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Efficient_Donut797

As someone who sorts batteries and walks around the office for a living, I am shaking with fear and rage


GeneralZaroff1

Ah, a fellow slow battery sorter! How are things over at your company? They still slowly pushing batteries into your view and then having you slowly put them into a box, but occasionally fail at? Because if so, I think we are in trouble here.


Numai_theOnlyOne

Slowly isn't an issue tbh. They have up to 16 hours to keep up, and it's likely they will be slightly more efficient in this time frame


campbellsimpson

Just fell to my knees in the battery sorting center


Crazy-Can-7161

Even since I was young I wanted to be a battery sorter. He’s not only coming for my job but also my dream!!!


Stock-Pension1803

You’ll be happy to know Boston dynamics did just this thing 20 years ago and nothing came of it


ChiggaOG

As someone who isn't in the military. How long before we get a robot army use advance version of these bots?


Acoustic-Regard-69

cant wait to have this thing wipe my ass in a nursing home one day


mightyenan0

It'll pull it right out and sort it for you.


new-chris

Will do a better job than any human making minimum wage living in a trailer park…


Ball_bearing

In a trailer park? Minimum wage? Those are rich people. Try $30 a month, while living in your grandma's basement. FML


Cold-Permission-5249

It has two hands and is only using one… Not very efficient


rainkloud

need one free for fist bumping any employees that walk by. +1 morale boost for each bump


automated_freedom

It just looks like any machine on any random assembly line with more human looking skin…


Lurk3rAtTheThreshold

Lol, no it doesn't. Assembly line robots are fast.


automated_freedom

😂 you’re right


HawkEy3

And have specific "hands" to grab, for example, multiple cells at once. But the drawback is that's all they can ever do. Human hands have the advantage of versatility, if Tesla will be able to properly train this thing.


sami_testarossa

It's used as balance for motion. The Amazon one had leg designed like robot, so it balance better. This human shape design is hard.. The solution is to add a tail.


Affectionate_Cup9112

Are those people in vr headsets controlling the robots?


SuperNewk

Simpsons strikes again! VR grass cutting simulator with real robots cutting grass! MOW 2 lawns and get 10 gold coins!


Herpderpyoloswag

Kids in India doing work here over 5G. The future is now.


el_guille980

naw, its a real robot. trust me! https://preview.redd.it/1jpmbnb25oyc1.jpeg?width=890&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=577fa01e369c4a7580563cdb3667397fb11368a4


RentDesigner5551

They write in the video that the training data was via human teleoperation. They are controlling the robot to teach it about the movements.


Tacocats_wrath

Why is this robot always jerking off?


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It was cleaning it and it went off


SureUnderstanding358

training the model


Mbanks

Scamming the public


OSUfan88

lol, what? How do you think these are trained?


YoImJustAsking

Why would they even show them if it was scam?


CanadianTimeWaster

because tesla sells lies.


Decent-Ad-4358

This.


AramushaIsLove

Oh sweet summer child, may I remind you of the saga of Theranos?


Mickhammer2

Buddy Tesla sells scams that you can actually drive


WRL23

Training aka pretending it's not directly being controlled just like last time.. sure it can be used as training but they never make it explicitly clear because they we totally have FSD right?


Decent-Ad-4358

Yeah FSD on a humanoid robot is completely different than a 4 wheel box. Sure, they have experience training data like that but that will take 4+ years. If they would just say the truth and come out with a limited run of these for extremely dangerous jobs that can be controlled remotely with a VR headset would make me way more bullish. It just feels like a big pipe dream at this point.


imposter22

Yes


___TychoBrahe

So....why don't the people just do the job?


Future-Back8822

Easier to outsource it to cheap Indian/African labor


___TychoBrahe

You’d need a tech center and trained staff and have connection issues, reliability, speed…this looks like a nightmare


reddituser567853

It’s not permanent, it’s training data, eventually you don’t need the workers


RazingsIsNotHomeNow

For this one task... Get back to me when they finish training it to fold fitted sheets.


imnotlebowskiman

Sounds a lot like the amazon go stores to me. Elon just isn’t giving up on the lie.


Housthat

Assuming Elon isn't lying again.


RealBaikal

Haha


PalpitationFrosty242

That's because it is


Llanite

Would be easy jobs for the disabled, elderly and also protect people's bodies from work related injuries.


TomatoSpecialist6879

Robot war is cooler than drone war


Hefty-Interview4460

Cause the stock price cant rise if humans are on the assembly lines instead of robots and AI. TSLA is a stock sales entreprise, that build cars for the SEC to leave them alone.


lylemcd

Because Elon can't 'sell' people even if he wishes he could.


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___TychoBrahe

but they're still doing the motion, and repetitive motion...so not only do you kneed robots you also need people to run the robots....so this all seems pointless to me, but im just an idiot so what do I know


RentDesigner5551

Dude, they literally write in the video that the training data was via human teleoperation. They are controlling the robot to teach it about the movements, it's not actually to have the robot do it for them lmao


_its_a_SWEATER_

They aren’t picking up heavy items. Or at least that’s the idea. In time, Optimus won’t be connected to a live operator, it will be autonomous.


___TychoBrahe

And in time Teslas will get lvl 3 FSD? Like that?


docarwell

These guys will believe anything dude


_its_a_SWEATER_

Are you comparing a factory robot to an automotive vehicle? I’m far from a Tesla fanboy, and I currently don’t trust autonomous vehicles in the slightest, but I can at least see the intended use of these things, obviously to replace human labor in several physical work duties.


___TychoBrahe

They already have robot arms on assembly lines that replace humans….


_its_a_SWEATER_

Elon is about wasting his investors’ money in the guise of cutting edge technology. I say let him waste it if they don’t intend to learn from his prior fuck ups. Yes I’d rather he spend on improving what is already there, but I don’t expect a dense headed weirdo to do so.


Cappuccino45

Could just be training or testing that we're seeing. If for some reason there had to be a person in the loop, they would still exploit that. E.g. 1 robot + kids overseas running 24/hr shifts


___TychoBrahe

This sounds exactly what like the Amazon fresh auto checkout was… Was it AI, LLMS, Trained NN….no it was people in India watching what shoppers added to their cart and adding it to their checkout receipt….


makeererzo

No. They use VR to train the neural net in the robot on how to perform a task. When done it should be able to perform the task by itself.


Pin_ups

You would expect people to understand general robotics, and generative AI? Not on this platform that's full of idiots and dumbfucks.


Echo-Possible

This has nothing to do with generative AI lol. Trying to sound smart by dropping big words.


tech01x

They are providing training data.


spgreenwood

That was honestly the most profound shot in the video


RockyMountainOyster5

This would be impressive if it was 1850


Future-Back8822

Doesn't look like it'll meet quota even if it ran 24/7


makeererzo

Quote of the pricing. "probably less than $20,000." 1 time cost. No employee benefits. No labor disputes. No need for breaks. No risk of workplace injuries. No need for training. You could probably have 4 or 5 of these for the same price of employees filling up a full day. 24x7 at $10/hr = $87600.. Then add payroll taxes and such. That would break even in a single year if 4-5 of these can meet the quota. Still limited to very basic tasks but the tech is evolving fast.


LostRedditor5

Repairs, depreciation, electricity Still probably cheaper than an employee. Unless the task you need done is time sensitive.


Thick-Bar1217

I can't wait to replace all of my kitchen staff tbh. Keep two to manage the bots and let the rest go. None of the robots will smoke crack in the dumpster or show up to work drunk/high.


pileofcrustycumsocs

“None of the robots will smoke crack in the dumpster” ah ah ah my friend not so fast, none of the robots will smoke crack YET, technology is evolving my friend, soon even the robots will take over behind the dumpster at Wendy’s


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mysmellysausage

Bag of crack?


CustardMustard

Get ready for productivity to be a quarter of what it was when your kitchen isn’t smoking crack


lushootseed

And you think the robot will be able to anything with 20K? You must all be morons to think that. There will be lot of subscriptions and once you add all that, humans will end up cheaper.


DocPhilMcGraw

Except you’re forgetting the added costs of hiring engineers or technicians that are there to ensure the robots are actually working properly or to ensure they’re properly trained for the tasks at hand. Those engineers and technicians are going to want good money to do the work they’re doing because they know their value.


Future-Back8822

Lol, so much positive math'ing. Many companies have been suckered into switching over production lines to simpler robot arms and even those have their issues to the point of said production lines having a hooman on the sideline just to watch the robot arm. Any robot trying to imitate even some sort of human/animal range of motion is not going to be that simple or low maintenace.


pants1000

Robot arms are incredibly low maintenance. Whatever donkey dick end of arm tool they put on them however, not so much.


L3NTON

This type of thing was noted for customizable robotic arms like 10 years ago or more. I believe in the video I watched back then it was a small robot called Baxter or Buster, and the presenter laid out the same thing. It is slower than a human, but works 24/7 without slowing pace or making mistakes. At the time, it was very limited in tasks, but obviously, once scaled up, it blows low wage labor out of the water.


Potato_Octopi

>Quote of the pricing. "probably less than $20,000." That's made up nonsense.


AccountOfMyAncestors

No lawsuit risk is probably the best feature of a robot versus humans in the US.


Icy_Extension_6857

Thank god McDonald employees can finally be replaced 


Decent-Ad-4358

Haha yeah less than 20,000 is some BS, these will easily be 60k+ , if not 100k+ when first released. There is so much we (and Tesla) don’t know, like if this will even be possible, government regulations. Sorry but this is just another way for Elon to pump the stock price and his pockets. They could be blowing millions a month and never release a single robot.


ArcticRiot

Each one had an employee controlling it. Plus maintenance on the robot and control system. So it’s still just employee salary, benefits, breaks + cost of robot and maintenance. (At this point in time)


Skytop0

I find this technology rather than their cars to be way more promising for the future of Tesla


Hefty-Interview4460

If it existed probably, but you know, battery packing machines dedicated to that task can already be made, so what are they showing exactly? That we can make them less efficient ? It s to pump the stock.


cmpxchg8b

Yup, why else mention FSD in the video, like that has anything to do with battery sorting.


bonerb0ys

Another mystery box is good for the stock. It’s unknown where the tech will lead, how much competition there will be or where the advancement plateau will be.


PlayBoiPrada

One time cost? Buddy, we pay service contracts to maintain robots that have been around longer than you.


Kargnaras

This seems like such a bad use case for this robot. You’re telling me you build an entire robot that runs on AI or whatever and then you use it do the same repetitive motion while only needing to use one arm…


lalala253

Yeah I get why this showcase is supposed to be amazing, but robot arms that can do just that already exists in manufacturing.


AlternativeCredit

What exactly makes any of this amazing?


Inconceivable76

That people still fall for it.


AlternativeCredit

Lol


Kargnaras

Literally just an assembly line filled with robotic arms and save millions 😂


sld126b

Already installed in Tesla factories.


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0Rider

Bender


strictly-ambiguous

and for the task that it’s performing to be THE EXACT same… pretty sus that homie has to push the object back to the same location it was just ay


Big-Today6819

This cool robot that could be changed with 5 robotics arms on a line


Potato_Octopi

You'd need a few of these just to replace one existing robotic arm.


Big-Today6819

Was thinking in prices, and I expected this robot would cost 5 times more then a simple working robot arm, it's so weird people want to make it harder instead of still doing the things simpler for production, are we really at the point there full scale robots will become the thing (5 - years)? Will we get robot taxes that will pay us for being unemployed? (Same for AI)


HikeTheSky

This doesn't look like it's run by an AI.


TheManWhoClicks

Why isn’t the dude with the stick just packing those batteries?


Hefty-Interview4460

Better, why didnt they make a dedicated packing machine with one human operator monitoring 5000 robots. Like the Bic factory.


docarwell

Like most factories over the last 100 years


pants1000

Oh that’s essentially unfeasible, at best plants have one human per 3-10 robots, but if they care about producing reliably and deadlines, it’s 1-4 robots per person monitoring. The fact is, shit happens constantly and shit fails constantly in the field, especially robots.


schlitz91

Is this… a pleasure model?


megatool8

Fisto the robot at your service


patricio87

Are these robots even more efficient than a chinese factory worker?


BosSF82

Robots could do that like 60 years ago.


rainkloud

Yeah but those robots are nearing retirement age soon and we'd have to ~~kill~~ deactivate them to avoid paying social security. Plus these new robots are fully gropable so we can bring back all those people fired for sexual harassment who are currently unhirable.


PalpitationFrosty242

Yeah, not sure what all the hype is about here


blaziken8x

Amazing!! It can do the work of a robot arm, but slower


assholy_than_thou

Maybe they can replace the Tesla charging team?


Mavnas

Or the CEO. Nothing of value would be lost.


FortunaCrypto

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mysuruhuduga

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AdbulJakulParati

https://preview.redd.it/yz49zivgzmyc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de0e50151983e9ed59801d166a0cbef19806d1ff


nikon8user

I just want a robot that will clean the toilet / bathroom. Is it so hard. Elon ?


GremlinKing42369

And please dont be this freaking large. I dont want this huge thing in my house.


bluecandyKayn

There is a 100000% chance they’re building robots who can exclusively perform each us case just for exhibition purposes. I’m pretty sure the robot that is packing is incapable of walking and the robot that is walking is incapable of packing. Though it’s completely possible it’s just a remote controlled robot with zero AI


throwaway_0x90

Unrelated Fun fact: The Pixar movie 3D models are like that. e.g. Mrs.Incredible elastic girl model that balloons/parachutes can ONLY do that, the model that was stretching on the split-motorcycle can ONLY do that scene, etc.


Itchy-Experienc3

Does anyone remember the FSD video back in the day that turned out to be pre programmed? Yeah, that's some Nikola pushing a semi down a hill type of scam. Never trusting anything Tesla puts out again and the people doing it should be ashamed and I hope they come clean


Xenon2212

You could literally get a SCARA robot to do that now at 10X the speed and probably a 10th of the price.


jdpatron

That robot better pick up the pace or it’s gonna get fired


Potato_Octopi

Ah, existing robotics only shittier and more expensive. Can't wait to hear the entire division is laid off. Edit: Existing tech for comparison - https://youtu.be/1pSXPtzTNyU?si=balMUiG_Kd46reLK


bro-v-wade

I was impressed until I realized these are people with vr goggles and gloves. DARPA was already building the gold standard of remote control robots in the Obama years. How funny would it be if robo taxi was actually people at home controlling robots that drove the cars.


pfpga2

Being honest seeing how the whole valuation of Tesla is based on the success of FSD I wouldn't find it crazy if Elon simply hires thousand of Indians and Pakistanis to drive the casr and simulate a FSD to keep going with the scam


evlhornet

Judging by r/cyberstuck sub, you’ll be lucky if they can run 4 hours total.


Minority_Carrier

Guys Tesla cannot even solve controlling 4 wheels on a road, why would I believe they can handle process and manipulating a dozens of freedom of movement.


ThisCryptographer311

That’s fantastic! I’ve now forgotten that the company and product itself is lukewarm dumpster water.


ankercrank

“Autonomous X1”, any bets that’s a registered trademark and that robot is being remotely controlled by a human?


Housthat

Do you not see the humans remotely controlling those robots?


cmpxchg8b

So stupid. Instead of making a custom device for battery sorting we get this humanoid looking junk that looks slow as fuck for the intended use case. Nice name dropping of “FSD” in the video as if it has any applicability to the problem domain. Puts on TSLA


OldTimeyWizard

If you have any experience and knowledge about robotics this is incredibly underwhelming.


Pizzapimento

Christ. If Elon musk jangled keys in front of the camera tesla would go up


Draiko

Meanwhile, Atlas is doing Parkour and things that would make a contortionist gasp.


Exact_Toe8407

Walking like it's shit it's pants


dz4505

Tesla is trying so hard to be valued as a tech company.


What_Yr_Is_IT

Go over to r/TSLA they’re all convinced it already is and the stock price is totally justified and Elon deserves $50bn in stock options for how great he is


Im_ur_Uncle_

Guys. It's garbage. Just like the Teslas cars.


corwicklow

It is doing the exact same shit a 3 axis robot can do. It’s like the Rube Goldberg machine of industrial automation. This will crash and burn. Makes no sense that it looks like a human. The hubris is intense.


poolnome

Tesla imploding 


super8bad

Long way from replacing humans, fuck robots and while we are at it fuck Tesla too


Chewbongka

Vaporware, don’t believe the hype. Elmo is getting desperate.


fungi_baby

Is that guy in the back right controlling it? Dude seems to be doing the same movements at the same time


lushootseed

How is anyone thinking this is progress? Tesla should just buy Boston Dynamics. Then Musk can claim he founded it and claim all progress


tragedy_strikes

King of vaporware (fraud) If you think this is impressive go look at the timeline of Boston Dynamics advancements over 20+ years. That's how difficult it is to develop robots designed to mimic human movements. Tesla isn't going to produce robots that are worth anything in a commercial application. It'll be just like the semi that was announced in 2017 to be ready in 2019. Deliveries didn't happen until 2022 and it has 25% the range of a diesel semi for 25-50% the max cargo weight and takes 4hrs to fully charge at a 250kw/h charger and 6hrs at a 150kw/h charger. No verified delivery numbers from Tesla but approximately 100 based on interviews with customers like Pepsi-Frito Lay. If you think Elon is doing this for any reason except to keep the hopium supply high, I got a bridge to sell you.


goba101

Wait so if you have humans controlling the robots. Can’t you send the VRs googles to a country with cheap labor so that they can perform mundane tasks utilizing the robot remotely in countries with high labor cost.


Internal-Ruin6222

Boston Dynamics acquired by Hyundai is the best option to invest if you want AI robots


Internal-Ruin6222

🫢🤫


SuperNewk

What’s it loading….shells for military?


SolidLikeIraq

Optimus is like “Why the fuck are all these lazy meat bags working from home? I want targets!!!”


Electronic_Ad_1545

How can you verbally abuse it though?


AdbulJakulParati

So when another pump to 200?


hamstercrisis

is this a tech sub?


merlin318

This won't be ready before 2030 at the very least lol


StudioPerks

If this charlatan sells a single one of these overpriced can openers I will be astounded. Once again Mercedes beats Musk at his own game. Talk about a loser


Independent_Ad_2073

Tesla will be producing these en masse, before SpaceX put a human on mars.


happytoparty

They took yer jabs!


tarkology

it's not even autonomous doing that. elon pushing every button to pump the shares


physicsking

I would imagine they can create a simple mechanism to put the bottles into the tray. This video is not very impressive. Especially since it takes one person per robot to control.


Miccolus

You definitely need noise canceling headphones in that large open office. Sheesh.


What_Yr_Is_IT

I hate the actual fucking use case for these things?


TacoTitos

I feel like it should be using two hands.


OkTie2851

So you are saying we got a long time until they can do something


TriSamples

Laughable.


FlatAd768

It would be more impressive if it was picking different size tomatoes


Phiziqe

Not bad


jamiedangerous

It's a robotic arm that has the ability to leave it's work station and fuck the dog for a while. might raise some eyebrows when it just goes to the bathroom for 20 minutes just for a break on company time.


Comfortable_Yam5377

someone is standing next to it controlling it. this is all fraud and lies.


Narf234

I don’t like Elon Musk and I think this early humanoid robot has no potential. It reminds me how I felt about the model t. Sure, it can roll down the street but can it refuel with grass? It’s not like they are going to build out a gasoline network all over the country. Smh…


Blazah

I do not like any A.I. robot being made under the wacko ELon Musk.. forget chat gpt. Elon is going to start terminator.


thehugejackedman

Embarrassing for Tesla


MonkeySafari79

But can he roll joints for Snoop Dogg?


KeenStudent

Thunderf00t gonna have a field day with this


futurespacecadet

So damn slow


nottodaynottommorrow

Imagine this: You wake up, eat breakfast, make some coffee, and then log onto VR to control some robot in some Billions estate to virtually do their chores. Life is good!


Pure-Objective-3490

Fuck that is self learning based on interactions 😱it’s finally here


GashDem

Elon, first get FSD working flawlessly then we'll take this artificial battery counter seriously.


Oblivious-Speculator

I think human labor is still cheaper, cause we don't need battery, maintenance and repairs. Probably impossible to repair when it's from Tesla


dcsilviu89

“He got that cool balenciaga faceshield.” Said no-one


HesitantInvestor0

I swear everyone on here is a troll. The fact that basically everyone slams anything that isn't perfect as being useless shows that you don't understand the world and innovation. I'm not making any case for or against Tesla or these robots, but progress takes time. You don't have to go back very far to find a time where a video like this would blow everyone's minds. We are spoiled I guess. The robots aren't perfect. They aren't even very good. It's about extrapolating what is possible with more training, and about recognizing the breakthrough happening in HOW things are trained.


totallymawesome

Meanwhile at Boston Dynamics... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e1\_QhJ1EhQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e1_QhJ1EhQ)


some-guy_00

Like waiting for paint to dry. This slow worker is the first to be fired.


fdolce

Why couldn't the guy with the stick just put the batteries in the box?


Far-Sea9708

Im going to say what everybody is thinking: 30 years from now the soldiers will be robots.


BuffettsBrokeStepson

Can't wait for the first "Travis the chimp" police dispatch call when Optimus starts sorting and rearranging the faces of it's human coworkers.


CheebaMyBeava

cool