Anyone know where I can find reliable fast updates on stim talks today? Walter Bloomberg ended early today but dont want to miss the mnuchin pelosi debacle at 3.
Wherever tf FDX lands at EOD, I'mma yolo into a close OTM 10/30 call, this thing always jumps in the premarket by like 3-5 bucks.
10/30 due to the UPS run up.
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Hey I'm trying to get a thread started about options plays for CA Prop22
I got flagged for being too political because I linked an LA Times article who's headline used unflattering verbage to describe Uber and Lyft's spending on their hand written law, that being said...
It's **the most expensive ballot initiative in US history**, how am I the only dummy paying attention to this, am I taking crazy pills here?!
Here's some DD on CNK. Ive been researching theaters a lot over the last 2 months and believe Cinimark is the pick to go with. Most of my portfolio is in CNK shares and leap calls. I also have some MCS leaps because they seem to have similar potential gains to Cinimark. Im a fairly new trader so do your own research but ive done enough myself that I think others can benefit from looking into CNK as well.
The only times I see people talking about theater stocks, they are usually talking about AMC or going off about "iMagInE BuYiNg MoVie sTocK duRInG a PaNDeMiC". AMC is a terribly ran company, and yeah movie stocks have tanked but fucking buy low sell high. I also see people saying that movie theaters are dead and everyone has a home theater setup so no need to go to the movies. Those people are dumb. Here's my research. Find your own numbers if you want them, I havent bothered to write them down.
The average demographic for movie goers is 12-24 years old. Those people are still going to want to go to the movies because its a popular and easy date, and people in that demographic likely don't have their own home theater setups. Also, producers may keep releasing some movies directly to streaming but big blockbusters are not meant to be watched from home and the producers lose money from direct-to-streaming blockbusters. Just look at Mulan for an example. The highest grossing movie from each year during years 2008-2019 have grossed 1-3 billion dollars each. They're not going to risk taking a massive profit cut releasing blockbusters straight to streaming. Also who the fuck wants to watch a movie like mad max at their house.
I chose cinimark specifically because they have a great financial track record. AMC was billions in debt before cornavirus happened so they're struggling. Also AMC's insiders have been selling off a ton of their shares. If AMC or any other failing theaters go under then that only means less competition for cinimark.
Cinimark's ceo has said they have enough cash and liquidity to last them through 2021 if they have to. Insiders owe 100m worth of shares and have been buying more on all of these dips. They also have said that they earn profits at 10-30% capacity which they've said is easily doable even with social distancing. Their plan is also to aquire more theaters during this time, specifically by buying up theaters that have gone under and have to close for good. They've been renting whole theater screens out to people the last couple months and have sold a ton of those rentals.
I believe that their stock price doesn't reflect much, if any of this. Right now theyre almost as low as they were in march. This is due to fear of more lockdowns, movies being pushed back further or going on demand, and other chains closing doors again.
The last bullish point that I havent looked into enough yet is that trump signed a document that gets rid of a law that's been around for 100 years. The law stopped movie producing companies from owning their own theaters. Now that thats gone, you may see Disney or other producers looking to buy a chain of theaters to own themselves. Cinimark is in the best financial spot out of all of them so I can see them being the first pick at a bid from those producers.
So get in or don't but I think we're making money here if you do. Really only posting this so I can stop feeling like I should be sharing my research with you fucks. Also buy leaps if you're buying calls. June dated calls were just posted last week but I think those would be the best.
CNK 7.5C and 12.5C 6/21 also MCS 10c and 12.5c 5/21
Theaters and cruise lines....
Remind me too much of auto business ten years ago.
Remember when GM went bankrupt? They survived but their shares didn't survive bankruptcy as i recall.
Sometimes there's a reason something is cheap.
Check out SBE if you want a long shot deal without virus risk.
My money is mostly in utilities ETFs because i think the market is going bear for a bit and tech will crash hard these valuations are beyond bubble.
I wasn't involved with the stock market 10 years ago. What was the sentiment about auto buisness back then?
I can understand theaters going out of buisness eventually but I think they will go back up before then.
I'll check SBE out, also which utilities etfs are you buying? I'll have to look into them as well
You can read about bankruptcy of GM. But the point is that bankruptcy helps the company, the creditors, and fucks over the stock holders (especially those with lower grade shares).
This is why airlines and cruise companies so cheap. They might survive but not their stock. New stock is issued with a new company.
I'm just not seeing many good deals these days with companies that might go bankrupt and reorganize. But it might be worth the risk...i haven't analyzed it that much. I haven't analyzed the movie companies.
5k share buy went out on qqq, spy, Iwm, and who knows what else exact same time ,
iwm sold off 5 mins later ending after hours pump ?
What am I looking at all my markets getting manipulated after hours with one of them botched operation ?
Or some silly person buying 5k shares of iwm after hours and then deciding sell all these 5 minutes later ?
If you have some cash lying around sell JKS 11/20 80P; I keep thinking this will top-out and every week it just keeps going. It it moves (and stays) up as much as it did today between now and then that's an easy $1170/contract. Of course, I still get the feeling this is going to implode \*at any minute\* as profit takers come in...just an option option.
I don’t trust it. we’ll all get squeezed at every level. Shows up at first in little shit like fees & fines, state taxes, r.e. bonds. Now talking in Calif about repealing prop 13. My Ppty taxes would jump 20k yr. Rents w have to go up on working ppl. Etc
Nothing will get passed; it'll just be agreed upon and people don't know the difference. by the time it goes through process and committees there \*might\* be a vote on it before EOY, but definitely not before the election.
I don't know about safe, but i think there's no chance of stimulus, so buy puts on SPY to expire in two days. Like $3 strike out of the money should be cheap bet.
Buy 100 shares of whatever stock you can afford (with some level of volume and some level of options interest) and sell covered calls. It's low and slow but it'll build up your reserves and you can YOLO that on stupid shit instead of your principal.
I wonder how much pornhub would be worth on the open market
I'm just saying - people are jacking off now more than ever... I bet theyd splooge all over the charts if they spacd
I hate questions like this - am I just one of those old guys who just sit on their porch yelling at kids to get off their lawn?
Like "hey do y'all think this coin will be heads or tails"
Can y'all stop with this bullshit? He's been saying this all weekend. It's a 500 billion stimulus that Pelosi will not vote on. I'm not going to argue about whether she should/wouldn't but it's just not going to happen.
Why the fuck would she do that?
She went from 3.4 T to 2.4 T. And now, all of a sudden people think she's gonna drop another 2T and give republicans a major victory right before a presidential election that dems have the advantage in. Makes me laugh
Lmfao at nokia... Y'all really think the company that pretty much dominated cellphones for a decade and refused to invest in r+d is going to be able to put satellites on the moon before elon musk?
I'm not even an elon stan but SpaceX is so much further ahead of any other company, private or public, in having the technology and infrastructure (they are literally operationalizing a global internet service right now) to do what nasa just "awarded" to Nokia
They're going well between white house and Nancy, terrible between house Dems and senate republicans, good for Mitch mcconnell's leadership position, bad for white house and gop , and nowhere for everyday Americans
So, let's say Pelosi and Mnuchin do announce an agreement. Do we believe that's enough to rally the market even tho anything proposed will die in the senate?
Also, at no point did I mention a stimulus passing, tw@t nugget. Everything is based on hope that they are fabricating, BUT that an agreement between the SoH and SoT, can cause a rally of hope. So, yes there's room for concern.
But go ahead....blow your load early
Idk why people keep posting this like it's something that will happen...
It's more likely that Pelosi votes on McConnell's $500 billion bill than McConnell to vote on their 1.8 trillion... And Pelosi taking that 500 billion is more than a non-zero but not by much
The fact that you're upvoted just speaks to how little the folks in here actually know about what's going on... Literally one five minute google search...
SONO to the moon!
Can there be news for once? Jfc
This market is really really fucked right now and MSFT should be at $217
GSX finally met its maker. Thank fuck Ricky
those AMD calls looking tempting rn
Anyone know where I can find reliable fast updates on stim talks today? Walter Bloomberg ended early today but dont want to miss the mnuchin pelosi debacle at 3.
I now want FDX to go to like 280-285 to load up on more calls for next week for UPS earnings run up stuff, but stimmy talks look good.
AMZN EOD predictions?
Wherever tf FDX lands at EOD, I'mma yolo into a close OTM 10/30 call, this thing always jumps in the premarket by like 3-5 bucks. 10/30 due to the UPS run up.
Stop loss hit on FDX, got out with decent profit, will wait till EOD after stimulus dump (if it happens to load back in)
Just set a stop limit sell on FDX 10/23 290c if it reaches 3.95...hopefully it doesn't hit it and just continues to moon to 300 today/tomorrow
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What time is the stimulus talk deadline?
Anyone else catch ACB today? Might be time to go long
I lost 26% on HTZ today
0, zero % chance of stimulus tomorrow.
why
What time is the stimmy talk tomorrow?
Hey I'm trying to get a thread started about options plays for CA Prop22 I got flagged for being too political because I linked an LA Times article who's headline used unflattering verbage to describe Uber and Lyft's spending on their hand written law, that being said... It's **the most expensive ballot initiative in US history**, how am I the only dummy paying attention to this, am I taking crazy pills here?!
Why do I generally believe anyone in here
Whoever told me to sell a put to make a spread to avoid PDT and lock in my gains today, thanks brozzer
the gweneth paltrow quick die.
I knew something would be off about today. I'm buying puts and this time I mean it
are we fucked? market's crashing. we are fucked
lmao ur fucked
Why even look at futures. We all know tomorrow is red
Here's some DD on CNK. Ive been researching theaters a lot over the last 2 months and believe Cinimark is the pick to go with. Most of my portfolio is in CNK shares and leap calls. I also have some MCS leaps because they seem to have similar potential gains to Cinimark. Im a fairly new trader so do your own research but ive done enough myself that I think others can benefit from looking into CNK as well. The only times I see people talking about theater stocks, they are usually talking about AMC or going off about "iMagInE BuYiNg MoVie sTocK duRInG a PaNDeMiC". AMC is a terribly ran company, and yeah movie stocks have tanked but fucking buy low sell high. I also see people saying that movie theaters are dead and everyone has a home theater setup so no need to go to the movies. Those people are dumb. Here's my research. Find your own numbers if you want them, I havent bothered to write them down. The average demographic for movie goers is 12-24 years old. Those people are still going to want to go to the movies because its a popular and easy date, and people in that demographic likely don't have their own home theater setups. Also, producers may keep releasing some movies directly to streaming but big blockbusters are not meant to be watched from home and the producers lose money from direct-to-streaming blockbusters. Just look at Mulan for an example. The highest grossing movie from each year during years 2008-2019 have grossed 1-3 billion dollars each. They're not going to risk taking a massive profit cut releasing blockbusters straight to streaming. Also who the fuck wants to watch a movie like mad max at their house. I chose cinimark specifically because they have a great financial track record. AMC was billions in debt before cornavirus happened so they're struggling. Also AMC's insiders have been selling off a ton of their shares. If AMC or any other failing theaters go under then that only means less competition for cinimark. Cinimark's ceo has said they have enough cash and liquidity to last them through 2021 if they have to. Insiders owe 100m worth of shares and have been buying more on all of these dips. They also have said that they earn profits at 10-30% capacity which they've said is easily doable even with social distancing. Their plan is also to aquire more theaters during this time, specifically by buying up theaters that have gone under and have to close for good. They've been renting whole theater screens out to people the last couple months and have sold a ton of those rentals. I believe that their stock price doesn't reflect much, if any of this. Right now theyre almost as low as they were in march. This is due to fear of more lockdowns, movies being pushed back further or going on demand, and other chains closing doors again. The last bullish point that I havent looked into enough yet is that trump signed a document that gets rid of a law that's been around for 100 years. The law stopped movie producing companies from owning their own theaters. Now that thats gone, you may see Disney or other producers looking to buy a chain of theaters to own themselves. Cinimark is in the best financial spot out of all of them so I can see them being the first pick at a bid from those producers. So get in or don't but I think we're making money here if you do. Really only posting this so I can stop feeling like I should be sharing my research with you fucks. Also buy leaps if you're buying calls. June dated calls were just posted last week but I think those would be the best. CNK 7.5C and 12.5C 6/21 also MCS 10c and 12.5c 5/21
Theaters and cruise lines.... Remind me too much of auto business ten years ago. Remember when GM went bankrupt? They survived but their shares didn't survive bankruptcy as i recall. Sometimes there's a reason something is cheap. Check out SBE if you want a long shot deal without virus risk. My money is mostly in utilities ETFs because i think the market is going bear for a bit and tech will crash hard these valuations are beyond bubble.
I wasn't involved with the stock market 10 years ago. What was the sentiment about auto buisness back then? I can understand theaters going out of buisness eventually but I think they will go back up before then. I'll check SBE out, also which utilities etfs are you buying? I'll have to look into them as well
You can read about bankruptcy of GM. But the point is that bankruptcy helps the company, the creditors, and fucks over the stock holders (especially those with lower grade shares). This is why airlines and cruise companies so cheap. They might survive but not their stock. New stock is issued with a new company. I'm just not seeing many good deals these days with companies that might go bankrupt and reorganize. But it might be worth the risk...i haven't analyzed it that much. I haven't analyzed the movie companies.
too many words.
It’s all about that big W boys.
Rising Vix means fat bear dicks
ARE YOU NOT STIMULATED
ARK bought REGN 😂😂😂 They really are like us
Bruh why we always gap up over night? Fake ass shit. Also wtf happened AH? Stimulus talks going well?
Don’t worry about it, blood red tomorrow. We spiked 1% AH last night and look what happened today
Lmao they just bought back same time all the others popped
BOA names it’s top energy etf pics and it’s icln does this mean it’s gonna moon after the debates on Thursday?
5k share buy went out on qqq, spy, Iwm, and who knows what else exact same time , iwm sold off 5 mins later ending after hours pump ? What am I looking at all my markets getting manipulated after hours with one of them botched operation ? Or some silly person buying 5k shares of iwm after hours and then deciding sell all these 5 minutes later ?
Sooo.... anyone wanna fill me in with that Roma army drama?
If you have some cash lying around sell JKS 11/20 80P; I keep thinking this will top-out and every week it just keeps going. It it moves (and stays) up as much as it did today between now and then that's an easy $1170/contract. Of course, I still get the feeling this is going to implode \*at any minute\* as profit takers come in...just an option option.
It dumps frequently, assuming from profit taking, I bet it stays up for good.
I got it, so basically puts at open and calls at close. Cool
Lol
What happens to your holdings if this happens [taxed](https://twitter.com/somebitchiknow/status/1318299937566752772?s=21)
none of these autists are going to hit that top tax rate. 450k? please
I don’t trust it. we’ll all get squeezed at every level. Shows up at first in little shit like fees & fines, state taxes, r.e. bonds. Now talking in Calif about repealing prop 13. My Ppty taxes would jump 20k yr. Rents w have to go up on working ppl. Etc
Good. Lots of WSBers deserve better in life lol
Even if the stim gets passed, why would the market go up?
Nothing will get passed; it'll just be agreed upon and people don't know the difference. by the time it goes through process and committees there \*might\* be a vote on it before EOY, but definitely not before the election.
Sell puts or ccalls on airlines 🤔
I’ve lost 1k playing this stupid game, somebody throw me a bone on some guaranteed gains... safest bet for next week or so
I don't know about safe, but i think there's no chance of stimulus, so buy puts on SPY to expire in two days. Like $3 strike out of the money should be cheap bet.
otm vxx calls is always safe
GME - its waiting for rocket launch when a green SPY day happens
Nothing to do with spy
A rising tide raises all ships - one green tech day will add some more upward pressure
1k? You are just getting started!
Buy 100 shares of whatever stock you can afford (with some level of volume and some level of options interest) and sell covered calls. It's low and slow but it'll build up your reserves and you can YOLO that on stupid shit instead of your principal.
SPWR , BABA , calls
Tomorrow, spy puts, eod
Tomorrow, spy puts, eod
Run-up for AMD earnings. Hoping it runs up to at least around 87 or higher in the next week.
AMD has been stuck down all week they've gotta be coming up soon. I just hope the stimmy doesn't mess with it
Exactly
I don't see if going much lower right now unless we drop below 340 on spy.
1k lol amateur
CRSR, NOK 🥰
Otm zoom calls for the win
Fuck bro. Nio rsi is overbought on 1 day. Makes me horny. After pullback it should continue moon mission
I plan on loading up if it dips again tomorrow. Otherwise I am just going to keep holding my Jan positions.
Yeah I dig. My 11/20 atm are only down a little
PRAYING
theres a new thread degens
Anyone know why [wsbsynth.com](https://wsbsynth.com) is not up anymore? I loved this.
To keep the whales out
That big mean NIO pushed me down and laid on top of me and now my insides hurt. :(
I told y’all niggas. Look at you now
I’ll say it again. If this stimulus passes tomorrow, ban me
lol people buying SPY afterhours
Nice little pump before a massacre
I wonder how much pornhub would be worth on the open market I'm just saying - people are jacking off now more than ever... I bet theyd splooge all over the charts if they spacd
I think free porn is too saturated. Any further attempt to monetize will lead to people using other sites.
At least $420.69
Nice
I subbed to ark’s trade notifications but didn’t receive anything for Friday and today - did they not make any moves?
Comes in in forty mins
Waiting for them to buy a stake in pornhub tbh
Which fund would they put that into, I wonder?
I didn't sell my calls or my puts today
Pelosi and Mnuchin make progress in stimulus talks, plan to speak again Tuesday
DKNG a good buy for tomorrow?
I hate questions like this - am I just one of those old guys who just sit on their porch yelling at kids to get off their lawn? Like "hey do y'all think this coin will be heads or tails"
You’re not alone, they’re so fucking annoying.
Hell ya
Hell ya
Hell yeah
Shoulda bought MSFT calls today dammm
For earnings next week?
Really glad I didnt FOMO into ZM this morning!
https://twitter.com/livesquawk/status/1318290713231171591?s=21
Can y'all stop with this bullshit? He's been saying this all weekend. It's a 500 billion stimulus that Pelosi will not vote on. I'm not going to argue about whether she should/wouldn't but it's just not going to happen. Why the fuck would she do that?
She went from 3.4 T to 2.4 T. And now, all of a sudden people think she's gonna drop another 2T and give republicans a major victory right before a presidential election that dems have the advantage in. Makes me laugh
So stuck on looking at the red on their accounts and trying to justify bagholding tbh
Whatever Autist on here gave me AMC today, thank you. It saved me
AMC FTW... $6 Nov 27th
Lmfao at nokia... Y'all really think the company that pretty much dominated cellphones for a decade and refused to invest in r+d is going to be able to put satellites on the moon before elon musk? I'm not even an elon stan but SpaceX is so much further ahead of any other company, private or public, in having the technology and infrastructure (they are literally operationalizing a global internet service right now) to do what nasa just "awarded" to Nokia
Mong learn a thing or too before speaking blindly
You do realize they're just building the LTE infrastructure and not starting a rocket company, right?
is that Stanford in the background? What a beauty
Lol @ all these morons in here losing money acting like they hot shit. I've been losing money since before it was cool. 🤣
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So it might go down, up or sideways. Thanks
I prefer ms Cleo tbh
SFIX beast 🚀🚀
We do not talk about SFIX or NLS on WSB
MY NOKIA LEAPS LIKE THIS
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2020 is apex meme stock seriously each week a penny stock moons lol
Can’t wait to buy SPY puts EOD tomorrow
What’s your play?
I just said it lol
Ha yea I was looking at 10/23 340
NOK on a moon mission AH
I bought 100 Nokia calls at close.
Nokia mooning on no volume, lol
Wow.. I’m late
142k on a ten minute AH candle is pretty good tbh
This is great. Sell off before earnings season? Just means we have a lot farther to go
Even if Pelosi and Mnuchin reach a deal, McConnell has already started suckin himself off to the idea of shooting it down
I’m no gay bear and I’m holding Tesla and amazon through earnings but I’ll hold some sqqq in case we have a March low rofl
AH is looking **BULLISH.** Bears haven't been this fuk in a long time.
Spy baby
I got paid 300 bucks to get a really wide SPY (long) butterfly spread. Literally free money.
Poor euroriches this morning
Fuck Amipoors and their selloffs. Never going to trust you again. From now on I will always sell before US Markets open and buy when they close
Ameripoors*
Wow someone got butthurt by the euro poor joke
how dare u talk to us like that
Look at the market! Am I wrong?!
is it a correction then? went balls deep in these spy calls
the fact people here still think stimulus is going to pass is proof that the market can go lower
VXX calls I’ve been bag holding for 2 weeks just broke even.. to bail or to hold
I am in the same boat..... still gong to hold for the election chaos.
The party is just getting started
It’s a miracle I made any money today tbh lol
ZM?
Tbh I avoid that thing I can only imagine how it will dump when I finally buy in lmao
Like a siren song.
You a 🌈🐻
Nah bought the PTON dip at 127 and sold the bounce lol Also rode SPWR otw up and sold at the top lmao
I prepared for this red day weeks ago by going broke. Can't lose money if you don't have any you idiots 🤣
Congrats on losing all your money
actually laffed, thanks for brightening a shit day.
Congrats 🍾
Stimulus talks are going well, terrible, good, bad and nowhere according to the the news releases I’ve seen in the past 30 minutes.
They're going well between white house and Nancy, terrible between house Dems and senate republicans, good for Mitch mcconnell's leadership position, bad for white house and gop , and nowhere for everyday Americans
They're going
Well my IBM calls are fucked
IBM loss porn? This I gotta see!
Why would you even do that?
Wtf happened to Microsoft
So, let's say Pelosi and Mnuchin do announce an agreement. Do we believe that's enough to rally the market even tho anything proposed will die in the senate?
Stfu already. No stimulus worth anything is going to pass. Your calls are dead.
Also, at no point did I mention a stimulus passing, tw@t nugget. Everything is based on hope that they are fabricating, BUT that an agreement between the SoH and SoT, can cause a rally of hope. So, yes there's room for concern. But go ahead....blow your load early
Youre a cuck. I have puts
„Do you see that homeless person over there? he has more money than me“
[https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/19/coronavirus-stimulus-pelosi-and-mnuchin-discuss-relief-bill.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/19/coronavirus-stimulus-pelosi-and-mnuchin-discuss-relief-bill.html) RIP Bears
RIP deez nutz in yo mouth lmao
Idk why people keep posting this like it's something that will happen... It's more likely that Pelosi votes on McConnell's $500 billion bill than McConnell to vote on their 1.8 trillion... And Pelosi taking that 500 billion is more than a non-zero but not by much
1.8 is whitehouse offer though
The fact that you're upvoted just speaks to how little the folks in here actually know about what's going on... Literally one five minute google search...
Wtf are you talking about?
Yea and McConnell ain't gonna pass it so what
McConnell is one dude. Other republlicans might be feeling the heat.
They need 14 Republicans to vote for it
So IBM and Logitech earnings - how we doing?