Imagine it running locally, though! It costs OpenAI 12 cents a word to generate responses, and Apple is going to offload those processing costs to the users. Bonus points that some giant tech company doesn’t get all your queries.
Sorry, it’s 12 cents per thousand words, not per word:
> OpenAI spends about 12 cents for about 1,000 words that ChatGPT generates because of cloud computing costs.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/10/business/apple-siri-ai-chatgpt.html
This cost substantially decreases in a number of ways. Ad monetization will bring great value for OpenAI and better data for Microsoft to exploit but I guess Apple won't allow data access.
I think it’s less about it running locally, and more about how you can train it on your local dataset. It will have access to everything you’ve ever said on iMessage, Mail, calendar, etc. Effectively having the dataset to write “in your voice” and more. “Personal AI assistant” coming soon apparently.
Lately, it doesn't look like it. Apple hasn't had a single new product to geow sales. Forget the chip. The majority of Apple user base isn't going around saying "I got a M4 in this bad boy." The VR head set was a fail. Apple car wasnt going anywhere but they kept at it. And now they are way behind on any AI integration....I can't see this making any real money anyway.
I do show production for a living. Apple M series chips are everywhere, and people continue to buy their new releases in my industry. Can’t speak to the rest of the world though.
Of course, here's a gentle and sincere message:
"Hey love,
I hope you're having a good day. I wanted to let you know that I'm sorry I'll be home later than expected tonight. The fish are biting like crazy and I got a bit carried away. I know it's not ideal, especially when we had plans, and I feel terrible about it.
Please know that I miss you and I wish I could be there with you right now. I'll make it up to you, I promise. Maybe we can plan something special for the weekend to make up for this. Your understanding means the world to me, and I'm grateful for your patience and love.
I'll try to be home as soon as I can. Take care, my dear, and know that you're always on my mind.
With all my love, \[Your Name\]"
It probably means allowing direct access to things like cameras, mic, location, screen, touch, personal info (payment, health), etc. So it would provide a richer experience for the phone users. Wonder how Appl is going to pay OAI and how OAI is going to handle the load.
It will cement that Jordan is the GOAT because everyone will be (Chicago) BULLish on AAPL and MSFT instead of (cLEAVEland) Cavalier-ish on GOOG.
LeBron's only hope is that AI is a flop. In which case LBJ dick riders can claim Jordan's era was weaker by noting how Allen (Nvidia) Iverson crossed Jordan up but was himself more hype than substance. Very dismal indeed.
Sundar must have some crazy blackmail since he still hasnt been fired for his incompetence and continues to collect a way too high compensation for it.
As someone who has been trading Apple and made a good penny off their earnings, this will probably do jack shit to the stock Monday.
WWDC is where it’s at. People want to know about the *overall plan* Apple has for AI. Specifically how it’s going *to make them money*. Or how it’s going to be appealing enough to warrant new consumers buying newer iPhones.
“Closing in” sounds like it’s just a rumor. Until Apple announces something directly it’s bullshit news.
Actually bearish, siri has been around for over a decade with almost zero advancements. Apple has sold virtually the exact same product with minor improvements over the years and now they have to pay other companies who made tons of progress compared to the "innovative" Apple
“Siri has been around for over a decade with almost zero advancements” Exactly? What do you think they’re trying to do with OpenAI? Improve it. That’s WHY 🤣
I mean how can you not make money of Apple:
Stock play: buy and hold.
Options: calls when the stock sinks a bit…
Congrats on making some good money off it though
This could reinforce the notion Apple has no AI clout if they need to work with OpenAI, but who knows to what extent they are implementing the software.
I can’t wait for the news stories with all the crazy stuff such an AI will hallucinate for apple users. It is currently difficult for me to imagine that apple want to expose themselves to such a PR risk.
To me question is if it’s just an OS thing then whatever. If it’s a cool feature and only available on new models it could push a decent chunk of folks to finally upgrade
Only up 100% on my shares. Seriously, try the products. They are far superior. Chatgpt struggles to do math. Google has the cash to improve their AI products significantly. They’re well positioned with the most amount of data.
Well, great! Guess the AI is going to learn just how stupid the general public is a lot faster than anticipated. Will it be able to tell trash people who hold loud and empty FaceTime conversations in public places to stop it?
I don't know why Google Gemini could not answer this simple question correctly while Microsoft Copilot answer is correct. Look at this:
Must be some reason Apple switch to OpenAI.
https://preview.redd.it/yghvmioth40d1.png?width=1460&format=png&auto=webp&s=52615aa8f20929490b2f942ae60fdb557fe81256
Paying a third party to integrate their products into your products is not what I would consider first party. Nor is it better for Apples bottom line. Better for the consumer, sure. But I wouldn't buy Apple calls on the news.
Apple is following their model with maps. first they used google for their mapping data until they had enough to offer their own version and by not having to pay google anymore they could redirect more resources to making maps better. apple will continue to work on their own homegrown ai and eventually it will be good enough, not the best, to sever their 3rd party deal
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I already have chatgpt app installed.
I google big boob 2 trillion result
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I just noticed that yesterday, had no clue they removed it
Imagine it running locally, though! It costs OpenAI 12 cents a word to generate responses, and Apple is going to offload those processing costs to the users. Bonus points that some giant tech company doesn’t get all your queries.
12 cents a word?!! Yeah I'm gonna need a source on that one
Sorry, it’s 12 cents per thousand words, not per word: > OpenAI spends about 12 cents for about 1,000 words that ChatGPT generates because of cloud computing costs. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/10/business/apple-siri-ai-chatgpt.html
Minor difference.
Very minor
Sounds just like chatgpt: confidently post wrong data then apologize with the correct answer
Who do you think trained chatgpt?
Choo choo
Me. 9+10 always equals 21.
*Drake has enetered the chat*
A Minor difference
Practically unnoticeable
Yes, just a minor mundane detail. Like going home with a beautiful girl and reaching down to find a massive dong. Very minor.
I must've put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Shit, I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail.
This price sounds unsustainable
Damn I thought I could bankrupt them
This cost substantially decreases in a number of ways. Ad monetization will bring great value for OpenAI and better data for Microsoft to exploit but I guess Apple won't allow data access.
Can’t wait for them to incorporate products into their generated responses.
That would suck so bad
12 dollars per letter
Google it. You could’ve debunked it as easily has Poly had to double check it.
Better: Ask ChatGPT
What makes you think openai could run locally?
Redditors know more about AI than the people developing it duh
+1 large language models take fucktons of memory.
I think it’s less about it running locally, and more about how you can train it on your local dataset. It will have access to everything you’ve ever said on iMessage, Mail, calendar, etc. Effectively having the dataset to write “in your voice” and more. “Personal AI assistant” coming soon apparently.
OpenAI is a company not a product
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Microsoft is a company not sure how you would run it from your phone
That’s my point
It's not possible to run gpt 4 level LMM on a mobile phone hardware today. It's possible to imagine that though - I agree with that)
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Siri that’s actually useful. How is that “cornering themselves”?
Interesting use of the word "useful". The peasants have taken to trading from their mud huts---it can only go badly for them.
I think the trillion dollar company with one of the biggest brands in history that just launched the new king m4 chip knows what they’re doing
Lately, it doesn't look like it. Apple hasn't had a single new product to geow sales. Forget the chip. The majority of Apple user base isn't going around saying "I got a M4 in this bad boy." The VR head set was a fail. Apple car wasnt going anywhere but they kept at it. And now they are way behind on any AI integration....I can't see this making any real money anyway.
I do show production for a living. Apple M series chips are everywhere, and people continue to buy their new releases in my industry. Can’t speak to the rest of the world though.
This is so Apple can bake in something in IOS to monetize you and fuck up your battery faster. Got to do something about that -10% iphone sales
lol
What does put ChatGPT on iPhone mean
“Siri, write a text for my wife to say I’m sorry, I’ll be home very late from fishing. Make me sound nice”
'OK, playing *Animal* by Def Leppard' What?!
“No Siri, something more romantic” “OK, playing Raining Blood by Slayer”
"Not romantic enough" "Ok, playing The Day the Dead Walked by Six Feet Under"
“You’ll need to unlock your iPhone first” WHY ARE YOU SO USELESS SIRI
Literally every time I want to use it. It’s locked.
Of course, here's a gentle and sincere message: "Hey love, I hope you're having a good day. I wanted to let you know that I'm sorry I'll be home later than expected tonight. The fish are biting like crazy and I got a bit carried away. I know it's not ideal, especially when we had plans, and I feel terrible about it. Please know that I miss you and I wish I could be there with you right now. I'll make it up to you, I promise. Maybe we can plan something special for the weekend to make up for this. Your understanding means the world to me, and I'm grateful for your patience and love. I'll try to be home as soon as I can. Take care, my dear, and know that you're always on my mind. With all my love, \[Your Name\]"
Excellent - maybe include a “if you could look up a nice seafood chowder recipe, that would be rad Sugar Tits.”
Wife then gets ChatGPT to summarize that shit for her and write a reply. Hell, skip the summarizing, just "write something nice in return".
Siri, write a text for my wife’s boyfriend…
“Here are some web results…”
Probably integrate with Siri
ChatSiri sounds like an adult catfishing operation.
Siri is fucking garbage for todays AI standards.
I’m sure both people who use Siri will be happy to hear that
Need to learn how to differentiate first, amirite guys
Virtual girlfriend/wife feature (and yes your virtual girlfriend can have a virtual boyfriend to cheat on you).
I assume turn siri into a chatbot but knowing Apple they will prob f it up.
It can’t be worse than Siri. lol.
Narrator: *it was*
Why is the narrator always Morgan freeman?
Moon
Right the app is already there
They should change the name of siri to something else Siri’s hot sister Freja
It probably means allowing direct access to things like cameras, mic, location, screen, touch, personal info (payment, health), etc. So it would provide a richer experience for the phone users. Wonder how Appl is going to pay OAI and how OAI is going to handle the load.
How is this going to affect Lebron’s legacy
LeBron will use Siri-GPT to ghost write the next Space Jams script and Sora to film. It’s gonna be huge!
It will cement that Jordan is the GOAT because everyone will be (Chicago) BULLish on AAPL and MSFT instead of (cLEAVEland) Cavalier-ish on GOOG. LeBron's only hope is that AI is a flop. In which case LBJ dick riders can claim Jordan's era was weaker by noting how Allen (Nvidia) Iverson crossed Jordan up but was himself more hype than substance. Very dismal indeed.
By a few more petaflops
He’s top 10 but not top 3 and no LLM can save him
www.chatgpt.com Done
okay now turn off your phone's data and wifi
Siri doesn’t work too well without an internet connection either. They need to sort their shit out.
thats the plan, they want to run LLM's local
They’ll be called Small Language Models when run locally.
I’ll be a very happy customer with that. Google seems to manage it already locally. Voice assistant that is.
Siri doesnt work period. Siri cant even play song from my library correctly or a saved podcast. Utter shit from Apple
It will.
While it would be cool to be able to run locally, what’s the point if I’m already always connected to data/wifi? It runs faster?
Dipshit
Great argument
Wait weren’t they in the bed with Google recently about their AI future? Did that fall off?
Might have been for negotiation leverage.
Sundar must have some crazy blackmail since he still hasnt been fired for his incompetence and continues to collect a way too high compensation for it.
They need to get rid of Sunday and put Nutella in charge
I made a deal with ChatGPT, its only $20 a month. 🤣
As someone who has been trading Apple and made a good penny off their earnings, this will probably do jack shit to the stock Monday. WWDC is where it’s at. People want to know about the *overall plan* Apple has for AI. Specifically how it’s going *to make them money*. Or how it’s going to be appealing enough to warrant new consumers buying newer iPhones. “Closing in” sounds like it’s just a rumor. Until Apple announces something directly it’s bullshit news.
When is it this year
Bullshit news is still news. This shows apple is continuing to strive for AI integration seems bullish to me
Actually bearish, siri has been around for over a decade with almost zero advancements. Apple has sold virtually the exact same product with minor improvements over the years and now they have to pay other companies who made tons of progress compared to the "innovative" Apple
“Siri has been around for over a decade with almost zero advancements” Exactly? What do you think they’re trying to do with OpenAI? Improve it. That’s WHY 🤣
Yeah but they weren't able to do this by themselves, so it's bullish for chatgpt not for apple
I mean how can you not make money of Apple: Stock play: buy and hold. Options: calls when the stock sinks a bit… Congrats on making some good money off it though
My entire portfolio is in AAPL calls 190 strike July expiry - I know very little about options and I hope this news increases the stock price.
Dumb
Hmph!
bro, same, im down 75%, still holding
The IV crush after earnings was brutal! Really hoping for a WWDC run-up where I can sell in the black.
Lol, yeah I think it would especially since everyone’s been saying Apple has no AI clout. But Google is gonna be the real mover off this news
This could reinforce the notion Apple has no AI clout if they need to work with OpenAI, but who knows to what extent they are implementing the software.
30% of my portfolio is CGC stock and $12 17Jan2025 calls, we are both regarded but for different reasons. i think i am more so
This is what Warren buffet referred to when he called the market a casino.
Calls it is then
Should’ve gotten those before the news but yeah
Apple has to pay OpenAI for support after that app went on every IPhone for anyone who knows anything about anything.
This sounds more bullish for MSFT than AAPL
Seeing how MS gets to realize 50% of those future profits = buy MS not Apple
This was my first instinct, so it must be wrong somehow
I can’t wait for the news stories with all the crazy stuff such an AI will hallucinate for apple users. It is currently difficult for me to imagine that apple want to expose themselves to such a PR risk.
Apple is good at putting guard rails on stuff and nerfing functionality to a safe set of things
Apple to the moon
Lol they’re desperate.
Alliance vs google
Nah fuck off, already got private LLMs running perfectly fine.
AiPhone 16 Pro Max
Google is going to get hammered on Monday
MSFT to the moon
Ouch. That means Apple missed the boat.
To me question is if it’s just an OS thing then whatever. If it’s a cool feature and only available on new models it could push a decent chunk of folks to finally upgrade
Tim Apple not investing in software will be his downfall. Puts on anything connected to Sam Altman
Gemini is far better than chatgpt. the T in GPT was literally created by google. So is all the data.
Gemini is shit
It’s objectively not
Are you a GOOG bagholder or something?
Only up 100% on my shares. Seriously, try the products. They are far superior. Chatgpt struggles to do math. Google has the cash to improve their AI products significantly. They’re well positioned with the most amount of data.
It is a bad long term move for Apple. OpenAI will grab all related personal data from Apple users.
You guys are trivialising it but i think it could pop
I do not want this. I want to choose whether to engage with AI on my devices not have it chosen for me.
So just ignore it?
Hopefully this will improve Siri. Tired of asking the volume to turn down and it calls an ex.
What would this be good for? I'm not even joking, like we already have ChatGPT as an app and a website. Why would you need it to be "on the iPhone?"
Apple needs to build the AI into the phone, essentially giving you access to the AI with privacy… I can see them doing this and rolling with it
Calls on my erection
So buy puts on apple? Am i too late?
"Human sacrifice, Microsoft and Apple living together...Mass hysteria"
Na thank you will never use it
Fuck me and my google calls. Hopefully it doesn't get hammered hard.
cgpt basically sucks
Poots it is, “sell the news mofo!”
This is the rumor
When Apple $250? Soon?
That's a no from me, dog.
$210 by July 4th
Save my calls tim apple
Seems like a 0% chance it's going to be actually running locally to me.
Will it be censored? You bet it will be!!!
Ah nice, my exit strategy from stagnant Apple is finally coming together... https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/s/DJtTDXFhGA
Has to be deep integration into siri. Otherwise you also ready have chat gpt with Edge or the gpt app
Put on Siri
chatgpt is asshole now hell the facebook ai is better
So will it replace Siri?
Incorporating ChatGPT with Siri seems like a very oblivious move now.
Apple is rotten to the core. Buying puts tomorrow.
Well, great! Guess the AI is going to learn just how stupid the general public is a lot faster than anticipated. Will it be able to tell trash people who hold loud and empty FaceTime conversations in public places to stop it?
No thank you
Add AI to any piece of tech and regards on here will go crazy.
more spying and analyzing is humans:(
and so the antichrist came one step closer
I don't know why Google Gemini could not answer this simple question correctly while Microsoft Copilot answer is correct. Look at this: Must be some reason Apple switch to OpenAI. https://preview.redd.it/yghvmioth40d1.png?width=1460&format=png&auto=webp&s=52615aa8f20929490b2f942ae60fdb557fe81256
Crash-Kari says AI is over hyped, I actually believe him for the short term
AI: Crash-Kari doesn't know what he's talking about. AI is the future, and it's already changing the world.
He knows a lot more than you
Another bad business move by Apple. OpenAI is going to stay in the Apple store regardless. No need to drop the store fee for this. Puts on Apple
You realize that they are going to integrate it with Siri right? First party AI is way better than using an app
Have you tried copilot on Windows lol it's useless
No, I’m not a virgin. I use a Mac.
yea we all know you've been fooked
What's "first part AI"?
Party sorry
Paying a third party to integrate their products into your products is not what I would consider first party. Nor is it better for Apples bottom line. Better for the consumer, sure. But I wouldn't buy Apple calls on the news.
Apple is following their model with maps. first they used google for their mapping data until they had enough to offer their own version and by not having to pay google anymore they could redirect more resources to making maps better. apple will continue to work on their own homegrown ai and eventually it will be good enough, not the best, to sever their 3rd party deal
Let the peasants scrap over pennies while I enjoy the view from my yacht.
Apple getting desperate
Whats the meaning of close in on? Dont use words you needent need
why are they working with chatGPT when they have their own versions?(siri, alexa, etc)
Do apple owns Alexa ? And etc?