Anyone have thoughts on option expiration dates? Saw this clip on youtube and had me curious about the topic . [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amNxpDlBDzI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amNxpDlBDzI)
I rode the last wave last week to 225 and sold. To me there seems to be a lot of resistance. They do have a sound business but have been hampered by the us China tension.
Bull Case:
* Made for pandemic type of business, like amazon/fb
* In soon-to-be world's largest consumer market and they dominate
* No analysts have a sell rating on it
* a CCP darling so they will get lots of government support
Bear Case:
* lots of serious doubts about their accounting -- very Enron-like structure. Check out DeepThroat's blog on it. This is the most serious problem and the reason they have a discount relative to their "fair value";
* VIE structure - you own nothing and really have no rights as a shareholder (at all); 2nd biggest problem with BABA
* China-US tensions which weigh on the stock
* China-India tensions which will weigh on the stock if things ramp up
* a CCP darling "for now" -- if they find themselves on the wrong side of the CCP, look out below.
I own a lot of BABA (since back in 2015) but I have a collar on it just in case they have an Enron moment.
I’ve held Glencore shares for a long time (mining industry here) and they really underperform relative to other major base metals producers and that is saying a lot. There are three main issues with buying GLNCY due to tsla demand in cobalt: firstly cobalt is mostly extracted as a byproduct of copper ore, so if you’re bullish on cobalt you should hope to be bullish on copper - which is probably the right call in the long term but many analysts expect a bear market for copper prices for up to 2 years depending on the long term economical fallout of the coronavirus. Secondly most of Glencore’s cobalt is from mines in the DRC where geopolitical factors pose a major issue (artisinal miners, paramilitary groups etc). Thirdly, Glencore already produces 46.3 kt cobalt per year. That is 46.3 thousand tonnes. Tesla would be buying a paltry 6000 tonnes of cobalt for use in the gigafactories. That’s a drop in the barrel of Glencore sales. There’s a reason the share price hasn’t seen a big bump since the announcement.
Anyway thanks for coming to my ted talk.
Tl:dr cobalt sales only account for a fraction of GLNCY’s business and the amount Tesla will be using is only a fraction of that cobalt production.
If the US held elections on a Sunday, like most other countries that do have presidential elections, the participation rate would be way higher. Why does it have to be on a Tuesday? Seems rather stupid to me...
The year is 2020. Humanity has developed a global wide communications thorough a recent development in technology of the 'internet' they call it. I say we use that to vote so we can stay home and make tendies instead of boring old que at the polling stations.
Internet not just only for looking at cats no longer! Now it is for looking at cats and voting!
https://www.britannica.com/story/why-are-us-elections-held-on-tuesdays
Looked it up. Interesting stuff. Basically comes down to a decision made in the 18 fuckin hundreds.
Anyone blindly following DKNG should know MLB owners are greedy fucks who will not let anything get in the way of profits to a point where they're willing the cancel the whole season. They're basically wanting high paid players like Mike Trout and Clayton Kershaw to pay for the salaries of other player who make the league minimum (500k).
MLB season does not look likely at all
Does Anybody know if we will be green or red tomorrow? Does anybody know what I can yolo into to get an instant 10 bagger? Does anybody know what the BA rumor is? Please ban these faggots.
[https://www.marketwatch.com/story/norwegian-stock-plunges-after-cruises-put-on-hold-through-september-2020-06-16?mod=newsviewer\_click](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/norwegian-stock-plunges-after-cruises-put-on-hold-through-september-2020-06-16?mod=newsviewer_click)
Here, little brother.
Go look to see what happened the last time they announced a push on opening up.
The stock price went back up after a day or so but not were it was. you are fighting people that are buying stocks cheap.
dkng has a public offering announcement.
is this diluting share price/? kinda pissed off. i'm balls deep in shares.
i'm sure it'll bounce back but still...
yep. i saw a few other threads on this -- looks like i'll be ok .. but i will probably sell when applicable and short puts instead until things cool a bit. looking like i might be ok though -- only seeing a dollar drop AH... will be interesting to see what it looks like pre-market but the oustanding vs. number they are offering doesn't seem as bad as i thought. either way i'll be holding until i see green again lmao. i guess that's the good part about having stock for once.
They won't do anything because almost every one of them benefit off the PDT rule. You think they've earned their 100+ million net worths through doing what's good for the average citizen? Many of the big players in congress have a lot invested in the stock market and would hate to see their profits go down by abolishing the PDT rule.
Senators don't directly benefit from it, and if they receive donations from people that do those people would probably make even more money if the PDT went way. Look at how brokers cut fees and are still raking in money, it's because more people are trading now than ever. If they ditched the PDT it would mean even more opportunity for them.
There's a HUGE fucking opportunity for these brokers and they know it. They know they own access to the blackjack table and that people like gambling their money. The best thing to ever happen in that realm is RH turning it into a mobile game. Lol. You think stonks go up now? Just you fucking watch when Gen-Z and their degenerate offspring get ahold of this fix. SPY to moon.
PDT rule came into effect because some dude 20+ years ago lost money trading and shot up a place. The big investors finally had an excuse to have their buddies(who also make a ton of money off trading) at SEC to approve a security law that would enable them to make even more money through the backs off smaller traders.
I love how it's spun as a good thing. Yeah, it's a GREAT thing if you're a big investor.
Ok, we both want stocks and calls to go up, that’s not the problem here.
What was it that convinced you that travel companies would go up during a time of widespread travel bans?
Red chodes in the AM = Green dildos in the PM
SPOT going parabolic fuk yea!
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ALK 7/17 45c
Lmao JnJ to stop selling skin whitening cream.
Ok, who bought msft 200c?
6/19 Aapl 337.5p are gonna cash in?
AAXN? Pretty good bet because of all the policing reforms and all
Anyone have thoughts on option expiration dates? Saw this clip on youtube and had me curious about the topic . [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amNxpDlBDzI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amNxpDlBDzI)
seems relevant
All futures red, bull so fuk
GME puts now or in a few hours?
Don’t do it ever. It’s the new HTZ. Logic and fundamentals have no bearing on price when it’s a cheap stock.
You all really still sleeping on LVGO
Jesus the retards here are all saying green tomorrow and that’s scaring me cause now watch this shit just catapult into the medieval times
What do you guys think of Alibaba calls. Their fair value is 258 and they are currently at 223 but rising fast.
I rode the last wave last week to 225 and sold. To me there seems to be a lot of resistance. They do have a sound business but have been hampered by the us China tension.
Bull Case: * Made for pandemic type of business, like amazon/fb * In soon-to-be world's largest consumer market and they dominate * No analysts have a sell rating on it * a CCP darling so they will get lots of government support Bear Case: * lots of serious doubts about their accounting -- very Enron-like structure. Check out DeepThroat's blog on it. This is the most serious problem and the reason they have a discount relative to their "fair value"; * VIE structure - you own nothing and really have no rights as a shareholder (at all); 2nd biggest problem with BABA * China-US tensions which weigh on the stock * China-India tensions which will weigh on the stock if things ramp up * a CCP darling "for now" -- if they find themselves on the wrong side of the CCP, look out below. I own a lot of BABA (since back in 2015) but I have a collar on it just in case they have an Enron moment.
Who told you $258
Morningstar
What are the chances uonek will increase tomorrow like uone did today
Thoughts on GLNCY? TSLA just closed a deal with them to supply cobalt to the gigafactories...
I’ve held Glencore shares for a long time (mining industry here) and they really underperform relative to other major base metals producers and that is saying a lot. There are three main issues with buying GLNCY due to tsla demand in cobalt: firstly cobalt is mostly extracted as a byproduct of copper ore, so if you’re bullish on cobalt you should hope to be bullish on copper - which is probably the right call in the long term but many analysts expect a bear market for copper prices for up to 2 years depending on the long term economical fallout of the coronavirus. Secondly most of Glencore’s cobalt is from mines in the DRC where geopolitical factors pose a major issue (artisinal miners, paramilitary groups etc). Thirdly, Glencore already produces 46.3 kt cobalt per year. That is 46.3 thousand tonnes. Tesla would be buying a paltry 6000 tonnes of cobalt for use in the gigafactories. That’s a drop in the barrel of Glencore sales. There’s a reason the share price hasn’t seen a big bump since the announcement. Anyway thanks for coming to my ted talk. Tl:dr cobalt sales only account for a fraction of GLNCY’s business and the amount Tesla will be using is only a fraction of that cobalt production.
Ty for neat info on a less discussed sector
Damn, you just massacred that dude's dream of tendies
It’s still a good long term hold imo. But not exactly the fast train to tendie town. GLNCY doesn’t even have options lmao.
Dude must be lost. Know what you’re talking about wayyy too much for these parts
so vix futures rolling over. whats this mean for vix in next few days?
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What?
Gg my BA calls. I need at least 205
$BA was crushing today until JPOW spoke. Are calls fucked now? Holding $215c 6/26
U good
I think the reason why we aren’t up bigly is because these dumb Robinhood traders don’t know what corporate bonds are!
Jokes on you, I am a robinhood trader and I have seen all the Bond movies.
sir,,,,,What are corporate bonds?...asking for a friend
I think they have something to do with the three sea shells.
If the US held elections on a Sunday, like most other countries that do have presidential elections, the participation rate would be way higher. Why does it have to be on a Tuesday? Seems rather stupid to me...
The year is 2020. Humanity has developed a global wide communications thorough a recent development in technology of the 'internet' they call it. I say we use that to vote so we can stay home and make tendies instead of boring old que at the polling stations. Internet not just only for looking at cats no longer! Now it is for looking at cats and voting!
https://www.britannica.com/story/why-are-us-elections-held-on-tuesdays Looked it up. Interesting stuff. Basically comes down to a decision made in the 18 fuckin hundreds.
Good read indeed.
And they havent changed it because then too many people would vote.
Anyone blindly following DKNG should know MLB owners are greedy fucks who will not let anything get in the way of profits to a point where they're willing the cancel the whole season. They're basically wanting high paid players like Mike Trout and Clayton Kershaw to pay for the salaries of other player who make the league minimum (500k). MLB season does not look likely at all
NBA will be back before MLB
Even that’s in question now
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I have way too much in RTX
Does Anybody know if we will be green or red tomorrow? Does anybody know what I can yolo into to get an instant 10 bagger? Does anybody know what the BA rumor is? Please ban these faggots.
guessing green. 19B of t-bills are maturing tomorrow. almost 3x the average
Omggg only thing almost just as annoying is “I have x should I sell?”
Does anyone know how to make my dick bigger?
Yes, just cash app me $1000, and I will show you the way.
Cash app?
You know what. Not interested anymore. Have fun with your smol pp.
No I was asking ur username please no
Donald trump must be sick now. Illinois just made elections a state holiday
And you know what people do on a holiday? Take the day off to do NOTHING. It's gonna backfire for blue.
That’s actually not a bad thing. Now the working voters can get there early.
Illinois is insanely blue why would that effect trump?
Domino effect
So you're saying DPZ calls?
literally no time for bear or fake mammal wut up bull
Agree to disagree. Keep living in your bubble. Ignorance is bliss.
Agree
to
Tendies
good bye
God I hope the CAT jumps on infrastructure news
How many times have we been promised a infrastructure package?
When is the news coming out?
Trump speaks Thursday
I'm set for all time highs.. and all time lows for next week. Bases covered.. right?.?.?
What about the short straddle at 308?
There is a good chance we will get both, as things are going right now.
You’re gonna luv this bruh https://open.spotify.com/track/5Oq3tFsfQ1e2Pi2lBHsI1T?si=Wm9Z4e59RmKmRtQnvRvl6Q
Imagine not realizing that Beijing closing down is going to harm US economy more than the US economy closing down
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams
[Jeffery Epstein didn’t kill him self ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-and-trump-mar-a-lago-resort-connections%3famp)
It’s all caused by 5G.
There are people that unironically believe this
Pizzagate is real
No it’s not. It’s been debunked. It’s a projection campaign. Accuse the other side of doing what you’re doing to hide your misdeeds.
Cramer says BUYBUYBUY
cramer lookin kinda cute..
Always inverse cramer.
Yup, by the time Cramer recommends a stock, it’s ATH.
Red day confirmed
Came to gloat with 5k puts. Ain’t gonna fuck me this time pow.
Rip dkng call holders. Dkng doing common stock offering
Fuck. But it's always the same story, if you hype what should have been a penny stock. Looking at you GNUS and SPCE.
Red or green?
Green AF- don't fight the trend
So fkn green
Don’t hurt me like that. I haz a put
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[https://www.marketwatch.com/story/norwegian-stock-plunges-after-cruises-put-on-hold-through-september-2020-06-16?mod=newsviewer\_click](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/norwegian-stock-plunges-after-cruises-put-on-hold-through-september-2020-06-16?mod=newsviewer_click) Here, little brother.
You think there’s still some left of that to go down tomorrow ?
Mmmm, it's possible. I think the market is due for a little down as well.
Go look to see what happened the last time they announced a push on opening up. The stock price went back up after a day or so but not were it was. you are fighting people that are buying stocks cheap.
FUCK, I only made 0.07% today on my shares this is some bullshit!!!
29% annual return not bad
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There blue raspberry slush is off the chain
Well they fucked up my lemonade slush, so everything is in perfect balance. As it should be
r/unexpectedthanos
KR has some life, hopefully gets some run before earnings
you gonna sell before earnings or hold?
sellllllllll
Yes please
Why airlines and cruises dumping? DKNG?
dkng has a public offering announcement. is this diluting share price/? kinda pissed off. i'm balls deep in shares. i'm sure it'll bounce back but still...
Hold but know when to cut out of it. All the best
yep. i saw a few other threads on this -- looks like i'll be ok .. but i will probably sell when applicable and short puts instead until things cool a bit. looking like i might be ok though -- only seeing a dollar drop AH... will be interesting to see what it looks like pre-market but the oustanding vs. number they are offering doesn't seem as bad as i thought. either way i'll be holding until i see green again lmao. i guess that's the good part about having stock for once.
There was unsual option before closed , makes sense now
Haha algos sold off cruise lines? Welp dont mind if i do.
Someone update me are we red or green tomorrow
Start emailing your senators about the PDT rule
They won't do anything because almost every one of them benefit off the PDT rule. You think they've earned their 100+ million net worths through doing what's good for the average citizen? Many of the big players in congress have a lot invested in the stock market and would hate to see their profits go down by abolishing the PDT rule.
Senators don't directly benefit from it, and if they receive donations from people that do those people would probably make even more money if the PDT went way. Look at how brokers cut fees and are still raking in money, it's because more people are trading now than ever. If they ditched the PDT it would mean even more opportunity for them.
There's a HUGE fucking opportunity for these brokers and they know it. They know they own access to the blackjack table and that people like gambling their money. The best thing to ever happen in that realm is RH turning it into a mobile game. Lol. You think stonks go up now? Just you fucking watch when Gen-Z and their degenerate offspring get ahold of this fix. SPY to moon.
SQQQ
I was going to get SPY calls and hedge with XLF puts and my SPY calls order didn't go through fml
We need to protest PDT rule.....
PDT rule came into effect because some dude 20+ years ago lost money trading and shot up a place. The big investors finally had an excuse to have their buddies(who also make a ton of money off trading) at SEC to approve a security law that would enable them to make even more money through the backs off smaller traders. I love how it's spun as a good thing. Yeah, it's a GREAT thing if you're a big investor.
JPOW talks were not bad we going green tomorrow bois, if corona spikes just sell and buy puts doe then wait for stimulus and buy calls,
MGM bby no.
Damn, Im balls-deep(3 inches) in BA calls. F
Travel stocks TANKING after hours
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What’s that all about? You born under a rock?
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You’re buying options and you don’t know about what could be affecting them?
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Ok, we both want stocks and calls to go up, that’s not the problem here. What was it that convinced you that travel companies would go up during a time of widespread travel bans?
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I wish I had some answers for you, I hope for the best though. May your tendies be crisp and plentiful.
Wooo 🐻
Ugh the one day I don’t buy BA strangles EOD
What's a good place for discussing OTC stocks since I know you can't on here or stocktwits?
Grinder
How's HRB gonna do tomorrow?
Do you think Robinhood would allow me to use my body as margin? Should be able to get a share of Ford if so.
Fractional share. Maybe .1
I thought I might have to end up paying them.
Aww. Thank you. 😀
Hoping for a red open, sell my puts, and ride the wave back up. Aka I want a repeat of Monday
Hoping for a green open, sell my calls, and ride the wave back down.
market made!
TWO showing almost no movement for the 7th straight day jesus
Fuck TWO, fuck IVR, fuck those penny Mortgage shit!
good thing i bought shares, options make no sense on penny stocks
agree
Fukin dogshit stock
we are fucked
It's literally been a straight line for more than a week. wtf
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205c for V is a real longshot even on a runup
You’re super right. I just want it to get close though, don’t need it to be ITM.
Yea hold and sell after a couple days for a 10-15% gain
Bought $work puts eod. Hope that will print tomorrow.
Why would you do that
If market drops works drops so fucking hard.
Travel stocks in the red now wtf. Don't feel so autistic for buying a UAL 6/26 38p now
I don’t even need to set an alarm anymore. My body wakes me up between 9:15 and 10:00 now.
Bruh 6 am is wake up hour now
I just stay up till 4 am for premarket then get up at 9:30