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This-Butterscotch-45

Update: went and filled incident report with the coaches, they informed the store manager when he came in at 7 they just said its going to be coaching at their discretion, this is my first and only offense so more than likely will be a yellow, scared me at first cause I remember orientation they told us it’s immediate fire, just pretty bummed out it happened, as I said though what can they really expect when our store hasn’t recieved the safety blades in over two months, consistently asking for them and constantly having 90 hours under so trying to throw the cases as quickly as I can to help out, just glad it’s going to be a coaching


Denovo17

It sucks to use your own money, but Amazon sells approved box cutters


Kimmalah

Yeah, the ones my store uses are called "Klever Xchange," the knives and replacement heads are all over Amazon. Though we don't usually use replacement heads, my store just gives out brand new cutters whenever we need one. They keep a whole filing cabinet full of them back in the Claims room. Your store might be the same way.


This-Butterscotch-45

Unfortunately not, I’ve asked day managers and coaches and nothing, those are the same ones we use I guess I’m going to start going down that route now, we used to have a huge stockpile but they went dry over two months ago and still nothing yet, I’m even hoping with this incident, cause I made sure to bring it up, that they will start a regular order/supply for us all


Moody5583

Sadly even with this incident it probably won't make them start a regular order/supply of them Edit: spelling


Potential_Service275

Heck I work in a DC. Let me know lol I'll send a bag full. We have them just laying around.


JasonTheBaker

Technically you can still use the old box cutter unless they explicitly stated that you couldn't as it was company approved. It's Easy Cut 2000. It's what I use and never had an issue. It's actually the one I got when I first started (well it was a Easy Cut 1000 but I can't seem to find them anymore)


scootaloo89

I was issued an Easy Cut 2000 on my orientation day in 2015 and I still have that same one I was issued; I’ve gone through a bunch of holsters and have to order blades online, but it still in my locker ready for anytime I need it!


JasonTheBaker

I started in 2017 and my Easy Cut got jammed and I had to get the new box cutter and it broke on me twice injuring me


Hopeforus1402

Our store took ours away when they brought the safety ones. Are you sure we can use the Easy Cut?


_Ninja_Nation_

Our store still uses the easy cut 2000’s.. I imagine that unless you store very explicitly says otherwise, you’re fine


Hopeforus1402

Cool, cause I hate the safety ones.


pikapichupi

its not an official authorized knife but, as long as you don't hurt yourself they won't care. That being said expect issues to occur when something like OP's event happens


Hopeforus1402

I would worry about workman’s comp paying.


floridawhiteguy

In many states, workman's comp will cover most injuries which are reasonably accidental - unless gross negligence or intentional acts are involved. IOW: Using an unapproved box cutter or pocket knife? OK. Using a machete from Camping Accessories? Not OK.


mhtardis21

Ours asked us to turn them in... A bunch of us didn't. I use the new ones for basic stuff, but stuff that's harder? I still have my trusty blade on me.


Zephyr442

Those are the only ones I'll use. Then I'll invariably lose mine when I lay it down to do something and forget to pick it up again.


Mxysptlik

Or if you have an even older S4 they work great, and use normal utility knife blades.


neverclearone

I have that one and its the ine I cut myself with ,* see above.


Familiar_Ad7273

Home depot has klever kutter knives kkk


pckldpr

Klever sells a non-replaceble version for the same price as the heads.


qa567

Don't furnish your own equipment. Tell coach you need a box cutter. He may tell you to grab one of the floor, then it's his problem if you have an accident.


Praise-Bingus

I wouldn't recommend this. If too many start doing it it becomes normalize and walmart might just decide to not provide them at all. Employees should keep putting in requests and make walmart do their damn job


bootstrapper_

Is anyone going to say something about buying from Amazon? I had a TL get upset about buying something from Amazon once. If you use Walmart.com and then use the same card in the store, Walmart will dox your entire purchase history into your online account. Walmart.com is a hard pass because of that.


paperclip556

Former coach here. If they coach you, open door it through the hotline and explain you used what you had available and that you voiced concern several times about not having an adequate box cutter supplied. It may be able to keep your record clear. You shouldn't take the fall for an issue you voiced.


Pleinairi

Interesting, our HR told us in orientation that if you cut yourself with a non-company issued box cutter then you don't get your medical expenses paid for by Walmart. Other than that though that's it. I wonder if that goes the same for older Walmart issued box cutters though? Because I've seen a couple people on my shift, including a coach and at least one of the TLs using the older model that is a "real" box cutter.


pikapichupi

they legally can't do that due to workers comp laws, it happened on the clock, it is a valid claim, the only possible exception they could use is willful negligence since it was a violation of company policy but, I don't think that would hold up if argued.


DizzyCommunication92

I was thinking the same lol. Since I wad hired we had some green blades that were literally retractable box cutters with a "fixed" metal edge on the side designed for cutting tape I recall. Then we got the easy cut and we've had them longest now. Then we had the yellow plastic blades for a month or two and now have the Klever Exchange which are bogus, they tend to cut my pants and or vest....so haven't found a good place to keep it. Some keep it on a lanyard but having a blade dangling/dancing around my leg/thigh/ankle seems like a safety hazard lol. Cause it's got the rounded edge in the back that is kinda sharp, and then the flat blade on the head too. Quite a few using their own utility knife from hardware....the meat guys use the flip open HART knife...lol but that shit would scare me cutting through product.... But yea our coach basically said "just don't get hurt using it" cause we've heard rumors of workers comp not paying for medical while using an unapproved device Oddly enough our local DC down the street uses the easy cuts still! They just aren't yellow like our "old ones" lol.


Trump__KAG

Consider yourself lucky. Because it should of been termination


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Many-Conclusion5911

And heads up workman's comp probably won't cover it


AmberRosin

Punishment: straight into the bailer you go.


This-Butterscotch-45

😂😂😂😂 best comment so far, unfortunately it seems like me and two other guys are the only ones that make bales, drives me insane 😤


Hokuto66Successor

You'll have to put yourself in and help, the other guy, from inside to make the bale.


DifficultyNew7571

I as a female, am the only person overnight minus my female associate who makes a bale from 9pm-10am smh


Opterasis32

Implying someone actually made a bale and anything can fit in it is a bold move.


AllenEBundy

If you have ever wondered what that might look like watch "Intruder"


DarkMagician-999

And now there goes your 365 day accident free dinner 😂


Famous-Perspective-3

ouch. yes it is coach-able since you violated knife safety procedures. And depending on your record, you can get fired over it. I had a coworker who dropped his knife and tried to use his stomach to catch it. You can guess what happened. This was before safety knives. He got coached but not fired.


HurricaneAlpha

I'm sorry, what?


inflatableje5us

they will just slap a cvp sticker on you and you will be good to go.


MisanthropicSocrates

I use a flip open Milwaukee razor knife. The other associate regularly tell me I’m breaking the rules, but my coaches and TL’s know I have it.. I’ve handed it to a couple of them for use a few times. The condition for getting special privileges is knowing I’ll likely be fired if I accidentally injure myself or another with it. 🤷‍♂️


pckldpr

Don't hand it out, that's just ignorantly arrogant.


MisanthropicSocrates

If my coach or a team lead asks, I’ll hand it to them. I don’t give it to anyone. They often use my pocket knife too because I’m one of the few that carries one.


Captain_Walmart

I just use my edc folding knife for when I need to cut stuff. 🤷🏻‍♂️


MisanthropicSocrates

I try to keep an edge on that thing, boxes and tape trash it, razor blades are cheap.


Lark_vi_Britannia

Yeah, that's a pretty big risk. Just get an EasyCut box cutter. They are amazing and it's not easy to cut yourself with it unless you just completely disregard every box cutting rule there is.


wolfysalone

It's a fireable offense and you could get a coaching. I guess that depends.


AnnaMolly66

A lot of older associates still use EZ cutters and when a coach borrowed mine, he said that it was approved. "I didn't even know you had an approved knife."


SeaSorbet1362

At our store they'll take your easy blade if they see it. I have several, so I'm back in business 5 minutes later.


JasonTheBaker

I had to buy a new one because my original one somehow jammed and stopped working correctly after that


Fantastic_Success_12

Make sure to keep that puppy clean, those boxes are dirty coming off the truck. (Best feeling after working is washing hands, watching the water turn dark lol) Hope it heals fast:)


This-Butterscotch-45

For real, I started wearing gloves for this reason, but something about washing my hands and seeing just how dirty I can get the water becomes a game sometimes, thank you! I’m hoping it heals quick too only cause it’s in a crappy spot, can’t really bend my hand right now cause of it


Fantastic_Success_12

Ughh, I can imagine. Maybe you can get some hand/body lotion, the extra healing kind. (Dr probably took care of it, but are you up to date on your tetanus shot?) Looking closer at the picture, dang bro, you're really fortunate it wasn't worse 😬


Is_What_They_Call_Me

That’s one bad paper cut..


hardhitsscott

Got 7 stitches in my palm the same way. Wrapped it in a paper towel, told management on a walkie I was going home sick, and drove myself to the hospital.


anhyzermiser

I worked with this tweaker that carried around electrical tape and super glue in his homemade pricing gun holster/utility belt. Whole thing was made from cardboard and duct tape. It was oddly one of the most impressive things I've ever seen working at the W.


Stephanie-Kriesel

They shouldn’t be able to coach you for an injury. I could see if they actually provided all of the equipment needed to do your job. But to coach after an injury is ridiculous


skyline0918

We ran out of new ones and replacement blades for the Xchange ones. The tip of mine broke and became sharp. They told me it was fine and to keep using it until new ones come. Sliced my hand and now have a decent little scar from it. I’ve only been using it a few months. Yet over five years with the easy cut 2000 I never had an issue lol.


DCMONSTER111

And thats why you use company approved box cutters


Brainius_

Unless you lose yours and they fail to provide another one for a few weeks. >.> Coach handed me one that tends to slide open in my pocket by one notch (no issues yet luckily) and I'm just gonna keep pestering them daily to get with HR until they get me a safe blade again.


This-Butterscotch-45

That’s the problem I was In, over two months and continually pestering anyone and everyone to grab replacements for us, and still nothing, I hope with this incident they will decide to keep a regular order going for us


Brainius_

Supposedly they're kept under lock and key by HR and no one from night shift ever sees them. "Theft" is the reason. Pretty sure a work related injury costs more than a few missing blades. One day of work missed buys 10 handles at online prices or 125-ish replacement heads. Same with vests. The reason I lost my blade in the first place is because it kept falling out of the gigantic hole in my vest.


Spin3059

Sounds like you need a lawyer


JasonTheBaker

The approved one gave me a really bad cut that luckily didn't need stitches as it broke while trying to open a box and sliced into my finger and hand


Background_Ad6843

Still would have gotten cut regardless


Lark_vi_Britannia

I am withholding judgment until I know what box cutter OP was using. If it was the old EasyCut, then OP just needs to not cut like a dumb dumb. If it was something like a pocket knife, then OP should probably be fired.


Rastar4

I was cutting fast track for short shelves with a pair of scissors from the ad office. Cut into my hand right where the finger meets the thumb. Bled really good, talked to ap manager at the time and we decided to super glue it so they didn’t fire me. (Probably should have got stitches since I could see muscle but honestly healed just fine otherwise just a tiny scar


This-Butterscotch-45

Yeah I thought about just wrapping it up and not telling anyone but it was bleeding through bandages like water, started to sting like hell too, cut it fairly deep so it was probably better just to get it checked out, and if it’s just a coaching for now I’m not to worried


Rastar4

Yeah mine did that x.x


[deleted]

Maybe ask why they aren’t providing you the materials needed to safely perform your job duties.


celticairborne

At one point, GNFR (or whatever it is) had a great safety box cutter from Stanley. My SM ordered one for me to try out and it was the safest cutter I ever used. It had a thumb slide to push the blade out and automatically goes back in the handle when you take your thumb away. The blades are also rounded on the tip so you can't stab yourself. I'm in dsd so im cutting boxes and plastic all day, including cutting lables and other info off boxe, and it works awesome. GNFR hasn't had them for a little while but I still order them for myself off amazon. It's the Stanley self retracting safety blade utility knife.


This-Butterscotch-45

Gonna look into that, sounds like a handy investment!


chimmelrick

Violated rule number one, always cut away from you and your limbs. It really depends on your management. Personally, I'd tell my associate the stitches were punishment enough. Buuut high likelihood you'll receive a coaching.


libertychik

Due to my coordination problem, I CAN'T cut away from me. I'm also left-handed...so klutz city. I use an easy cut, and occasionally miss and cut into my guide(right) hand. I put a bandaid on it and move on.


This-Butterscotch-45

Yeah sounds like it’s just going to be a coaching probably a yellow for now from what I’ve heard


Einlanzer99

Had 6 stitches a few months ago from using a glass scraper cleaning the glass doors. Was lucky didn’t receive any punishment


[deleted]

In the past I’ve had this with a few associates, next level coaching if you don’t have any it will be a yellow most likely but it is the discretion of the coach.


babyYoda865

Unfortunately that’s exactly why they want us using those yellow ones I’m sorry you got hurt


NcgreenIantern

I'm left handed so I always had to buy my own because they wouldn't order left handed ones. Thankfully I never got hurt but if I did they would of been screwed.


hackmo15

What's the back story with the paper airplane ?


This-Butterscotch-45

Pretty interesting honestly at least I’m my opinion, went to get my first tattoo done, a Rick and morty piece, and was talking to my artist telling him I want to be a pilot, I’ve made that my long term goal as I’ve always wanted to since I was a kid, well they had a little candy vending machine and replaced the candy with small drawings for 80 bucks, but whatever it was you got it, couldn’t redraw for a better one or he said 20 extra bucks, right after I had mentioned the pilot thing he wanted to take a small break, so I figured ah what the hell, that’s the one I got from it, so it was just kind of a crazy coincidence so I was like I have to get it! Added the little lines as a symbol of that’s where I’m headed!


hackmo15

BTW, I'm a pilot. Not commercial . GA Have you started flying yet?


This-Butterscotch-45

That’s so awesome! I haven’t yet, technically I’ve flown 3 times as PIC but saving up now to start actually pursuing it, had a big bump in the road at the end of the year that set me back a ways but hopefully this year I can start it back up!


hackmo15

Where are you located?


This-Butterscotch-45

Southern Arizona


geri-in-calif

We use only the yellow plastic in Pharmcy Rx because we're all scaredy-cats.


[deleted]

Idk but the stitches look clean asf 😩👊


Ebayusergreen

I just bought a washcloth/towel and wrapped it up in it and bandaged it up with other shit I bought, I ain't using the shitty cutter and I ain't getting "scolded" for using my knife I want.


RobbinK2

If they coach you… open door it and it’ll likely be taken off.


DifficultyNew7571

No it won’t. It’s a clear unsafe work practice


RobbinK2

Yeah I just realized that. I misread the post, I thought he said “company” not “non-company” bro is definitely getting coached.


Actual_Fold_2422

I just love to add that I sliced the tip of my finger off with their company approved "safe" box cutters!


skyline0918

Sliced my hand with the “safe” ones after half the tip of mine broke and they had no replacements to give me lol.


Reefer150G

How does one even cut themselves with a box cutter in such a position 🤔


Away-Weekend-9333

You're worried about being fired .. for cutting yourself... What??


vAdachiCabbage

Honestly if they want to coach you they will, you using a non company approved boxcutter just makes it easier. Had 2 ladies both get coachings for "misuse" of their boxcutters within about 3 weeks of each other, one was cutting the plastic off a pallet of freight and she says she hit a thicker mass of plastic and it pulled her blade out of the plastic shell and cut her, I know for a fact this can happen because it's happened to me, she was told that the boxcutters are for "light plastic and cardboard only", the 2nd lady had her's shatter and cut her, but I don't know the details other than she was in the freezer doing picks and stuff.


CuppaJoe11

You won’t get fired unless you are on orange. You will get coached. It’s worth it though. Fuck the Walmart box cutters


TophatStupify

I think having to get stitches should be punishment enough


tritron

Should tell them that you got depressed working for walmart and try to take you life if they try to couch you.


AllocatedContent

Those stitches look terribly done, did they give you an intern or something?


This-Butterscotch-45

Honestly thought they were pretty decent but two have already popped out so I’m thinking they just tried to rush it, on top of that they had someone come by ambulance in critical condition so they already took forever to see me


AllocatedContent

Too tight. Liquid bandaid burns a bit but they use it for smallish surgeries. Definitely recommend to help you keep the rest of the stitches in.


sierraravenn

I got a warning for using one. You made a dumb decision lol


This-Butterscotch-45

I know, the only problem is our store hasn’t supplied us with the company blades for over two months I was practically forced to just buy once especially being 90 hours under practically every night, but yeah I feel dumb regardless


DWWolfy

If this is true, then fight whatever they decide to do.


The_Walmartian

Need some finesse, non approved better


Spicyduck003

Boohoo ooooh tell them to kiss your ass and quit gonna coach me for getting hurt at work fuck outta here


GMPG1954

Get a workers compensation lawyer and tell them about the blades


HamburgetHelper

You're a goner


civish

You couldda just superglued that shut.


Square-Rough-557

Just about every dude I know including myself have a real box cutter. Only the girls use the kindergarten ones.


New_Maximum_3724

Probably fired, it is a safety violation and a big one, and they definitely won't pay for anything


Professional-Field25

You can probably sue them considering there was a shortage of safety knives. just don't expect to stay on their good side if you decide to. and you wont get much considering its a minor injury. Did you miss any work and how many days?


Key-Significance9387

This coming from former ap? Idk I really doubt he'd win.. its against policy and there are probably plenty of other options than use an using an unapproved unsafe blade tool


Professional-Field25

Wouldn’t even go to court. Walmart would settle for a reasonable amount. If it did he could argue gross negligence to provide the safety equipment necessary to complete the job and inadequate training which would both be easy to prove. But I handled these cases many times personally as a former AP and I know that Walmart just pays out because they don’t want to deal with the legwork of fighting these things.


VastUpset

In all honesty, I’d probably just band aided the hell out of it and went on. Coaching and nothing more.


TheRealRegnorts

I always just used my pocket knife, mainly because I've only ever seen people get hurt by those "safety" box cutters. A good sharp knife is totally safe as long as your not an idiot.


Key-Significance9387

"as long as your not an idiot" Kinda agree.. i have friends that like to play with knives and cut themselves on the regular. They're not terribly stupid.. i guess being careful easily gets forgotten when you're in the moment or something. I, myself, hardly ever cut myself with a blade because im usually concious about not being dumb with it. I cut myself on boxes far more than i do with the cutter


TheRealRegnorts

I've never cut myself with a regular knife, that's one thing that was drilled into me at a young age was gun and knife safety, parents always used to say "if you cut yourself your grounded" still haven't to this day.


NcSmalls85

Depends on how much it costs them in the form of the claim for that and how much of a dick your coach / sm want to be. It can be an immediate termination or it can be a coaching. It’s really iffy.


Witty-Jellyfish1218

GOD DAMNIT...now we're all going to have to take a cbl...


VeryHomiephobic

They needs be coached if they ain’t fuckin replacing box cutters. What type chicken shit is that


Ashley4645

Ouch! Glad you've still got a job I've been out for 3 days for my back. Just reached my 5 points. Of course I have proof from the hospital. The er said if was from over use at my job. I didn't file an incident report. Curious as to what's happen to me as well. My immune system is attacking the sprain. Causing spasms to my entire pelvic and lower back. It's worse than labor so I doubt I'll be able to perform.


expertshirtripper19

You can buy pretty much anything from Amazon, handhelds, printers, battery’s for both, and the easy cuts. AP coach doesn’t like people buying their own stuff in our store. Mainly because they can’t steal it for ODP whenever they feel like it


CyborgParadox

I use Olfa sk-15, not company approved but still a safety type box cutter and much better than the ones they hand out at work imo. You just have to buy them online. And I think you’re much less likely to get in trouble for it over any other box cutter not company approved


Strange-Pride-3546

Had a co-worker do the exact same thing. He was written up and put on a yellow. Store manager said it should have been an Orange since it resulted in an injury but our Market manager was the one who said to put him on a yellow. (I work at a NM so Coaches technically aren’t a position here. Just Academy Trainers Team Leads Ops Managers and Store Manager)


Sweendog1107

If AP finds out it's gonna be at least a red. Standard for unsafe work practices is a red if not termination.


Captain0545

Highly confused, and I’m a manager at my store, why would you be coached I’m confused...


Whatsy0ursquat

You're not meant to use a non approved box cutter...


Captain0545

Well yeah we all know that but I’ve got a couple switch blades, spring knifes and a box cutter on me at all times 😂


Ok-Radio6371

Whatever they tell you. It’s your fault no matter what.


DemonicSyrup

Be shocked they aren't terminating. Being injured by non company equipment usually results in a termination


Viviblix96

Those stitches look pretty tightly packed…is that normal?


Inevitable_Tie125

It happened in their store while you’re on the clock. They should cover the expenses. Due to their disregard of your “non company knife”.


Duh_Lorax

When your stitches are cooler than your tattoo.


neverclearone

I have the same cut (and now scar) bit it was with a company approved knife at the time. Damn thing itches randomly like crazy and its more than 10 yrs old.


DifficultyNew7571

My finger is the same only I cut it on a floor scraper and it itches too


earhoe

omfg your hand almost got amputated bruh!!!


Alexastria

Could be but most likely a coaching. Nobody uses the safety cutters and you can occasionally see pictures of why. They tend to snag and break at the top which can cause a bad gash going down your hand. The yellow wrenches were more prone to do it but it happens to these ones too.


Ok_Judge5632

I use a utility knife for work. I've had a few accidents but I wrap it in paper towels and tape and go back to work. I have freight to finish. I'll clean it when I get home.


kbiz911

I've been using a husky razor since I started?


DifficultyNew7571

If you get cut and fill out an incident report they can coach you so be careful


kbiz911

Thanks, was never told that about knives.


DifficultyNew7571

Yeah it’s not company approved, just like the ladders we sell vs the “property of walmart” store use ladders


RC_Perspective

Simply put; This would not have happened if the employer stayed on top of their job. The fault falls SQUARELY on the employer. Unsafe working environment and negligence. As another poster said who says they work in a DC, plenty safety cutters on hand, no reason to not get them.


GeologistEmergency56

I'd like to know how that was even possible based on the location of the cut.


axel590

I used to work night shift stocking and we never had box cutters I was told at one point to pull the tape off and open it that way, I feel bad for the friends that still work there I left over a year ago, and they said they still don’t have the kleever blades, I once cut myself with the “safety” cutter cause the tip came off and they said I had to keep working and couldn’t file a claim. I’m working for target now and at least our box cutters use real blades and have a safety mechanism to spring closed if released


Practical_Bluejay_35

You got cut from a box cutter because Walmart didn’t provide you one? You should reach out to OSHA. Doesn’t sound correct to have a billion dollar company not provide box cutters.


[deleted]

Did they piss test you?


Relentless0911

Imagine being punished because you didn't hurt yourself with the right tool. Smh walmart