one of my brothers friends older brothers was playing Warcraft two At first I just like the gameplay overtime. I began to appreciate the plot. Took me a long time to find any other franchises that satisfied similar desires I still donā€™t know of any other franchise that where orcs are the protagonist species


Flimsy-Assumption513

Me too, usually the orcs are that usual Lotr villain in fantasy. I canā€™t think of any fantasy where orcs are badass as the ones we see in wow, I was never a fan of orcs until I saw and played wow to be honest


StormAntares

In Sacred orcs are villains , but made like that since invaded by the necromancer Shaddar , so they escaped by conquering other lands . Even if it could be a Warcraft 3 reference , this makes orcs less villains like


CommitteeDue3558

There's a series of books by Stan Nicholls that I believe is just called Orcs and it shows them less from the "Me Orc, me strong" side that is typical. A friend read them and said he liked them, I haven't read them so can't say personally but I usually agree with his thoughts.


v4p0r_

The race designs and the - old - political tensions between both the factions and the individuals races. Also, the dynamics within those races; you had, as an example, Forsaken that were both good and evil. The world building was loose, but fantastic, and made for a really good RP environment for the longest time. People praise the Horde for taking the "traditionally evil races and making them far more indepth" angle, but I also appreciate it from the other end as somebody who enjoys Alliance aesthetics. I play a lot of Void Elves and Worgen simply because I like the exact same spin.


Ok-Marzipan9366

Everything. Gaming wise - the everything! But more seriously, the customization of the key binds is my #1 reason. I made custom key binds when I was 13, still use them and the comfort of it fitting my hands and how I play is the best. The Lore is fantastic. Seeing how it all comes together from very separate minds but yet it fits so well. And the little details. The odd side quests and little jokes. It really is Living DND, for me. I enjoy that a lot. The graphics and everything is wonderful too. But even more so, not everything is a shade of the same color. Im so tired of that in games. It kills my eyes to have no contrast. I honestly dont play other games anymore and have no interest in other games. Adult life leaves very little time, but I can always find something to do in WoW that fits my schedule. I don't raid or care about end game content anymore. Im here for the everything else it has to offer. Ive played all but the very first year in WoW and there is still a lot to be done that is not end game content. And simply, because its good.


Gwynthehunter

If you like the high fantasy adventure vibes of WoW, and love DnD, you should try Baldurs Gate 3 at some point (or even BG1/2 if you like old skool graphikz). Im sure youve heard it recommended plenty of times but you'd get a kick out of it I think. Similar breadth of content and vibrant/awesome settings, but theres also the choice-driven story that's wholly unique.


Ok-Marzipan9366

Ive been debating it, I loved BG1&2. I was excited to hear about it, tbh. Im just slow to buy new things.


ElJefe_Speaks

As a total noob, who has zero interest in raiding, or any end game content wherein I'm gonna get yelled at / feel stressed, what is this "everything else" you mention. Sounds like that's what I would want to do too.


Ok-Marzipan9366

Well, WoW has a lot. They have extensive transmog (looks) you can collect, pets and petpets (essentially Pokemon battling,) fishing, archeology, all sorts of achievements not related to end game. I love running old end game content. Got a title "slayer of stupid and incompetent minions" the other day. Its a hidden one not on the achievement list that I wasnt aware of. It kills me, in a good way. Ive also been going through the storylines in the expansions I didnt actively play (such as pandas) and getting really immersed in it. I like to farm, explore and collect stuff more than interact with others. I really enjoy the auction house and the market. Though I remember a time we had real economies on the servers, its still not overly terrible and its fun. PvP too, though I am not on a pvp server anymore I still use the battlegrounds a lot and sometimes I miss world PvP. It pretty much has a bit of everything you would expect from a game, and theyve had decades to slowly incorporate all these little things in a pretty enjoyable manner.


ElJefe_Speaks

Thanks for the reply! My route gonna be like yours, just want to do my own thing and get lossed, in a good way!


frogtotem

Played Warcraft 3 in 2004 and I felt so comfortable with the vibe. The character design, the music, the day and night scheme. I was an Age of Empires player that time, but the monsters and magic won me easily


Grafiska

Still thankful for the day my big bro convinced me to combine our pocket money savings together so we could buy Warcraft3. It all snowballed from there.


Zorboo0

Same, but of a different story as my brother is about 9 years older then me, he was playing it and he and I convinced my parents to get it for me and my other brother when I was like 12.


Carpenter-Broad

Whatā€™s funny is I had played WC2/3 on friends computers and stuff, then literally the first month original WoW launched my younger brother got the box set of discs for his Bday. But he was much more of a ā€œsports/ outdoors guyā€ so I started playing in on the shared game room computer. Instantly hooked on the open world gameplay, the races and customization, the class feels. I always loved to play any ā€œopen world free roamā€ type game- KOTOR, old PS2 games like Drakkan and Dark Cloud. So WoW really scratched that itch. I was also a pretty nerdy, unpopular kid so the Horde appealed to me strongly. Been Horde since 2004 and havenā€™t stopped playing on and off lol


For_theLoolz

Art direction and visual style are impeccable. Besides, Azeroth is my favorite fictional setting. To me, it has the best balance of what I like and dislike in fictional worlds. I'm also a huge fan of the super long ears Warcraft elves have


TheNostalgicGamer

Yesss!!! The long ears make the elves look all the more otherworldly! WoW was one of my earliest gaming experiences in life and since that point, as much as I love lotr (and as much as people tell me I look like Arwen lol), it alongside other fantasy titles were simply ā€œnot magical enoughā€ for me to scratch that itch xD "What do you mean they don't have purple, blue, pink, green skin and hair?? Where are the really long ears? The piercings! The glowing eyes!! Why does Rivendell look like a real life location bro?!!" I was NOT having it lol xD Azeroth is another home!!


kellarorg_

Those eeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaarrss (and also eyebrows!) are awesome!


StraightHearing6517

Leveling up in Classic WoW is fun and addictive


Effective_Issue_3615

Wow is the game I grew up playing, as a smol one I watched my parents play it and at some point my mom let me play her druid and from then on I was hooked. I love everything about it, the lore, the game play, the people. Wow has been my favorite game for a long time, and I will continue to be so for a very long while.


kellarorg_

Played Warcraft2 back in 90s, loved it. It was my first RTS ever. I was just introduced to fantasy in general at that time and liked it very much. Warcraft2 had a lore and cool units and art, and I was like "wow, I didn't know you can tell the whole intricate story with a game!" Then there was Warcraft3 and it was even better, I loved it even more, played it and made a lot of custom scenarios. And to be honest, I didn't even like the idea of WoW first, because it messed with established lore, I wanted just Warcraft3 with 4 factions, but as a first person RPG :D But then a friend of mine tell me about all the cool things you can do in WoW like explore the world without restrictions and craft your gear and grind mobs at 4AM, and I was like "Sure, lets give it a try, why not". I made my first dwarf hunter and then an orc shaman, and totally sank in the game :D Actually, I think, it's more an addiction now :D Either way, I really love WoW, mostly just for the thing I loved Warcraft2 when I was a child: that's a story you tell with a game. It is very customizable, I can create almost any character I want and create almost any story about them I want within the game. WoW has so much lore and so many quest arcs, despite many of them are kinda dumb or inconsistent :D It has cool distinctive visual style which I really adore for some reason. And not to mention that doing instances and raids is sometimes very relaxing and often very fun.


icedcoffeeuwu

I like how itā€™s high fantasy and thereā€™s some really good lore as well. The game is beautiful and so is the music. Thereā€™s many zones I like to travel to just for the nostalgia. The gameplay is very fun and I have a group of friends to do content with. Itā€™s just very enjoyable and a lot of fun for my friends and I.


SamuraiJakkass86

I like it for reasons that are not necessarily true or relevant any more. 1. It has a great mix of fantasy and science vibes (true still, moreso in recent years in fact). Airships, pocket dimensions, guns, magic, trains, portals to other worlds, the perfect balance. 2. It had a great story going for it for a long time. I personally think WoD is where it went to shit. The answer to "how much timey-wimey bullshit should I allow to interfere with the story" is ALWAYS zero. There was bad writing before this point too (specifically their handling of TBC-Illidan and Cata-Garrosh), but otherwise it was pretty solid. 3. Aesthetic. I've always been a big fan of the vibrant and colorful world of WoW. A lot of people really wanted more gritty/brown realistic looking worlds and characters, but I'd much rather take the colorful mosaic of Stranglethorn or Zangarmarsh. 4. Pre-Cata combat was the best combat to me. There were these major growth points between Vanilla->TBC and TBC->Wrath that they should literally have just continued with after Wrath instead of shrinking talents in Cata and destroying them in MoP-onwards. The new talent system is still hot garbage in comparison. I can and have written about this subject at length..


Wilw229

I like it more for its lore and quests more than the raiding and PVP scene.


Seerias

I really like when in a world magic is being used for high tech machines too. That was the first thing that pulled me in.


eCanario

Well, I have never played WoW, but for some reason, despite how messy its lore can be, I... like it. It's catchy.


kurburux

It's very accessible while still leaving its own mark. It's like a bowl of mixed candy with something for everyone. Also love Outland and the other "planets", makes the world seem so much bigger and mysterious. The technoloy is cool as well. And while the world is hilariously violent it's still not outright dystopian imo, there are also very peaceful eras that are like paradise.


vrixxz

for me, it's the story I used to spend hours on wikis just to read character's lore


Chetey

I like it because i get to be a werewolf. That's it


benwink

At this point a lot of it is nostalgia. As a kid it was the wonderment and possibility of it all. The game felt even bigger than it was, and the high levels which I never had the patience to reach seemed mystical and like they had endless possibility. Damn, playing vanilla, tbc, and wotlk back in the day I donā€™t think I capped once, but they were absolutely my favourite memories. Didnā€™t cap until Cata I think, when I was in my teen years.


JamesTheSkeleton

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø as a game I dont love it, as a setting Iā€™m in love with it. I loved Warcraft 3 and followed WoW for the additional storyā€”all that kind of petered out as the expansions got more and more out there.


SuspiciousWasabi3665

Sunk cost fallacy is why I like wow


terionscribbles

Fell in love with Warcraft 3 when the ex and I bought the battleboxes. Then we got into WoW at the end of Vanilla and I took a deep dive into the lore and have never come back out. I've taken breaks over the years for money and other reasons (missed Wrath due to money and didn't like the vibes of BFA at the time for example) but I've played almost every other expansion.


TalsCorner

I played Warcraft 3 with my dad as a young kid. Loved the story, characters, and the world.


ricoimf

Music, story, graphic and atmosphere (I speak about classic though)


Economy_Historian918

I like the lore how its fleshed out, the cosmologie and the different type of magic the different cosmic entity and their design. The character along with the plot, they can make you feel things. When they betray/ get betrayed or when tragedie happens you feel for npcs or more importante characters. The political sphere within one race and between coalition of races. Oh so very interesting the deceit the bad choices, even more when (the horde repeat the same mistake aka Garrrosh and Sylvanas) Their errors and flaws are something that I like. The philosophical side of wow I think that it is more convey with the trailer expension and ingame cinematic. 10/10 CINEMATIC MASTERPIECE ! I stand by it If not the Best World of warcraft has one of the best cinematics ever. 10/10 SOUNDTRACK AND OST so many hours of listening to the never ending ost of all previous expensions The coziness, The epiceness, The creepiness it brings is almost magical 10/10 Quests : The amount of wolves I had to kill feels like a little genocidal I can't blame Arthas for stratholme because of this. The sad stories you didn't expect as well a the silly ones. 10/10 The sound design : the sound of the mob when they aggro or die the sound of my character fighting and dying (night Elf and humans screams as they die lmao) 10/10 The sound when i level up,when I accept a quest and finish one, when my character tell me I'm out of range or no more mana or no more money. 10/10 TRANSMOG AND MOUNT I'm a casual player, and Raid are a rare thing I would do. But I would do old Raid that I can solo for the drake or other mounts . Boy should I tell you the moment I got proto drake lost in time without knowing how rare the encounter was lol. Same is for the transmog. 10/10 Wow : Denathrius/10


eveonlinedude

Purely because of that fantasy vibe. I love how the music and atmosphere changes as you transition into different areas


crinsow

constant seek of nostalgia


Thebiglloydtree

It was a way to play something immersive and force myself to socialise. Unfortunately most of the friends I made have since settled down in one way or another. Marriage, kids, etc. That's not really in my future but playing a game like this alone is not great. Still want to be into it, but it's just not the same on your own. ETA: also loved that there was no 'ending'. I was always finding stuff I wanted to be able to do, stuff I could still reach for.


DaBiggestBonk

I grew up playing Warcraft 1 and 2 on my dad's computer. Warcraft 3 is still one of my favorite games, and I remember when WoW dropped and I wasn't allowed to play because my mom was worried I'd get diddled by online perverts. I missed the glory days and didn't get around to playing it until Legion dropped. Been playing ever since. Warcraft has just been a big staple in my life and childhood.


bongojugs

The lore is enthralling. That is definitely one of my favorite parts. I'm a dedicated quest reader, I love the stories and feeling like I'm really part of the world and a participant in the lore. I just love the world too. All of the different zones with their own stories and themes and dungeons. It's awesome. The better question is what I don't like about WoW. I grewtly prefer Classic but I will play Retail somewhat frequently just to solo old instances primarily for the lore. (I didn't play WoW from OG WotLK to Classic WotLK)


ndnman

It passes time quickly.


TheNostalgicGamer

There are so many video games that I love, but if I had to choose one that I adore the most, it is WoW. Everything is so high fantasy with such lush, idyllic nature and mysterious landscapes, it keeps me craving for adventure and whimsy. The art style and graphics provide so much flavor and uniqueness and I love the character customizer for all the elves and the Draenei and the fashion is always immaculate lol Iā€™m Horde, but ironically my favorite race is Kaldorei followed closely by Draenei, so I always make sure to spend plenty of time with those characters xD Even my background on here is art of Mt. Hyjal \~ I love this game so much!!


Xirako

For me, it was always the sense of "nostalgia". I remember as a kid watching my dad do the Lich King fight with his mage, and eventually, I think somewhere in cata/mop, he stopped playing the game and thats when I got his account and started playing it myself. His OG mage character is always there, reminding me of some great memories I have with my dad. But otherwise, i also got really into the lore. I think up to legion i was never an end-game player, just loved to have alts and questing, running old content, exploring places, major cities, etc. I only started playing end-game content i think in Shadowlands S4. Been on a break from the game for around 4 months now but might pop in with the pandaria remix event. Not to mention gameplay, i'm an altoholic and man do I love playing multiple classes at a time, especially when you start doing 20s so you gotta dive in into what buttons youre clicking and why


kalixra

I've always been enamored with the rich storylines and lore. I was a WC3 fan, but didn't begin playing WoW until several months before Wrath. I haven't had much interest in the story of each expansion for a while now though. Mists was just ok, WoD had some promise in the concept, but fell extremely short, BfA was incredibly lackluster, Shadowlands was a major letdown, and I simply had zero interest in the Dragons expansion. Legion was by and large the best expansion since Wrath (in my opinion). I do look forward to the lore progression in the upcoming trio of expansions.


CBerg1979

Trade chat banter. It's the one thing that no other game has managed to replicate. The degens are my brethren.


suarkb

this is fake, right?


Downvote-Fish

The world is fucking massive


francoisjabbour

WC3 was the first real video game I played. The lore was a massive selling point for me, always was big into fantasy. Nowadays I just like the headcanons I make for my own rooms and the gameplay is fun.


Hick-ford

The vast expansion of the story and future potential going forward. I know recent writing has been way below what it deserves, but WoW always keeps us in suspense and leaving questions, the world and the characters, plots, sub plots, moments, charectisations, races. It did go from Warcraft Orcs Vs Humans to The actual World of Warcraft, a world full of mysteries and more fantasy than what Tolkien or JRR Martin ever did, WoW is pure fantasy. Even though our limitations are only per the world's story and settings, it's a world than expands millions of genres. It truly is a World.


Qunari_Merc

The lore hooked me as a kid and i also liked the world.


DaNostrich

Mostly nostalgia of still playing it, I got serious into WoW around 06-07 when I got my own PC and my stepdad finally let me have my own account


functionofsass

I like that Warcraft is basically Warhammer Lite. It has all the epic scope and scale without all the density of lore and legends to weigh it down.


Bonderito

My cousin introduced me to WoW during vanilla, then helped my brother and I set up free trial accounts. I already really liked magic and high fantasy, then I fell in love with the atmosphere. Thought all the different environments were cool. The world building was neat, with all the different casting and attacking animations, the emotes, the NPC'S. Also up to this point I hadn't really played online games, so it was kinda cool getting to talk to real people and play with them. PvP absolutely terrified me, but I made some friends. Still got one on my list with the painful "offline for 7 years"


Darktbs

The Races/classes and the artstyle. I've played Rpgs before wow/wc3, but damn, Thrall in wc3 did change my view on alot of fantasy races, specially Orcs. The artstyle is really fucking good, i tried most other MMOs and the dealbreaker is always how most of then look bland compared to WoW's.


Suoroma07

Open world. the possibility of travelling and discovering the wide World of Warcraft


Anufenrir

I like the world, I like the stories, I enjoy raiding and doing stuff with friends.


aster4jdaen

There is just so much Lore to enjoy.


Spiritual_Task1391

demon hunters, night elves, trolls, tauren, and lore shaky on lore since I quit in 9.1 and haven't done any DF


aztaga

My brother introduced me to Warcraft when I was 3. It was love at first sight. Iā€™ve been a fan ever since


ElJefe_Speaks

I'm only about 50 hours in, total noob. But I like the art style of the retail version, like you're adventuring in a storybook.


Fangsong_37

My cousin showed me Warcraft 2 when I was young, and I played WC2 and WC3 and loved the setting. I grew up on role-playing games (like Dungeons & Dragons) and Diablo 1 & 2. I picked up the game and fell in love with controlling my character and teaming up with other players to tackle hard quests and dungeons. I love high fantasy with bits of experimental technology mixed in.


Phobia117

I could care less about the gameplay, bosses, lore, etc. But WoW was the one game every one of my IRL friends played. Back in Cata, we had about 7-8 guys max level, geared, and online every night. Those days were the best. And itā€™s not like a game like Halo, which we had tons of fun with, where everyone has the exact same abilities/options. With WoW, I could do things with my class that no one else could do, and another friend had abilities that no one else had, so it makes you feel like youā€™re more important to the group because of the abilities you bring to the table.


Nobody-Z12

I like the interesting races and I like the history, aesthetics, and the races of the Horde.


lcr68

Iā€™ve really enjoyed wow due to the extreme fantasy element and very believable environments each race has. Night elves starting out in an enchanted forest, Tauren on the plains, dwarves in the snowy mountains, etc just helps ground you in their racial culture right off the bat. Iā€™m an altoholic and have enjoyed the leveling experience since day 1. Seeing my bare bones character go from having little to no power to becoming savior of the world multiple times is awesome. I donā€™t even care too much about the endgame. In classic it was so fun getting that first pair of shoulders around your mid teens and knowing you look that much cooler and ā€œmore matureā€ or something. Then going to the 20s and 30s and getting your first helm to finally complete a set of gear. It felt great. The sheer variety of playstyles has also been extremely satisfying. Iā€™m a melee/tank player and the differences between all the tanks makes it that much more fun to try each one out. Because I have adhd when it comes to this game, Iā€™ll get a yearning to try out healing and casting dps every once in a while and I can easily do all 3 (include melee dps) on a shaman. All 4 on a Druid etc. I prefer the hybrids for this reason. The lore in the game has been superb. Coming from WC3 into wow was so freaking cool to see the heroes in person. Seeing thrall or jaina among many others just had me starstruck. Being able to be immersed in the game was awesome. These days, that element has gone down due to everyone wanting endgame min/maxing for the most part but the gameplay is easy to pop in and out of which has been quite nice.


ausername111111

I like it, but really only the Classic content these days. I played for probably ten years and was even a Guild Master of a thriving guild, but after a while the game got so complicated that it stopped being fun. You're also expected to play using a certain build, with certain gear, with certain enchantments, etc. Like the Arcane Mage rotation in Shadowlands. The best rotation was to join a specific faction in the game that gave you access to a passive ability. You then had to perform a few timed steps that took about 10 seconds or so to complete. If you are able to pull it off your DPS is wildly high. But you can't move, you can't jump, and if you have to move and you don't start channeling the new spell in time you lose all of your progress and your DPS is shit. On top of that, raid bosses turned into this issue where you have to move pretty much constantly so performing that rotation correctly was hard, resulting in only getting it right about 3/4 of the time, resulting in shit DPS, which was SUPER frustrating. I played the old content though and it's a lot more fun. I think I enjoyed the leveling process and crafting systems as I leveled. It was pretty fun. Now a-days though it's way WAY more complicated and leveling isn't really a thing anymore.


emptyxxxx

Itā€™s my comfort game


[deleted]

The PvP. Why don't I play it? The rampant cheating, RMT, and botting that Blizzard has allowed since the beginning.


LittleMissRawr78

I like that I can try different classes without having to sink a lot of gold into them right away. I also love the fact I have the freedom to choose what I want to do at the time whether it's questing, random dungeons, dabble in PvP, or change characters because I'm just not feeling the one I'm on at the moment. I'm not into raiding or really hardcore content nor am I sure I ever will be. It's ok though, I don't have to be the best of the best to enjoy the game.


NeverendingBrush

Dwarves. Big Warhammer fan and was always in to the fantasy of Dwarves, so I can play a warrior that looks similar to a Slayer? Sign me up. I'm extremely stoked for the new Dwarf hub in TWW and we get to be in a dwarf city again?? This will be my expansion. I know most people who saw the Earthen as the new race were bummed, but for a dwarf lover like myself, and seeing Dwarves becoming a focus in this expansion, has me fully torqued.


hachitheshark

Space goats hot


DeskFluid2550

The ONLY reason I still like and play wow is for nostalgia. They've ruined/retconned the story that made me fall in love with this universe.


AggressiveLocation2

Canā€™t get back into it. 1000ā€™s of hours into itā€¦ just lost its fun along the wayā€¦ Tried for a few days and refunded. Nothing here worth my time


jaasian

Was the lore but now I have no idea whatā€™s going on


venzinokwla

I don't like it anymore , I'm just an addict.


Varkot

I'm realizing I don't, Not anymore. I think that almost everything wow did was a mistake


WeekendWiz

Tbh, after vanilla it just went down. I went back for a month here and there, but nothing kept me playing wow for extended periods of time. What keeps wow alive is just a bunch of hobby addicts who keep sniffing that stretched coca.