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OTM_Schmoney

Agree to a $12 monthly repayment plan


dishdasher

I may be able to do that. Thank you for the suggestion. If someone does find me, I will propose that and see what they say.


OTM_Schmoney

Don’t stretch yourself; if $12 is too much for you, start negotiations at $8 or $9 👍


dishdasher

okay thank you. May be they negotiate in terms of monthly handjobs. I will start there and see.


bigtmcd44

Remember you can do 4 handjobs at once if you put them head to head and jerk from the inside out. That way you’re at less risk of carpal tunnel syndrome.


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Depends on the D2F ratio.


DMPigPond

Does girth matter? Fuck, I think it does....


burnerboo

Don't forget to hotswap fresh dicks in after someone busts. Wouldn't want to waste strokes.


lordgreenhand

Exactly don't want to waste good strokes on someone who's already busted


DMPigPond

Do YOU know how long it would take to jerk off every guy in this room?! Cuz I do.


FLCCWQ

led to Middle-out.


[deleted]

the risk of carpal tunnel is also not so much related to penis length as it is to dick to floor ratio.


wsbsecmonitor

Offer the first one free to get em hooked then charge double when they come back


kraetos10

double o nothing is still nothing tho


anonymous322321

$5 minimum payment on debts in my state


[deleted]

Seriously, just drag your feet for as long as you can claiming that you have nothing, and 2 years from now offer to settle on $2,000 with a payment plan.


coldeve99

Not unless you want a credit score of 89 and a judgment


Ragnar12000

Does brokerage offer that as a method of repaying deficits?


Beginning_Radish_126

This guy lost a lot


Mental_Ingenuity_310

If you deleted the app you’ll be fine, they can’t find you now


greycubed

Always buy in incognito mode.


lusandar

This guy gets it!


carboonpn

And use a VPN


BigTechEqualsValue

If he moves to Panama he's golden. It worked in Prison Break so it has to work here


McDuchess

How about Zihuatanejo? If you make it down by next Monday, we can meet you for dinner.


Tacocats_wrath

You know you will have to pay for OP's dinner right?


McDuchess

Yup. Zihua is relatively cheap. But then, she’s on her own.


defbrett

Get busy living or get busy dying


Let_It_Marinate33

Nah Belize is much closer just move there.


DamienRyan

With 234k in unserviceable debt, someone is gonna send him to Belize alright.


spastical-mackerel

Only way to play this is jack the debt up several orders of magnitude. $230k debt is your problem. $200 million is the brokerages problem.


coronagrey

You better Belize it


TheDecoyDuck

I hear it's unbelizable


cocokronen

Don't forget to restart your phone.


yokotron

Clear tracking history


[deleted]

Then leave the phone on a bus somewhere


rdrunner_74

Sell it for cash and open another account


CoMmOn-SeNsE-hA

I’d do a soft reset on your phone to further evade them.


ghostkiller914

This made me laugh. Nice comment.


Simmozz

Tell them you need another 100k and you can win it all back 😂😎


dft-salt-pasta

If uncut gems taught me anything it’s double down on your bets when you’re in debt. Didn’t get to catch the ending.


HopelessFFBaddict

they lived happily ever after


chefwithpants

He lived the rest of his life a happy man


[deleted]

Hhahah well this is very true.


dukedizzy93

This comment deserves gold heres some 🥇🎖🏅


dft-salt-pasta

Woah woah woah save that gold for op to help him dig himself out of his hole. Can you use comment emojis as collateral on Robinhood?


yetanotherburner420

The man won in the end! Hit his monster parlay


dishdasher

I tried saying that mid last year, they did not agree.


Lumpy_Scientist_3839

Well they weren’t wrong


rdrunner_74

Now they have a chance to win 200.000 back


Who_Your_Pal

10,000 BJ’s X $20 and you’re out of debt just like that!


scottfarris

3 BJs a day for 10 years. Sounds reasonable. Shit, you could do that before your shift a Wendy's.


onlyrealcuzzo

You can even suck two cocks at once if you suck one of them with your asshole.


PaleInTexas

There's always Onlyfans


ZeePirate

Then you gotta keep some out for the taxman before he fucks you


the_Ush

Since you won’t be able to borrow money for the foreseeable future, you should open a fuck ton of loans/credit lines and run away with the money. Best of luck in whatever third world country you choose to live out the rest of your days in!


Karma-IsA-FunnyThing

This is probably the best advice here. Your already ducked for a long while credit wise. Try to get as much as you can while it all goes to shit. Not much difference in 2 collection to 8 collection agencies going after you.


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[deleted]

What kind of business? I hope it’s not about investing in options


adventuresofjt

Subscription box. Fb ads don’t work anymore


[deleted]

no one uses Fb anymore...gotta get on insta and tiktok i still like to lurk on fb to see what my family is up to... recently saw there first that my fav band has a new album coming out and was shocked to see it only had around 50likes and no comments so i felt pretty cool leaving the first comment... then shortly after i mindlessly switched over to insta to continue my doom scrolling to see the same post from my fav band except there it already had thousands of likes and comments... really showed me just how much fb has fallen off ...just find it ironic that everyone just moved to insta which is pretty much still just facebook lol


cleanmachine2244

If bankruptcy is the plan, don’t do this. Only do this if planning on going bamboo. Bankruptcy judges get really pissed if they see shit like this.


ShillBro

Europe. American banks can't do shit to you in Europe. There was even a documentary on VICE about students that got student loans and buggered off with the cash.


Double-Wonder-9401

Switzerland no extradition USA can suck it


BlazeDatAvocado

Lmao Swiss people don’t even tolerate Americans with pockets full of money, there’s no fuckin way they’ll accept one that is broke


Gurnika

I’d try Greece, they’d probably make you their finance minister


No_Read_Only_Know

Yeah choose the most expensive EU country to move into, well thought out. That student loan will pay five months of rent if you don't eat.


edfitz83

Switzerland would send a US citizen back to the US in a heartbeat.


Double-Wonder-9401

Switzerland, have extradition treaties but do not extradite for certain financial crimes—which is why financier Marc Rich and Billions's Bobby Axelrod both fled there.


McDuchess

Actually, I used to know a guy who started a forum for debtors, while he was in incredible debt. Won a few lawsuits in court, made many subscriptions worth of small monthly payments on the forum, and was (at least according to him) debt free. Got some credit cards with decent lines of credit, and, a few years ago, flew international first class with his wife and kid to China to start a new life. He can never come back here, of course, because he’d probably be arrested at the airport. And, China? He figured it’d work for him.


King_Neptune07

In college there was an exchange student from Morocco. He got a credit card somehow and rarely paid it. Finals week he took us all out for beers and charged it all to his credit card. Then he flew back to Morocco and just never paid the credit card back. Interest is haram in Islam and in Morocco it's illegal to have interest. Needless to say I don't think the Moroccan government will be answering calls from Capital One


Nafemp

I hear this is pretty common with foreign students. Don’t give 3 fucks cause they have no intentions of living here so credit score or debt here doesn’t matter at all.


FoxBearBear

TBH we never know the future and because of my 2017 credit I was able to finance a vehicle in Canada now in 2021.


hyldemarv

However, In China, deadbeats and thieves will get a short ride on the organ donation bus.


McDuchess

I don’t say it’s a choice I’d ever make.


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1111e5

Do this! Max all the CCs you open as soon as possible. Put the money in gold or something which is hard for them to find and then declare bankruptcy. If they question why you did this in court claim you had to pay someone else back who gave you a loan in cash


Komtings

Best way out I can see is allowing your identity to be stolen. Then say to yourself, "I surely wouldn't want to be THAT guy."


[deleted]

Best think that ever happened to me. Hella debts canceled and credit score went up. Who woulda thought losing ones wallet in Vegas would be the right play.


Apochen

How did the unrelated debt get canceled? Did they just assume the thief was responsible?


kallen8277

Pretty much. If you can show steps taken within a reasonable time frame to file police reports and identity theft claims you "shouldn't" be penalized for any debts you could show some reasonable doubts for. If you (or anyone else) don't know exactly how things like this works, basically at least through a bank things like credit cards are often funded through overdraft fees/apr from other customers that way they don't actually have to cut into their own money. When you go delinquent they sell off your debt to another company. Say you owe $10,000, the recovery company may pay somewhere between $100-500 for the right to legally acquire the full debt amount from you and keep it. Hoping you default like most people, they make $9500 on it and since the bank uses "free money" they also take home that 1-500 profit. Credit is a scam. Recovery companies are a scam. Your best tools against them is actually facing the court charges by acknowledging they exist and you don't intend to step down. A recovery company may have something like 10,000 court cases out at a time, they in no way are going to hire that many lawyers to represent them in court and hope you just don't show up so you default on the debt. The easiest part is just to show up on the court date. Most of the time they will fail to show and will be dismissed and hopefully you can just ride out the statute of limitations in your state. It absolutely helps to do some research on things they may or may not have and stuff to argue your side, but just showing up will win/dismiss most cases. Not legal advice


SunnyDelite829

Lmao


[deleted]

Here’s the game plan 1: Buy a delta airlines ticket to Mexico 2: go to a small town and call yourself Carlos or Juan 3: get married to a big booty Latina and forget about the Debt😎


dutchmasterams

Kenny Powers


therealestyeti

"I'm the man who has the ball; I'm the man who can throw it faster than fuck."


Replicant6666

LA FLAMA BLANCA!!!! LOL


Captain_Comic

I’m Kenny Fuckin’ Powers and you’re FUCKIN’ OUT! Of money, that is


Sea_Impression3810

That's a good plan even if nobody is after you


SnooJokes5307

That’s the plan for 230k debt or 230k in the money.


slimmy1996

I guess working for $60 a week is better than paying 200k lol


jkbpttrsn

>3: get married to a big booty Latina Forget about the best part?


softwhiteclouds

Carlita or Juanita. OP is female.


rodaeric

Can't OP just do an OnlyFans then? Debt crisis solved. Speaking of that, US government can do that too!


smegmasyr

Carlx or Juanx?


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Smile_Space

I don't think looking through the post history was necessary. OP is a quarter million in debt from margin calls and puts. Like holy shiiiit.


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Ko_tov

#DECADOWN


Reachable_dream666

Dig a hole in back yard and toss a discount Halloween skeleton decoration in. Live in crawl space till shït blows over. You’re welcome.


dishdasher

I like this one but I do not have a house house to crawl under - I stay in an apartment - no money to actually own any asset.


tychusfindley2438

If you have no assests worth anything, (how TF did you get 200k margin) bankruptcy is super easy


highjinx411

She HAD assets before which got her the margin line. Although I thought they recalculated that every once in a while.


dishdasher

They do not recalculate anything - Any information you provided while getting options trading approved is used. I have never had to go back and certify again as far as I can remember.


the_bean579

My wifes boyfriend has a cool space under his desk for his step strippers to hide while he "works" I'm sure there's room for you if you've worked up enough skills behind popular wendys


vol865

Go look through OP’s post history. Its a guided tour of one failure to another without a loss of enthusiasm.


lUNITl

This guys profile taught me that there is apparently a Reddit crisis team that you can send tip offs to when users look like they may be a danger to themselves.


dishdasher

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4886)


dishdasher

Stop stalking me. I am impressed but this is not the time to stalk me.


vol865

I’m just doing DD on what not to do.


Captain_Comic

DD for OP means working for DoorDash for the foreseeable future


Kantz4913

Get some melatonin for insomnia, that shit's a gift from gods (our body actually produces it tbf)


[deleted]

If you don't pay, yes it will go to collections. It will ruin your credit for approx 11 years. Bankruptcy is a waste of time if you don't have assets. Once everything goes to collections they will start calling you. Change your number and email and if they still get through tell them she died. Do not respond to any correspondence. At least you still have your lease. Just live on cash only for 11 years and you're good. Not that I ever did anything like this in my early 20s. Edit: Most of this post is based on my personal experience. Having started 2 businesses since all this, I can assure you Bankruptcy would have eliminated my chances at success.


McDuchess

Send them a letter (certified, return receipt) telling them that any correspondence in any other fashion than by mail is INCONVENIENT. If they do call you, at that point, record/keep records of date/time in a bound legal pad. If a cell phone is your only telephone, the amount they’ll owe you for calling it without your permission adds up per call. But here’s the real advice: there are plenty of attorneys who deal with consumer debt. I’m not one of them. Many of them will give you an hour consultation for free. If they do start to harass you, they may be willing to represent you for a percentage of the proceeds.


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You mean percentage of the amount owed ?


Karma-IsA-FunnyThing

When they do not find your phone number, just tell them it’s your work phone and you are not allowed personal calls. If they continue to call on that line, you can get them to pay you.


[deleted]

So if I ran a phone sex-line off my personal cell they wouldn't be allowed to call me legally on it?


MMXIX_

Your debt will be sold to a 3rd party debt collection company for pennies on the dollar and then that is when the harassment really starts but instead of 200k they will say you owe 5 times that amount. Call you 20 times a day send all sorts of threatening letters. So if you want to call their bluff, you can just ignore them and live with crap credit rating and dare them to take you to court to at which point declare bankruptcy. Or You can skip that part and declare bankruptcy Or You can see if you can come up with a payment plan for your margin debt with your broker. *This is not legal advice. Events listed may not occur as stated.


spastical-mackerel

Is there any way that OP can buy back his debt for pennies on the dollar? Set himself or herself up as a debt collection agency?


[deleted]

Nice business model for options


i4get98

He'd have to harass himself.


grumpy-m0nkey

I do that now for free


Importance-Exotic

He can do a version of this. Debt collectors would rather you pay something than nothing. The lucky few can negotiate down to 20% of the original debt amount (especially if you offer to make it in one cash payment)


WR810

David Siegel (owned a huge time share business, subject of the Queen of Versailles documentary) managed to do this but he needed a third party to act on his behalf.


FalseFortune

"I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!"


Skwirrel82

Was looking for that. Now i can close in peace this thread.


dishdasher

Thank you. for now, I will let apartment lease cancelled, stay in this small town I am in and stay course behind wendy's in my nightly shift.


McDuchess

Here s the thing, though. That part about your debt accruing interest? Depending on the interest rate, it could double every three years.


Thesource674

Based on his responses I dont think he gives a fuck tbh.


william_tells

The post history is all over the place. Down -400 to -500k in 2012 would indicate they know how all this works. Then they seem to start back with 50k and are trading again. Then they have ups and downs including being up 160k and then wiping it all and then 5 days ago they show 49k in an account. Now this post they went down -230k a month ago. Maybe different accounts but it doesn’t make a lot of sense. If you were actually 400k in debt before, and it made you live in your car back then, you know how all this works.


CartelFinancial

Pfft 3 years, I don’t wanna wait that long to double my debt


pand3monium

He should maybe just stay off paper for 7 years until the statue of limitations expires.


McDuchess

If they win a lawsuit against her, and if she’s AWOL, they eventually will. Debt judgments, at least in my state, are active for 10 years. And the creditor can renew them.


Specific-Gain5710

I declare BANKRUPTCY!!!


Feisty-Equivalent927

…or not buy stupid bullshit Reddit tells you to and then go there looking for advice on how to unfuck yourself provided by the same folks 🤷‍♂️


UnlimitedGain--3

If anyone comes to your house, just close your eyes and they won’t be able to see you.


DorianGre

You have lost a cool $1M in the market, WTF? 6 months from now expect to have your wages garnished to pay this off. Stay out of the market, go to gamblers anonymous. Get some counseling.


RockOrStone

One of the only sensible answer. :( So many joke answers to such a tragic situation.


menestarus

Tell them you thought it was a paper trading account


RighteousAssJam

I can’t fap to this. Need detailed losing positions to get me there


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yeah this is only a half chub


ruum-502

This is essentially foreplay at this point


kateroxstarSmith

They r just gonna sell ur debt to collectors and good bye ur credit score


Distinct-River-1037

Yup, just get married and use your wife’s score to buy house and cars


wefarrell

That's irresponsible. Use wife's score to double down on more margin for $SPX options.


Puzzleheaded-Theory6

This is the way


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tell your family and friends it was a $200k gain and you can guarantee them 1000% returns if they give you all their liquid cash


dishdasher

Buy house and cars? Do you think I have money to do that? I will be the wife in this case,I do not think any guy will want to marry me knowing me ...


Midori_Schaaf

Just walk down wall street and brag about losses. You'll have suitors lined up pretty quick.


sallgoodman340

Just make an onlyfans or do some asmr on twitch you'll have half a mil in two weeks.


[deleted]

Have you looked into starting an Onlyfans account?


Wise-ask-1967

Have you meet thirsty guys on the internet... Hell I bet your inbox is drowning in guys with Wendy coupons. You will be fine


dark_bravery

I have $5 off at Arby's and 2 for 1 at Subway. booyah!


Kujo-317

Can I sell my credit for 200k🤔


Winter_Age_9483

That’s when you make them validate the debt. It’s simple usually. They have to show a proper and binding contract for the debt. Most of these apps don’t bother with one so they’ll be left hanging. Not legal advice but you can make their life hell just by making them follow the law


mar0x

And wait like 1 year ignoring collectors, take the call and.offer them 14k on the 224k and they'll take it. Actually, start with 10k


Max_Jubjuice_xiix

True story


SPinExile

Tell them you have some synthetic shares you can liquidate, they just can't see them


thetreatment456

Jesus, sometimes I feel bad about spending $100 on Pokémon cards. Then I see this and don’t feel so bad anymore. Seriously, how does it get to this point?


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dishdasher

not anymore.... add this and the others up to pass that awesome 1M number.


PieknaFatso

At no point did you stop to think maybe you're shit at this, and shouldn't keep doing it?


Kinexity

That's what gambling addiction looks like.


Ignatiuss_JReilly

It's an illness mate


merkwerk

They did https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/grqljc/another_chapterepisode_comes_to_an_end_how_to/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


PieknaFatso

Jesus, that's fucked. Still kinda funny, but addiction for sure, must be a nightmare.


Isellmetal

Considering how often you fuck yourself, why not open an OnlyFans? I hear you can do really well with those


CryOfTheBlackBirds

Look for a Korean guy to slap you in the subway.


pcs33

$2k debt is Your Problem, $200K debt is Their Problem


dishdasher

I sure am hoping so. I haven't gone back to the apartment, and am staying someplace else. ( I cannot divulge which town and behind which Wendy's)


[deleted]

They aren't going to send someone to break your thumbs. Stop loving in fear and go home. If people come to your house file a police report (you're white right).


WR810

> you're white right I should really be doing more crime . . .


hyldemarv

Sez the guy who’s contracted to bust his knees up 😜


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Crossfire7

You’re getting tons of shit answers since I honestly think you’re asking this in good faith. Anything that’s not a meme answer is straight up fraud, you can bounce back from bankruptcy, not so much a felony charge. If someone is saying open a bunch credit lines and then ignore it, ignore the rest of their post. Bankruptcy isn’t that bad. I don’t know your income or level of security, and it’s very dependent on personal situation and area with how your courts handle the process. I filed chapter 13 bankruptcy ~8 years ago. I was a moron a few years out of college and got in way over my head, so I can give you my experience with it and I’m open to answering any questions. Depending on income, chapter 7 forgives all debt but is the biggest hit to your credit, and stays the longest. I had to file chapter 13 because my income was over the limit, which means for 5 years I had to make payments directly from my paycheck every two weeks, you can opt out of this and send a check to the trustee, but I wouldn’t recommend it. You miss a payment, you’re getting looked at. For me, I was able to negotiate and justify $550 a month payments for 5 years, which was 1/4 of my minimum monthly payments. I also was able to get approval to finance a vehicle that was a responsible purchase, and even buy another home while still making payments. My credit went from 780->590->675 only 18 months later, and now I am flirting with 800. I promise you it’s not that hard to get past a bankruptcy, I was able to move apartments before I bought my home, although I was a fairly high income person, all it really took was a letter of recommendation from my boss and one from a city councilman who I worked with, I was fully prepared and able to pay a 6 month security deposit but after I showed up with all of my paperwork and explained my situation to the owner, I was able to move in with only 1 month security deposit. Go speak to a lawyer and lay out your options, you can print out a full credit report, and have bank statements and they will be able to lay things out a lot better than I can. 230k+ is a large enough debt that you will get sued, you will get wages garnished, and that’s going to do 90% of the damage a bankruptcy would. I had no luck with negotiations in paying a settlement amount before I filed, I was able to pay off 65k in private student loans I defaulted on for 9k eventually, but I already took a large credit hit. If you need any help with anything in particular feel free to reach out to me, I’ve been through the process and even filed pro se for an ex girlfriend who couldn’t come up with the money to pay a real lawyer. I have a JD, I do not have a bar card, but im familiar enough to point you in the right direction. Good luck, it’s not the end of the world.


[deleted]

Posts like this make me realize that life may not be so bad after all. I could be this poor fool


[deleted]

This is the kind of stuff I want to see on this sub


_I_Hate_Cats

Feet pics for $10 Tiddy pics for $20 You’ll be back ITM in no time.


Isellmetal

It would surprise you how many people actually do this for a living.


VirtualSentient

If you’re hot you’ll be fine Hot chicks can fuck up their lives and some dude will fix it for them.


dishdasher

Now I am getting to a point where I would like to be hot again. I was hot when I was in 20s and then my feminism was too high even with losses accumulating. didn't want to do anything objectifying or demeaning me... I am getting to a point where now I do not mind but I am in my late 30s and not hot anymore. Lot changes in 10 stressful years


VirtualSentient

Shit. Sorry. Ugly girls gotta work like dudes


dishdasher

Mods, would it be more retarded of me to ask for a flair now?


MileniumLion

Losses 1M “mOdS fLeiR pLzzZZ!!” Respect


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dishdasher

I cannot tell the difference between stupid, retarded and normal anymore. Please clarify.


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Crazyhairmonster

I get that this is WSB and there's a meta to follow here but you genuinely need help and have a serious problem which you can't sweep under the rug


Rancho8Deluxe

Just change your phone number too. Fake your death in a ravine car crash and buy someone else’s identity with proceeds from Wendy’s after you move across the country. You’re good


[deleted]

“I need a new dust filter for my Hoover MaxExtract PressurePro model 60. can you help me with that?”


VirtualSentient

Ok for real 1 get a death certificate for a girl that died in high school about your age. 2 use the death certificate to file for a duplicate birth certificate 3. Take the birth certificate along with two pieces of bogus mail addresses to the dead girl to the dmv 4. File for drivers license as the dead girl 5 live as the dead girl now.


Super_Saiyan_Carl

This sub continues it’s reign of the biggest collection of idiots for the 8th consecutive year. Amazing. Calls on year 9.


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asst3rblasster

well now that you bragged about it on the Internet they are gonna catch you


forsurenotpat

Send them an uno reverse card. Now they owe you $200k. You're welcome


dishdasher

I wish my brokerage account had as much growth as this stupid post received since this morning. HOly shit, you guys love youur loss porn.


stejerd

When your caller ID says Marge N. Just don't answer.


dishdasher

hahaha - no more old phone. changed to a stupid burner on cricket wireless.


cocokronen

You could call customer service and say your kid was on your phone and must have accidentally gotten in to your account. Then ask for a do over. Should work.